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Pokemon Thread XXIV: An Adventure To Mars (Page 1 NSF56K)

DichotomyDichotomy Registered User regular
edited March 2011 in Social Entropy++
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IN STORES NOW
DO NOT TRANSFER YOUR SHINY RAIKOU/SUICUNE/ENTEI TO THE NEW GAMES USING THE REGULAR TRANSFER METHOD

BULBAPEDIA SAYS THAT WILL NOT UNLOCK ZORUA/ZOROARK

you have to talk to some douche in castelia and give the answers "EVERYONE" "HAPPY" "SIMPLE" "CONNECTION"
and then that unlocks the "relocator" on the main menu (like, the Continue/New Game/Mystery Gift menu)
use that to transfer them in
EV Hotspots
attack: route one. Patrat and Lillipup both give one attack EV

sp atk: celestial tower. Litwick and Elgyem both give one sp atk EV

Speed: Surfing in a ton of different places. Route one works, it ONLY has Basculin. Basculin gives 2 speed EVs

Sp Def: Surfing in route 4 (the desert). Only Frillish. Frillish gives one Sp Def EV

def: The best option I can find it Wellspring Cave, which is 50% Roggenrolas. Roggenrola gives 1 Def EV. There might be a better place somewhere?

hp: Driftveil Drawbridge. Only Duckletts. 1 HP EV per ducklett
it's absolutely a step backward in functionality
I still think we can have fun with this video game
that is for fun having

maybe it's not the fun we were expecting
maybe we won't have AS MUCH fun as we thought we would, or for as long
but it's still pokemon, the single player was already worth the price of admission in my opinion
whatever blood we squeeze from this stone is a gain


Will your draconian-type hold over the pokemon thread never cease?!
No. I am the once and future king of the Pokemon Thread. Also the current king. It's an infinite regency.
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The hell goes on in here?
Mostly, we just argue about which pokemon are the best, and Fiz talks about the anime and the rest of us have no idea what's going on, and sometimes dudes post bad fanart on purpose. Gen 5 is literally here right now, and the SE++ Pokemon League is prepared and awaiting Gym Leaders with completed teams.

Incidentally, which pokemon are the best?
All poison types, Escavalier and Samurott. The rest rank somewhere below those ones.
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But wait, I don't know anything about pokemon!
You disgust me. But if you wish to learn, there are three sources:
Bulbapedia, which is pretty much exactly what it sounds like: a pokemon wikipedia. Craploads of information, and fairly user-friendly.
Serebii is another option, and probably a faster one for quick browsing of pokemon, but the guy who runs it seems really kinda weird and I don't think I like him.
Finally, Smogon.. This is a bad place. It is all about competitiveness and no fun, but in the interests of giving everyone access to information, I have included it. Just let it be known that if you make use of the dark secrets and cookie cutter strategies contained within, I will disapprove.
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Why would you disapprove?
Because pokemon is not about winning. It is about FIGHTING SPIRIT, a bond between man and animal that does not in any way resemble some kind of horrific violent slavery. Strong pokemon, weak pokemon- these are the flimsy perceptions of people. True pokemon masters try to win with their favorites.
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Got any other resources?
Got the animated sprites here.
Also, high quality artwork, complete with pokedex number and both english and japanese names. Handy.

WHAT'S THE DEAL WITH THE SE++ POKEMON LEAGUE?

So, with the introduction of B/W, the competitive battling community received a horrible shock: standard wi-fi battling was gone. The reasons for Gamefreak making this decision are likely unknowable and maddening, but we gotta make what do with what we got. And what we got are Flat Battles.
The hell is a flat battle?
It works like this:
- All pokemon are leveled down to level 50. They aren't leveled up, so if you have a dude at level 45 he will stay at level 45 and everyone else will be at level 50 and your pants will fall down and everyone will see your tiny penis. If your dude evolves or learns moves above 50 he keeps everything, he just gets reduced in level.
- Species Clause is in effect. The game physically will not allow two of the same species number.
- Item Clause is in effect. The game physically will not allow two of the same held item.
- Singles battles are bring 6, pick 3. Then you battle with those three. Just the three. The other three don't do fucking anything, they just watch and hop up and down and get mad that they weren't picked.
- There is a built-in banlist. See:
#150 Mewtwo
#151 Mew
#249 Lugia
#250 Ho-Oh
#251 Celebi
#382 Kyogre
#383 Groudon
#384 Rayquaza
#385 Jirachi
#386 Deoxys
#483 Dialga
#484 Palkia
#487 Giratina
#489 Phione
#490 Manaphy
#491 Darkrai
#492 Shaymin
#493 Arceus
#494 Victini
#643 Reshiram
#644 Zekrom
#646 Kyurem
#647 Keldeo
#648 Meloetta
#649 Genesect

So, how do we deal? This is how we deal:

- Until further notice, SE++ Pokemon League battles are to be Best-2-of-3 Flat Battles, with each participant having to use all six of his pokemon between games. Yes, this is not ideal. But it is better than not battling at all.

