Is there a way to arrest these street crime guys? I always kill everybody.
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There are a few different types of street crime. About 80% involve you shooting everyone. There are a few car chases followed by arresting the culprit, a few brawling strret crimes were you arrest the culpirt, a few foot chases were you arrest the guy and I've seen at least one that can be solved by a warning shot. Nearly all are just shooting everyone though.
Anyone know of a good vechile list/rough locations for this game? I'm currently at 86/95 and I've never seen a police van around, have a bunch of samey looking sports and 2 door cars left and a couple of service I just can't find.
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He points out the problems pretty well, but completely misses what Noire is all about. He also missed how the ratings are approval from your department and NOT an objective judgement about the quality of your work/accuracy of your charging.
Not his best since he seems to think that the inspiration and concepts taken from LA Confidential is some sort of bad thing.
So I'm understanding that the PS3 exclusive case (Consul's Car) apparently requires a voucher that is only found in new copies of the US version of the game? So anybody that buys a non-US version or a used version doesn't get that case.
If that's the case, it seems fairly likely that it will be eventually released to everyone as a paid DLC. Though I wonder if that would include 360 users or not.
Just finished and tend to agree with some of the other comments
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hat it feels a little rushed. Not Phelps dying per se, but it would have made more sense if he'd been swept away just as he got Kelso up - the deliberate (?) self-sacrifice didn't seem to fit well; what was the point? The funeral was fucking awesome though.
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You don't have to pick it up in the room; you can instead pick up the carbine to the left of it, which is a much better weapon. The flamethrower is practically useless. Just stay away from the flamethrower.
On Phelps's backstory:
I still don't understand his whole thing with Elsa because it was never sketched in. The most we get out of why Straight-Arrow Phelps cheats on his beloved wife and little kids is Elsa's comments to Fontaine. But before that it's, he hangs out at the Blue Note because Roy introduces him, then he's having an affair, what? We don't even know his wife's name until she throws him out, so we have no idea if they had a strained marriage, if he married her on furlough (there are a lot of references to this in the game for others - perhaps a hint?) and wasn't happy but stuck it out, whatever. For the first half of the game I was wondering if she was a war bride.
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Just finished and tend to agree with some of the other comments
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hat it feels a little rushed. Not Phelps dying per se, but it would have made more sense if he'd been swept away just as he got Kelso up - the deliberate (?) self-sacrifice didn't seem to fit well; what was the point? The funeral was fucking awesome though.
On flamethrowers:
You don't have to pick it up in the room; you can instead pick up the carbine to the left of it, which is a much better weapon. The flamethrower is practically useless. Just stay away from the flamethrower.
On Phelps's backstory:
I still don't understand his whole thing with Elsa because it was never sketched in. The most we get out of why Straight-Arrow Phelps cheats on his beloved wife and little kids is Elsa's comments to Fontaine. But before that it's, he hangs out at the Blue Note because Roy introduces him, then he's having an affair, what? We don't even know his wife's name until she throws him out, so we have no idea if they had a strained marriage, if he married her on furlough (there are a lot of references to this in the game for others - perhaps a hint?) and wasn't happy but stuck it out, whatever. For the first half of the game I was wondering if she was a war bride.
hmm... Phelps:
Earle kind of hints at it when he says everybody has something that catches their eye, and he does stare at her pretty hard? I dunno. What makes it weird for me is the argument they have during the vice case.
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Another fun bit of that segment is if you pick it up, you can't seem to put it down until after you clear that section. found that out when the range wasn't enough and I couldn't pull the baddies. So I just started rushing everybody, but eh.
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Do I need to activate this from the start screen somehow?
go to the marketplace in the game (press X from the main menu) and you should see all the content available.
the one thing though is you may have to restart the game after downloading it from the ingame marketplace. some of the stuff showed up as "Owned-Installed" right away, but the cases didn't for me even though I downloaded them.
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Do I need to activate this from the start screen somehow?
go to the marketplace in the game (press X from the main menu) and you should see all the content available.
the one thing though is you may have to restart the game after downloading it from the ingame marketplace. some of the stuff showed up as "Owned-Installed" right away, but the cases didn't for me even though I downloaded them.
