[UNIFIED] DISCUSSION (v5)

Pony · June 2007

Fedora wrote: »

Pony wrote: »

Green wrote: »

t Pony

On an unrelated note, Artisan doesn't bear any striking similarities to da Vinci, does he?

in that he is a bearded man with a honkin' schnoz and long hair perhaps

he used to compare himself to da vinci sometimes

then the vitruvians came along and took the image of the vitruvian man as the symbol of their "pure human" supremecist movement.

and it stopped being cool to be like da vinci

Oh holy shit seriously? Cause I actually thought I gave him a kinda big nose in the picture. Well, that's one thing I don't have to worry about anymore.

naw it's supposed to look like that.

jack state is a man of very mixed racial heritage

DarkPrimus · June 2007

Pony wrote: »

Green wrote: »

Sorenson wrote: »

I got the raven thing, I think.

Spoiler:

It's all about good and evil and stuff. All S.U.N.-related things are good; all non-good things are non-S.U.N.. Just because you can't find something good that isn't in S.U.N. doesn't mean that bad can't exist within S.U.N., and just because you can't find something bad in S.U.N. doesn't mean that goodness can't exist outside of S.U.N.

I am completily wrong on this, aren't I?

There's a reason it's in German

There's also a reason why Pony posted the Artisan's promo image shortly thereafter

"All the black is really white, if you believe it."

To arrive at the truth in all things, we ought always to be ready to believe that what seems to us white is black if the hierarchical Church so defines it.
-- Ignatius de Loyola, Spiritual Exercises (1548)

Bendery It Like Beckham · June 2007

Bendery Is here.

My character is also here. Still lacking in the name department however

Forever Zefiro · June 2007

Pony wrote: »

Green wrote: »

Sorenson wrote: »

I got the raven thing, I think.

Spoiler:

It's all about good and evil and stuff. All S.U.N.-related things are good; all non-good things are non-S.U.N.. Just because you can't find something good that isn't in S.U.N. doesn't mean that bad can't exist within S.U.N., and just because you can't find something bad in S.U.N. doesn't mean that goodness can't exist outside of S.U.N.

I am completily wrong on this, aren't I?

There's a reason it's in German

There's also a reason why Pony posted the Artisan's promo image shortly thereafter

"All the black is really white, if you believe it."

So I was kind of on to something, huh?

Also, I think Mikhail Rorstead and Alekzander Zoetvelt could be good friends

But Sorenson, you know being born in 1977 makes you like 46 at the start of the game

Fedora · June 2007

Also, everybody

Quick word of advice.

Don't fall down the stairs, it sucks and you'll break your foot.

Crutches suck.

Green · June 2007

pfft, who uses stairs anymore

Pony · June 2007

DarkPrimus wrote: »

Pony wrote: »

Green wrote: »

Sorenson wrote: »

I got the raven thing, I think.

Spoiler:

It's all about good and evil and stuff. All S.U.N.-related things are good; all non-good things are non-S.U.N.. Just because you can't find something good that isn't in S.U.N. doesn't mean that bad can't exist within S.U.N., and just because you can't find something bad in S.U.N. doesn't mean that goodness can't exist outside of S.U.N.

I am completily wrong on this, aren't I?

There's a reason it's in German

There's also a reason why Pony posted the Artisan's promo image shortly thereafter

"All the black is really white, if you believe it."

To arrive at the truth in all things, we ought always to be ready to believe that what seems to us white is black if the hierarchical Church so defines it.
-- Ignatius de Loyola, Spiritual Exercises (1548)

"The power of holding two contradictory beliefs in one's mind simultaneously, and accepting both of them. ... To tell deliberate lies while genuinely believing in them, to forget any fact that has become inconvenient, and then, when it becomes necessary again, to draw it back from oblivion for just so long as it is needed, to deny the existence of objective reality and all the while to take account of the reality which one deniesâ€”all this is indispensably necessary. Even in using the word doublethink it is necessary to exercise doublethink. For by using the word one admits that one is tampering with reality; by a fresh act of doublethink one erases this knowledge; and so on indefinitely, with the lie always one leap ahead of the truth."

