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So the last 2 weeks have made me acutely aware that I am depressed. This isn't a new thing. But it is getting worse. Since there's a whole drugs episode of PATV, you guys seem like the right crowd to ask;
How hard is it to get antidepressants in the UK?
I don't have a GP to speak of; I did a quick googling, the places near me seem very...rough. My current GP is someone I've never met (family signed up when I was still living with them 8 years ago, I've not gone to the doctor's since then...) and I no longer live anywhere near them.
So how does it go? From walking in, saying "Yo, I need some of them happy pills" and getting them, how long is this process? Because... I am also nervous that'll chicken out - I am a student nurse, and am very worried about being on anti depressants showing up in my history. Might look bad for a nurse, I dunno.
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you really really shouldn't have the mindset of
I'm depressed -> I get a prescription -> I take drugs -> everything's cool again
If you're anxious about drugs in your job history (I don't believe there is any need to be in the medical field by the way) then maybe you could try a few things before medication
You say there are a couple of general medical practices around your area. Call them. Tell them you don't have a regular GP and you're thinking about getting a referal to a psychologist or therapist.
Find out what they offer in that respect. They might have a visiting psychologist on staff.
Don't just think you need drugs to make you better, that almost never works. Talking to a good therapist you have a rapport with almost always works. You might find a change in diet or more exercise makes you feel better.
Stop thinking about it, get on the phone and call those practices. It's a hard thing to do at first, but it's amazing how much it can help.
My wife is always talking about how high the turnover rate is in mental health because people just hit a limit and then snap.
I've been doing a lot of research on turnover rates in mental health.
And there seems to be a feeling of pessimism permeating the industry, supported by the pharmacological interests in maintenance.
"Advanced incompetence is indistinguishable from malice."
"Humor can be dissected, as a frog can, but it dies in the process." Imagine all of my posts being spoken by Alec Baldwin
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Dang I thought this was gonna be about fun drugs. Good luck with dealing with your depression though. I've definitely been there and often wondered the same things about medication.
So the last 2 weeks have made me acutely aware that I am depressed. This isn't a new thing. But it is getting worse. Since there's a whole drugs episode of PATV, you guys seem like the right crowd to ask;
How hard is it to get antidepressants in the UK?
I don't have a GP to speak of; I did a quick googling, the places near me seem very...rough. My current GP is someone I've never met (family signed up when I was still living with them 8 years ago, I've not gone to the doctor's since then...) and I no longer live anywhere near them.
So how does it go? From walking in, saying "Yo, I need some of them happy pills" and getting them, how long is this process? Because... I am also nervous that'll chicken out - I am a student nurse, and am very worried about being on anti depressants showing up in my history. Might look bad for a nurse, I dunno.
I think you're the UK version of me.
I have been thinking about this too, but with no health insurance, it will have to wait.
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This probably isn't the best therapeutic environment to talk about such things, feel free to PM me and let me know what's going on.
you'd be surprised.
lotta folk around here have first hand experience with brain problems and various forms of therapy. This place almost single-handedly guided me into getting some help when I wasn't even considering it.
I'm depressed -> I get a prescription -> I take drugs -> everything's cool again
If you're anxious about drugs in your job history (I don't believe there is any need to be in the medical field by the way) then maybe you could try a few things before medication
You say there are a couple of general medical practices around your area. Call them. Tell them you don't have a regular GP and you're thinking about getting a referal to a psychologist or therapist.
Find out what they offer in that respect. They might have a visiting psychologist on staff.
Don't just think you need drugs to make you better, that almost never works. Talking to a good therapist you have a rapport with almost always works. You might find a change in diet or more exercise makes you feel better.
Stop thinking about it, get on the phone and call those practices. It's a hard thing to do at first, but it's amazing how much it can help.
this this this THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS
the whole "I have a mental illness, which drug is for me" mindset is a huge, huge problem
and I can absolutely guarantee that if you go into treatment with a better understanding of how this sort of thing works* you are going to have far better results than if you just lie back and expect other people to fix you with mysterious chemicals
*by which I mean that mental illness exists on a greyscale and is not a binary thing, and so is not a "please deposit pill to feel better" sort of deal
So the last 2 weeks have made me acutely aware that I am depressed. This isn't a new thing. But it is getting worse. Since there's a whole drugs episode of PATV, you guys seem like the right crowd to ask;
How hard is it to get antidepressants in the UK?
I don't have a GP to speak of; I did a quick googling, the places near me seem very...rough. My current GP is someone I've never met (family signed up when I was still living with them 8 years ago, I've not gone to the doctor's since then...) and I no longer live anywhere near them.
So how does it go? From walking in, saying "Yo, I need some of them happy pills" and getting them, how long is this process? Because... I am also nervous that'll chicken out - I am a student nurse, and am very worried about being on anti depressants showing up in my history. Might look bad for a nurse, I dunno.