How does the pass work for already downloaded dlc? Will it download naked city again or see its already there and get the other stuff?
Once you have the pass, it unlocks the DLC as if you own it. You still have to go to the marketplace at the title menu to download the cases individually.
I didn't own any DLC previously, but likely it wouldn't make a difference
It'd probably just show up as "Owned-Installed", I would guess. The pass just gives you access to the content. If its something you don't have, you still have to download it, so it'd be like "Owned-Get Content" or w/e.
Also make sure you do it in the game. If you download the content through the normal marketplace you will buy the content. They also stress that.
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The more I think about this, the more I realize that it's an absolutely brilliant move by Rockstar.
I basically realized that if you pre-ordered, no matter where it was, it makes the most sense to buy the pass. 3 cases will be $12, so even if you pre-ordered somewhere where you already got one of the 4 cases in the pass, it makes more sense to get the pass.
If you just got a suit for pre-ordering, now you get the cases at a discount.
If you didn't pre-order, you get everything for the same exact price that all of us who pre-ordered did (since buying the pass essentially negates your pre-order bonus, as you would have gotten it anyway).
Essentially Rockstar is getting $10 from everyone as opposed to a couple bucks here and there. They also issued a giant fuck you to pre-order bonuses. I love it.
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Is there a way to arrest these street crime guys? I always kill everybody.
There's a reason why there was no prison overcrowding in the 1940s. ;p
Phelps is basically Judge Dredd. It's like, "Base, I need an ambulance here, suspects are all code four." "Good work Phelps, what happened?" "I think this one guy might have stolen someone's shoes. I shot him in the back of the head."
I also was working on one case, and had figured out that one suspect was innocent before I went to see him. So I guess the game wasn't interactive enough to know I had solved the mystery, because when I got to the guy it was a big thing and Phelps was all, "You're going to jail, you evil fucker!" and threw him in the paddy wagon. But Phelps knew the guy was innocent so I guess he's just a sadist.
Earle kind of hints at it when he says everybody has something that catches their eye, and he does stare at her pretty hard? I dunno. What makes it weird for me is the argument they have during the vice case.
True, but:
it isn't really made clear why Phelps, who goes on and on about his wife and kids and is Mr. Tightly Wound, falls for Elsa. We don't even find out his wife's name or that his kids are daughters until he gets thrown out of the house. It's all "wait, suddenly Mr. Family Man is off banging a German lounge singer?" There's not really a sense until much later that Phelps finds something in Elsa that he isn't getting out of his family life - if we had a notion that his marriage was more out of duty, or that it was a 'furlough' marriage (this gets hinted at a lot) or that all his rigid insistence about how awesome his wife is, is more to convince himself than anyone else...it's kinda random. Especially since his later relationship with Elsa is portrayed as close and loving, rather than just "I can't help it, my dick pointed this way".
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Uh, yeah, I bought the Rockstar Pass on the store and installed all the content. When I access the store in-game, it tells me no DLC is available. Consul's Car also does not show up in "Cases" under Traffic (I am currently in Vice).
Earle kind of hints at it when he says everybody has something that catches their eye, and he does stare at her pretty hard? I dunno. What makes it weird for me is the argument they have during the vice case.
True, but:
it isn't really made clear why Phelps, who goes on and on about his wife and kids and is Mr. Tightly Wound, falls for Elsa. We don't even find out his wife's name or that his kids are daughters until he gets thrown out of the house. It's all "wait, suddenly Mr. Family Man is off banging a German lounge singer?" There's not really a sense until much later that Phelps finds something in Elsa that he isn't getting out of his family life - if we had a notion that his marriage was more out of duty, or that it was a 'furlough' marriage (this gets hinted at a lot) or that all his rigid insistence about how awesome his wife is, is more to convince himself than anyone else...it's kinda random. Especially since his later relationship with Elsa is portrayed as close and loving, rather than just "I can't help it, my dick pointed this way".