- George Orwell, Nineteen Eighty-Four

Forever Zefiro · June 2007

Green wrote: »

pfft, who uses stairs anymore

People trying to get away from Daleks

Forever Zefiro · June 2007

Pony, I liked this quote more

"If one is to rule, and to continue ruling, one must be able to dislocate the sense of reality. For the secret of rulership is to combine a belief in one's own infallibility with the power to learn from past mistakes."

Fedora · June 2007

Forever Zefiro wrote: »

Green wrote: »

pfft, who uses stairs anymore

People trying to get away from Daleks

Drunk people who think "Pssh, that's what, 15...16 steps? I can jump down that easy"

Turns out I couldn't.

Redeemer · June 2007

That sounds really pubey, Fedora

Vivixenne · June 2007

Bendery wrote: »

Bendery Is here.

My character is also here. Still lacking in the name department however

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eye_of_Providence

Fedora · June 2007

Redeemer wrote: »

That sounds really pubey, Fedora

I'm not a smart man, not at all.

Pony · June 2007

ankles are funny things

i've jumped thirty feet straight down, landing on my feet, without injury

i've slipped walking on some gravel and i fractured my ankle.

Green · June 2007

Fedora wrote: »

Forever Zefiro wrote: »

Green wrote: »

pfft, who uses stairs anymore

People trying to get away from Daleks

Drunk people who think "Pssh, that's what, 15...16 steps? I can jump down that easy"

Turns out I couldn't.

Well look on the bright side

Plenty of time for drawing

DarkPrimus · June 2007

Pony wrote: »

DarkPrimus wrote: »

Pony wrote: »

Green wrote: »

Sorenson wrote: »

I got the raven thing, I think.

Spoiler:

It's all about good and evil and stuff. All S.U.N.-related things are good; all non-good things are non-S.U.N.. Just because you can't find something good that isn't in S.U.N. doesn't mean that bad can't exist within S.U.N., and just because you can't find something bad in S.U.N. doesn't mean that goodness can't exist outside of S.U.N.

I am completily wrong on this, aren't I?

There's a reason it's in German

There's also a reason why Pony posted the Artisan's promo image shortly thereafter

"All the black is really white, if you believe it."

To arrive at the truth in all things, we ought always to be ready to believe that what seems to us white is black if the hierarchical Church so defines it.
-- Ignatius de Loyola, Spiritual Exercises (1548)

"The power of holding two contradictory beliefs in one's mind simultaneously, and accepting both of them. ... To tell deliberate lies while genuinely believing in them, to forget any fact that has become inconvenient, and then, when it becomes necessary again, to draw it back from oblivion for just so long as it is needed, to deny the existence of objective reality and all the while to take account of the reality which one deniesâ€”all this is indispensably necessary. Even in using the word doublethink it is necessary to exercise doublethink. For by using the word one admits that one is tampering with reality; by a fresh act of doublethink one erases this knowledge; and so on indefinitely, with the lie always one leap ahead of the truth."

- George Orwell, Nineteen Eighty-Four

But God hath chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise; and God hath chosen the weak things of the world to confound the things which are mighty
-1 Corinthians 1:27

Vivixenne · June 2007

Fedora wrote: »

Forever Zefiro wrote: »

Green wrote: »

pfft, who uses stairs anymore

People trying to get away from Daleks

Drunk people who think "Pssh, that's what, 15...16 steps? I can jump down that easy"

Turns out I couldn't.

Ouch. Get better soon, Feds.

Pony · June 2007

now

go and give ultimatum and the artisan's promo art posters another look over

see what you think now

Mr. Shine · June 2007

DarkPrimus wrote: »

Pony wrote: »

DarkPrimus wrote: »

Pony wrote: »

Green wrote: »

Sorenson wrote: »

I got the raven thing, I think.

