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A Song of Ice and Fire: The pilot is so close you can taste the incest.
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You sure that's how you pictured it originally? At that point we have no reason to suspect Jamie doesn't throw kids off towers every day, it's only later he develops a soul apparently. Jamie and Cersei fit that scene perfectly, but Bran kind of just stood there instead of almost falling like in the book. Minor detail, it just would have made the shove even 'better' if he got pulled up first like in the book (that of course shows Jamie is even more of a bastard, so maybe they're going with version 2.0 sooner in the TV show).
I thought Jon was near perfect, personally.
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The first season will be the training wheels. After that, shit gets real.
RE: Jamie pushing Bran; I too was a bit disappointed with that. But then when you have an image of how things are supposed to be it's hard not to be - a la Watchmen. That said, there are certain scenes I can't wait for them to film chief of them is:
Not to nitpick and go off topic, but what are nerd threads for -
I was going to say this.
Also, isn't it still asserted that there are Targaryen supporters left in Westeros? I would think any deficiencies in strategy that the Dothraki have they more than make up for in raw numbers, and the lack of manpower coming from the Westeros supporters could be compensated for with strategy, seige engines, and knowledge of the home field.
Book into TV = The finer internal explanations and motivations drop away. The emotions the characters feel are enhanced if the actors are good, which I think they're stellar here. These are the unarguable strengths of each medium.
Ep1 Spoiler:
And that's the point where I decided the people making the show were doing it correctly.
That is a good point, and I agree with you about that scene. I thought Mark Addy handled it (and Robert in general) very well. I also rather liked the scene with:
I was very pleased with how they've handled Arya so far as well.
So they do what every nomad army in Eurasian history did and hire some siege specialists when they need them - I wonder if there will be anyone in the seven kingdoms dissatisfied with the current order and willing to sign up :lol:. Plus Westeros, unlike medieval Europe, has never had to contend with steppe warriors thanks to its isolation, if they attempt something stupid like meeting the Dorthraki in the open field...
I didn't have a problem with it on paper, but I honestly don't know if it's possible for an actual live human actor to deliver a line about "waking the dragon" and have it sound at all menacing. So I don't really know if the issue is the actor or not.
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Thinking about during the show, that quote is sort of petulant and terrible on paper so to see it in real life wasn't going to do it any favors. I'm not a fan of the actor though as I found him ridiculously boring. Creepiness was there though.
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Wasn't really a huge fan of the credit sequence myself, I don't know if it was because it made everything look too orderly, clean and mechanical, or how it jumped between only three locations, as if this were simply a story about Winterfell, King's Landing and Pentos - when in reality things get a lot more complicated than that very quickly.
EDIT: But, if there were a different sequence every episode, identifying the relevant locations for that week, that would be really cool (and really helpful).
EDIT 2: More complaining - the Others.
All in all though, I thought it was amazing.
I'm not sure it was meant to sound threatening (except to Dany, a scared little girl) - to us it was meant to show he was a petulant, pathetic and deranged.
SODOMISE INTOLERANCE
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There is.
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Haven't read the books, but I assume they're EVIL YOMBIES of some description
When the time comes they better have Jaime deliver my favorite line so far:
well
I'm pleased with the episode.
Acting is done very well and it's nice to see the scenes in action. There are some things better conveyed on a screen than read in book
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R..right?
So "waking the dragon" sounding cringe-worthy and embarrassing isn't contrary to the characterisation of Viserys nor a demonstration of clunky phrasing or the weakness of the screenplay/acting/etc.
SODOMISE INTOLERANCE
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The opening credits were amazing; I just loved the way they were done. I'd like to hear more from people who haven't read the books, though. It seemed like they had to edit out so much that it might be hard to follow.
yeah we agree. my bad
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But the very heart of Viserys is his utterly absurd delusions of grandeur juxtaposed with his impotence.
A credulous tool of a rich merchant and a spymaster, laughed at by everyone else, the only person who is remotely impressed with him is his kid sister.
I'll rewatch it and think about it more in the context of this conversation and see if my mind changes.
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If you'd never read the books, yeah, the phrasing is impotent. But from Daenerys' point of view, that phrasing is usually associated with abuse, so it would carry more weight.
Major spoiler:
Overall the first episode was fine. I expect things to get better, though; almost nothing happened, and only a few characters were introduced. I liked how Theon just randomly does shit, but they didn't bother to at least have someone say, "Yes, Theon," or, "No, Theon." You just see him there, standing with all the Starks. But, whatever, it's not like he's got anything to do in the first book.
The wife and I also watched a lot of HBO's mini-specials that explained who the characters are, so I feel that helped in us understanding everything that was going on.
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