It's so random, I actually thought it was supposed to be some sort of setup. I was expecting him to say something along the lines of "It's not what it looks like", "This is a misunderstanding", or something.
Nope, apparently he really did just walk in and bang her. Okie dokie then.
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It's so random, I actually thought it was supposed to be some sort of setup. I was expecting him to say something along the lines of "It's not what it looks like", "This is a misunderstanding", or something.
Nope, apparently he really did just walk in and bang her. Okie dokie then.
Yeah, exactly.
You see him go to the apartment and hesitate before knocking, and then Roy sliming around outside, so okay, it LOOKS like he was going there for the first time, but everything was so random that if it later turned out "no, I wasn't sleeping with her, I was just a friend" it wouldn't have been totally unbelievable. Just a failure of writing.
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It's so random, I actually thought it was supposed to be some sort of setup. I was expecting him to say something along the lines of "It's not what it looks like", "This is a misunderstanding", or something.
Nope, apparently he really did just walk in and bang her. Okie dokie then.
Yeah, exactly.
You see him go to the apartment and hesitate before knocking, and then Roy sliming around outside, so okay, it LOOKS like he was going there for the first time, but everything was so random that if it later turned out "no, I wasn't sleeping with her, I was just a friend" it wouldn't have been totally unbelievable. Just a failure of writing.
And a real missed opportunity to put a lot more life into Phelps's character, a huge one.
I've been avoiding this thread like the plague until I finished it. Now that I'm done, here are a few thoughts:
1) Jack Kelso was a much more sympathetic character than Phelps. Phelps always came off as a self-righteous prick. Kelso seems more like just a normal guy trying to do the right thing.
2) The Kelso bits were awesome. I wished I got to play more as him. At first when the character switch happened I was like "bwah?" but then I realized how much fun I was having.
3) The way the ending was presented felt like a rip-off to me. This was Phelps' case, and I felt like I should've been controlling him down in the sewers, not Kelso. Don't get me wrong, I loved playing as Kelso, but thise was not Kelso's story, and to see the end of the game through his eyes rather than Phelps just doesn't work for me.
4) I understand that Ira was extremely troubled and Kelso was putting him out of his misery, but why exactly did he kill him? Didn't he just finish saying that he needed Ira to make the case?
5) Disappointed I didn't get to put a bullet in Roy Earl, or watch him go down as a co-conspirator.
6) Disappointed I didn't get to bring down Mickey Cohen's organization.
Kelso as a PI in Chicago/New York.
Case evaluation are based on how well you fulfilled your employeer's requests.
Each case should be completely logical and solvable in and of itself.
Investigation should involve actual investgiation, not just being shuffled between destiantions. There should be multiple avenues of investigation to solve the case.
I've been avoiding this thread like the plague until I finished it. Now that I'm done, here are a few thoughts:
1) Jack Kelso was a much more sympathetic character than Phelps. Phelps always came off as a self-righteous prick. Kelso seems more like just a normal guy trying to do the right thing.
2) The Kelso bits were awesome. I wished I got to play more as him. At first when the character switch happened I was like "bwah?" but then I realized how much fun I was having.
3) The way the ending was presented felt like a rip-off to me. This was Phelps' case, and I felt like I should've been controlling him down in the sewers, not Kelso. Don't get me wrong, I loved playing as Kelso, but thise was not Kelso's story, and to see the end of the game through his eyes rather than Phelps just doesn't work for me.
4) I understand that Ira was extremely troubled and Kelso was putting him out of his misery, but why exactly did he kill him? Didn't he just finish saying that he needed Ira to make the case?
5) Disappointed I didn't get to put a bullet in Roy Earl, or watch him go down as a co-conspirator.
6) Disappointed I didn't get to bring down Mickey Cohen's organization.
7) Rusty is the best partner ever.
1) Agreed. Phelps is trying to hard to be the good guy. I like him for trying once you understand his background. Kelso is real. He is also more emotionally developed. He knows right and wrong, the same as Phelps, but he also knows the practicality of it all.
