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[Let's Read] Rifts: A Wide Wide World of Weirdness

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  • OptimusZedOptimusZed Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    I'm trying to think what character would be so ruinous to the idea of a conversion that you haven't written up yet. Been so long since I looked at any of the books.
    It's not so much the class itself as it is all the stuff that goes with it.

    And it doesn't make conversion impossible, just obscenely time consuming and/or very difficult to shoehorn into certain systems.

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  • OptimusZedOptimusZed Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    Techno-Wizard: With Prices This Low, I Must Be Crazy!

    Just about every roleplaying game has one. The weirdo inventor guy who seems to have supernatural powers when it comes to designing, building and maintaining whacked out gizmos that appear to violate the laws of nature. In Rifts, that guy is the Techno-Wizard, those powers are real, and the laws of nature can suck it.

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    I'm too sexy for my jacket.

    Half mad scientist, half genius engineer, half Gandalf, these people are among the most eccentric spellcasters in the game. Also; the most sought after. Depending on your party makeup, having a Techno-Wizard might be like having an Operator in the party who can also hurl fireballs when necessary.

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    Please. That fool Gandalf wishes he had a staff this bad ass.

    As the name would imply, Techno-Wizards aren't light on the technical skills. They can usually build or repair just about anything, most of the time at just below the proficiency rates you'd see in an Operator. They won't have the lore knowledge of machines and pre-Rifts Earth that you get with an Operator, though, nor do they get the breadth of the Operator's skill base. The mechanical and electrical skills of the average Techno-Wizard are very focused. In general, they can build you big, loud things that go fast, fly, or explode.

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    Being this awesome? Priceless (6 Orphans)

    Where they make up for this seeming deficiency in their mechanical abilities (though, really, what's worth building if it doesn't go fast, fly or explode?) is in their fusion of magic and technology. Sure, the Operator can repair that torched servo on your SAMAS, but can he make it turn invisible?

    Or shoot magical flames from its eyes? Or convert it to a clean, renewable power source? No, if you want an invisible, fire-shooting power armor that runs on orphan souls, you're gonna need a Techno-Wizard.

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    Powered by 100% clean burning orphans.

    In fact, via the addition of mystical symbols and a seemingly random collection of gems, your friendly neighborhood Techno-Wizard can convert virtually anything to run on magical energy. Even things that didn't need energy in the first place, like knives or kites.

    Referred to as "Techno-Wizardry Items", the variety of things that can be created or converted in this fashion is limited only by the imagination of the people at the table, the amount of P.P.E. the Techno-Wizard can scrape together and the good sense of the GM. Stock items include TW Boards (or "tree trimmers) that are basically surf boards that fly along Ley Lines, sword hilts that flare up a blade of fire at a thought, guns that shoot fireballs or lightning, armor that can make you invulnerable to energy weapons and daylight grenades.

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    Demon-powered chainsaws; 46% more metal than regular chainsaws.

    Basically, anything technology can do, techno-wizardry can do better, if less reliably. There's only one catch; you have to be a spellcaster or a psychic to use it. Unless you can channel either P.P.E. or I.S.P., you can't even get one of these wondergadgets to turn on, much less turn you invisible while bathing your enemies in supernatural fire.

    To use a techno-wizardry item, it is necessary to power the item with magical energy. Effectively, you spend some of your own energy and instead of getting one of your own personal spells or abilities you use the spell that's stored in the item. The cost associated with the use of a spell in this fashion is typically pretty close to the cost to cast it yourself, meaning that true wizards won't usually waste their time on a suit of armor that has a Chameleon spell built into it, but for the odd Headhunter or Juicer that is a Major Psionic, it can be a very useful thing to have.

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    Have you considered upgrading to something in a Godfist?

    Some items work without personal energy expenditure, but they still won't work for people with no magical or psychic ability. Examples include the Tree Trimmers that can be ridden above ley lines, or virtually any other means of transport that requires ley lines to function. They'll take their power directly from the line, requiring no personal input from those inside. These kinds of transports are incredibly popular among adventurers, for reasons that should be obvious.

