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Dungeon Siege 3 - Obsidian's action RPG (NSF 56k)

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  • Magic PinkMagic Pink Tur-Boner-Fed Registered User regular
    I'm going Lucas and Anjali. Katarina will never, ever be on my TV screen for longer then I can help it.

    Whoops: I mean Reinhardt. Lucas is lamezzorz.

  • hamdingershamdingers Registered User regular
    Magic Pink wrote: »
    I'm going Lucas and Anjali. Katarina will never, ever be on my TV screen for longer then I can help it.

    Is is the outfit? Because I think it's the outfit.

  • Skull2185Skull2185 Be advised: The situation is butt. Over. Seriously, it's way fucked.Registered User regular
    Magic Pink wrote: »
    I'm going Lucas and Anjali. Katarina will never, ever be on my TV screen for longer then I can help it.

    Sure, she looks silly, but she a pretty fun character to play.

    Next playthrough I'm gonna roll with Reinhart, and probably Katarina as my partner. Doubt I'll ever attempt to play the game on hardcore though, had to bump it to casual for the Gent, and even then it was a struggle...

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  • DashuiDashui Registered User regular
    hamdingers wrote: »
    Magic Pink wrote: »
    I'm going Lucas and Anjali. Katarina will never, ever be on my TV screen for longer then I can help it.

    Is is the outfit? Because I think it's the outfit.

    The camera is so high up you never really get a good look at her cleavage or legs, but I will admit I was a little bothered that she had very little visual diversity. Her guns and gear almost always looked the same, aside from color or a few feathers.

    She is, however, very fun to play as and probably the strongest character in the game by far.
    hamdingers wrote:
    When I got Sir Boring... I mean Lucas I swapped out Anjali for him. That lasted until I hit my first mini-boss. After 2-3 retries of rezzing Lucas when he dies RIGHT NEXT TO THE BOSS .... Anjali was back in.

    Kat is great! I'm not looking forward to a Lucas or Reinhart play through.

    Lucas and Anjali are a lot of fun to play as, but I ultimately chose to play as Katarina first (after a lot of back and forth saves) because of her voice actress. Lucas' obviously fake British accent (which seemed to bounce between American Neutral and British) annoyed me, and Anjali was very flat and sounded like a robot.

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  • Magic PinkMagic Pink Tur-Boner-Fed Registered User regular
    hamdingers wrote: »
    Magic Pink wrote: »
    I'm going Lucas and Anjali. Katarina will never, ever be on my TV screen for longer then I can help it.

    Is is the outfit? Because I think it's the outfit.


    It's not even the overt sexism anymore. She just looks stupidly uncomfortable, poor girl.

  • XagarXagar Registered User regular
    So my first casual speedrun as Anjali is done, in 2:00:50. spin kick spin kick spin kick spin kick spin kick

    The ingame timer actually IS accurate after a few tests, but it doesn't count deaths or anything, so it's ideal.

    Also I used the OPF extractor linked before to find out the unlocking prereqs for abilities. It's very simple - 150 uses for defensive abilities and 200 for offensive ones.

    "For who knows what is good for a man in life, during the few and meaningless days he passes through like a shadow?
    Who can tell him what will happen under the sun after he is gone?"
  • MorvidusMorvidus Registered User regular
    The DOG as Lucas made for an easy achievement. Wind Shear > Blade Dash, slash slash slash, Wind Shear > Blade Dash, slash slash slash.

    After 30 seconds, get to the platform and spam the OP Vanguard's Strike.

    Lucas is great, but I think it's because I'm an RPG warrior at heart. Oh, and GameFAQs published my Lucas guide!

  • surrealitychecksurrealitycheck Registered User regular
    I am really disappointed in the lack of character customisation in this game. I enjoy the greater focus on story and atmosphere, but I don't really feel like my character would be any different to anybody else's. :(

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  • hamdingershamdingers Registered User regular
    I am really disappointed in the lack of character customisation in this game. I enjoy the greater focus on story and atmosphere, but I don't really feel like my character would be any different to anybody else's. :(

    Other than the build and what gear you equip - there's none really. I wasn't shocked by this though.

  • DracomicronDracomicron Registered User regular
    hamdingers wrote: »
    I am really disappointed in the lack of character customisation in this game. I enjoy the greater focus on story and atmosphere, but I don't really feel like my character would be any different to anybody else's. :(

    Other than the build and what gear you equip - there's none really. I wasn't shocked by this though.

    I don't think anybody expected Mass Effect or Elder Scrolls-level of customization on characters that were pregenerated from the start.

