Well, I'll tell you guys the same thing I told infidel. I'm Elizabeth II (Queen of England) I'm a villager, and voting me out tonight guarantees a mafia victory.
Langly
Langly was a suspicion of Infidel's earlier in the game, and I doubt that suspicion went away. Second, people who voiced suspicion against him died after voicing it the 4th day. Lastly, I wouldn't be surprised if the mafia was trying to push a vote on Zellpher (who is pretty obviously Han Solo) early in the day yesterday before Infidel came in. Once infidel came in and went against that... its no surprise to switch over as fast as possible to get rid of suspicions. 3rd out of 7 really isn't that fast anymore.
No they didn't? Of the day 4 kills, only one even mentioned me (Bale, who is always up for voting for me because he is a jerk). Spoit put up the initial, and loudest, vote against me, and he magically lived through two rounds of mafia kills.
Of the others who mentioned me, Infidel was ambivalent on Day four, then fingered Tayrun on day five, and the other, Peccavi, also lived.
On the other hand, both you and Zandracon voted for me the first day.
If you're a villager and the mafia only gets one kill tonight, then the game could potentially go on for one more night. Unless you're actually Ringo, but at this point claiming to be Ringo wouldn't be very convincing.
Anywho, I need to go to sleep at a reasonable time for once, so I'll see the results tomorrow morning (or earlier if I have trouble falling asleep and decide to check the forums on my phone). My decision's been made.
They found him, they did. They stormed his castle fortress, they did not take him prisoner. He was dead within 10 minutes of the first breach. He barely put up a fight, even, which the assault team thought was weird. The assault team didn't know if they'd be able to handle the job.
Turns out, they were too late anyway.
Traveling electronically at speeds human minds can scarcely comprehend, the command came from Darian, clear as a bell. It traveled through many countries and locales before finally landing in California, where it rested in the inbox of the late MrBlarney, copied to the Canadian residence of Infidel.
It was a single private message, delivered on the forums. It had a simple subject, and read, even more simply: "I'll kill Ringo tonight."
Because, boys and girls, you see, that's just not how this world works. I wish this story could have the happy ending we all wanted. I wish I could say that the combined efforts of the United Nations and our favorite science fiction and fantasy heroes, and necromancers capable of resurrecting dead world leaders, could have saved him.
But this was not the story about how Ringo was saved.
This was the story of The Phalla Where Alegis Had Ringo Killed By Darian.
fin
Kuhlmeye - Darian (Killed Ringo At Alegis' Behest) - MAFIA - Lynched by world leaders Langly - Pervez Musharraf (Exiled General of Pakistan) - VILLAGER - Alegis had him killed by Darian Zellpher - Han Solo (Rebel Smuggler) - VILLAGER - Alegis had him killed by Darian Ringo - Ringo (Ringo) - RINGO - Alegis got Ringo killed by Darian
VILLAGE VICTORY!
Rend on
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BaidolI will hold him offEscape while you canRegistered Userregular
Watch out though, it's a whole lot of me talking to myself. We had 2 kills the entire game. The first night we managed to hit both the bus driver and the guard. Two nights ago peccavi was guarded. Who was the guard?
Careful analysis led me to suspecting Tayrun in most scenarios. (X and Y are the mafia, Y and Z are the mafia, etc.) Spoit and I decided to go for him and then kuhlmeye, and to guard a villager to confirm that villager just in case, allowing them to kill either of us (which isn't a big deal since saving one of us doesn't provide new info, but saving an unconfirmed villager does). That explains I think the missing kill, so basically it went exactly as I foresaw.
I would say you don't need to reveal to infidel now, tay. You weren't in the radar yesterday, and I don't think that will change today.
This is why I put suspicion off you for a bit kuhlmeye, you were the only one to submit a role claim and I knew there was two mafia still, and I mentioned how it is unlikely for a mafia to be split on claims unless they're inactive. Which led me to a lot of weird analysis, and I eventually settled on ignoring that guideline. It actually put you in a good light that Tayrun didn't claim anything, for a while.