There is also the option for a Wonder Launcher, which is some kind of weird-ass way to say "You can use items in online battles". It's actually a pretty neat system, earning a point every turn, and those points being able to be spent on items like potions, heals, stat-up items, and at the very end of the scale, revives.

- Use of the Wonder Launcher is not mandatory. If you want to use it, and I recommend doing so, go ahead. If you don't, you don't have to. People who do want to use the Wonder Launcher are overruled if their opponent doesn't.

So, that's it? No more 6v6?
I didn't say that. Or if I did, I was lying. There is a 6v6 option, but it doesn't autolevel any of your pokemon. Why this option is even here I don't know, maybe they thought people just fucking love experiences like taking on the elite four and having all their dudes eight levels above you and getting their asses kicked and they wanna recreate that with their friends. At the moment, this option isn't an option, because I ain't gonna force the league to level all their dudes to 100 manually.

But, there is hope.
What we need are 3-4 people who can hack the game to produce infinite Rare Candies. Bold talk, I know. But bear with me. If you have Black or White, access to the Internet, a hacking device (I don't know what they're called I'm not a hacker) and a bunch of free time, you can help save the SE++ Pokemon League.
One we gather enough people with this power, the process is easy: everyone trains their pokemon as usual. When finished, they trade their team to one of these rare candy wizards. They take their infinite supply of sweets and use them to make all your dudes level 100. Then you get them back and we can battle 6v6 again!
Note, however, that this process is only a hope. Not enough brave hackers have volunteered to make this process feasible. If they do, however, it is an option.
I dunno if I'm comfortable with all this hacking.
Then don't do it! The best-of-3 flat battle style is still the official method of the SE++ Pokemon League. This option is just for people who really miss 6v6 battles, and agree to earn their badges through this method.

There is one more official rule:
- Don't be a dick. This is, bar none, the most important rule. View every action you take through the lens of wondering if you are a dick. Are you a dick? Cut that shit out. This is a big league. We do not need you. If nobody wants to battle with you, nobody will battle with you.
Don't be a dick.

GYM LEADERS

DICHOTOMY
POISON
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SPEED RACER
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MELDING
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SIR FABULOUS
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YUKIRA
FIRE

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Z0RE
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T4CT
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BENDERY IT LIKE BECKHAM
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ISOLDAE
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NIRYA
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ARCH
BUG
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MIZUUMI
PSYCHIC
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CAPTAIN ULTRA
WATER
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TURAMBAR
ELECTRIC
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MUNKUS BEAVER
STEEL
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METALBADGE?


NOT GYM LEADERS AT ALL, BUT STILL WORTHY OF RECOGNITION


GEORGE FORNBY GRILL
FUCK YOU, BATTLE SOMEONE ELSE
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STEW_STICK
CAP'N STU'S SCURVY SHIPMATES
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Yukira
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  • DichotomyDichotomy Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    sorry I'm late with the new thread, I was in the shower

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  • nealcmnealcm Alvarian AlvarianRegistered User regular
    edited March 2011
    god blitzle falls over at a stiff breeze

    too bad i have to keep him because he is so cool

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  • IsoldaeIsoldae Hats Off To JigglypuffRegistered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Blitzle is not awesome and you shouldn't keep him because he is uncool.

    Get an electric spider instead.

    Or something else.

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  • Crimson KingCrimson King Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Blitzle is awful.

    It's pretty cool that he is an electric guy who also gets Flame Charge.

    But he is still awful.

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  • DichotomyDichotomy Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    pretty sure electric zebra ranks pretty highly on the Cool Stuff List

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  • Tommy2HandsTommy2Hands what is this where am i Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    zebstrika is awesome though

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  • DichotomyDichotomy Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    in other news, I was drawing up plans to start breeding my venomoth and gengar today but I made the mistake of purchasing the XBLA port of Torchlight last night

    all of that night disappeared and most of today is gone too

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  • ReynoldsReynolds Gone Fishin'Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Zebra did get a lot better after evolving, yeah. I was this close to getting rid of him. The squirrel is evil, the bug wouldn't be as awesome for the gym I'm at, and the eel is just....weird.

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  • LexxyLexxy Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Hello newthread. I am out of the cave now and got badge #7!

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  • DichotomyDichotomy Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    y'know looking at galvantula unnerve is a pretty good ability

    I don't know if it's 100 acc thunders good, but it could certainly frustrate a lot of pokemon

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  • NiryaNirya Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Ok I am starting to enjoy the post-game now that my pokemon are in the 50s.