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    Wheeeeeeeeeee!

    All this upside comes with one fairly major downside; the Techno-Wizard isn't much of a spellcaster. Spells they actually cast, as oppose to build into an over-elaborate machine and activate via blood sacrifice, are only about half as effective as those cast by any other of the mage characters. As downsides go, it's kind of a harsh one. But when you weigh it against the ability to build guns that shoot mega damage ice and giant magical robots, it could be worse.

    For this installment of our spell rundown, we're going to go with three that are near and dear to the heart of Techno-Wizards.

    1. Energy Bolt


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    The incantation creates an energy bolt that the mage can mentally
    direct by simply looking at his intended target. The bolt may appear
    to fire from a hand or finger or the eyes, but needs no physical gesture,
    such as pointing. S.D.C. damage is normally four six-sided dice (4D6),
    but is increased to 6D6 under the influence of a ley line and 8D6 at a
    ley line nexus; P.P.E. cost is still only five despite the increased damage
    capability. One energy bolt can be fired at one target per each spell
    invocation.

    This is probably the least inspiring spell in the book. Sure, it only costs 5 P.P.E. (.1 Orphans), but it's just pure damage and not even much of that. Even at its biggest incarnation, you're not doing mega damage with this spell. So why include it?

    Because Techno-Wizards use this in everything. This is the catch-all spell component for any techno-wizard item that would normally require a battery or other power source if it wasn't converted to run on orphans. Everything from a magic-powered laser pistol to a TW Landrover will require this spell. Anything bigger will take its larger cousin, Energy Field. But between those two spells, we're looking at something like 95% of constructable items. Techno-Wizards are going to be using this a LOT.

    2. Chameleon

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    This spell enables the affected person to seemingly alter the color
    and pattern of his clothes and physical body, enabling him to blend
    into the surrounding environment. Movement destroys the effectiveness
    of this magic.

    The spell description then goes on to provide percentages of concealment based on movement speed. It's basically completely effective still, but movement makes it drop off pretty quickly. Still, it's 4 and a half minutes of pseudo-invisibility per level for 6 P.P.E. (.2 Orphans). Not a bad deal.

    I included this spell because your average, over-active Techno-Wizard is going to add it to absolutely everything. Armors, motorcycles, aircraft, power armor, anything and everything they can get their hands on. It is unclear what the genesis of this particular obsession is, but I have literally seen games where characters in camouflaged armor rode camouflaged skycycles that launched from a camouflaged air transport. Apparently Techno-Wizards really wish they were ninjas.

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    Sometimes they are ninjas.

    3. Fly

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    The arcanist can magically bestow the power of flight only to an
    inanimate object not made of metal or plastic. He or she can then use
    that object to fly.

    This is the magic carpet/ flying broom spell. For 15 P.P.E. (.5 Orphans), you get 6 minutes/level of mechanically assisted flight. It kind of allows non-Techno-Wizards to act like one for a little while; any Mystic or Ley Line Walker with this spell can make a motorcycle fly, after all.

    But in the hands of a Techno-Wizard, it allows all sorts of craziness. Got an old vintage airplane that you can't find parts for? Just slap some rose quartz in that puppy and wire up a Fly-based engine. Disappointed that the "off road" portion of your ATV description doesn't include air travel? We can fix that, it'll just take some aquamarine and a trip to the local orphanage.

    This is also the primary spell for things like Tree Trimmers and Ley Line Trains as well. A Techno-Wizard without Fly is really missing out on some very useful things. In fact, there's a variant on the class that got published in Rifter that focuses specifically on uses of Fly and the machines it goes into.

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  • Xenogear_0001Xenogear_0001 Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    Techno-Wizards never got much love in my campaigns--no one ever wanted to play one, sadly. I would have, were I not GM'ing all the damn time. Also, I'm pretty sure the Federation of Magic book went and expanded this section of wizardry substantially. I need to go back and thumb through this stuff, I'm getting all nostalgic.

