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Yeah, they kind of painted themselves into a corner with their HE damage mechanics (i.e., you need massive HE shells to seriously damage well-armored targets). At this point artillery has to do lots of damage per hit to be effective vs. heavy tanks.
However, it might be that in conjunction with a gradual zeroing-in mechanic, arty could get a substantial ROF boost and keep its heavy damage capability. If it takes 15 or 20 seconds of sustained fire in a given area to start scoring hits reliably, that would give smaller, faster targets plenty of time to clear out. Heavies that start moving promptly, or which are already on the move, should be able to escape with minimal or even no damage if they're lucky. Anything big and slow that doesn't get a move on, though, would get badly pulverized.
I think that could work pretty well. It'd be fun for artillery players to be shooting more often, and they'd have more interesting strategic decisions to make when selecting target areas. Tank drivers would have more warning that they're about to get hammered, and could take evasive action - making arty fire feel like less of a bolt out of the blue, and more like something you can do actually react to in a meaningful way. And it would make artillery more effective at beating up on large targets that sit still out of cover, while reducing its ability to swat targets on the move.
But, since there's no "infantry killer" game mode, nor "destroy the objective" game mode (aside from tanks), SPGs need to do something.
In direct fire mode, which they did very badly ( 8x10,5cm howitzers being overrun defending a bridge from a counterattacking t-34 unit before Moscow). Only guns capable of killing KV from more than short range were high velocity anti fortification guns like the 10cm Kannons, 8,8cm high velocity FlaK firing armour piercing ammunition. Indirect HE or even direct HE was not a effective killer of tanks
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/10_cm_schwere_Kanone_18
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/8.8_cm_FlaK_18/36/37/41
they only had the FlaK guns in north africa.
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I really liked it! I hated the T-34-85, and the T-43 was a life saver for me. I have the best win/loss ratio with it.
Researched the T-54 tonight, but don't have enough cash to buy it.
Also I've made my first foray into heavy tank territory, via Tiger, and I'm enjoying it quite a bit. I kinda thought I'd hate the slowness of heavies, but being able to take a hit and having a nice big gun definitely outweighs the slowness. Also it feels like easy mode after playing mediums the entire time.
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Well, exactly. Unless you dropped a bunch of gold, you don't have any upgrades for it and your crew is at less than 100%. And In any event you're still adjusting to a new tank. The first few matches are always the worst. You'll get used to it!
Not to say that I think the T-43 is stellar - rather I think it's thoroughly average. I found it to be the most boring of the Soviet mediums; it does its job adequately well but without any flair. All the other tanks in the line have some distinguishing strengths and weaknesses that require you to display a bit of creativity. The T-43, on the other hand, is the most middle-of-the-road tank you can imagine.
Whatever the case, I went into the T-34 and T-34-85 the same way--with a 75% crew and the basic upgrades--and did much better.
For starters, I didn't lose 6 battles in a row. I'm normally not this superstitious, not even close...except in WoT.
You did say yourself that you got 3 kills with it in your first battle, which went on to a loss anyway. To me that suggests that the problem may not be you and your T-43.
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Work event, I'll try to get on tonight, but I may have to leave early.
2: Nope, this game is a lot about advancing safely and using cover. Approaching the enemy lines while they can see you from a bush or have a clear firing line is what you generally want to avoid. Later tier tanks do have a significantly larger sight radius so you see the enemy that's shooting you a lot more often than not. Often I'm just lazy and let other people spot for me unless I know I can advance safely, which takes some experience. The fact that later tanks can take a few hits also makes things less frustrating. Also, get your commander skill up first thing, he'll spot farther for you and also gives a skill bonus to the other crew members.
2) Nope! You can mitigate that by moving from cover to cover (including other tanks), staying behind ridges when you can, advancing in groups, and so on, but it will still happen from time to time.
2) Others have already covered this, but yeah, you need to get to used to it. If you think there's someone sitting in cover up ahead of you and you've got the ammo to spare, you can try blind-firing a shot or two at it. Players with weak nerves will often assume they're already spotted if shots land near/on them and subsequently expose themselves.
Damn nice one Simpsonia!
As a matter of, well, making money instead of losing it, I've had to remove consumables from the T-43 because, even in the (fairly rare) event that my team wins while I'm in one, using a single consumable (or, less likely, two) means I'm actually loosing money in each match, thanks to the repair bills. If the match went well, you're rewarding with hilariously tiny profit margins when al is said in done. Unless you were mounting the 100 mm or greater, one repair kit isn't going to keep you from dying after getting tracked anyway. Very reeminiscient of the early German mediums, in that regard. That soft, fleshy ammo rack probably also doesn't help.
