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[TV] Game of Thrones, presented by HBO - NO BOOK DISCUSSION.
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So far Catelyn has been...way too not bitchy. They changed some of this from the books but I was already disliking her by this point in the books.
Also, I wish this thread luck in it's endeavor.
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The actress originally slated to play Catelyn, Jennifier Ehle, is like 32 or something. Compared to Michelle's Fairley's 46. So that got changed quite a bit when they changed actresses. I can't seem to find any pics of Ehle's Catelyn though.
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Well everyone was aged up, not just the kids. So Ned is 35 in GOT according to the ASOIAF wiki, but Sean Bean is 52 (even though I pictured a more Benjen Stark looking guy, Bean is obviously perfect). But Michelle Fairley sticks out to me as looking far older than I imagined her. Catelyn is supposed to be 34 in GOT (again according to the AOIAF wiki) but no clue how old Michele Fairley is. I mentioned the discrepency earlier in the book thread http://forums.penny-arcade.com/showthread.php?p=19081055#post19081055but I thought I was the only one who noticed it.
I think I expected a brunette/auburn haired cersei but we got an older, less striking woman. Lena Headey might be too good looking if she was Catelyn actually, I think I pictured someone between Michelle Fairley and Lena Headey. Picky, I know
Sansa also sticks out as a bit too ginger compared to her mom, who she is supposed to resemble closely (remember littlefinger loves sansa in part because of her resemblance to catelyn). Maybe Cat is just too much of a brunette.
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i'm not that disappointed with her actress being older and sorta weepy looking
It would take like five seasons just to get to the end of GoT. There is zero chance they would ever get to the ending of the series (if one does indeed ever get written, but nevermind that for now, I will have faith!).
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He may not have been physically imposing, but he still looked sufficiently sinister.
Everyone cheered at this scene.
Also ... that scene with Tyrion and his nephew was like 7 kinds of awesome.
His comments after the second episode:
I hate to say it, but he has a point. I mean, I'm enjoying it, but I know what's going to happen. I don't feel bad when Viserys is an absolute asshole to his sister, because I know that within a few episodes, he's going to [book spoilers]
I've seen a lot of evidence that the book series isn't for everyone, actually. Whenever it's discussed, there are a few people who say they started reading it, but didn't finish because they weren't enjoying it.
The good news is that this seems to be a small minority of the people who have started reading it, so it would stand to reason that a majority of newcomers to the show should get hooked.
Not that ratings matter all that much to HBO. They must be raking in the new subscription fees from the large and dedicated fan base.
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I mean, names are mentioned in the books (or descriptions given) because that's the only way to indicate that someone is in the background or present in a scene, even if they're not really important yet (but having them have been around for a scene to see something or whatnot may be important). But, with television, you can simply show characters in the scene and you don't have to go out of the way to say they're there, because the audience can see them. And then, when that character actually matters, the viewer gets to know more about him or her (and can have their fun "ah-ha!" moments when they remember the character was present earlier).
I think that it would probably be easier for non-readers to watch the show if the readers did not explain the significance of things and people to them. Let the show play itself out, just like the books did when we read them. I think the explanations draw attention to the "lack" of explanations in the show, even though those unexplained things might not have needed to be explained at that point.
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Same as Soaps and Greek plays really, particularly in the UK. Terrible things happening to people is humanity's favourite entertainment.
Must be some quirk of emolution.
The casting just continues to impress the hell out of me. These characters have lived on the pages and in my head for so long, I was very surprised at how quickly I connected with them all on screen.
And for whoever asked earlier, rumor is that season 2 filming will start in late July. Kind of surprising that they will be waiting so long...wonder if there's some prep work they need to focus on for new locqtions or cgi bits or something.
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My friends and I get together every week to watch it. None of us have ever read the books. Plot is easy enough to follow, although we always have discussions about the episode when it is over. Any confusion is cleared up (or so we think) and we put forth our own theories about the future. The one thing we have trouble with are the names. It happens with a decent sized cast and only being two episodes in. Right now, it's one of like, 5 shows I currently watch. I love it.
