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Primary 2012: Romney Wins Debate By Saying Nothing, Having Nice Hair

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  • AmphetamineAmphetamine Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    Cervetus wrote: »
    Just started the debate now. I always get a kick out of politicians saying they aren't politicians. "I am currently engaged in the political process so that I can hold a political office! How not-politician is that?!"

    I fucking love that hypocrisy.

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  • Robos A Go GoRobos A Go Go Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    Cervetus wrote: »
    Just started the debate now. I always get a kick out of politicians saying they aren't politicians. "I am currently engaged in the political process so that I can hold a political office! How not-politician is that?!"

    "I'm a problem-solver," is the sort of vague, gravid statement that you'd expect from an arsonist or hit-man.

  • ElJeffeElJeffe Super Moderator, Moderator, ClubPA mod
    edited June 2011
    MKR wrote: »
    DoctorArch wrote: »
    Dynagrip wrote: »
    KalTorak wrote: »
    One of the complaints I hear a lot about Kerry is that he ran on "I'm not Bush!" and not much else. And it seems like all these candidates are running on "I'm not Obama," plus crazy. I may be wrong but I remember Bush being less popular in 2004 than Obama at the moment; I don't think that strategy is going to work any better this time around.
    well, the republicans can also appeal to racism this time around, which helps them out in horribly biggoted and backwater areas such as the pacific northwest.

    What the hell? o_O

    I've heard wild stories of racism and bigotry outside the big cities.

    Well, the I5 corridor is a pretty notorious hotbed of KKK activity, but it's not like we're tripping over racists every time we turn the corner over here.

    Pretty much anything not on the coast ranges from rather conservative to HolyFuckAlabama. Probably 90% of California, Oregon, and Washington are conservative, geographically speaking. It's just that none of these places are population centers.

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  • CervetusCervetus Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    Well when a candidate says that they really are suggesting that they're a hit-man out to kill the government.

    The libertarian response to anything is, "Sure, that works fine in practice, but it doesn't fly in theory."
  • Robos A Go GoRobos A Go Go Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    Cervetus wrote: »
    Well when a candidate says that they really are suggesting that they're a hit-man out to kill the government.

    Take out an insurance policy, then make it look like the government burned down in an electrical fire.

  • The Muffin ManThe Muffin Man Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    Cervetus wrote: »
    Well when a candidate says that they really are suggesting that they're a hit-man out to kill the government.

    Take out an insurance policy, then make it look like the government burned down in an electrical fire.

    Then cash your policy in for gold.

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  • AlegisAlegis Impeckable Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    and out of the billowing smoke emeeeerrrged ...


    gingrich

  • AngelHedgieAngelHedgie Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    Cervetus wrote: »
    Well when a candidate says that they really are suggesting that they're a hit-man out to kill the government.

    Take out an insurance policy, then make it look like the government drowned in the tub.

    FTFY

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  • DevoutlyApatheticDevoutlyApathetic I've Done Worse Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    Gaddez wrote: »
    Lawndart wrote: »
    Speaking of women voters, I suspect that Bachmann's really obvious repeated mentions of her 5 children and 23 foster kids was an attempt to soften up her image with the female voters who have soured on Palin.

    I refuse to belive that bachmann is actually raising 28 children in her home. Maybe if she was a 60 year old social worker and talking about the entiretry of her career I could buy it, but 23 foster children sounds more like 12 year old boys bragging about how big their dicks are.

    Foster kids aren't adopted children. She took in kids (presumably) that the state had taken custody of. That isn't typically a lifetime of caring for the child but a short to medium term thing. It can certainly be more but it isn't automatic or something.

    23 over a long period of time, a couple of them at a time is entirely possible/reasonable/whatever.

  • SpacklerSpackler Registered User
    edited June 2011
    w.r.t. Gingrich and loyalty oaths:
    I think he was trying to say that loyalty oaths are ineffective/silly, and that he would screen people* working for his administration closely instead.

    * muslims**
    ** people with funny names***
    *** brown people

    I'm hoping what he meant is that "closely" = not at all different than today, but you racist geese listening at home will think I meant "waterboard"

  • CommunistCowCommunistCow Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    How come Ron Paul's the only Republican with supporters who know how to use the internet? They're the only Republicans I ever see in comments sections.

    His ideas seem to appeal to the younger generation more than the older generation. As we know the youngin's use the internet more often.