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  • C2BC2B Registered User regular
    Magic Pink wrote: »
    hamdingers wrote: »
    Magic Pink wrote: »
    I'm going Lucas and Anjali. Katarina will never, ever be on my TV screen for longer then I can help it.

    Is is the outfit? Because I think it's the outfit.


    It's not even the overt sexism anymore. She just looks stupidly uncomfortable, poor girl.

    You never really see her cleavage (unless you do it for kicks and play the camera) except if you are not playing her and she gets better outfits later. Pants and the belly free outfit removed to full on (except cleavage). Theres actually a ingame "reason" for Lescanzi putting out so much. They are a matriarchal society which expands by mixing with other races/societies. So the "whore" comment may have not been so wrong.

    Doesn't really explain Rajani and her unnamed friend but still.

    The games setting is actually mostly controlled by females.

    Royals = The Queen
    Azunai = Jeyne
    Lescanzi = Whoevers in charge
    Legion = If you play a female

    The only "big" society that isn't is the republic of stonebridge. And they were/are arguably the worst and most backwards of the bunch (even though you side with them in the end)

  • surrealitychecksurrealitycheck Registered User regular
    I don't think anybody expected Mass Effect or Elder Scrolls-level of customization on characters that were pregenerated from the start.

    wat

    Diablo 2 had 5 presets and was much more flexible and Mass Effect or Elder Scrolls

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  • FreiFrei Registered User regular
    If someone can mod this game to make corpses not disappear, I will play it.

    I wouldn't go out alone into America.
  • JihadJesusJihadJesus Registered User regular
    I don't think anybody expected Mass Effect or Elder Scrolls-level of customization on characters that were pregenerated from the start.

    wat

    Diablo 2 had 5 presets and was much more flexible and Mass Effect or Elder Scrolls
    I think they mean character customization as in 'make your own faces' not 'tons of different and meaningful gear choices, skills, attack options, and viable wacky character builds'.

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  • surrealitychecksurrealitycheck Registered User regular
    Dis is sum action rpg

    I expect MANY VIABLE WACKY BILDS

    edit: But yeah I was referring to build variety/complexity rather than i make pretty barbie face

    although I like make pretty barbie face

    fun

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  • chocoboliciouschocobolicious Registered User regular
    Well there is definitely some room for some variability, depending on what you spec into. But yeah, nothing astounding.

  • Alucard6986Alucard6986 Registered User regular
    C2B wrote: »
    Magic Pink wrote: »
    hamdingers wrote: »
    Magic Pink wrote: »
    I'm going Lucas and Anjali. Katarina will never, ever be on my TV screen for longer then I can help it.

    Is is the outfit? Because I think it's the outfit.


    It's not even the overt sexism anymore. She just looks stupidly uncomfortable, poor girl.

    You never really see her cleavage (unless you do it for kicks and play the camera) except if you are not playing her and she gets better outfits later. Pants and the belly free outfit removed to full on (except cleavage). Theres actually a ingame "reason" for Lescanzi putting out so much. They are a matriarchal society which expands by mixing with other races/societies. So the "whore" comment may have not been so wrong.

    Doesn't really explain Rajani and her unnamed friend but still.

    The games setting is actually mostly controlled by females.

    Royals = The Queen
    Azunai = Jeyne
    Lescanzi = Whoevers in charge
    Legion = If you play a female

    The only "big" society that isn't is the republic of stonebridge. And they were/are arguably the worst and most backwards of the bunch (even though you side with them in the end)

    The republic is more backwards than all the warmongering, crusade obsessed monarchs?
    Spoiler:

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  • TheOrangeTheOrange Registered User regular
    I loved the world more than I should; the dwarven mines actually made me pause and think about fantasy in general, then I started thinking about my life choices and got depressed.

    Finished the game - normal - Lucas - do gooder choices.

    I have to say, the game sounds like it wants you to change stances as needed but the ability progression and gear seems to push you to focus on one spell, then pour all points on your 30 second buffs. My tactic on every boss was Cast three buffs->Spam your two handed charge->When you get all power back, repeat.

    And gear helps push you that way too, as the two handed charge with 50% extra crit chance begs for more Doom (on Jayn it crits for 1k+ easy) And agi (to close the gap to 100%).

    I'm playing Kat now, and it seems she was built better and I find that two hours in, I change a lot between stances.

  • C2BC2B Registered User regular
    The republic is more backwards than all the warmongering, crusade obsessed monarchs?
    Spoiler:

    Yeah, pretty much.