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  • chiasaur11chiasaur11 Never doubt a raccoon. Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    They do have a weird neither fish nor fowl thing going.

    Not pure tech, so that's one kind of cool point cut into, but not that good at solo magicing.

    I mean, I see the awesome side, but I can see the problems.

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  • OrcaOrca Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    I always saw them as the character that's basically there for item creation and sucks otherwise.

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  • Xenogear_0001Xenogear_0001 Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    Didn't they introduce TW-made items that non-magic users could wield later on? I could swear I remember something like that--like they just needed to be reloaded with magic, but anyone could pull the trigger. Personally, I always felt that would have been much cooler if they'd been like that to begin with. It would have broadened their appeal a bit.

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  • OptimusZedOptimusZed Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    They did introduce weapons that had "P.P.E. Clips" and a couple of guns that could be fired by anyone and reloaded at pyramids.

    But really, besides the odd full conversion cyborg, it was rare to find a character without at least some psychic ability.

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  • EntaruEntaru Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    I always looked at it as a great way to get access to a handful of magic spells without taking up magic. Win-Win.

    I know my Psychic Disco Ball character had a few TM devices laying around for use when things got rough.

    Mostly just huntin' monsters.
  • Eat it You Nasty Pig.Eat it You Nasty Pig. tell homeland security 'we are the bomb'Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    Techno-Wizard was one of those classes that always kinda felt like you needed an accomodating GM to really play properly. I can't remember if we ever had a significant one in one of our games, but I always felt like relying on players to invent a large portion of what their character does was kind of a dodgy proposition.

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  • OptimusZedOptimusZed Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    There's a very long list of buildable stuff at this point, with the obvious caveat that just because it's written down in Rifts doesn't make it a good idea to let players have.

    Really, the best part about Techno-Wizards is the fact that each of their enhancements for something has to have a physical component. So if that Juicer wants you to add Breathe Without Air to his otherwise non-Environmental armor, you can add a hello-kitty breath mask connected with a bright pink hose to a hip mounted mickey mouse squeeze ball.

    One of my favorites was giving the Psi-stalker the ability to cast Fire Bolt from his armor, with the component being a rainbow diagram on his chest plate.
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  • 21stCentury21stCentury Abolish the wage system! Takin' Care of BusinessRegistered User regular
    edited April 2011
    I don't know if this has been answered, but what does "eyeballin' a fellow" do? Does it give you supernatural hobo insight on the content of one's character or does it creep people out massively?

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  • OptimusZedOptimusZed Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    Eyeball a Fella is basically a non-magical, non-psionic aura reading. You can get really basic information about an enemy by staring creepily at them.

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  • OptimusZedOptimusZed Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    Dragons: For When Humanity Isn't Awesome Enough

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    Ah, yes. Tribute from the squishy lesser beings.

    In a game that is, intentionally or otherwise, primarily about the human race and the lengths we'll go to in order to survive in a post-apocalyptic wasteland populated by predators from our darkest collective nightmares, this section of the main rule book is probably the strangest non-sequitor imaginable. Suddenly, instead of a member of plucky, squishy humanity, players are presented with the option of playing one of those predators. And a rather tempting option it is.

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    It's good to be apex predator.

    This book has four options for would-be dragons; Great Horned, Fire, Ice and Thunder Lizard. There are minor variances in base attributes, M.D.C., strength of breath weapon, etc, but there are some basic things that they all get.

    1. Mega Damage Being: Every dragon can withstand M.D. attacks and deal them out with breath weapons and hand to hand attacks.

    2. Metamorphosis: They can change their shape to any living animal, including humans.

    3. Teleport: At will, up to 5 miles.

    4. Psionics: Major or Minor psionic, access to a decent range of powers.

    5. Spellcasting: Starting at level 3, gains 2 spells a level and intuitively understands all magical items.

    The downside? You are literally days old and your skills reflect it. PC dragons are hatchlings, in a somewhat refreshing nod to the fact that older dragons would be ridiculously overpowered as opposed to just really, really overpowered like the babies.