The all-important do-or-die night discussion, I think people may find this useful to read so there it is:
[18:51] <Infidel> alright
[18:51] <Infidel> go over their posts
[18:51] <Infidel> and come back with who you think is INNOCENT
[18:51] <Spoit> I'm only going to be here for another hour though
[18:51] <Infidel> thats enough time
[18:51] <Infidel> there wasn't much activity :P
[18:52] <Infidel> I'm doing the same
[18:52] <Spoit> yup
[18:52] <Spoit> what about the guard
[18:52] <Infidel> they might go for me with the driver having died
[18:53] <Infidel> its a crapshoot
[18:53] <Infidel> they are going for less obvious targets than you would expect though
[18:53] <Infidel> so its almost tempting to protect a random villager we suspect
[19:01] <Spoit> so yeah, just skimming them, I'm getting the least suspicous vibes from zellpher, but then again, there's not much to go on
[19:03] <Spoit> also, posted them all in the board
[19:06] <Spoit> hmm
[19:06] <Spoit> I wonder about langly's day 2 vote for me
[19:07] <Spoit> Also, I still have the spreadsheet if that would help
[19:07] <Spoit> https://spreadsheets.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=tyrGN-M1ydzLY53OeOoftfw&authkey=CK_AgLIB#gid=1
[19:12] <Infidel> I feel like Tayrun is the best bet combination for hitting a mafia AND giving more insight into the final
[19:12] <Spoit> ok
[19:13] <Spoit> and guard you?
[19:13] <Spoit> or a random villager
[19:13] <Infidel> I leave it to you!
[19:13] <Infidel> I spend so much effort on phallas that for a basic game like this where people are being inactive and allowed to get away with it
[19:14] <Infidel> I don't want to invest all my time nor take over everyones actions
[19:14] <Infidel> :P
[19:14] <Spoit> yeah, I'm not sure I agree with some of the ways that rend is running this
[19:14] <Infidel> and know what
[19:14] <Infidel> I didn't even see that Tayrun had posted
[19:14] <Infidel> that cements it for me
[19:14] <Infidel> yay delaying!
[19:16] <Spoit> yeah, given their MO for the past couple days, I feel like gambling on a random villager
[19:16] <Infidel> it also can confirm someone if a kill is blocked
[19:16] <Spoit> probably not zellpher, because they might keep him around as a vote target
[19:16] <Infidel> since one of us at least will survive
[19:16] <Spoit> not necessarily
[19:16] <Infidel> if you block a kill
[19:16] <Infidel> yes, necessarily
[19:16] <Spoit> if I protect a random villager?
[19:17] <Spoit> and they target you and me
[19:17] <Infidel> if we both die then you didn't block a kill, did you
[19:17] <Infidel> :P
[19:17] <Spoit> oh
[19:17] <Infidel> saving one of us doesn't answer any questions
[19:17] <Infidel> saving a villager will be game ending for the mafia
[19:17] <Infidel> that is unconfirmed atm
[19:17] <Infidel> so guard a villager
[19:18] <Infidel> if they gun for us, it doesn't really matter if one of us is saved that much
[19:18] <Infidel> and I kinda doubt they'll gun for us both
[19:18] <Infidel> but hey
[19:18] <Spoit> well okay, so if they get both of us, but we get a mafia
[19:18] <Spoit> that'll be 3 v 1
[19:19] <Spoit> I'm not convinced that they'll aim for either langly or zellpher, if neither are mafia
[19:19] <Spoit> since both are good vote targets
[19:20] <Infidel> guard peccavi
[19:20] <Spoit> okay
[19:20] <Infidel> if he lives and isn't blocked
[19:20] <Infidel> it's probably him
[19:21] <Spoit> are you going leave a message as a safeguard in case both of us are killed to that effect?
[19:22] <Infidel> I think we should, I think
[19:22] <Infidel> we hit a mafia tonight: we have to assume there is 1, we lay out our cards and vote him out
[19:22] <Infidel> nothing to really lose since we make the right call or don't
[19:22] <Spoit> I'm not going to be back until after 9
[19:22] <Infidel> if we miss, it doesn't matter
[19:23] <Spoit> if we miss, the game's over tonight
[19:23] <Infidel> that's what I said!
