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    The Black HunterThe Black Hunter The key is a minimum of compromise, and a simple, unimpeachable reason to existRegistered User regular
    edited May 2011
    The prices in Fire and Steel are what is killing me

    I just can't buy anything.

    Want a basic mace, that's 5000. Killing 45 bandits will net you like, 300

    You have what you are lucky enough to come across, that's it. The game needs serious balancing unfortunately

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    ArrathArrath Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    Do some trading to earn quick cash. Once you have a bit, then do a caravan or two. Mad money!

    Then you can sit astride your horse behind your skirmish line of a few dozen musket guys and gloat as they slaughter everything before them.

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    hailthefishhailthefish Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    Yeah, thus far WFAS seems a lot less focused on the player's individual contribution to the battle and more focused on developing and deploying your forces well.

    And doing quests is a way better moneymaker than killing bandits and selling their trash.

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    The Black HunterThe Black Hunter The key is a minimum of compromise, and a simple, unimpeachable reason to existRegistered User regular
    edited May 2011
    Quests used to be so useless

    Guess I gotta do that then

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    L|amaL|ama Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    certain types of quests were good

    track down bandit/find bandit hideout from city merchants mostly

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    Beef AvengerBeef Avenger Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    The prices in Fire and Steel are what is killing me

    I just can't buy anything.

    Want a basic mace, that's 5000. Killing 45 bandits will net you like, 300

    You have what you are lucky enough to come across, that's it. The game needs serious balancing unfortunately

    get caravan of velvet in the east and sell it to the west (like from Sich to Novgorod, you wanna buy for ~100-150 each, sell for 800+). You can make up to 100,000 thaler per trip. Also, a store only needs one of an item in the goods store to make a full caravan, so if you keep a velvet in your inventory you can sell it to a place where you know there should cheap velvet but is out, then make the caravan, then buy back your velvet. I made 1.5 million thaler pretty quick doing this last night

    You can speed up travel time a ton by holding ctrl+space

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    FyndirFyndir Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    I saved up from a couple of easy quests, and found that a smaller force of 10 guys could do the force peasants to give you supplies option without starting a fight, then sell their trade goods, repeat until you can hire more troops, once I had about 60 mercenaries I started looting and burning villages, they never rebelled against this, and I started making some really nice money selling even more trade goods that I got from them.

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    The Black HunterThe Black Hunter The key is a minimum of compromise, and a simple, unimpeachable reason to existRegistered User regular
    edited May 2011
    Really tempted to just torch the countryside for cash dollars

    I tried a caravan, selling dates, went across the map at the most painful speed, and halved my money

    I have no idea what is made where, is there a more comprehensive list? I'll do the ones you guys have mentioned

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    Lord_AsmodeusLord_Asmodeus goeticSobriquet: Here is your magical cryptic riddle-tumour: I AM A TIME MACHINERegistered User regular
    edited May 2011
    How much money do you need to send a caravan, because I have had well over a thousand thaler and asked in every goddamn city I could find, and when I tell them where I want to send my caravan, I just say "Another time" which leads me to believe it's pretty expensive.

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    Capital is only the fruit of labor, and could never have existed if Labor had not first existed. Labor is superior to capital, and deserves much the higher consideration. - Lincoln
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    The Black HunterThe Black Hunter The key is a minimum of compromise, and a simple, unimpeachable reason to existRegistered User regular
    edited May 2011
    My date caravan was like 5700

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    Beef AvengerBeef Avenger Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    Really tempted to just torch the countryside for cash dollars

    I tried a caravan, selling dates, went across the map at the most painful speed, and halved my money

    I have no idea what is made where, is there a more comprehensive list? I'll do the ones you guys have mentioned

    Get someone with high trade skill (ingri or whatever he name is), then Assess the market and it'll tell you where the money's at. you shouldn't do it at random

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    MrMonroeMrMonroe passed out on the floor nowRegistered User regular
    edited May 2011
    I fear I may need to restart this game

    Poland is getting progressively smaller compared to Sweden and I really don't have enough money or troops to make another breakout attempt at wealth and fame

    gonna have to try Beef Avenger's method, that sounds pretty solid

    also maybe ally myself with someone other than the Polish, they're just getting pounded on all sides with only one war between the russians and the... other guys who are not Sweden... to give them any sort of respite from the fighting

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    KwoaruKwoaru Confident Smirk Flawless Golden PecsRegistered User regular
    edited May 2011
    yeah I had to restart my game when I realized I made the critical mistake of making an ally of the smallest country and an enemy of the largest

    And I was so poor

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    Beef AvengerBeef Avenger Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    MrMonroe wrote: »
    I fear I may need to restart this game