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    "Whelp, I'm 6 hours old now. Better get to that adventuring."

    Dragons straight out of the egg get very few skills from an extremely limited list. It's worth noting that they start literate in two languages (at 98% no less) but there's no mention of them being able to speak or understand any human language. They can also add, subtract and divide at 98% proficiency, and have access to power armor skills. Because if there's one thing that makes sense for a freshly hatched dragon, it's the ability to pilot a Glitter Boy.

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    Feel my wrath!

    Limited though they are, the skills available to a freshly hatched, mega damage, at will metamorphising dragon are only slightly less in number (11 total if you assume that they can speak any language they can read vs 17) and from a wider range of options than are available to the Vagabond class. Congratulations, squishy human. You can cook and play the guitar, but this guy can immolate you with his breath and steal your identity, and possibly defuse explosives to boot. Remember this the next time somebody tries to blame mechanical imbalance in Rifts on splat books.

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    Though seriously, Wujick. WTF?

    And if the types of dragon available here don't catch your fancy, you're in luck. New options are added all the time. There are Japanese dragons, Chinese dragons, English dragons that look suspiciously like chinese dragons, etc. The Ulitimate printing of the main book adds 4 completely new dragons as well, and even more can be found in the various conversion books and other add ons. There are a bewildering number of options for anyone who wants to play a dragon.

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    Including the rarely seen Badass Cyber Monocled Dragon.

    This is a fairly short entry because, well, this is a really short section of the book. 2 pages of text for what are effectively 4 playable classes, and some of the most powerful straight out of the box characters in the game.

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    "But aren't I adorable?"

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  • DevoutlyApatheticDevoutlyApathetic I've Done Worse Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    Hmm, Hobo or Dragon?

    While being a scaled engine of death is pretty cool I do like cooking beans over a campfire.....

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  • OptimusZedOptimusZed Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    It's not an either/or, man.

    You can cook beans AND be a scaled engine of death or....

    you can just cook beans.

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  • GaddezGaddez Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    Putting aside the obvious edges of the dragon class, there were some interesting nods to them in the early source books for rifts including them being able to kill vampires (srsly, fuck vampires) and splugorth minions tended to piss themselves when they saw them; makes for good times when your player group can send a slaver team running just with an angry look.

    The other nice thing about dragons was that in the ultimate edition the dragons got their own hand to hand style and weren't stuck with basic.

    All in all, dragons made for an interesting, thematic class.

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  • OptimusZedOptimusZed Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    The addition of Dragon hand to hand really helped them jump from generic supernatural creature to feeling like an actual dragon. Before they got that it kind of felt like they were just M.D. sluggers that could polymorph themselves. But things like a tail slap and constriction attacks really made them feel dragon-y.

    Dragon hatchlings are a fun class to play. Especially if you really play up the "I just hatched" naivete alongside the "supernatural killing machine" aspect.

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  • GaddezGaddez Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    OptimusZed wrote: »
    The addition of Dragon hand to hand really helped them jump from generic supernatural creature to feeling like an actual dragon. Before they got that it kind of felt like they were just M.D. sluggers that could polymorph themselves. But things like a tail slap and constriction attacks really made them feel dragon-y.

    Dragon hatchlings are a fun class to play. Especially if you really play up the "I just hatched" naivete alongside the "supernatural killing machine" aspect.

    Really, that's what I loved most about the ultimate edition of rifts, the shift that most of the "underpowered" classes got from being space fillers to getting flavorful additions to their classes abilities without making them stupidly powerful. Too bad they didn't do that way back in '92 and use it as the basis for the whole rifts line.

