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What ho peasants! We’re getting married! Royal Wedding 29th April.

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    LiiyaLiiya Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    Junpei wrote: »

    Aye, just mentioning the outsides. Another entry into the Royal family from common background appears to be the previous Duchess of Kent. What is more surprising is the number of Royals who have been prevented from marrying commoners or have had to do silly things like abdicate or invent entire new religions to get around it.

    It's just daft! Maybe things can be different for them now.

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    LiiyaLiiya Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    According to wiki her grandfather was a cousin of a Lady. I get the impression they had money...? Not sure.

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    SassoriSassori Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    jippee wrote: »
    Sassori wrote: »
    jippee wrote: »
    FAQ wrote: »
    jesus without the guilt is no jesus of mine

    Yeah. next thing you now those damn anglicans and episcopolopo... episciperlists... well HEATHENS will start telling you there's no such thing as hell or satan

    I love that the name was changed in America was so we wouldn't be confused for Royalists during the Revolutionary War.

    Just because I feel like it, I'm going to add "I'm a goddamn heathen episciperlist" to your sig

    Nooooo!

    :(

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    JunpeiJunpei Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    jippee wrote: »
    Liiya wrote: »
    Junpei wrote: »
    Liiya wrote: »
    Goose! wrote: »
    How many times has a commoner married into the royal family?

    Not since the middle ages...?

    Far more often than most people realise it seems

    Countess of Wessex for one. A bunch of previously titled people were not royals and wed into the family (Diana, Prince Philip, etc. etc.)

    But Diana was a Lady, and Phillip born into Greece's royal family.

    wasn't fergie a commoner?

    She was yeah, but her family had a weird connection to the throne so it was always up in the air. Technically though, definitely a commoner, albeit a wealthy one like Kate

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    jippeejippee Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    Sassori wrote: »
    jippee wrote: »
    Sassori wrote: »
    jippee wrote: »
    FAQ wrote: »
    jesus without the guilt is no jesus of mine

    Yeah. next thing you now those damn anglicans and episcopolopo... episciperlists... well HEATHENS will start telling you there's no such thing as hell or satan

    I love that the name was changed in America was so we wouldn't be confused for Royalists during the Revolutionary War.

    Just because I feel like it, I'm going to add "I'm a goddamn heathen episciperlist" to your sig

    Nooooo!

    :(

    just messin' with ya. If I did that, your sig would be an hour long GIF by the end of the year...

    jippee on
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    WrenWren ninja_bird Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    one day I'll marry a queen

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    FAQFAQ Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    If one of the royals married me, now that would be a true cinderella story

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    EdcrabEdcrab Actually a hack Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    "Commoners" with massive amounts of wealth have been quite popular marriage targets in the monarchy's past

    Then again, you could buy a title back then but a title can't buy you wealth. Maybe that was the logic behind it

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    jippeejippee Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    FAQ wrote: »
    If one of the royals married me, now that would be a true cinderella story

    www.wearethewindsorsandyourenotneenerneenerneener.com specifies that spider-vomiting dogs need not apply.

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    Nellie the elephant packed her trunk
    and trundled off to the jungle
    off she rode with a trumpety trump
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    JansonJanson Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    Kilroy wrote: »
    Sassori wrote: »
    Kilroy wrote: »
    They're giving a report on the wedding now.

    The Archbishop has the best voice.

    Oh Dr. Rowan Williams. Even your name is awesome.

    He also has the mightiest eyebrows in all of Christendom.
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    Excuse me

    I present

    my grandfather's
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    LiiyaLiiya Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    Whooooa!

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    SassoriSassori Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    Guess who the next Archbishop of Canterbury is going to be?

    That guy!

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    JunpeiJunpei Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    Janson wrote: »
    Kilroy wrote: »
    Sassori wrote: »
    Kilroy wrote: »
    They're giving a report on the wedding now.

    The Archbishop has the best voice.

    Oh Dr. Rowan Williams. Even your name is awesome.

    He also has the mightiest eyebrows in all of Christendom.
    rowan-williams-9.jpg

    Excuse me

    I present

    my grandfather's
    fran_02.jpg

    Next in line for Archbishop right here!