2)Same again. It was jarring, especially when they would bounce back and forth. I love the new slant. Investigator for the DA? Awesome. They could have a whole desk on him trying to clean up the city with the DA.
3)I was hoping that I'd get to play Phelps as well as Kelso, maybe see eachother cross paths or something. Maybe get a bit of a reveal on something or a flashback. I knew Phelps would die since it was shaping up to be a real Noire story. I was hoping they'd give a little more on him before he met his fate.
4)Phelps needed Ira for the case. It was the only way this all would be straightened out. To do so, Ira would be put on the stand and to do so would be using him the same as Phelps used him during the war.
Kelso decided that enough is enough. Ira had been through hell and just wanted it to end. Kelso knew he lost the case with it, but he'd rather do that than put that poor soul through anything more. Phelps seems to agree in part since he turns and runs with Elsa.
5 and 6) Cohen is a real guy and he died in the 1970s. You can't kill him, but itd been nice to hurt his organization. Unfortunately, this is Noire. The good guys don't win (at least fully). Its like real life. You thank the stars for the partial victory and move on as best you can. Roy Earle is a total bastard and deserves to burn same as all those other guys on stage at Phelps funeral. Maybe an addon will let you, but a true Noire story ends with lots of bad guys and bastards getting away.
7)Dude yes.
Sorry for the book length post.
This game was really good. Rockstar and their partners seem to be master developers.
Also, a sequel could be in Las Vegas. Bugsey Siegel (a friend of and idol of Mickey Cohem) started it up. There was some drama about all of it to in the late 40s and into the 50s. Also Siegel was gunned down there in 1947. It could take place at the same time as this stuff. Could be fun. Hell, Cohen's mansion was blown up and he also tried to hunt down the assassin's of Siegel himself.
Man, that whole time frame is full of awesome stuff to tap into. Use the historical stuff to set the stage, then take it into back allies or the streets. It'd be awesome!
There are a few different types of street crime. About 80% involve you shooting everyone. There are a few car chases followed by arresting the culprit, a few brawling strret crimes were you arrest the culpirt, a few foot chases were you arrest the guy and I've seen at least one that can be solved by a warning shot. Nearly all are just shooting everyone though.
Anyone know of a good vechile list/rough locations for this game? I'm currently at 86/95 and I've never seen a police van around, have a bunch of samey looking sports and 2 door cars left and a couple of service I just can't find.
Doesn't a police van show up next to one of the crime scenes?
All those 1940s cars start running together in my mind. Tough to tell if I've already gotten a particular one.
I was of the opinion that we don't really see much about his marriage falling apart because it didn't. Instead, Phelps went to Elsa's apartment to talk, because he felt she could understand what he went through in the war, and had worked out he really needed to talk about it. Then it just kinda happened that they ended up together.
Sure, it sounds a bit silly, but we don't really know what the cutscenes in the club are about. Phelps could of just really liked her performance for all we know. Until (if) we get the stuff that had to be cut, we have no real way of knowing. Annoying? Yes, but hardly the worst crime of the game. The somewhat slap-dash ending is more of an issue, I think.
People are neglecting the best part about (late game leaving Vice)
about the whole affair.
THe game has you following her back to her house for a late-night visit. You drive it thinking that it is for the case, to get a little deeper, but you discover that Phelps is doing it to have sex with her (probably not the first based on later dialogue). Most people that believe in monogamy and know Phelps is married, it is an uncomfortable realization.
That was some smart stuff. Even later, I almost felt like I was justifying him when really, there is no excuse.
People are neglecting the best part about (late game leaving Vice)
about the whole affair.
THe game has you following her back to her house for a late-night visit. You drive it thinking that it is for the case, to get a little deeper, but you discover that Phelps is doing it to have sex with her (probably not the first based on later dialogue). Most people that believe in monogamy and know Phelps is married, it is an uncomfortable realization.
That was some smart stuff. Even later, I almost felt like I was justifying him when really, there is no excuse.
I dunno, I pretty much turned on him immediately. "Oh great, he's not only a humorless jerk, he's cheating on his wife too."