[19:27] <Spoit> hmm
[19:27] <Spoit> langly's vote switch was pretty sudden
[19:28] <Spoit> may be reading too much into it, but if they knew that 'alegis' first kill was blocked, they'd know the guard was still in the game
[19:30] <Infidel> if Tayrun is evil, then Kuhlmeye has to be his partner
[19:30] <Infidel> because he wouldn't have put Zellpher in the lead
[19:30] <Infidel> and the other two are rolling on him quickly
[19:31] <Infidel> unless it's a gambit and one of those two switchers is his ally, hoping to win tomorrow by proving themselves today
[19:31] <Infidel> it was a very strong call
[19:31] <Infidel> so they might be trying to win tomorrow by giving up one today
[19:33] <Spoit> are they experienced enough for that?
[19:33] <Spoit> I doubt langly is
[19:34] <Infidel> it's a pretty quick decision as well
[19:35] <Infidel> both of them mafia? unlikely since peccavi voted for langly first vote of today
[19:35] <Infidel> so if langly is the mafia, and he voted zellpher
[19:35] <Infidel> that makes kuhlmeye mafia
[19:36] <Infidel> peccavi casting a first stone and following my call is consistent with a villager okay
[19:36] <Infidel> nothing contrary about it
[19:36] <Infidel> interesting
[19:36] <Infidel> kuhlmeye keeps coming up as a possible partner
[19:37] <Infidel> he claimed a specific role
[19:37] <Infidel> I'm Elizabeth II (Queen of England). I'm a villager.
[19:37] <Infidel> that doesn't sound like one you'd lie about, or be mafia
[19:37] <Infidel> they may have cover roles though
[19:37] <Infidel> cause Alegis is a role name with no margin
[19:37] <Infidel> and that was a role
[19:38] <Infidel> he's also much more experienced
[19:38] <Infidel> thoughts?
[19:38] <Spoit> hmm
[19:38] <Spoit> did tayrun claim a role?
[19:39] <Spoit> because I remember something about how usually all the mafia do, or none of them
[19:40] <Infidel> yeah, but I'm starting to wonder hehe
[19:40] <Infidel> I hate it when it comes down to "how many times are you going to go in cycles until you stop on someone"
[19:40] <Infidel> where it becomes a coin toss and see what happens
[19:41] <Infidel> pecavvi didn't claim a role name but he chimed in as a vanilla
[19:41] <Infidel> and that he thought 38th was before we finished lynching him
[19:41] <Infidel> buying cred, unknown
[19:42] <Spoit> anyway, I'm leaving momentarily
[19:42] <Infidel> shall we try the Tayrun?
[19:43] <Spoit> hmm
[19:44] <Spoit> yeah
[19:45] <Spoit> though kuhl's late langly vote sticks out
[19:45] <Infidel> how is that?
[19:46] <Spoit> as does langly going from having trouble understanding a vig kill to pointing out how silly my vote against the zand wagon was
[19:46] <Infidel> I don't want to kill kuhl if he is actually the queen, as claimed, and it was just paranoia overthinking
[19:46] <Infidel> I'd rather lose with a less paranoid history to my name XD
[19:46] <Infidel> than lose killing him
[19:47] <Infidel> also I figure this
[19:47] <Infidel> Tayrun being evil points to kuhlmeye, I already stated
[19:47] <Spoit> okay, we'll go with tayrun
[19:47] <Infidel> so if kuhlmeye is evil, then tayrun probably is
[19:47] <Infidel> so lets just stick with tayrun?
[19:47] <Spoit> yeah
[19:47] <Infidel> I think we hit or miss on those two together
Which would be why they tried to kill Infidel day one. He's crafty and dangerous at this game, when properly motivated.
That is why I love the irony that attempting to remove me from the game caused their own to die and created an instant three-man network, putting me in touch with "Infidel" and "MrBlarney". It was rather righteous!
