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Yeah, I know that. I got IR interested in video games a bit at a time, starting with a GBA and Harvest Moon and eventually working up. But all these skills and concepts that we don't even think about anymore were completely alien to her. Like, we just KNOW when an object is important or how to navigate a 3D world with certain aspects or where to look for hidden stuff. She didn't know those things. It would completely escape me for a moment that she didn't know the uses of a rifle vs a pistol vs a shotgun in a video game setting.
a pistol is used to fight your way back to your rifle, obvs
It is funny to realize how trained you are for games. Like many of the things you do when you play a game are actually fairly complex. We navigate first-person 3d spaces as though it were completely natural to do so but in all honesty we're doing something that is completely foreign to most people. For instance, moving your head and walking straight at the same time in an FP game isn't simple at all, but we can do it entirely reflexively.
God, people at the mall.
GAAAH you're looking in one direction and walking in another and about to bump into me! You saw me coming this way! How could you not realize that we'd collide if we both keep going! Now I have to dodge your oblivious ass!
Aegis possibly. he uh, got a little touchy about that.
edit: Aegeri actually. I'm slipping.
Also, I forgot to post about my forum birthday, nooooooooooo
Let me again recount wherin I had to gas and decapitate a peeping baby chicken because I accidentally left it in the incubator and it hatched
Still shudder about it
I hope you realize that your experience cannot de facto be accepted as the norm
Also I am not sure how much you realize that prior experience manipulating a digital environment in 2d primes you for manipulating it in 3d
busy, finally!
we got a new machine and it does xrays and I have been xraying things all week (or training)
Looks like I am gonna be buried under samples in a few weeks but overall things are working well
Also looks like my moving may be sorta working itself out which is good- still need to find a place in washington but it looks like there are some options
My spatial awareness is off the charts compared to your average person, it seems.
Way back when I was getting my 'sperg diagnose they did various mental tests. That particular hospital is one big Borg cube with winding corridors inside. I was met in the waiting area and then followed the psych guy through these winding windowless corridors to his office.
Later on he asked me about spatial stuff and wondered if I had trouble keeping tracks of locations, and asked if I could point in the direction of the hospital's entrance.
No problems whatsoever for me. Which was apparently a big surprise to him.
Google Talk: ludious83
I was thinking portal would be good because it doesn't have any:
1) guns that shoot bullets
2) gore
3) killing aliens
But at the same time it is a first person puzzle game that requires imagining space in a new way. It might be a bit overwhelming.
What games would be good that you guys recommend? A game we could play together would be ideal.
Which is why I am having trouble understanding why someone who played sonic had trouble with a FPS. It's not exactly an alien concept. My mother doesn't even have a hard time doing these things and she's practically ancient.
In my experience the people who have trouble tend to be the same ones that have a hard time understanding, "Fire hot, burn skin, bad fire."
Any of the Lego: Movie Franchise games would be good, I think.
I dont know- we had some animal guidelines we had to follow and that is what it said
Start out with a platformer maybe? There's that throwback mario for Wii. Anyone should be able to play that. Just don't play in divorce mode
I guess spatial awareness is a rather alien concept to some people. Which is really baffleing. But I guess this is why people get lost driving all the time. Is it really hard to understand that if you were going N/S and made a wrong turn you'd have to turn the opposite way to get back on that same road? Or if there's a wall in front of you, you should turn to avoid collision?
girls love jewels
Portal is a neat game because it expands upon FPS and adds in a physics element to puzzle solving. Those are always the best kinds of puzzles imo.
Because running forward and pressing jump is lightyears removed from visualizing imaginary spaces that you can't see all of the time, not to mention interacting with it in 3 planes instead of two
oh, and instead of two buttons you now have 12
ps. go fuck yourself
The thing about Portal is that Valve does an excellent job of teaching everything to you and working your way up to the challenges it ends up throwing at you. I actually think that it is a really good place to start.
People need to visualize three dimensional spaces that they can't see all the time
I can understand maybe tripping up a little with complex spatial transformations, but "there's a wall there, you were just looking at it" makes no sense to me whatsoever.
edit: Gooey, have you broken your nose from walking into doorframes?
I mean, the fact that human beings can do them at all is a little miraculous.
philly is a very grid-like city (most parts, anyway) and it's impossible for me to conceive how often my bio mom gets lost
'ok so you can go down 4th street for about 2 miles'
'yeah but we live on 2nd street about 2 miles down, son...'
'...i know but there's a lot of traffic on 2nd'
'but if we go down 4th... we need to go towards 2nd, not 4th'
'o_o'
like, the idea of parallel lines is inconceivable to some people
Women and space.
Looking at a visualisation of those three dimensions on a flat 2D screen is the big issue that you need to get over to get good at it, I think.
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I don't have to hit 12 buttons to move forward/backward/jump
Left and right, okay, but spatial movement, for someone familiar with 2 shouldn't be difficult. You're adding a left/right button not inventing the god damned mona lisa while drawing with your buttcheeks. Maybe it's less "This is hard" but more, "This is different." Also, yes that is enjoyable, why is that even an insult?
I vaguely recall some study where the participants navigated a first-person maze on a screen.
Men did better than women... until the women switched to widescreen, then they were as good as men on 4:3 screens.
There was some hunter-gatherer "men used to be the ones that needed these spatial skills when hunting" theory, but I'm not touching that with a ten foot pole.
Yeah, I mean the fact that we are in a 3D space, looking at a 2D plane, which we have to mentally transform into a 3D space, which we then have to accurately manipulate, is an absurdly complex task just speaking in computational terms. If your brain is not used to it, it will be hard!
it is evo-psych idiocy.