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  • LexxyLexxy Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Ok guys:

    I have a Petilil. Do I want to keep it a Petilil till 46 and learn Leaf Storm, or turn it into a Liligant before that and have it learn Petal Dance. I'm tempted to go the way of the latter because it has 10 uses over 5, and 100% accuracy. Also I don't like recoil. However, the latter takes 2-3 turns and then I end up confused.

    Please advise.

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  • drp527drp527 We sacrifice our own That more may rise in their placeRegistered User regular
    edited March 2011
    I suppose it comes down to if you think the 20 extra power in Leaf Storm is worth the Sp. Attack drop, since confusion, while annoying, isn't as directly dangerous to you with Lilligant's low-ish Attack stat, and worst case scenario, it's easier to cure confusion (especially in the single player) than to restore a stat reduction

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  • LexxyLexxy Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Petal Dance it is!

    The 20 difference in power wasn't enough of a selling point. Time to evolve my adorable flowerbabby.

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  • nealcmnealcm Alvarian AlvarianRegistered User regular
    edited March 2011
    like i can't give up blitzle now that i've named him THORSE

    it is too perfect

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  • Shock GShock G Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    I'd go for quiver dance

    after petlil got giga drain

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  • NiryaNirya Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Lexxy wrote: »
    Ok guys:

    I have a Petilil. Do I want to keep it a Petilil till 46 and learn Leaf Storm, or turn it into a Liligant before that and have it learn Petal Dance. I'm tempted to go the way of the latter because it has 10 uses over 5, and 100% accuracy. Also I don't like recoil. However, the latter takes 2-3 turns and then I end up confused.

    Please advise.

    Petal Dance, then go to the Move Relearner and put Quiver Dance on it.

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  • LexxyLexxy Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    good plan

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  • Shock GShock G Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    why waste a heart scale?

    evolve it at 26 and get both

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  • KayKay What we need... Is a little bit of PANIC.Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Good Morning Pokémon Thread.

    Kay on
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  • Shock GShock G Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    it's two, numbnuts

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  • LexxyLexxy Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Just realized she IS level 26, so it looks like I'll be learning it the natural way~

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  • NiryaNirya Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Shock G wrote: »
    why waste a heart scale?

    evolve it at 26 and get both

    Yes Heart Scales are incredibly hard to come by in this game.....

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  • Shock GShock G Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    I need to figure out what to do with this cactus

    giga drain, cotton guard, ingrain, leech seed?

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  • KayKay What we need... Is a little bit of PANIC.Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Shock G wrote: »
    it's two, numbnuts

    Bui bui!

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  • Tommy2HandsTommy2Hands what is this where am i Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    giga drain coverage move leech seed ingrain

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  • Shock GShock G Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    problem is that they gave this guy a nice physical moveset but his attack stat is lacking

    hmm

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  • Shock GShock G Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    like he literally doesn't have a special move that isn't grass type

    and cotton guard is so good

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  • King RiptorKing Riptor Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    The only bad part of this game is the massive level disparity betweenthe elite 4 and the entire eastern section of unova.

    Otherwise perfect game.


    On that note I have I all the legendaries unless there's one in challenge cave. None will oppose me

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  • LexxyLexxy Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    dag yo

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  • KusuguttaiKusuguttai __BANNED USERS regular
    edited March 2011
    Nirya wrote: »
    Shock G wrote: »
    why waste a heart scale?

    evolve it at 26 and get both

    Yes Heart Scales are incredibly hard to come by in this game.....

    i c wut u did ther

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  • NiryaNirya Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    I'm clever, guys.

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  • KayKay What we need... Is a little bit of PANIC.Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Cotton Guard is pretty sick, yo.

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  • Kuribo's ShoeKuribo's Shoe Kuribo's Stocking North PoleRegistered User regular
    edited March 2011
    welcome to my team, vroom the venipede

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  • Kuribo's ShoeKuribo's Shoe Kuribo's Stocking North PoleRegistered User regular
    edited March 2011
    I love infinite use tms

    I put Grass Knot on Sawk because I CAN

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  • LexxyLexxy Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Wait so...

    After Dragonspiral Tower, do I have to go to Relic Castle?? Or can I move on and do that later.

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  • NiryaNirya Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Pretty sure you have to go. You won't be able to challenge the next gym unless you do.

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  • LexxyLexxy Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    DAMMIT

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  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    edited March 2011
    Did they fix multiplayer yet?

    Or am I safe with my Tactics Ogre addiction.

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  • MaytagMaytag Registered User regular
    edited March 2011
    Choice specs get!

    Yanmega is now tearing up the battle subway.

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