    I'm amazed that pro-Ron Paul posts like the one below get upvoted to the main page over on reddit. At least some of the comments are not insane.
    Spoiler:

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  • CommunistCowCommunistCow Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    Alegis wrote: »
    and out of the billowing smoke emeeeerrrged ...


    gingrich

    Just in case someone doesn't got the reference:
    John Lithgow reading Gingrich's presidential announcement speech on the Colber Repor.

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  • ToxTox I kill threads Pharezon's human garbage heapRegistered User regular
    edited June 2011
    How come Ron Paul's the only Republican with supporters who know how to use the internet? They're the only Republicans I ever see in comments sections.

    His ideas seem to appeal to the younger generation more than the older generation. As we know the youngin's use the internet more often.

    I'm amazed that pro-Ron Paul posts like the one below get upvoted to the main page over on reddit. At least some of the comments are not insane.
    Spoiler:

    Growbalowbalowwww!

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  • AbsalonAbsalon Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    Ron Paul is not even a person. He's not really supposed to exist in this day and age. I guess it is not surprising that they need a messiah, but it just feels... Wrong. He's just a generic extremist who, like all prominent libertarians I know of, seems a lot less outraged over the idea of destroying women's or gay people's freedoms than about companies being denied the "right" to destroy commons or pay insignificant taxes.

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  • ATIRageATIRage Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    It's great that the candidates think they are protecting the Constitution, but their grasp of constitutional law is always sketchy at best. It could be that they fail to grasp the subtle nuances of the Constitution, but last night it just seemed like they had no ability to engage the subject matter with any depth.

  • ronyaronya Arrrrrrf. the ivory tower's basementRegistered User regular
    edited June 2011
    Alegis wrote: »
    and out of the billowing smoke emeeeerrrged ...


    gingrich

    Just in case someone doesn't got the reference:
    John Lithgow reading Gingrich's presidential announcement speech on the Colber Repor.
    Spoiler:

    Steam
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  • TaramoorTaramoor Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    Bachmann has announced she won't seek re-election in Minnesota.

    There's a silver lining to all this, people!

  • CantidoCantido Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    Tox wrote: »
    How come Ron Paul's the only Republican with supporters who know how to use the internet? They're the only Republicans I ever see in comments sections.

    His ideas seem to appeal to the younger generation more than the older generation. As we know the youngin's use the internet more often.

    I'm amazed that pro-Ron Paul posts like the one below get upvoted to the main page over on reddit. At least some of the comments are not insane.
    Spoiler:

    Growbalowbalowwww!

    KILLKILLKILL

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  • TheBlackWindTheBlackWind Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    Has Paul even signed on a campaign staff or is he just there to sell books?

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  • PreacherPreacher Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    Has Paul even signed on a campaign staff or is he just there to sell books?

    "If I ran for President By Oj Paul."

  • ToxTox I kill threads Pharezon's human garbage heapRegistered User regular
    edited June 2011
    Taramoor wrote: »
    Bachmann has announced she won't seek re-election in Minnesota.

    There's a silver lining to all this, people!

    Wasn't she supposed to lose her seat because of the census anyway?

    Besides, after she drops out of the Primary, she can run for Senate against Klobuchar.

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  • DracomicronDracomicron Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    Tox wrote: »
    Taramoor wrote: »
    Bachmann has announced she won't seek re-election in Minnesota.

    There's a silver lining to all this, people!

    Wasn't she supposed to lose her seat because of the census anyway?

    Besides, after she drops out of the Primary, she can run for Senate against Klobuchar.

    Amy Klobuchar is a good senator. The first time I voted for her was when she was going for Hennepin County Attorney. She didn't have a party designation, but I thought her last name sounded cool (like you could put a badass epithet on it... Klobuchar the Reaver), so I voted for her. Surprise surprise, she ended up being really good.

    There are very few politicians that I will go to the mat for, but Amy is one of them. If Bachmann runs against her, I will pound pavement on Klobuchar's behalf.

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  • SyrdonSyrdon Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    Absalon wrote: »
    Ron Paul is not even a person. He's not really supposed to exist in this day and age. I guess it is not surprising that they need a messiah, but it just feels... Wrong. He's just a generic extremist who, like all prominent libertarians I know of, seems a lot less outraged over the idea of destroying women's or gay people's freedoms than about companies being denied the "right" to destroy commons or pay insignificant taxes.
    I suspect that has more to do with the ones that lean towards the GOP line getting more press time than the more reasonable ones (you can substitute "the ones that need GOP funding" in there too). A better test is going to be voting records.

  • mcpmcp Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    I think my favorite part of the debate was Mittens' WTF face at Ron Paul.

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  • jackisrealjackisreal Registered User
    edited June 2011
    To me, it seemed like he was doing that any time another candidate was speaking. Tryin' to take em down a notch with his Romney Gaze.