I think you're the UK version of me.
I have been thinking about this too, but with no health insurance, it will have to wait.
Do you exercise regularly?
Is there some aspect of your life that is pulling you down?
Is there an unresolved chronic medical issue affecting you?
Do you deal with chronic pain?
"Advanced incompetence is indistinguishable from malice."
"Humor can be dissected, as a frog can, but it dies in the process." Imagine all of my posts being spoken by Alec Baldwin
GamerTag: MunkusBeaver ||||| Steam: munkus
I'm depressed -> I get a prescription -> I take drugs -> everything's cool again
If you're anxious about drugs in your job history (I don't believe there is any need to be in the medical field by the way) then maybe you could try a few things before medication
You say there are a couple of general medical practices around your area. Call them. Tell them you don't have a regular GP and you're thinking about getting a referal to a psychologist or therapist.
Find out what they offer in that respect. They might have a visiting psychologist on staff.
Don't just think you need drugs to make you better, that almost never works. Talking to a good therapist you have a rapport with almost always works. You might find a change in diet or more exercise makes you feel better.
Stop thinking about it, get on the phone and call those practices. It's a hard thing to do at first, but it's amazing how much it can help.
this this this THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS
the whole "I have a mental illness, which drug is for me" mindset is a huge, huge problem
and I can absolutely guarantee that if you go into treatment with a better understanding of how this sort of thing works* you are going to have far better results than if you just lie back and expect other people to fix you with mysterious chemicals
*by which I mean that mental illness exists on a greyscale and is not a binary thing, and so is not a "please deposit pill to feel better" sort of deal
Well, that is the mindset that is being sent in modern advertisements. And that is generally how most physicians treat any kind of illness or problem. You have problem X, take medicine Y until you get better.
"Advanced incompetence is indistinguishable from malice."
"Humor can be dissected, as a frog can, but it dies in the process." Imagine all of my posts being spoken by Alec Baldwin
GamerTag: MunkusBeaver ||||| Steam: munkus
in my experience, antidepressants got me out of a slump i absolutely couldn't get out of myself
i never intended to take them forever, or even a year, but i was too deep in a hole for some exercise and positive thinking to help
once i realized where i should be without them, i could get there without them
this is from the person that's currently 29, unemployed, recently re-re-re-re-separated, parent of an infant and living with his mother. previous-me would've needed medication to get out of bed
I'm depressed -> I get a prescription -> I take drugs -> everything's cool again
If you're anxious about drugs in your job history (I don't believe there is any need to be in the medical field by the way) then maybe you could try a few things before medication
You say there are a couple of general medical practices around your area. Call them. Tell them you don't have a regular GP and you're thinking about getting a referal to a psychologist or therapist.
Find out what they offer in that respect. They might have a visiting psychologist on staff.
Don't just think you need drugs to make you better, that almost never works. Talking to a good therapist you have a rapport with almost always works. You might find a change in diet or more exercise makes you feel better.
Stop thinking about it, get on the phone and call those practices. It's a hard thing to do at first, but it's amazing how much it can help.
this this this THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS
the whole "I have a mental illness, which drug is for me" mindset is a huge, huge problem
and I can absolutely guarantee that if you go into treatment with a better understanding of how this sort of thing works* you are going to have far better results than if you just lie back and expect other people to fix you with mysterious chemicals
*by which I mean that mental illness exists on a greyscale and is not a binary thing, and so is not a "please deposit pill to feel better" sort of deal
Well, that is the mindset that is being sent in modern advertisements. And that is generally how most physicians treat any kind of illness or problem. You have problem X, take medicine Y until you get better.
well this is certainly true
and it isn't some conspiracy that's being perpetrated on the public, even intra-industry the notion that "THESE symptoms are treated with THIS cocktail" enjoys some popularity (not universally, of course)
but it's important to disillusion people of that when one can
try exercise, try meditation, try mindfulness techniques, try practicing self-efficacy and an external locus of control
although MDD and dysthymia and regular sadness are different things, there is not some magic switch that gets flipped between one and the other. It is not like you either suffer every single one of the DSM-IV's criteria or you suffer none of them. If you have been having issues that seem related to an affective disorder, take steps to get yourself well, but the first step is absolutely not "to whom may I give my problems"
Drugs can work. While your medical history isn't going to be available to employers, you do have to take drug tests a lot of places and some ban the use of psychoactive drugs. Which is kind of nonsense but it's the way it is, nonetheless.
The thing is, cognitive therapy and generally taking steps to improve your life work too.
I don't know what your specific scenario is, but the first step I'd likely take in your shoes is what others have already suggested. Assess areas that may be dragging you down (lack of exercise, lack of close relationships, unhealthy relationships, a hyper-stressful job, etc) and take immediate steps to fix those things.