Spoiler:

It's all about good and evil and stuff. All S.U.N.-related things are good; all non-good things are non-S.U.N.. Just because you can't find something good that isn't in S.U.N. doesn't mean that bad can't exist within S.U.N., and just because you can't find something bad in S.U.N. doesn't mean that goodness can't exist outside of S.U.N.

I am completily wrong on this, aren't I?

There's a reason it's in German

There's also a reason why Pony posted the Artisan's promo image shortly thereafter

"All the black is really white, if you believe it."

To arrive at the truth in all things, we ought always to be ready to believe that what seems to us white is black if the hierarchical Church so defines it.
-- Ignatius de Loyola, Spiritual Exercises (1548)

"The power of holding two contradictory beliefs in one's mind simultaneously, and accepting both of them. ... To tell deliberate lies while genuinely believing in them, to forget any fact that has become inconvenient, and then, when it becomes necessary again, to draw it back from oblivion for just so long as it is needed, to deny the existence of objective reality and all the while to take account of the reality which one deniesâ€”all this is indispensably necessary. Even in using the word doublethink it is necessary to exercise doublethink. For by using the word one admits that one is tampering with reality; by a fresh act of doublethink one erases this knowledge; and so on indefinitely, with the lie always one leap ahead of the truth."

- George Orwell, Nineteen Eighty-Four

But God hath chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise; and God hath chosen the weak things of the world to confound the things which are mighty
-1 Corinthians 1:27

Why are you not Zealot?

No offense Green I still love you the most

Green · June 2007

Mr. Shine wrote: »

DarkPrimus wrote: »

Pony wrote: »

DarkPrimus wrote: »

Pony wrote: »

Green wrote: »

Sorenson wrote: »

I got the raven thing, I think.

Spoiler:

It's all about good and evil and stuff. All S.U.N.-related things are good; all non-good things are non-S.U.N.. Just because you can't find something good that isn't in S.U.N. doesn't mean that bad can't exist within S.U.N., and just because you can't find something bad in S.U.N. doesn't mean that goodness can't exist outside of S.U.N.

I am completily wrong on this, aren't I?

There's a reason it's in German

There's also a reason why Pony posted the Artisan's promo image shortly thereafter

"All the black is really white, if you believe it."

To arrive at the truth in all things, we ought always to be ready to believe that what seems to us white is black if the hierarchical Church so defines it.
-- Ignatius de Loyola, Spiritual Exercises (1548)

"The power of holding two contradictory beliefs in one's mind simultaneously, and accepting both of them. ... To tell deliberate lies while genuinely believing in them, to forget any fact that has become inconvenient, and then, when it becomes necessary again, to draw it back from oblivion for just so long as it is needed, to deny the existence of objective reality and all the while to take account of the reality which one denies—all this is indispensably necessary. Even in using the word doublethink it is necessary to exercise doublethink. For by using the word one admits that one is tampering with reality; by a fresh act of doublethink one erases this knowledge; and so on indefinitely, with the lie always one leap ahead of the truth."

- George Orwell, Nineteen Eighty-Four

But God hath chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise; and God hath chosen the weak things of the world to confound the things which are mighty
-1 Corinthians 1:27

Why are you not Zealot?

A prudent man concealeth knowledge: but the heart of fools proclaimeth foolishness.

Spoiler:

Mr. Shine · June 2007

Green wrote: »

Mr. Shine wrote: »

DarkPrimus wrote: »

Pony wrote: »

DarkPrimus wrote: »

Pony wrote: »

Green wrote: »

Sorenson wrote: »

I got the raven thing, I think.

Spoiler:

It's all about good and evil and stuff. All S.U.N.-related things are good; all non-good things are non-S.U.N.. Just because you can't find something good that isn't in S.U.N. doesn't mean that bad can't exist within S.U.N., and just because you can't find something bad in S.U.N. doesn't mean that goodness can't exist outside of S.U.N.

I am completily wrong on this, aren't I?

There's a reason it's in German

There's also a reason why Pony posted the Artisan's promo image shortly thereafter

"All the black is really white, if you believe it."