When it first happened, like you say, I assumed it was something about the case, and would just be misconstrued and used against him. But... nope! He just straight up has an affair out of nowhere. And NO the few visits to see her sing are not enough to establish that he's about to sleep with her. And it isn't even really explained or explored after the fact either. It felt to me like an excuse for him to have a fall from grace so they could set up the ending.
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Man, why does everyone hate Phelps so much
He's a bit of a straight arrow, sure, but to claim he doesn't have a sense of humor is crazy
But I guess most people never got the car dialogues since they skipped all the driving
I just fucked up my first case. I have been a four star detective right across the board up until the Golden Butterfly where I get one star - "Unbecoming" and I have no fucking idea how it happened.
Did anyone else have a problem with this case?
I charged the guy from Heroes with the murder of his wife. The tire iron was from his car ..... but apparently that's not good enough. Fuck.
He's a bit of a straight arrow, sure, but to claim he doesn't have a sense of humor is crazy
But I guess most people never got the car dialogues since they skipped all the driving
You still get the car dialogue if your partner drives. The dialogue plays just the same and then the remainder of the drive is skipped.
But yeah, Phelps is no comedian, but he certainly has a darker, drier wit about him.
Yeah, I was about to say. My first concern with skipping was skipping the dialogue too, but it doesn't skip forward until after Phelps and friends dispense their lines.
I just fucked up my first case. I have been a four star detective right across the board up until the Golden Butterfly where I get one star - "Unbecoming" and I have no fucking idea how it happened.
Did anyone else have a problem with this case?
I charged the guy from Heroes with the murder of his wife. The tire iron was from his car ..... but apparently that's not good enough. Fuck.
I don't remember the correct solution to that case, but the good news for you is that you can replay any case from the main menu and try again.
I'm getting tired of people insinuating that if you don't like the overarching story or the ending, you just don't like film noir. Some critical parts of the story were mishandled, and it's not because of the ultimate outcomes, it's how they reach those outcomes that is infuriating.
I'm getting tired of people insinuating that if you don't like the overarching story or the ending, you just don't like film noir. Some critical parts of the story were mishandled, and it's not because of the ultimate outcomes, it's how they reach those outcomes that is infuriating.
I'm not insinuating anything. And while I felt that parts of the story were weak, I felt that neither the
affair nor the death/funeral
were in fact those parts. Could they have done more to set them up? Sure. But there's only so much disk space to go around.
If anything I kind of felt like the
end of Vice was telegraphed. So much so that I expected a twist to flesh it out more, but that never came. Or a twist followed by a second twist that led back to the story we got.
If anything I think they should have spent just a little more time on
Lots of people dislike lots of stories. There's a whole community of fanfic authors out there for a reason.
You'll have to pass a pretty high bar if you want to successfully argue that the plot of the game -- the sequence of events -- was objectively bad. That's more than just having an opinion -- that's persuasively arguing your opinion in an attempt to influence others. That's harder to do and requires more effort.
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Lots of people dislike lots of stories. There's a whole community of fanfic authors out there for a reason.
You'll have to pass a pretty high bar if you want to successfully argue that the plot of the game -- the sequence of events -- was objectively bad. That's more than just having an opinion -- that's persuasively arguing your opinion in an attempt to influence others. That's harder to do and requires more effort.
I'd argue there's a fanfic community out there because people like stories (and erotica derived from them), but... yes. I dislike L.A. Noire's story, but I'm not trying to argue it's objectively bad, just that my dislike has nothing to do with it's genre.
edit: And Zed, I didn't really mean to single you out. You were just the latest to mention "Well, I also like noir, so-". I'm sorry.
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Anyone know of a good vechile list/rough locations for this game? I'm currently at 86/95 and I've never seen a police van around, have a bunch of samey looking sports and 2 door cars left and a couple of service I just can't find.
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He points out the problems pretty well, but completely misses what Noire is all about. He also missed how the ratings are approval from your department and NOT an objective judgement about the quality of your work/accuracy of your charging.