    Poland is getting progressively smaller compared to Sweden and I really don't have enough money or troops to make another breakout attempt at wealth and fame

    gonna have to try Beef Avenger's method, that sounds pretty solid

    also maybe ally myself with someone other than the Polish, they're just getting pounded on all sides with only one war between the russians and the... other guys who are not Sweden... to give them any sort of respite from the fighting

    to save yourself some time, export your character then import it into the new game. Let's you hold on to your stats (and money maybe i forget)

    Character->Statistics->Export Character
    Then give the new character the same name and import

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    MrMonroeMrMonroe passed out on the floor nowRegistered User regular
    edited May 2011
    MrMonroe wrote: »
    I fear I may need to restart this game

    Poland is getting progressively smaller compared to Sweden and I really don't have enough money or troops to make another breakout attempt at wealth and fame

    gonna have to try Beef Avenger's method, that sounds pretty solid

    also maybe ally myself with someone other than the Polish, they're just getting pounded on all sides with only one war between the russians and the... other guys who are not Sweden... to give them any sort of respite from the fighting

    to save yourself some time, export your character then import it into the new game. Let's you hold on to your stats (and money maybe i forget)

    Character->Statistics->Export Character
    Then give the new character the same name and import

    wait, really?

    I thought that was just to share the character, I didn't realize it was like new game +

    I'm definitely going to do that

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    ScudoScudo Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    L|ama wrote: »
    the warband sword animations still really annoy me

    to the point that I just get the biggest sword i can find and swing it like a maniac

    Yeah they're pretty ugly and I find it hard to tell how high/low I'm aiming

    Scudo on
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    Metzger MeisterMetzger Meister It Gets Worse before it gets any better.Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    Agahnim wrote: »
    I am still looking for a worthwhile magic mod for this game.

    solid and shade is alright. fuckin' necromancy and shit.

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    SomestickguySomestickguy Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    The prices in Fire and Steel are what is killing me

    I just can't buy anything.

    Want a basic mace, that's 5000. Killing 45 bandits will net you like, 300

    You have what you are lucky enough to come across, that's it. The game needs serious balancing unfortunately

    get caravan of velvet in the east and sell it to the west (like from Sich to Novgorod, you wanna buy for ~100-150 each, sell for 800+). You can make up to 100,000 thaler per trip. Also, a store only needs one of an item in the goods store to make a full caravan, so if you keep a velvet in your inventory you can sell it to a place where you know there should cheap velvet but is out, then make the caravan, then buy back your velvet. I made 1.5 million thaler pretty quick doing this last night

    You can speed up travel time a ton by holding ctrl+space

    This.... was really solid advice.

    Double barrel pistol woooo!

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    YaYaYaYa Decent. Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    should I give Fire and Sword another try or leave it for a little and play Pendor which I've never played before

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    FyndirFyndir Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    The prices in Fire and Steel are what is killing me

    I just can't buy anything.

    Want a basic mace, that's 5000. Killing 45 bandits will net you like, 300

    You have what you are lucky enough to come across, that's it. The game needs serious balancing unfortunately

    get caravan of velvet in the east and sell it to the west (like from Sich to Novgorod, you wanna buy for ~100-150 each, sell for 800+). You can make up to 100,000 thaler per trip. Also, a store only needs one of an item in the goods store to make a full caravan, so if you keep a velvet in your inventory you can sell it to a place where you know there should cheap velvet but is out, then make the caravan, then buy back your velvet. I made 1.5 million thaler pretty quick doing this last night

    You can speed up travel time a ton by holding ctrl+space

    This.... was really solid advice.

    Double barrel pistol woooo!

    I think I'll have to start a new save so I can apply this advice, I've upset everyone other than Sweden in my current attempt.

    Oops.

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    Beef AvengerBeef Avenger Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    YaYa wrote: »
    should I give Fire and Sword another try or leave it for a little and play Pendor which I've never played before

    My opinion, leave it. It's really only a glorified mod, doesn't add much. Really the only thing new is grenades, guns are basically crossbows (they're even still called crossbows in the character files!)