To arrive at the truth in all things, we ought always to be ready to believe that what seems to us white is black if the hierarchical Church so defines it.
-- Ignatius de Loyola, Spiritual Exercises (1548)

"The power of holding two contradictory beliefs in one's mind simultaneously, and accepting both of them. ... To tell deliberate lies while genuinely believing in them, to forget any fact that has become inconvenient, and then, when it becomes necessary again, to draw it back from oblivion for just so long as it is needed, to deny the existence of objective reality and all the while to take account of the reality which one denies—all this is indispensably necessary. Even in using the word doublethink it is necessary to exercise doublethink. For by using the word one admits that one is tampering with reality; by a fresh act of doublethink one erases this knowledge; and so on indefinitely, with the lie always one leap ahead of the truth."

- George Orwell, Nineteen Eighty-Four

But God hath chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise; and God hath chosen the weak things of the world to confound the things which are mighty
-1 Corinthians 1:27

Why are you not Zealot?

A prudent man concealeth knowledge: but the heart of fools proclaimeth foolishness.

The prudent man speaks normally; the foolish man ignores others' love and uses the 'eth' suffix in an attempt to impress.

Spoiler:

Sorenson · June 2007

So: what's good is actually bad, and what's bad is actually good. So that could mean...

I've got an idea, but for risk of life and limb I ain't talkin'.

DarkPrimus wrote: »

Although he looks like a regular SWAT guy.

Discretion's the better part of survival, you could say, though I suppose a re-color is workable now that he's not running from The Man.

I wonder how magical stuff interacts with the temporal field? I've been pondering that a lot, actually. Like, if Transfer and Wordsmith fought, Wordsmith's ability would not accidentally hit Wordsmith if they were swapped- the Lexicon would double-back and try to hit Transfer.

...to be honest, I'm not sure. I guess it'd be weakened like everything else because of the dialation - difference between turning a flamethrower on a guy and inching closer and closer and closer still with a lighter, or maybe it simply can't get a "hold" of him like with psychic stuff.

DarkPrimus · June 2007

Green wrote: »

Mr. Shine wrote: »

DarkPrimus wrote: »

Pony wrote: »

DarkPrimus wrote: »

Pony wrote: »

Green wrote: »

Sorenson wrote: »

I got the raven thing, I think.

Spoiler:

It's all about good and evil and stuff. All S.U.N.-related things are good; all non-good things are non-S.U.N.. Just because you can't find something good that isn't in S.U.N. doesn't mean that bad can't exist within S.U.N., and just because you can't find something bad in S.U.N. doesn't mean that goodness can't exist outside of S.U.N.

I am completily wrong on this, aren't I?

There's a reason it's in German

There's also a reason why Pony posted the Artisan's promo image shortly thereafter

"All the black is really white, if you believe it."

To arrive at the truth in all things, we ought always to be ready to believe that what seems to us white is black if the hierarchical Church so defines it.
-- Ignatius de Loyola, Spiritual Exercises (1548)

"The power of holding two contradictory beliefs in one's mind simultaneously, and accepting both of them. ... To tell deliberate lies while genuinely believing in them, to forget any fact that has become inconvenient, and then, when it becomes necessary again, to draw it back from oblivion for just so long as it is needed, to deny the existence of objective reality and all the while to take account of the reality which one deniesâ€”all this is indispensably necessary. Even in using the word doublethink it is necessary to exercise doublethink. For by using the word one admits that one is tampering with reality; by a fresh act of doublethink one erases this knowledge; and so on indefinitely, with the lie always one leap ahead of the truth."

- George Orwell, Nineteen Eighty-Four

But God hath chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise; and God hath chosen the weak things of the world to confound the things which are mighty
-1 Corinthians 1:27

Why are you not Zealot?

A prudent man concealeth knowledge: but the heart of fools proclaimeth foolishness.