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  • ToxTox I kill threads Pharezon's human garbage heapRegistered User regular
    edited June 2011
    jackisreal wrote: »
    To me, it seemed like he was doing that any time another candidate was speaking. Tryin' to take em down a notch with his Romney [strike]Gaze[/strike] Stare.

    Kind of like a CareBear.

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  • BullioBullio Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    Absalon wrote: »
    Ron Paul is not even a person. He's not really supposed to exist in this day and age. I guess it is not surprising that they need a messiah, but it just feels... Wrong. He's just a generic extremist who, like all prominent libertarians I know of, seems a lot less outraged over the idea of destroying women's or gay people's freedoms than about companies being denied the "right" to destroy commons or pay insignificant taxes.

    Libertarianism is such a strange phenomenon. It sounds good on paper, and I still like some of it in theory, but actual libertarians are some of the craziest and most evil people I've ever heard talk. The disconnect between theory and execution is just mind boggling. It's like understanding Jesus to be a hippy and then listening to Christian fundamentalists invoking his name while advocating killing gay people.

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  • Void SlayerVoid Slayer Very Suspicious Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    Bullio wrote: »
    Absalon wrote: »
    Ron Paul is not even a person. He's not really supposed to exist in this day and age. I guess it is not surprising that they need a messiah, but it just feels... Wrong. He's just a generic extremist who, like all prominent libertarians I know of, seems a lot less outraged over the idea of destroying women's or gay people's freedoms than about companies being denied the "right" to destroy commons or pay insignificant taxes.

    Libertarianism is such a strange phenomenon. It sounds good on paper, and I still like some of it in theory, but actual libertarians are some of the craziest and most evil people I've ever heard talk. The disconnect between theory and execution is just mind boggling. It's like understanding Jesus to be a hippy and then listening to Christian fundamentalists invoking his name while advocating killing gay people.

    That is because that philosophy is really easy to take advantage of to make people lots of money. It's also more then halfway to anarchism.

    Libertarianism grew up alongside many of the social reforms that make life tolerable and is directly opposed to them.

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  • ToxTox I kill threads Pharezon's human garbage heapRegistered User regular
    edited June 2011
    Actually, the Libertarian party here in NC is actually not that bad.

    Because every time they say shit like this:
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    They turn around and say shit like this:
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    So, they're actually fairly balanced.

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  • SchrodingerSchrodinger Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    Bullio wrote: »
    Absalon wrote: »
    Ron Paul is not even a person. He's not really supposed to exist in this day and age. I guess it is not surprising that they need a messiah, but it just feels... Wrong. He's just a generic extremist who, like all prominent libertarians I know of, seems a lot less outraged over the idea of destroying women's or gay people's freedoms than about companies being denied the "right" to destroy commons or pay insignificant taxes.

    Libertarianism is such a strange phenomenon. It sounds good on paper, and I still like some of it in theory, but actual libertarians are some of the craziest and most evil people I've ever heard talk. The disconnect between theory and execution is just mind boggling. It's like understanding Jesus to be a hippy and then listening to Christian fundamentalists invoking his name while advocating killing gay people.

    The libertarian response to anything is, "Sure, that works fine in practice, but it doesn't fly in theory."

  • SchrodingerSchrodinger Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    How come Ron Paul's the only Republican with supporters who know how to use the internet? They're the only Republicans I ever see in comments sections.

    His ideas seem to appeal to the younger generation more than the older generation. As we know the youngin's use the internet more often.

    I'm amazed that pro-Ron Paul posts like the one below get upvoted to the main page over on reddit. At least some of the comments are not insane.
    Spoiler:

    Ron Paul is hugely popular among people with social disorders.

    People with social disorders use the internet.

  • SchrodingerSchrodinger Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    ATIRage wrote: »
    It's great that the candidates think they are protecting the Constitution, but their grasp of constitutional law is always sketchy at best. It could be that they fail to grasp the subtle nuances of the Constitution, but last night it just seemed like they had no ability to engage the subject matter with any depth.

    http://www.theonion.com/articles/area-man-passionate-defender-of-what-he-imagines-c,2849/

  • JihadJesusJihadJesus Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
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    The libertarian response to anything is, "Sure, that works fine in practice, but it doesn't fly in theory."
    That is an awesome line.

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  • OptimusZedOptimusZed Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    Libertarianism suffers from the same primary problem that Communism does; it relies on reality suddenly altering itself to allow implementation. "If we just scrap this whole system and start over this could totally work." Including, of course, retraining everyone in the system as it stands to a new life philosophy that would allow them to function within the new system.