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Langly
Langly was a suspicion of Infidel's earlier in the game, and I doubt that suspicion went away. Second, people who voiced suspicion against him died after voicing it the 4th day. Lastly, I wouldn't be surprised if the mafia was trying to push a vote on Zellpher (who is pretty obviously Han Solo) early in the day yesterday before Infidel came in. Once infidel came in and went against that... its no surprise to switch over as fast as possible to get rid of suspicions. 3rd out of 7 really isn't that fast anymore.
Of the others who mentioned me, Infidel was ambivalent on Day four, then fingered Tayrun on day five, and the other, Peccavi, also lived.
On the other hand, both you and Zandracon voted for me the first day.
I think my eyes are getting better. Instead of a big dark blur, I see a big light blur.
2. You guys are all lame.
3. You are literally losing the game by voting for me.
That is all.
Anywho, I need to go to sleep at a reasonable time for once, so I'll see the results tomorrow morning (or earlier if I have trouble falling asleep and decide to check the forums on my phone). My decision's been made.
They found him, they did. They stormed his castle fortress, they did not take him prisoner. He was dead within 10 minutes of the first breach. He barely put up a fight, even, which the assault team thought was weird. The assault team didn't know if they'd be able to handle the job.
Turns out, they were too late anyway.
Traveling electronically at speeds human minds can scarcely comprehend, the command came from Darian, clear as a bell. It traveled through many countries and locales before finally landing in California, where it rested in the inbox of the late MrBlarney, copied to the Canadian residence of Infidel.
It was a single private message, delivered on the forums. It had a simple subject, and read, even more simply: "I'll kill Ringo tonight."
Because, boys and girls, you see, that's just not how this world works. I wish this story could have the happy ending we all wanted. I wish I could say that the combined efforts of the United Nations and our favorite science fiction and fantasy heroes, and necromancers capable of resurrecting dead world leaders, could have saved him.
But this was not the story about how Ringo was saved.
This was the story of The Phalla Where Alegis Had Ringo Killed By Darian.
fin
Kuhlmeye - Darian (Killed Ringo At Alegis' Behest) - MAFIA - Lynched by world leaders
Langly - Pervez Musharraf (Exiled General of Pakistan) - VILLAGER - Alegis had him killed by Darian
Zellpher - Han Solo (Rebel Smuggler) - VILLAGER - Alegis had him killed by Darian
Ringo - Ringo (Ringo) - RINGO - Alegis got Ringo killed by Darian
VILLAGE VICTORY!
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
"Blarnfidel" Network victory.
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It's too bad Alegis isn't here, or I might have to thank him for doing his part!
http://blarnfidel.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=general
yes that is a shame
but if you pray tonight he might hear you in heaven, where he arrived after Alegis got him killed.
Watch out though, it's a whole lot of me talking to myself. We had 2 kills the entire game. The first night we managed to hit both the bus driver and the guard. Two nights ago peccavi was guarded. Who was the guard?
Careful analysis led me to suspecting Tayrun in most scenarios. (X and Y are the mafia, Y and Z are the mafia, etc.) Spoit and I decided to go for him and then kuhlmeye, and to guard a villager to confirm that villager just in case, allowing them to kill either of us (which isn't a big deal since saving one of us doesn't provide new info, but saving an unconfirmed villager does). That explains I think the missing kill, so basically it went exactly as I foresaw.
Good game guys!
This is why I put suspicion off you for a bit kuhlmeye, you were the only one to submit a role claim and I knew there was two mafia still, and I mentioned how it is unlikely for a mafia to be split on claims unless they're inactive. Which led me to a lot of weird analysis, and I eventually settled on ignoring that guideline. It actually put you in a good light that Tayrun didn't claim anything, for a while.