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    JansonJanson Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    Sadly, my grandparents are Catholic

    Also, those eyebrows are post-trim

    My other grandfather has the awesomest, fullest beard, and neither grandfather is bald

    Growing up I just assumed that all old men grew unending facial hair

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    jippeejippee Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    Janson wrote: »
    Growing up I just assumed that all old men grew unending facial hair

    o_O It's an amazing new fact of life that one eyebrow can beat a moustache. Any moustache.

    jippee on
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    EdcrabEdcrab Actually a hack Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    Incredible

    Those are eyebrows that Gandalf himself would envy!

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    JoeUserJoeUser Forum Santa Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    Edcrab wrote: »
    "Commoners" with massive amounts of wealth have been quite popular marriage targets in the monarchy's past

    Then again, you could buy a title back then but a title can't buy you wealth. Maybe that was the logic behind it

    In the nineteenth and early twentieth centuries, it was common for daughters of wealthy Americans to go and marry some titled guy who needed money.

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    Penguin IncarnatePenguin Incarnate King of Kafiristan Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    How the hell does the throne even work? If William drops dead tomorrow, is she still in line to become a Queen? Or does she have to become the queen first and then he has to drop dead? How do the Targaryens fit into this? And why was Prince Albert always a prince? Wasn't he married to a queen? And just what is a marquess anyways?

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    WrenWren ninja_bird Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    and whats with those hats

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    jippeejippee Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    How the hell does the throne even work? If William drops dead tomorrow, is she still in line to become a Queen? Or does she have to become the queen first and then he has to drop dead? How do the Targaryens fit into this? And why was Prince Albert always a prince? Wasn't he married to a queen? And just what is a marquess anyways?

    I guess if Will went and did the dodo dance, his brother would be next in line.

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    and trundled off to the jungle
    off she rode with a trumpety trump
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    Penguin IncarnatePenguin Incarnate King of Kafiristan Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    The people demand answers!

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    FencingsaxFencingsax It is difficult to get a man to understand, when his salary depends upon his not understanding GNU Terry PratchettRegistered User regular
    edited April 2011
    Marquess is a wife of a Marquis

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    Penguin IncarnatePenguin Incarnate King of Kafiristan Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    No it isn't.

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    LiiyaLiiya Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    If William dies it'll go to Harry, but it goes to Charles after Queeny. She's not in line to become Queen, like Camilla can never become Queen.

    Prince Albert was not always a Prince, he only got that title because his missus was Queen. It goes by blood, not marriage.

    A marquess is a peerage title that has died out pretty much.



    Though I may be wrong on those.

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    Penguin IncarnatePenguin Incarnate King of Kafiristan Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    Oh great, answers.

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    JunpeiJunpei Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    How the hell does the throne even work? If William drops dead tomorrow, is she still in line to become a Queen? Or does she have to become the queen first and then he has to drop dead? How do the Targaryens fit into this? And why was Prince Albert always a prince? Wasn't he married to a queen? And just what is a marquess anyways?

    If he drops dead tomorrow she will be Duchess of Cambridge and that's it, she isn't a Princess and if he becomes King she will become Kings Consort, if he dies, he will be succeeded by Harry and she will return to being Duchess of Cambridge only. Only one person can be the Ruler in this monarchy as far as I'm aware.

    Prince Albert was a Prince to start with (of Greece) and when Elizabeth II became Queen he became the Queens Consort. He renounced his ties to Greek/Danish royalty and became a standard British subject. Later on in their marriage he was given the Prince title (for a second time, lucky fellow)

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    EdcrabEdcrab Actually a hack Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    Which reminds me, I really don't relish the idea of having a King Charles again...

    Charlie boy, when the time comes abdicate in favour of your son please

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    jippeejippee Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    And just what is a marquess anyways?

    It's what a marquee becomes after a spontaneous sex-change.

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    JoeUserJoeUser Forum Santa Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    Liiya wrote: »
    If William dies it'll go to Harry, but it goes to Charles after Queeny. She's not in line to become Queen, like Camilla can never become Queen.

    Prince Albert was not always a Prince, he only got that title because his missus was Queen. It goes by blood, not marriage.

    A marquess is a peerage title that has died out pretty much.



    Though I may be wrong on those.