    The Royals fight for survival against Jeyne and Jeyne fights because
    Spoiler:

    Now compare that with Stonebridge that was perfectly content with murdering legionnares that didn't defend themselves in the streets and do so without even prosecute those responsible. Granted it has cool guys too but it has a lot more things I'm uncomftable with. Also the other male lead society in the game (First People) which are basically super racists.

  • C2BC2B Registered User regular
    More concept art

    http://apedogs.com/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=1322

    Including the original concept art for Katarina

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    And the Vodyanoy

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  • XagarXagar Registered User regular
    I found out the weirdness about the timer - it's fine, but there's an extra :00 between hours and minutes.

    So I did a run with Kat in 2:31.

    "For who knows what is good for a man in life, during the few and meaningless days he passes through like a shadow?
    Who can tell him what will happen under the sun after he is gone?"
  • C2BC2B Registered User regular
    Xagar wrote: »
    I found out the weirdness about the timer - it's fine, but there's an extra :00 between hours and minutes.

    I did already realize that. But it still was wrong for me.

    For example my timer went from

    13:00:40

    to

    13:00:12

    (not 100% correct on the timer. From Memory)

  • brynstarbrynstar Registered User
    I've had the timer bug on the PC, but not on the 360. Really the only technical issue I've had. Loving this game so far, surprised at how well-connected it is to the previous Dungeon Siege games.

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  • surrealitychecksurrealitycheck Registered User regular
    Does anybody know what the stats actually do?

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  • VikingViking Registered User regular
    For Surrealitycheck.

    :Stats:
    Stamina = HP
    Will = Ability Damage
    Agility = Crit Chance
    Doom = Extra Crit Severity
    Momentum = Gain Focus on hit
    Retribution = Dmg enemies that hit you (similar to thorns in Diablo)
    Stagger = Stun Chance on hit
    Warding = Stun Chance on being hit
    Armour = I think this is a flat dmg reduction

    :Chaos effects:
    Bloodletting = Bleed effect (damage over time)
    Fire = Elemental Fire damage
    Ice = Elemental Ice damage
    Lightning = Elemental lightning damage
    Poison = Damage over time
    Vampire = Drain life with each hit
    Weakening = Enemies do less damage for a time
    Withering = Enemies take more dmg for a time

    It's worth noting that when you use an offensive ability, the game adds both your Attack DPS and Ability DPS scores together when working out the damage so you need to keep both values high.

    Defensive abilities key off Ability DPS only.

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  • XagarXagar Registered User regular
    Hmm...are you SURE it adds attack DPS? As far as I can tell, Will equipment adds massively to your ability damage and attack doesn't do anything to it.

    All the stats are in the in-game glossary. One of the other important things to note is that the stat (like Chaos:Fire 66) only affects the damage of the ability, not the proc rate. So having Chaos:Lightning 2 is actually pretty good, as it still randomly stuns your enemies.

    Also, I discovered a trick.
    You can move to cancel the aftercast animation of all abilities and the first attack of your combo. Doing the first attack over and over doesn't help much for damage or gaining focus, but it does help doing things like this:
    shoot->ability->step->shoot combo
    where normally you would have to wait after the ability to finish. Another use is:
    ability->step->ability(->step->ability, etc.)
    which takes MUCH longer if you stand still.

    It's simple to do - just hold right-click and hit the ability once you see your character move slightly. I'd call it "step canceling."

    Any time you can step cancel, you can also dodge, but you can dodge during things you can't step cancel, like the windups of the 2nd and 3rd hits of your combo.

    "For who knows what is good for a man in life, during the few and meaningless days he passes through like a shadow?
    Who can tell him what will happen under the sun after he is gone?"
  • VikingViking Registered User regular
    Not sure no. but thats what the help text said in the entry for Ability DPS so I guess its how it's meant to work....

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  • MorvidusMorvidus Registered User regular
    Offensive abilities are definitely Attack + Ability DPS.

    It's also worth noting that Retribution and Warding can trigger off blocked or shielded attacks.

  • TheOrangeTheOrange Registered User regular
    Actually I think it takes half your attack and like, 1.5 of your ability attack, I noticed when switching gear of equal attack with a peice of equal will, that the will is stronger, but not enough to make me conclude that attack has no effect.

  • Skull2185Skull2185 Be advised: The situation is butt. Over. Seriously, it's way fucked.Registered User regular
    Has anybody on Xbox not had the "Sell 100,000 gold worth of items" and "Survive 100,000 points of damage" achievements pop? I got the in game deeds, but they didn't pop, which is rather annoying.


    Also, trying to beat a boss (Rajani) with your starting equipment is fucking frustrating...