    That degree of social nihilism just doesn't pass the smell test.

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  • big lbig l Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    I can't tell whether I'm laughing or crying
    Back on the road, down the highway, and Romney arrives at another diner in the town of Derry. Same format: More jokes about the media. "I was on TV last night, and these guys keep following me!"
    He sits down briefly with Ashley DelPidio, a college student who'd just nailed down a job after putting her resume on CareerBuilder.

    "How is it for other people in your class," asks Romney.

    "Not everyone is lucky," she says.

    After Romney leaves I check in with her; she, too was impressed. "I could see myself voting for him," she says. "Obama made a lot of promises and he hasn't kept all of them." What would she want President Romney to do that Obama hasn't? "The government needs to help people more when it comes to finding jobs. I think we could use more federal aid, or a federal program for people who are unemployed."

  • JihadJesusJihadJesus Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    ATIRage wrote: »
    It's great that the candidates think they are protecting the Constitution, but their grasp of constitutional law is always sketchy at best. It could be that they fail to grasp the subtle nuances of the Constitution, but last night it just seemed like they had no ability to engage the subject matter with any depth.

    http://www.theonion.com/articles/area-man-passionate-defender-of-what-he-imagines-c,2849/

    I don't think it's that so much as that they're cynically courting the votes of people like the guy who wrote this letter to my local newspaper...
    There is a reason that God put in our Constitution a means of....
    That's as far as I can get before my brain starts leaking out my ear, but essentially this genius is arguing that because God himself inspired the beautiful ideal of small government in our Founding Fathers and guided their hands in creating a divine Constitution, and then showed his favor by protecting the country so it could be so totally great, we are bound by God to support Israel. No, seriously.

    This is the person they need to convince to vote for them. If politicians espouse idiotic opinions re: the Consitution the cynic in me says it's because they need the support of idiots.

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  • PreacherPreacher Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    big l wrote: »
    I can't tell whether I'm laughing or crying
    Back on the road, down the highway, and Romney arrives at another diner in the town of Derry. Same format: More jokes about the media. "I was on TV last night, and these guys keep following me!"
    He sits down briefly with Ashley DelPidio, a college student who'd just nailed down a job after putting her resume on CareerBuilder.

    "How is it for other people in your class," asks Romney.

    "Not everyone is lucky," she says.

    After Romney leaves I check in with her; she, too was impressed. "I could see myself voting for him," she says. "Obama made a lot of promises and he hasn't kept all of them." What would she want President Romney to do that Obama hasn't? "The government needs to help people more when it comes to finding jobs. I think we could use more federal aid, or a federal program for people who are unemployed."

    So she expects him to do something no republican at all is or will ever propose and sees thats a good enough reason to vote for him over obama. Ok I get it people in america are fucking stupid.

  • ATIRageATIRage Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    I too had my brains slip out my ears on that one. Just....wow.... I also like how the candidates conflated supreme being from the declaration of independence, as being inserted into the Constitution, which has 4 references to religion and none of them to god.

    Also that onion article is killing me. I can't stop laughing.

  • ATIRageATIRage Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    Preacher wrote: »
    big l wrote: »
    I can't tell whether I'm laughing or crying
    Back on the road, down the highway, and Romney arrives at another diner in the town of Derry. Same format: More jokes about the media. "I was on TV last night, and these guys keep following me!"
    He sits down briefly with Ashley DelPidio, a college student who'd just nailed down a job after putting her resume on CareerBuilder.

    "How is it for other people in your class," asks Romney.

    "Not everyone is lucky," she says.

    After Romney leaves I check in with her; she, too was impressed. "I could see myself voting for him," she says. "Obama made a lot of promises and he hasn't kept all of them." What would she want President Romney to do that Obama hasn't? "The government needs to help people more when it comes to finding jobs. I think we could use more federal aid, or a federal program for people who are unemployed."

    So she expects him to do something no republican at all is or will ever propose and sees thats a good enough reason to vote for him over obama. Ok I get it people in america are fucking stupid.

    Hate to say it, but she seems to misunderstand a fundamental point of difference between Republicans and Democrats.

    Democrats = Federal Government to fix things
    Republicans = State governments to fix things

    I would also point out that, Obama did in fact create several programs to help people like her get jobs. But hey, Romney sat down next to her for a couple seconds so, I guess he's the right guy to vote for.

  • CouscousCouscous Registered User regular
    edited June 2011
    Except state republicans are against the exact same shit that federal republicans are against except on a state level.

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