Not his best since he seems to think that the inspiration and concepts taken from LA Confidential is some sort of bad thing.
If that's the case, it seems fairly likely that it will be eventually released to everyone as a paid DLC. Though I wonder if that would include 360 users or not.
There's a reason why there was no prison overcrowding in the 1940s. ;p
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They tried to bury us. They didn't know that we were seeds. 2018 Midterms. Get your shit together.
the one thing though is you may have to restart the game after downloading it from the ingame marketplace. some of the stuff showed up as "Owned-Installed" right away, but the cases didn't for me even though I downloaded them.
I'll go do that after I finish this case.
They tried to bury us. They didn't know that we were seeds. 2018 Midterms. Get your shit together.
Once you have the pass, it unlocks the DLC as if you own it. You still have to go to the marketplace at the title menu to download the cases individually.
I didn't own any DLC previously, but likely it wouldn't make a difference
Also make sure you do it in the game. If you download the content through the normal marketplace you will buy the content. They also stress that.
I basically realized that if you pre-ordered, no matter where it was, it makes the most sense to buy the pass. 3 cases will be $12, so even if you pre-ordered somewhere where you already got one of the 4 cases in the pass, it makes more sense to get the pass.
If you just got a suit for pre-ordering, now you get the cases at a discount.
If you didn't pre-order, you get everything for the same exact price that all of us who pre-ordered did (since buying the pass essentially negates your pre-order bonus, as you would have gotten it anyway).
Essentially Rockstar is getting $10 from everyone as opposed to a couple bucks here and there. They also issued a giant fuck you to pre-order bonuses. I love it.
Phelps is basically Judge Dredd. It's like, "Base, I need an ambulance here, suspects are all code four." "Good work Phelps, what happened?" "I think this one guy might have stolen someone's shoes. I shot him in the back of the head."
I also was working on one case, and had figured out that one suspect was innocent before I went to see him. So I guess the game wasn't interactive enough to know I had solved the mystery, because when I got to the guy it was a big thing and Phelps was all, "You're going to jail, you evil fucker!" and threw him in the paddy wagon. But Phelps knew the guy was innocent so I guess he's just a sadist.
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Disappoint.
Nope, apparently he really did just walk in and bang her. Okie dokie then.
Yeah, exactly.
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2) The Kelso bits were awesome. I wished I got to play more as him. At first when the character switch happened I was like "bwah?" but then I realized how much fun I was having.
3) The way the ending was presented felt like a rip-off to me. This was Phelps' case, and I felt like I should've been controlling him down in the sewers, not Kelso. Don't get me wrong, I loved playing as Kelso, but thise was not Kelso's story, and to see the end of the game through his eyes rather than Phelps just doesn't work for me.
4) I understand that Ira was extremely troubled and Kelso was putting him out of his misery, but why exactly did he kill him? Didn't he just finish saying that he needed Ira to make the case?
5) Disappointed I didn't get to put a bullet in Roy Earl, or watch him go down as a co-conspirator.
6) Disappointed I didn't get to bring down Mickey Cohen's organization.
7) Rusty is the best partner ever.
Kelso as a PI in Chicago/New York.
Case evaluation are based on how well you fulfilled your employeer's requests.
Each case should be completely logical and solvable in and of itself.
Investigation should involve actual investgiation, not just being shuffled between destiantions. There should be multiple avenues of investigation to solve the case.
2)Same again. It was jarring, especially when they would bounce back and forth. I love the new slant. Investigator for the DA? Awesome. They could have a whole desk on him trying to clean up the city with the DA.
3)I was hoping that I'd get to play Phelps as well as Kelso, maybe see eachother cross paths or something. Maybe get a bit of a reveal on something or a flashback. I knew Phelps would die since it was shaping up to be a real Noire story. I was hoping they'd give a little more on him before he met his fate.
4)Phelps needed Ira for the case. It was the only way this all would be straightened out. To do so, Ira would be put on the stand and to do so would be using him the same as Phelps used him during the war.