Spoiler:

Proverbs 12:23

â€œThere is no darkness but ignorance.â€

Spoiler:

#pipe · June 2007

DarkPrimus wrote: »

But God hath chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise; and God hath chosen the weak things of the world to confound the things which are mighty
-1 Corinthians 1:27

And down from the sky came a bird of bright white//
And it flew low that Isaac did see, and marvel at it's grace//
And Isaac knew it was come of The Lord//
Then the bird said unto Isacc//
Go, Isacc, it's your birthday//
Gon party like it's your birthday//
Gon sip Bacardi like it's your birthday//
And you know we don't give a fuck it's not your birthday//

-1 Fitty 12:21

Mr. Shine · June 2007

#pipe wrote: »

DarkPrimus wrote: »

But God hath chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise; and God hath chosen the weak things of the world to confound the things which are mighty
-1 Corinthians 1:27

And down from the sky came a bird of bright white//
And it flew low that Isaac did see, and marvel at it's grace//
And Isaac knew it was come of The Lord//
Then the bird said unto Isacc//
Go, Isacc, it's your birthday//
Gon party like it's your birthday//
Gon sip Bacardi like it's your birthday//
And you know we don't give a fuck it's not your birthday//

-1 Fitty 12:21

:^:

Also WATCH OUT QUOTE WAR UP IN THIS PIECE

Green · June 2007

Thou shalt partake of thine smoking recreations every day

Proverbs 4:20

Forever Zefiro · June 2007

Oh fuck

Uh

A guess...

Spoiler:

Pony · June 2007

the answer's gonna be shitting his pants for days.

Green · June 2007

Pony wrote: »

the answer's gonna be shitting his pants for days.

His entire pants?

Pony · June 2007

so guys with all this speculation and quotation of philosophy on the nature of good and evil and thought and reality and deceit

how does this play into it?

does it at all?

who knows!

Spoiler:

Anjin-San · June 2007

Forever Zefiro wrote: »

Oh fuck

Uh

A guess...

Spoiler:

Valor and Artisan created the Anathema to ruin the world so that they could get into power, but because of doublethink, forgot they did it and think that they didn't do it, in an attempt to make the world better.

And apparently

Spoiler:

Pony · June 2007

Hey guys

You want to know Ultimatum's weakness?

His "kryptonite"?

Mr. Shine · June 2007

Who keeps the metric system down?

Spoiler:

Forever Zefiro · June 2007

Pony wrote: »

so guys with all this speculation and quotation of philosophy on the nature of good and evil and thought and reality and deceit

how does this play into it?

does it at all?

who knows!

Spoiler:

I do.

Spoiler:

Green · June 2007

Pony wrote: »

Hey guys

You want to know Ultimatum's weakness?

His "kryptonite"?

Besides bullets?

Fedora · June 2007

Green wrote: »

Well look on the bright side

Plenty of time for drawing

I actually spent most of my down time coming up with potential issues for my character.

I've got about 8 now, and one major story arc.

It's shaping up to be pretty cool.

I got mafia goons, warlocks, and even a cameo by "Silence".

Anjin-San · June 2007

Pony wrote: »

Hey guys

You want to know Ultimatum's weakness?

His "kryptonite"?

Water?

Sexual Companionship?

The letter "H"?

Vivixenne · June 2007

Green wrote: »

Pony wrote: »

Hey guys

You want to know Ultimatum's weakness?

His "kryptonite"?

Besides bullets?

To the heart and head?

Pony · June 2007

Green wrote: »

Pony wrote: »

Hey guys

You want to know Ultimatum's weakness?

His "kryptonite"?

Besides bullets?

Here it is

His greatest weakness

The way he can be brought down and destroyed

Spoiler:

Green · June 2007

Pony wrote: »

Green wrote: »

Pony wrote: »

Hey guys

You want to know Ultimatum's weakness?

His "kryptonite"?

Besides bullets?

Here it is

His greatest weakness

The way he can be brought down and destroyed

Spoiler:

Doubt.

Heeeeeey, that seems awfully familiar

Penny Arcade

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