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  • XagarXagar Registered User regular
    Yeah, to do that I would honestly just suggest you use Kat. Start a new game, spend a couple hours doing all possible quests, equip Anjali with some nice gear, put proficiency points into the armor/attack debuff on Caress of Suffering, unlock empowered Heartseeking Shot, and put it on Casual. All Rajani's attacks are telegraphed by sounds and animations, and she doesn't have too many. I would also suggest unlocking fire jackal for Anjali, as the more targets there are to block Rajani's multi-shot in her second form the better.

    Alternatively you could get a real person on the second player and breeze past it.

    "For who knows what is good for a man in life, during the few and meaningless days he passes through like a shadow?
    Who can tell him what will happen under the sun after he is gone?"
  • MalReynoldsMalReynolds The Hunter S Thompson of incredibly mild medicines Registered User regular
    Just finished the game on Hardcore this Sunday. I was having trouble with one of the bosses near the end and ended up putting my game online, and had 3 other people join. I didn't have anyone else but Anjali specced or equipped, but the players were swell and stuck around, despite having starting gear and little else. We ended up breezing through the rest of the game (almost; the final-final dungeon had swarms of enemies that were stupdily difficult) - and I managed to snag the cheevo for Hardcore and finishing the game with 4 people. I thought I did all the sidequests; I guess I missed a few. I figure maybe some open in Stonebridge or somesuch, but I'm playing it again. Set it to Casual and it's almost like a New Game +.

    Fun times. I like this game bunches.

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  • L Ron HowardL Ron Howard Registered User regular
    I'm loving this game, and have been playing online pretty much solely, with anonymous people from the internet.
    My only real complaint is that the voice thing blows on PC. It's crackly, or breaks up, or is too quiet, or sometimes just doesn't work. I know I'll be chatting with people, and then suddenly they'll go quiet, so I'll be sitting there going "canyouhearmecanyouhearmecanyouhearmecanyouhearmecanyouhearmecanyouhearmecanyouhearmecanyouhearmecanyouhearmecanyouhearme" for them to get angry and start typing in that they can hear me, yet I can't hear them at all.
    I've never experienced it in other games, and I would hate to have to switch to something like Vent for an anonymous game over the internet.
    Still fun though.

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  • GanluanGanluan Registered User regular
    There is one quest that is easily missable in Stonebridge after you fight the major boss for that area. Make sure you go back and talk to the Meisters afterward.

    I also had some weirdness with the 100k damage and sold value achievement. I got the deed for the damage while on the second to last boss, and then the achievement actually popped on my way to the final one. I got the deed for selling 100k at the merchant in the Spire, but had to sell another 25k worth of stuff to get the achievement.

    Now I need this "play co-op for 3 hours in one session" achievement, which is frankly bullshit. I don't have 2 wired controllers so I can't even cheese it by doing it locally.

  • C2BC2B Registered User regular
    Obsidian opened a Blog and its first real entry is about the DSIII keybinding patch. Its also possible now to map left and right moving seperatly from the camera.

    ETA is somewhere next week

    http://blog.obsidian.net/

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  • XagarXagar Registered User regular
    All I want to do is put stance shift on mousewheel and view change somewhere I won't hit it accidentally because zooming in is useless.

    "For who knows what is good for a man in life, during the few and meaningless days he passes through like a shadow?
    Who can tell him what will happen under the sun after he is gone?"
  • SaphierSaphier Registered User regular
    Can anyone tell me why I appear to be getting free talent points when I level up? At level 6, as Anjali, I spent 5 points in Phoenix's Warmth and 1 in Spiritual Devastation, and the game randomly gave me 3 points in Radiant Will on its own.

  • brynstarbrynstar Registered User
    Saphier wrote: »
    Can anyone tell me why I appear to be getting free talent points when I level up? At level 6, as Anjali, I spent 5 points in Phoenix's Warmth and 1 in Spiritual Devastation, and the game randomly gave me 3 points in Radiant Will on its own.

    That uh...that definitely seems like a bug.

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  • SaphierSaphier Registered User regular
    Same thing happened when I played Katerina... she got free talent points in the first skill despite me not spending any in it.

  • C2BC2B Registered User regular
    Saphier wrote: »
    Same thing happened when I played Katerina... she got free talent points in the first skill despite me not spending any in it.

    Its a reported bug/glitch. Seems to happen randomly (Didn't happen for me :() Should be fixed in a upcoming patch,

    In other News Keybinding Patch should arrive today and according to the resumee of an Obsidian focus tester a DLC 1 is/was already in Production

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