[18:51] <Infidel> alright
[18:51] <Infidel> go over their posts
[18:51] <Infidel> and come back with who you think is INNOCENT
[18:51] <Spoit> I'm only going to be here for another hour though
[18:51] <Infidel> thats enough time
[18:51] <Infidel> there wasn't much activity :P
[18:52] <Infidel> I'm doing the same
[18:52] <Spoit> yup
[18:52] <Spoit> what about the guard
[18:52] <Infidel> they might go for me with the driver having died
[18:53] <Infidel> its a crapshoot
[18:53] <Infidel> they are going for less obvious targets than you would expect though
[18:53] <Infidel> so its almost tempting to protect a random villager we suspect
[19:01] <Spoit> so yeah, just skimming them, I'm getting the least suspicous vibes from zellpher, but then again, there's not much to go on
[19:03] <Spoit> also, posted them all in the board
[19:06] <Spoit> hmm
[19:06] <Spoit> I wonder about langly's day 2 vote for me
[19:07] <Spoit> Also, I still have the spreadsheet if that would help
[19:07] <Spoit> https://spreadsheets.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=tyrGN-M1ydzLY53OeOoftfw&authkey=CK_AgLIB#gid=1
[19:12] <Infidel> I feel like Tayrun is the best bet combination for hitting a mafia AND giving more insight into the final
[19:12] <Spoit> ok
[19:13] <Spoit> and guard you?
[19:13] <Spoit> or a random villager
[19:13] <Infidel> I leave it to you!
[19:13] <Infidel> I spend so much effort on phallas that for a basic game like this where people are being inactive and allowed to get away with it
[19:14] <Infidel> I don't want to invest all my time nor take over everyones actions
[19:14] <Infidel> :P
[19:14] <Spoit> yeah, I'm not sure I agree with some of the ways that rend is running this
[19:14] <Infidel> and know what
[19:14] <Infidel> I didn't even see that Tayrun had posted
[19:14] <Infidel> that cements it for me
[19:14] <Infidel> yay delaying!
[19:16] <Spoit> yeah, given their MO for the past couple days, I feel like gambling on a random villager
[19:16] <Infidel> it also can confirm someone if a kill is blocked
[19:16] <Spoit> probably not zellpher, because they might keep him around as a vote target
[19:16] <Infidel> since one of us at least will survive
[19:16] <Spoit> not necessarily
[19:16] <Infidel> if you block a kill
[19:16] <Infidel> yes, necessarily
[19:16] <Spoit> if I protect a random villager?
[19:17] <Spoit> and they target you and me
[19:17] <Infidel> if we both die then you didn't block a kill, did you
[19:17] <Infidel> :P
[19:17] <Spoit> oh
[19:17] <Infidel> saving one of us doesn't answer any questions
[19:17] <Infidel> saving a villager will be game ending for the mafia
[19:17] <Infidel> that is unconfirmed atm
[19:17] <Infidel> so guard a villager
[19:18] <Infidel> if they gun for us, it doesn't really matter if one of us is saved that much
[19:18] <Infidel> and I kinda doubt they'll gun for us both
[19:18] <Infidel> but hey
[19:18] <Spoit> well okay, so if they get both of us, but we get a mafia
[19:18] <Spoit> that'll be 3 v 1
[19:19] <Spoit> I'm not convinced that they'll aim for either langly or zellpher, if neither are mafia
[19:19] <Spoit> since both are good vote targets
[19:20] <Infidel> guard peccavi
[19:20] <Spoit> okay
[19:20] <Infidel> if he lives and isn't blocked
[19:20] <Infidel> it's probably him
[19:21] <Spoit> are you going leave a message as a safeguard in case both of us are killed to that effect?
[19:22] <Infidel> I think we should, I think
[19:22] <Infidel> we hit a mafia tonight: we have to assume there is 1, we lay out our cards and vote him out
[19:22] <Infidel> nothing to really lose since we make the right call or don't
[19:22] <Spoit> I'm not going to be back until after 9
[19:22] <Infidel> if we miss, it doesn't matter
[19:23] <Spoit> if we miss, the game's over tonight
[19:23] <Infidel> that's what I said!