Kelso decided that enough is enough. Ira had been through hell and just wanted it to end. Kelso knew he lost the case with it, but he'd rather do that than put that poor soul through anything more. Phelps seems to agree in part since he turns and runs with Elsa.
5 and 6) Cohen is a real guy and he died in the 1970s. You can't kill him, but itd been nice to hurt his organization. Unfortunately, this is Noire. The good guys don't win (at least fully). Its like real life. You thank the stars for the partial victory and move on as best you can. Roy Earle is a total bastard and deserves to burn same as all those other guys on stage at Phelps funeral. Maybe an addon will let you, but a true Noire story ends with lots of bad guys and bastards getting away.
7)Dude yes.
This game was really good. Rockstar and their partners seem to be master developers.
Also, a sequel could be in Las Vegas. Bugsey Siegel (a friend of and idol of Mickey Cohem) started it up. There was some drama about all of it to in the late 40s and into the 50s. Also Siegel was gunned down there in 1947. It could take place at the same time as this stuff. Could be fun. Hell, Cohen's mansion was blown up and he also tried to hunt down the assassin's of Siegel himself.
Man, that whole time frame is full of awesome stuff to tap into. Use the historical stuff to set the stage, then take it into back allies or the streets. It'd be awesome!
Doesn't a police van show up next to one of the crime scenes?
All those 1940s cars start running together in my mind. Tough to tell if I've already gotten a particular one.
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Sure, it sounds a bit silly, but we don't really know what the cutscenes in the club are about. Phelps could of just really liked her performance for all we know. Until (if) we get the stuff that had to be cut, we have no real way of knowing. Annoying? Yes, but hardly the worst crime of the game. The somewhat slap-dash ending is more of an issue, I think.
THe game has you following her back to her house for a late-night visit. You drive it thinking that it is for the case, to get a little deeper, but you discover that Phelps is doing it to have sex with her (probably not the first based on later dialogue). Most people that believe in monogamy and know Phelps is married, it is an uncomfortable realization.
That was some smart stuff. Even later, I almost felt like I was justifying him when really, there is no excuse.
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Comparing him to a character in The Wire:
Now on to Arson!
When it first happened, like you say, I assumed it was something about the case, and would just be misconstrued and used against him. But... nope! He just straight up has an affair out of nowhere. And NO the few visits to see her sing are not enough to establish that he's about to sleep with her. And it isn't even really explained or explored after the fact either. It felt to me like an excuse for him to have a fall from grace so they could set up the ending.
He's a bit of a straight arrow, sure, but to claim he doesn't have a sense of humor is crazy
But I guess most people never got the car dialogues since they skipped all the driving
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Did anyone else have a problem with this case?
You still get the car dialogue if your partner drives. The dialogue plays just the same and then the remainder of the drive is skipped.
But yeah, Phelps is no comedian, but he certainly has a darker, drier wit about him.
Then again, I like Noire.
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Yeah, I was about to say. My first concern with skipping was skipping the dialogue too, but it doesn't skip forward until after Phelps and friends dispense their lines.
I don't remember the correct solution to that case, but the good news for you is that you can replay any case from the main menu and try again.
Enough to add an "e" to the end.
I'm getting tired of people insinuating that if you don't like the overarching story or the ending, you just don't like film noir. Some critical parts of the story were mishandled, and it's not because of the ultimate outcomes, it's how they reach those outcomes that is infuriating.
If anything I kind of felt like the
If anything I think they should have spent just a little more time on
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You'll have to pass a pretty high bar if you want to successfully argue that the plot of the game -- the sequence of events -- was objectively bad. That's more than just having an opinion -- that's persuasively arguing your opinion in an attempt to influence others. That's harder to do and requires more effort.
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I'd argue there's a fanfic community out there because people like stories (and erotica derived from them), but... yes. I dislike L.A. Noire's story, but I'm not trying to argue it's objectively bad, just that my dislike has nothing to do with it's genre.
edit: And Zed, I didn't really mean to single you out. You were just the latest to mention "Well, I also like noir, so-". I'm sorry.