    I enjoy Pendor a lot more

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    DoobhDoobh She/Her, Ace Pan/Bisexual 8-) What's up, bootlickers?Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    I'm liking Vanilla a bunch more than Pendor

    no crazy-ass wild card groups of 1000 strong just wandering the map

    just a bunch of assholes who want to unite the land under their favorite asshole

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    KwoaruKwoaru Confident Smirk Flawless Golden PecsRegistered User regular
    edited May 2011
    gotta be that asshole

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    BerkBerk THE BUDGIE SMUGGLER Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    im doing this pain in the ass balls quest where youre meant to retreive this hidden stash of money for the cossacks only they wont fucking tell you what the password is so you've got to go on a merry jig through the steppes asking everyone what it could be ... oh and nearly every one you ask is wrong.

    fucking cossacks bet theyre laughing behind my back

    800px-Repin_Cossacks.jpg

    Berk on
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    The Black HunterThe Black Hunter The key is a minimum of compromise, and a simple, unimpeachable reason to existRegistered User regular
    edited May 2011
    Berk wrote: »
    im doing this pain in the ass balls quest where youre meant to retreive this hidden stash of money for the cossacks only they wont fucking tell you what the password is so you've got to go on a merry jig through the steppes asking everyone what it could be ... oh and nearly every one you ask is wrong.

    fucking cossacks bet theyre laughing behind my back

    800px-Repin_Cossacks.jpg

    Make war with them

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    hailthefishhailthefish Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    The russians probably know.

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    L|amaL|ama Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    cool so PoP just constantly fucking crashes

    sometimes I get a couple of battles in first, most of the time not

    it's not even a consistent error, sometimes it's a runtime error and sometimes it says it's missing a file

    piece of shit

    it did say it thought it was an earlier version when i first installed, but ohhhhhh maybe it's confused because I have vanilla M&B installed

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    Beef AvengerBeef Avenger Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    L|ama wrote: »
    cool so PoP just constantly fucking crashes

    sometimes I get a couple of battles in first, most of the time not

    it's not even a consistent error, sometimes it's a runtime error and sometimes it says it's missing a file

    piece of shit

    it did say it thought it was an earlier version when i first installed, but ohhhhhh maybe it's confused because I have vanilla M&B installed

    PoP 3.301 for Warband: http://forums.taleworlds.com/index.php/topic,126952.0.html

    PoP 3.011 for M&B vanilla: http://forums.taleworlds.com/index.php/topic,148192.0.html

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    L|amaL|ama Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    its definitely 3.301, and it definitely thinks that I have warband 1.124 when i definitely have warband 1.134

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    Beef AvengerBeef Avenger Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    oh ok i thought you meant you might have the warband version installed on vanilla

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    L|amaL|ama Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    nah, just thought there might be some interference there somehow

    next step would be reinstalling warband buuuut I don't really wanna download another gig or whatever (+ don't think it would help for some reason)

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    The Black HunterThe Black Hunter The key is a minimum of compromise, and a simple, unimpeachable reason to existRegistered User regular
    edited May 2011
    Okay, so basing my career on trading instead has been a good decision. I just need to raise a force that can defend against any bandits so I can do full wagon runs and I'll be sweet

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    KwoaruKwoaru Confident Smirk Flawless Golden PecsRegistered User regular
    edited May 2011
    Are shields worth a damn for blocking bullets in FaS?

    I think I'm going to remake my character as a high charisma trading/army building focused character and so I've got to come up with a good way to stay alive since I'm not going to be able to shoot the broad side of a barn while riding my horse

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    The Black HunterThe Black Hunter The key is a minimum of compromise, and a simple, unimpeachable reason to existRegistered User regular
    edited May 2011
    I just did that, it's not too difficult, just a couple points into horseback shooting and you'r golden, though all your shots will be close range

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    KwoaruKwoaru Confident Smirk Flawless Golden PecsRegistered User regular
    edited May 2011
    Yeah most of my kills are close range, either trotting in a circle while the unwashed sword waving masses follow me, or after bumping into an enemy rifleman while he reloads and doing him execution style

    Do shields block bullets well/at all?

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    The Black HunterThe Black Hunter The key is a minimum of compromise, and a simple, unimpeachable reason to existRegistered User regular
    edited May 2011
    They do, but shields don't like them much

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    ieyeasuieyeasu Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    So I guess there's a public line battle today for Musket and Mount

    http://forums.taleworlds.com/index.php/topic,152599.0.html

    Necessary thread.

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    MrMonroeMrMonroe passed out on the floor nowRegistered User regular
    edited May 2011
    shields might slow bullets down a little

    but there's a reason no one in the big professional armies uses them at all

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    KwoaruKwoaru Confident Smirk Flawless Golden PecsRegistered User regular
    edited May 2011
    Yeah that's what I figured, I guess I'm better off investing in a fast horse than a fancy shield if my goal is not getting shot

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    MrMonroeMrMonroe passed out on the floor nowRegistered User regular
    edited May 2011
    ieyeasu wrote: »
    So I guess there's a public line battle today for Musket and Mount

    http://forums.taleworlds.com/index.php/topic,152599.0.html

    Necessary thread.

    Eastern is GMT-4 right now, right?

    about what time should I log in to teamspeak as a complete stranger to those boards in order to figure out whose orders I'm supposed to be following?

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