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  • Boring7Boring7 Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    OptimusZed wrote: »
    The addition of Dragon hand to hand really helped them jump from generic supernatural creature to feeling like an actual dragon. Before they got that it kind of felt like they were just M.D. sluggers that could polymorph themselves. But things like a tail slap and constriction attacks really made them feel dragon-y.

    Dragon hatchlings are a fun class to play. Especially if you really play up the "I just hatched" naivete alongside the "supernatural killing machine" aspect.

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  • rockrngerrockrnger Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    So how much can you do being a dragon?

    Like can shoot a dragon up with juicer drugs or turn them Into robots?

    Is there any downside?

  • OptimusZedOptimusZed Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    Dragons have hardcore, M.D.C. bio-regeneration, so any of the stuff we've covered so far that requires body alteration (Juicer, Borg, Crazy) is off the table.

    Their shapeshifting allows them to use any equipment that humans can use, plus giant equipment meant for D-Bees. Limited by their skills, as per usual.

    The only real downsides are their limited access to skills and the fact that they register as supernatural predators to anyone who has the ability to recognize such, including the Coalition, the Federation of Magic and random psi-stalkers who might be hungry. A dragon hatchling isn't just walking into Coalition-held territory, for example. The dog boys will sniff him out before he even makes it to the gate.

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  • kdrudykdrudy Registered User
    edited April 2011
    I vaguely remember a story my buddy once told of a Rifts game he was playing in where one guy was a dragon. The bad guys used some type of spell that aged everyone in the group like 1000 years or something. This worked out badly for everyone except the dragon who was now just a 1000 year old dragon. It didn't work out well for the bad guys after that either.

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  • OrcaOrca Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    kdrudy wrote: »
    I vaguely remember a story my buddy once told of a Rifts game he was playing in where one guy was a dragon. The bad guys used some type of spell that aged everyone in the group like 1000 years or something. This worked out badly for everyone except the dragon who was now just a 1000 year old dragon. It didn't work out well for the bad guys after that either.

    I don't think the bad guys thought their cunning plan through...

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  • El SkidEl Skid The frozen white northRegistered User regular
    edited April 2011
    What kinds of bonuses do 1000 year old dragons get vs hatchlings, just out of morbid curiosity?

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  • OrcaOrca Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    El Skid wrote: »
    What kinds of bonuses do 1000 year old dragons get vs hatchlings, just out of morbid curiosity?

    Well, their MDC goes up by a factor of 10, they know a shit-ton of spells and psionics...

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  • GaddezGaddez Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    El Skid wrote: »
    What kinds of bonuses do 1000 year old dragons get vs hatchlings, just out of morbid curiosity?

    Depends on the dragon, but I seem to recall that the great horned dragon winds up with 1500-4500 MDC, 8 attacks, a strength attribute around 50 as well as stats all up in the 20's, mastery of at least one kind of magic, a shitload of psionics, dimensional teleportation at will, regenerating 1d6X10 damage per melee, night vision, flight, the ability to see the invisible, turn invisible at will...

    One of these things with addequate MDC can slug it out with anything short of a god and has a good chance of killing it.

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  • El SkidEl Skid The frozen white northRegistered User regular
    edited April 2011
    What level does a hatchling have to be to cast the "age person" spell, out of curiosity? Dunno about you, but I would totally be casting that on myself if I were a dragon...

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  • OptimusZedOptimusZed Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    Reproduced below are the statblocks for the Great Horned Dragon in both Hatchling (available PC class) and adult forms.

    Hatchling:
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    Adult (via Conversion Book 1):
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    Of course, any sane DM isn't going to be playing Rifts. But any marginally sane DM who finds themselves helming a Rifts game probably wouldn't give you a bunch of free skills, magic abilities and psionics just for having been magically aged.

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  • DevoutlyApatheticDevoutlyApathetic I've Done Worse Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    Dragonese/Elven and....Spanish?

    Immigrant dragons taking our PC jobs?

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  • Xenogear_0001Xenogear_0001 Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    You know, I never had anyone try out playing as a dragon in any of my campaigns. I totally would have allowed it, too.