If, after some time, this hasn't worked, then go to a psychiatrist for cognitive therapy. This should do the trick for most people. You may be proscribed medication if nothing else works. It can be helpful, but it should be your last resort.
Personally, I keep putting off actually doing anything about my (probably) depressions, I talked to my doctor about it one time when I was seeing him on an unrelated issue, he gave me some pamphlets and said I should read them and make another appointment if things didn't change for me, he even openly told me that medication would be the worst thing for me because I seemed like I would be "too aware" that I was only feeling better and wasn't actually better.
Then my brain decided that irrationally fearing forced confinement / medication was the best plan it had ever heard, and proceeded accordingly, and I never actually went back to talk to the guy more despite being entirely aware (on an intellectual level) that my fears were 99% BS.
What I'm saying is, talk to a GP, they are nice peoples and will try to help you, but be prepared to battle your own brain. Possibly pokemon battle.
Yeah, that's true. I wasn't thinking so much of cost but more along the lines of, "he's just gonna tell you get the bullshit out of your life first; may as well do that on your own."
Also my mild social anxiety leads me to try to solve problems without help from others until I've exhausted my options. I suppose I projected that.
Errybody got some kinda brain problems. Some people just have much, much worse ones.
I asked my psychiatrist for a prescription of Klonopin about a month ago
Gave my mom the bottle, only ask for it when I'm feeling a panicky day about to happen
My life is immeasurably improved. I had never been to a school dance, before. I get terrified of embarrassing myself, I assume I'm always the center of attention, because I kind of make myself the center of attention, and I'll fuck it up and that one fuck up will make everyone hate me forever and I will be alone and lonely and
I just took a friend of mine to Junior Prom on friday, and I'm psyched to go to prom in May. I just kind of figured that kind of thing would never be "for" me. Shit rocks.
My life is immeasurably improved. I had never been to a school dance, before. I get terrified of embarrassing myself, I assume I'm always the center of attention, because I kind of make myself the center of attention, and I'll fuck it up and that one fuck up will make everyone hate me forever and I will be alone and lonely and
I just took a friend of mine to Junior Prom on friday, and I'm psyched to go to prom in May. I just kind of figured that kind of thing would never be "for" me. Shit rocks.
dang that is me (except the getting better about it part)
One time, I had a friend over to play a bit of Red Alert on my LAN. During the game he said he needed to go to the bathroom, so we paused it. After about 10 minutes of wondering where the hell he went, I get up and go to check on him.
Once I was taking a poop at a restaurant and a kid crept underneath the door into my stall. I let out a big fart and then he threw up all over the floor in front of me and I just stared at him.
My life is immeasurably improved. I had never been to a school dance, before. I get terrified of embarrassing myself, I assume I'm always the center of attention, because I kind of make myself the center of attention, and I'll fuck it up and that one fuck up will make everyone hate me forever and I will be alone and lonely and
I just took a friend of mine to Junior Prom on friday, and I'm psyched to go to prom in May. I just kind of figured that kind of thing would never be "for" me. Shit rocks.
dang that is me (except the getting better about it part)
One time, I had a friend over to play a bit of Red Alert on my LAN. During the game he said he needed to go to the bathroom, so we paused it. After about 10 minutes of wondering where the hell he went, I get up and go to check on him.
Once I was taking a poop at a restaurant and a kid crept underneath the door into my stall. I let out a big fart and then he threw up all over the floor in front of me and I just stared at him.
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Get a therapist, talk to your therapist, see what's what.
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It is ridiculously common
I'm depressed -> I get a prescription -> I take drugs -> everything's cool again
If you're anxious about drugs in your job history (I don't believe there is any need to be in the medical field by the way) then maybe you could try a few things before medication
You say there are a couple of general medical practices around your area. Call them. Tell them you don't have a regular GP and you're thinking about getting a referal to a psychologist or therapist.
Find out what they offer in that respect. They might have a visiting psychologist on staff.
Don't just think you need drugs to make you better, that almost never works. Talking to a good therapist you have a rapport with almost always works. You might find a change in diet or more exercise makes you feel better.
Stop thinking about it, get on the phone and call those practices. It's a hard thing to do at first, but it's amazing how much it can help.
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I've been doing a lot of research on turnover rates in mental health.
And there seems to be a feeling of pessimism permeating the industry, supported by the pharmacological interests in maintenance.
"Humor can be dissected, as a frog can, but it dies in the process."
Imagine all of my posts being spoken by Alec Baldwin
GamerTag: MunkusBeaver ||||| Steam: munkus
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Antidepressants won't do anything and your hospital records are sealed, anyway. It won't hurt your chances of getting a license.