    Oh hey, the first Google result for "prince albert" sure is something

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    KilroyKilroy timaeusTestified Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    Edcrab wrote: »
    Which reminds me, I really don't relish the idea of having a King Charles again...

    Charlie boy, when the time comes abdicate in favour of your son please

    I maintain that Elizabeth is simply going to refuse to die until after he does.

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    KilroyKilroy timaeusTestified Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    Junpei wrote: »
    How the hell does the throne even work? If William drops dead tomorrow, is she still in line to become a Queen? Or does she have to become the queen first and then he has to drop dead? How do the Targaryens fit into this? And why was Prince Albert always a prince? Wasn't he married to a queen? And just what is a marquess anyways?

    If he drops dead tomorrow she will be Duchess of Cambridge and that's it, she isn't a Princess and if he becomes King she will become Kings Consort, if he dies, he will be succeeded by Harry and she will return to being Duchess of Cambridge only. Only one person can be the Ruler in this monarchy as far as I'm aware.

    Prince Albert was a Prince to start with (of Greece) and when Elizabeth II became Queen he became the Queens Consort. He renounced his ties to Greek/Danish royalty and became a standard British subject. Later on in their marriage he was given the Prince title (for a second time, lucky fellow)

    I think you mean Prince Phillip. Albert was Victoria's husband.

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    Penguin IncarnatePenguin Incarnate King of Kafiristan Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    England sounds like it's just making up its rules of succession as it goes along.

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    JunpeiJunpei Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    Kilroy wrote: »
    Junpei wrote: »
    How the hell does the throne even work? If William drops dead tomorrow, is she still in line to become a Queen? Or does she have to become the queen first and then he has to drop dead? How do the Targaryens fit into this? And why was Prince Albert always a prince? Wasn't he married to a queen? And just what is a marquess anyways?

    If he drops dead tomorrow she will be Duchess of Cambridge and that's it, she isn't a Princess and if he becomes King she will become Kings Consort, if he dies, he will be succeeded by Harry and she will return to being Duchess of Cambridge only. Only one person can be the Ruler in this monarchy as far as I'm aware.

    Prince Albert was a Prince to start with (of Greece) and when Elizabeth II became Queen he became the Queens Consort. He renounced his ties to Greek/Danish royalty and became a standard British subject. Later on in their marriage he was given the Prince title (for a second time, lucky fellow)

    I think you mean Prince Phillip. Albert was Victoria's husband.

    Yes sorry, was about to edit when I realised what I had done >.> I blame PI

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    jippeejippee Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    England sounds like it's just making up its rules as it goes along.

    well Henry VIII was quite a trend setter.

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    LiiyaLiiya Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    Basically: You can only be King or Queen by blood.

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    PaPaPaPa Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    Edcrab wrote: »
    Which reminds me, I really don't relish the idea of having a King Charles again...

    Charlie boy, when the time comes abdicate in favour of your son please
    I have heard rumours that when/if he succeeds to the throne he intends to rule as King George.

    You know, considering what happened to Charles I.

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    EdcrabEdcrab Actually a hack Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    Liiya wrote: »
    Basically: You can only be King or Queen by blood.

    It's like superheroes! Get a syringeful of royal blood and inject it into yourself and you become royalty.

    Comicbook logic always works.

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    jippeejippee Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    PaPa wrote: »
    Edcrab wrote: »
    Which reminds me, I really don't relish the idea of having a King Charles again...

    Charlie boy, when the time comes abdicate in favour of your son please
    I have heard rumours that when/if he succeeds to the throne he intends to rule as King George.

    You know, considering what happened to Charles I.

    that was the dude that got shafted out of his job/life by Cromwell right?

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    and trundled off to the jungle
    off she rode with a trumpety trump
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    KilroyKilroy timaeusTestified Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    Yeah, Charles is not an auspicious name for a King to have.

    Personally I think England is ready for Egbert II.

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    jippeejippee Registered User regular
    edited April 2011
    Kilroy wrote: »
    Yeah, Charles is not an auspicious name for a King to have.

    Personally I think England is ready for Egbert II.

    I like.
    But the best name, the only name for a king should be Diederik.

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    and trundled off to the jungle
    off she rode with a trumpety trump
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