    I did, however, once run a Palladium campaign where every player was some form of higher Demon or Deevil. Had a Raksasha, a Balrog, and an Arch-Fiend, if memory serves. The latter didn't get along too well with the former, what with the warring realms and all.

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  • El SkidEl Skid The frozen white northRegistered User regular
    edited April 2011
    OptimusZed wrote: »
    Of course, any sane DM isn't going to be playing Rifts. But any marginally sane DM who finds themselves helming a Rifts game probably wouldn't give you a bunch of free skills, magic abilities and psionics just for having been magically aged.

    Yeah, I'd give them anything physical, and unless the spell was worded "gives them the experience of living 1000 years", I'd not let them learn new languages, magics that aren't innate etc. Then again, I've never been a Rifts GM... potentially because I'm sane?

    Regardless the extra physical stats sound pretty powerful/broken.

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  • OptimusZedOptimusZed Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    The physical stats are pretty impressive, yeah. Probably in the top two or three tiers of things that can exist under the Palladium system.

    One of these days, I'll show you folks the Cosmo Knight.

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  • captainkcaptaink TexasRegistered User regular
    edited April 2011
    We never had anyone play a dragon either. They just kind of don't fit there at the end of the core book. It's all CS this and magic-user that. Then, bam! supernatural badass creature.

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  • kdrudykdrudy Registered User
    edited April 2011
    Also I'm pretty sure my buddy's story was from when he was like 14 or 15 playing with his friends

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  • Xenogear_0001Xenogear_0001 Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    Oh man, Cosmo-Knights. I think I mentioned them further up-thread, but yeah, it'd be cool to take a detour so people can get an idea of just how crazy-pants-on-head this shit gets.

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  • OptimusZedOptimusZed Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    Any game that includes among its potential player characters a class that is literally designed to go hand to hand with a star destroyer and escape unharmed as well as one that has to choose between the ability to cook beans and basic literacy is alright by me.

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  • BursarBursar 16 tons of #9 coleslaw Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    Haha, Techno-Wizards. My favorite character class. My personal preference was to make items that were more or less indistinguishable from the norm, just running on magic and with classy gem touches (too much and it ends up looking like you Bedazzled your gun [or in modern terms, Swaravski crystaled it]) . Unfortunately, the artists seem to go the route of making everything look like it had been covered with wax and spiderwebs, then held under a heat lamp for half an hour.

    One trick was to take normal SDC weapons, convert them to magic, then take them through checkpoints. "What, this? I shoot rats with it. Won't even put a scratch in that fancy armor of yours."

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  • skyknytskyknyt Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited April 2011
    OptimusZed wrote: »
    Any game that includes among its potential player characters a class that is literally designed to go hand to hand with a star destroyer and escape unharmed as well as one that has to choose between the ability to cook beans and basic literacy is alright by me.

    The best, best, best thing about Cosmo Knights is that you can, literally, trade in your current MDC for MORE MDC.

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  • AssuranAssuran Is swinging on the Spiral Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    The one time we used a Cosmo Knight in our Rifts game, his special magic weapon was a wooden spoon. (why yes, we were in High School).

    And yes, his wooden spoon was more deadly than all the Neruni weaponry the rest of the party used combined.

    Cosmo Knights: Even for Rifts, that shit is rediculous.

  • GaddezGaddez Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    I'm pretty sure that the cosmo knight is one of those classes/races that the company cautions GM's about for balance reasons.

    Which reminds me of the one thing that a lot of people forget about rifts: It's only as nutty as the GM allows it to be. Myself, I was willing to allow my players to take a fairly impressive variety of classes and equpiment, but they had an obligation to explain how all of it made sense. Maxi man with 2 symbiotes? Sure! Dog Boy with genesplicer mods, psynetic impants dual wielding swords of atlantis from the comfort of his TW terrain hopper power armor? Alright smart guy lets hear the details.

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