This probably isn't the best therapeutic environment to talk about such things, feel free to PM me and let me know what's going on.
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I think you're the UK version of me.
I have been thinking about this too, but with no health insurance, it will have to wait.
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you'd be surprised.
lotta folk around here have first hand experience with brain problems and various forms of therapy. This place almost single-handedly guided me into getting some help when I wasn't even considering it.
this this this THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS
the whole "I have a mental illness, which drug is for me" mindset is a huge, huge problem
and I can absolutely guarantee that if you go into treatment with a better understanding of how this sort of thing works* you are going to have far better results than if you just lie back and expect other people to fix you with mysterious chemicals
*by which I mean that mental illness exists on a greyscale and is not a binary thing, and so is not a "please deposit pill to feel better" sort of deal
That's actually my chaser
Do you exercise regularly?
Is there some aspect of your life that is pulling you down?
Is there an unresolved chronic medical issue affecting you?
Do you deal with chronic pain?
"Humor can be dissected, as a frog can, but it dies in the process."
Imagine all of my posts being spoken by Alec Baldwin
GamerTag: MunkusBeaver ||||| Steam: munkus
Well, that is the mindset that is being sent in modern advertisements. And that is generally how most physicians treat any kind of illness or problem. You have problem X, take medicine Y until you get better.
"Humor can be dissected, as a frog can, but it dies in the process."
Imagine all of my posts being spoken by Alec Baldwin
GamerTag: MunkusBeaver ||||| Steam: munkus
i never intended to take them forever, or even a year, but i was too deep in a hole for some exercise and positive thinking to help
once i realized where i should be without them, i could get there without them
this is from the person that's currently 29, unemployed, recently re-re-re-re-separated, parent of an infant and living with his mother. previous-me would've needed medication to get out of bed
but, i have perspective now, i guess? i dunno.
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well this is certainly true
and it isn't some conspiracy that's being perpetrated on the public, even intra-industry the notion that "THESE symptoms are treated with THIS cocktail" enjoys some popularity (not universally, of course)
but it's important to disillusion people of that when one can
try exercise, try meditation, try mindfulness techniques, try practicing self-efficacy and an external locus of control
although MDD and dysthymia and regular sadness are different things, there is not some magic switch that gets flipped between one and the other. It is not like you either suffer every single one of the DSM-IV's criteria or you suffer none of them. If you have been having issues that seem related to an affective disorder, take steps to get yourself well, but the first step is absolutely not "to whom may I give my problems"
The thing is, cognitive therapy and generally taking steps to improve your life work too.
I don't know what your specific scenario is, but the first step I'd likely take in your shoes is what others have already suggested. Assess areas that may be dragging you down (lack of exercise, lack of close relationships, unhealthy relationships, a hyper-stressful job, etc) and take immediate steps to fix those things.
If, after some time, this hasn't worked, then go to a psychiatrist for cognitive therapy. This should do the trick for most people. You may be proscribed medication if nothing else works. It can be helpful, but it should be your last resort.
If you are at all suicidal, go get help now.
go to one. talk it out. it'll make you feel better.
Then my brain decided that irrationally fearing forced confinement / medication was the best plan it had ever heard, and proceeded accordingly, and I never actually went back to talk to the guy more despite being entirely aware (on an intellectual level) that my fears were 99% BS.
What I'm saying is, talk to a GP, they are nice peoples and will try to help you, but be prepared to battle your own brain. Possibly pokemon battle.
Also my mild social anxiety leads me to try to solve problems without help from others until I've exhausted my options. I suppose I projected that.
Errybody got some kinda brain problems. Some people just have much, much worse ones.
I asked my psychiatrist for a prescription of Klonopin about a month ago
Gave my mom the bottle, only ask for it when I'm feeling a panicky day about to happen
My life is immeasurably improved. I had never been to a school dance, before. I get terrified of embarrassing myself, I assume I'm always the center of attention, because I kind of make myself the center of attention, and I'll fuck it up and that one fuck up will make everyone hate me forever and I will be alone and lonely and
I just took a friend of mine to Junior Prom on friday, and I'm psyched to go to prom in May. I just kind of figured that kind of thing would never be "for" me. Shit rocks.
I've been much weepier now than I've ever been
I dunno how much I need SSRIs though, I'm a pretty happy guy till I start getting scared. And then I miss opportunities, and then I get sad
dang that is me (except the getting better about it part)
but no drugs for meeee
well acid and shrooms helped, but I don't exactly recommend those as a course of treatment
lexapro has been working now for over 2 years
the first month was rough though
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but in the moment where it is happening these logical thoughts are drowned out and I start acting stupid
it's worth mentioning that that feeling is something that everyone feels to some degree
learning to exercise control over those sorts of thoughts is, in general, a big part of growing up