I've never heard the T-43 described as a money-making tank, or it might just be my luck (actually, the fact that you need to upgrade the suspension before anything else automatically puts it in the "Yeah, get ready to spend a lot" category).
On the positive side, it moves in reverse quite nicely.
The same cannot be said for any of my mediums starting with the T-34-85.
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The T-44 has the problem too, if I remember as well, but I think it wasn't as bad? Or maybe it was worse.
I've noticed this as well. I'm gonna hazard a guess that its to make heavies a competitive choice in comparison. Lets be honest, if you could run a medium for the same cost as a heavy, would you drive the heavy? Mediums do all the same at the expense of a bit of health and lesser armour, and at the stage that you start to loose money for a win, armour is irrelevant in most cases. A far more likely explanation though is the cost of ammo for heavy tanks. I know that any IS variant that uses the 122 is paying in the region of 1000c per shot and I'm guessing its the same for German and US heavies. I suspect they drop the repair cost down on them so you can still make money after taking into account ammo.
In semi-related news, I caved and bought a Löwe yesterday. So far I'm not seeing the credit gains although I only managed 2(?) wins in the 10 or so games I played. You also seem to be at a disadvantage in a straight up slug-fest because everyone seems to know about the massive hole in the front of your armour. Also the stupidly slow reload rate. Need to start adjusting to a more hide-'n'-seek play style with it I guess.
Oh and I managed to get my best Steel Wall yet in my KV-3. Took on a Sherman, T-34, KV-1S and PzIV without a scratch of damage aside from constantly broken tracks. I'm guessing the fact that I was immobilised on a slight slope meant they unintentionally hindered themselves, although I think the KV-1S kept hitting me in the track trying to get in a side shot because of the angle.
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I put a Wet Ammo Rack on my T-43 (and rammer/vents) during the last equipment sale, as I figured I'd move them to the T-44 later anyway (about 12 cents). T-44 is an ammo rack on tracks, from my experience in the beta...
The 1k shells is what really motivates you to learn how to shoot hehe (place reticle, zoom in, adjust reticle, wait, fire).
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Especially at Tier VI. Especially when you consider both guns have the same penetration and worse balistics (they travel very slightly slower), in addition to being less accurate.
Sure, there are circumstances where it's worthwhile (ever fight a Maus as an SU-100?), but not that many.
I'm particularly surprised that you've had trouble breaking even with the T-34-85, Minirhyder. In general I wouldn't expect anyone to lose money at tier 6 in any tank. Your stats look alright, though, so I doubt it's because you suck.
Re: the T-43's ammo rack, I don't remember it being particularly problematic. The T-44's is legendarily bad, though. Wet Ammo Rack is almost mandatory for it.
Most people on the WoT forums would call you crazy for saying this.
Personally, I think a more reasonable take on it is that both types of tank have different, equally-important roles to fill. Fast mediums can exploit fleeting tactical opportunities, and tough heavies are good for holding a defensive line or leading a push through a chokepoint. Armor is irrelevant in some situations, but I dunno about "most."
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I dunno, I'm sure I took a few fatal hits to it. I vaguely remember it being worse than average, but certainly nowhere near as unforgettably bad as the T-44's!
Oh, so it wasn't "particularly problematic?" :winky: Don't get me wrong, I think you're right in that the T-44's was worse, but that doesn't make the T-43's not a problem.
Looks like you just got it recently? Do you have any upgrades for it yet? I know it's universally reviled with the stock gun, but it seems like most people like it once they get the long 88mm.
I actually don't remember my credit income with the T-34-85; at that point I wasn't even looking at credits because my other tanks made more that enough to make up for any losses. I was more concerned with xp then. Oh the good ol' days.
I just know that the T-43 and T-44 especially sucked my credits away. Even after battles I did somewhat ok in! Unless I killed/damaged 3+ tanks and won the battle I was likely to lose money. It made it hard to enjoy playing it. I sold the T-44 right after I researched the T-54, which I can't afford yet.
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Yeah two days with the long 7,5cm, godamn with skill you can still hurt things at tier VII in the DB with it. But at the Panther tier it is god awful. I only started making monies and killing 3-4 tanks again once I grinded my way to the small turm and the long 8,8cm. The Panther also manages to have the same armour but larger internal hitboxs than the DB meaning penetrating hits will tend to cause catistropic damage.
Get the long 8,8cm, spall liner, rammer and the vents. It's the 8,8cm that makes the panther a killer. Every other gun is awful You tend to lose monies even if you win as repair costs on tier VIII are insane 7-13k until you get the 8,8cm long that actually penetrates and damages tanks earning you cash.
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Then there is no hope for you liking the panther then
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Probably one of the only tanks in the game where most other T9/T10 tanks are free kills if you catch them 1v1 and get a decently angled hug off. Even T30's have trouble penetrating the turret, usually just bounces off.