EDIT: Also, I was under the impression they weren't going to follow the books exactly.
Also so much of what happens in GoT informs the rest of the series. Unless they are really deviating, I think it's probably safest and easiest for them to stay on the beaten path.
I can sorta see how people would give up on this series. While it's not a complete downer all the time, a lot of bad things do happen. It can get kinda bleak. But that makes the good things that happen even better. When certain shithead princes get slapped around, for an early non-spoiler example.
Still waiting for
Yeah, that's one that I know some people who have read the book find annoying that hasn't been "properly" introduced yet.
Mind, I haven't read the books in a while and I still haven't gotten around to seeing Ep2, so maybe I'm forgetting...
Was he the other character in the Godswood when Catlyn is revealign the Lanister plot, or was that the Castellan. Looks like a blonder, scruffier Robb?
No, he doesn't really do anything interesting for a while and introducing him would only clutter the plot at this point.
He will need to be properly introduced this season (at least I think) because
It's been a long time for me too, but I think that happens in the first book.
Other than I'm really liking the show so far. I never got around to finish the first book so I've got something to look forward to I guess.
Ah, then it seems like we're on the same page then. Good.
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Tastyfish: I don't know--I haven't seen the episode yet. From others' comments, though, it was.
Yeah, that's him.
He's really fine being a background character for a long time, but it's still interesting to watch him.
He's also the guy who almost kills the dire wolf pups, and says something like "I don't follow your orders, I follow your father's orders" to Rob.
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Also, where's HODOR!
I am waiting for "One does not simply walk into Hodor" pics.
Yes, thank you. I understand how it works. I just didn't like the way that particular instance of it was done. My opinion is silly, I guess!
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I hated it for different reasons than I've heard (Cersei more sympathetic, etc.)
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The dark-haired bastard reveal doesn't come until about halfway through the first book, and there's a reason it was paced thusly.
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It's mainly because we don't get PoVs. In the books
Honestly, I like it this way. I never really gave Cat a fair shake; hopefully my friends will be able to.
Pretty much this.
And it's not like there are only bad things happening in the books, some of those people that have it really bad right now or that will be wronged over the course of the series will have a great comeback and some of them will probably have the most awesome revenge.
I really hate it when people say about the books that "noone is save" "omg every character can die" etc.
This just goes to show how skewed the perception of a lot of genre fans is, because the majority of fantastic literature coddles the reader into some juvenile wishfullfillment scenario where badass dudes kick ass and have big adventures and everyone is save.
In your generic fantasy novel you pretty much know who is going to make it and who is the bad guy after 20 pages or so, but that's just not how most GOOD books work.
Of course not everyone can die in these books and of course there are characters that are pretty much save until they have met their destiny, whatever that may be. George R.R. Martin is not using some random number generator to determine who dies next or will decide to kill a character off because he just kinda feels like it.
In most literature worth reading, or movies or shows worth watching bad things happen to characters that feel a lot more real than Drizzt Do Urden or Hanna Montana and some character that you like might die, even if you did not wish or expect it.
That does not mean that everything is oh so dark and doomed and nothing good will ever happen again or that EVERY character can die at any second.
Otherwise, I am not a huge fan of Catelyn, but I don't hate her either. I feel Meh...
Peter Dinklage is probably THE best casting choice. He is AWESOME!! I am super happy about that one, that guy is fantastic!
I really like NCW playing Jaime....a very good choice as well. He has the chops to bring that character to life. Another solid choice.
Sean Bean for Ned is a good solid choice. I am really liking him in this role.
Seriously, the casting for this show is PHENOMENAL!!! Kudo's to HBO and the producers for not only doing this, but doing it RIGHT!!
Like I said, at this point there isn't that much opportunity for this sort of thing in the story so far. About the only little victorious moment I can think of is Tyriod bitchslapping Joffrey, which is less about a character victory and more about "somebody should slap that kid."