[19:27] <Spoit> hmm
[19:27] <Spoit> langly's vote switch was pretty sudden
[19:28] <Spoit> may be reading too much into it, but if they knew that 'alegis' first kill was blocked, they'd know the guard was still in the game
[19:30] <Infidel> if Tayrun is evil, then Kuhlmeye has to be his partner
[19:30] <Infidel> because he wouldn't have put Zellpher in the lead
[19:30] <Infidel> and the other two are rolling on him quickly
[19:31] <Infidel> unless it's a gambit and one of those two switchers is his ally, hoping to win tomorrow by proving themselves today
[19:31] <Infidel> it was a very strong call
[19:31] <Infidel> so they might be trying to win tomorrow by giving up one today
[19:33] <Spoit> are they experienced enough for that?
[19:33] <Spoit> I doubt langly is
[19:34] <Infidel> it's a pretty quick decision as well
[19:35] <Infidel> both of them mafia? unlikely since peccavi voted for langly first vote of today
[19:35] <Infidel> so if langly is the mafia, and he voted zellpher
[19:35] <Infidel> that makes kuhlmeye mafia
[19:36] <Infidel> peccavi casting a first stone and following my call is consistent with a villager okay
[19:36] <Infidel> nothing contrary about it
[19:36] <Infidel> interesting
[19:36] <Infidel> kuhlmeye keeps coming up as a possible partner
[19:37] <Infidel> he claimed a specific role
[19:37] <Infidel> I'm Elizabeth II (Queen of England). I'm a villager.
[19:37] <Infidel> that doesn't sound like one you'd lie about, or be mafia
[19:37] <Infidel> they may have cover roles though
[19:37] <Infidel> cause Alegis is a role name with no margin
[19:37] <Infidel> and that was a role
[19:38] <Infidel> he's also much more experienced
[19:38] <Infidel> thoughts?
[19:38] <Spoit> hmm
[19:38] <Spoit> did tayrun claim a role?
[19:39] <Spoit> because I remember something about how usually all the mafia do, or none of them
[19:40] <Infidel> yeah, but I'm starting to wonder hehe
[19:40] <Infidel> I hate it when it comes down to "how many times are you going to go in cycles until you stop on someone"
[19:40] <Infidel> where it becomes a coin toss and see what happens
[19:41] <Infidel> pecavvi didn't claim a role name but he chimed in as a vanilla
[19:41] <Infidel> and that he thought 38th was before we finished lynching him
[19:41] <Infidel> buying cred, unknown
[19:42] <Spoit> anyway, I'm leaving momentarily
[19:42] <Infidel> shall we try the Tayrun?
[19:43] <Spoit> hmm
[19:44] <Spoit> yeah
[19:45] <Spoit> though kuhl's late langly vote sticks out
[19:45] <Infidel> how is that?
[19:46] <Spoit> as does langly going from having trouble understanding a vig kill to pointing out how silly my vote against the zand wagon was
[19:46] <Infidel> I don't want to kill kuhl if he is actually the queen, as claimed, and it was just paranoia overthinking
[19:46] <Infidel> I'd rather lose with a less paranoid history to my name XD
[19:46] <Infidel> than lose killing him
[19:47] <Infidel> also I figure this
[19:47] <Infidel> Tayrun being evil points to kuhlmeye, I already stated
[19:47] <Spoit> okay, we'll go with tayrun
[19:47] <Infidel> so if kuhlmeye is evil, then tayrun probably is
[19:47] <Infidel> so lets just stick with tayrun?
[19:47] <Spoit> yeah
[19:47] <Infidel> I think we hit or miss on those two together
We won? Awesome, I was a little worried there, until kuhlmeye started proclaiming the end of the game if he died.
That is why I love the irony that attempting to remove me from the game caused their own to die and created an instant three-man network, putting me in touch with "Infidel" and "MrBlarney". It was rather righteous!
just like how real manly men only kill villagers when they're a vig, every single time
edit: Is that avatar from Charles Christopher?
Thanks for running rend!
the drawings are good avatar material
You are a good man and I wish more played like this. (That is, played right!)
I followed this strategy in Phallakinetic by killing one of the village's win conditions with my only shot of the game.
Who did you shoot?