Also pay attention people. When people point to Canada and all our awesome socialized services and health care?
That right there is how we got it in the first place. We used to be like you.
it seems like one of those "right place at the right time" kinda things
like it was certainly building up to that point prior to the revolution
but a lot of different coincidences occurred that favored the liberal movement
and everything fell into place after that
the idealist in me hopes things would go that well for us
but the realist in me sees that as the exception to the rule
I guess the pressure was built up to the point where it was gonna burst anyway. The 60s were more or less a renaissance up here, after the post-war dark ages. 15 years of awful ultra-conservative policy ruling our society and cultural oppression (there were no francophone CEOs, and so very few francophone white-collars at all) that just burst as soon as our baby-boomers became old enough to protest.
Though you could draw strong parallels to the current situation in the US. Minus the whole cultural/language inequity part which could have only happened here.
I would posit, as a guy who read a wikipedia article, that the death of the then premier and his successor had a lot to do with the success of the whole movement
Obama, I'm lookin at you...
this would of worked so much better if McCain had been elected
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a chain with the worst grits
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You can't get good grits outside of Dixie. Not ever.
Well yeah but that guy was an asshole symbol of everything wrong about our society. It was fortuitous, absolutely, but there really isn't an equivalent in American politics that could have the same effect. It's like if Fidel Castro died and then all the capitalist Cubans rose up and peacefully demanded a change. Like imagine if Ronald Reagan was way worse and more conservative than he was, and that he died in like his 4th term. Or like, Nixon from Watchmen. There were a lot more circumstances to it. Not the least of which being the fact that the baby boomers were coming into their own and how this happened at the same time as the US civil rights.
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my experience with chain restaurants that offer breakfast has been poor
diners are really the only places where i'll get breakfast food
breakfast food is so easy to make myself i just usually do that
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A lot of Denny's have a small bar tucked in the backside of the place. There will be a sign that says "cocktails" with an arrow pointing to a side entrance. I'm not joking.
Well yeah but that guy was an asshole symbol of everything wrong about our society. It was fortuitous, absolutely, but there really isn't an equivalent in American politics that could have the same effect. It's like if Fidel Castro died and then all the capitalist Cubans rose up and peacefully demanded a change. Like imagine if Ronald Reagan was way worse and more conservative than he was, and that he died in like his 4th term. Or like, Nixon from Watchmen. There were a lot more circumstances to it. Not the least of which being the fact that the baby boomers were coming into their own and how this happened at the same time as the US civil rights.
yeah I was just kidding
the situation is too different for something like that to have a significant effect
Quebec in the 50s was actually like a Tea Partier's wet dream. Absolute cultural segregation, communist witch-hunts, absolutely no government spending of any kind and absolute control of the church over every aspect of our lives. So yeah kind of like your 50s, except we had this kick-ass quiet revolution to shake us out of it and nobody here now wants to go back there.
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well at least we don't have a church controlling things
A lot of Denny's have a small bar tucked in the backside of the place. There will be a sign that says "cocktails" with an arrow pointing to a side entrance. I'm not joking.
All the breakfast places around here insist on putting all this fucking fruit all over everything and then like half of your plate is fruit so you get less of what you actually want.
But the rest is so good. Fucking restaurant being all like my mom and wanting me to eat my vitamin. Fuck vitamin.
Sure is annoying having a lot of people hate on the OWS movement
lol 99% more like 53% amirite haha hippies go get a job
really shows how little people have bothered to look up information on it, including teachers...
The only reason I'm hating is WHERE WERE YOU GUYS IN 2008 WHEN YOU COULD HAVE NIPPED THIS AT THE BUD?
yes, because clearly this was not a long time coming and our collective apathy and ignorance played no part in the wave of "fuck-you" that's been rolling towards this eventuality since before a vast majority of the protesters were even born.
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I have never seen that. They don't have that in Florida.
I've never seen that anywhere.
Think they're referred to as Denny's lounges. I've seen a bunch of them, they're usually between towns or places that get a lot of interstate/highway traffic in my experience.
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We've gotten lots of stuff done by peaceful protest in the 20th century because it went against the convention of violent revolution that goverments had prepared for from experience with police forces, national security, anti defamation laws, propaganda, media regulation and control, and REDACTED
It might be now that powerful people have finally adapted and found a way to counteract the nonviolent protest given enough test data. Satirical anti-protests, infiltrators, media spin, austerity and stoicism (practiced in the dark ages and now making a comeback), and possibly grand social experimentation. Do you think Gandhi would make any more than a snippet side-story today if he starved himself to death for an end to any of the major global conflicts? Maybe we've just gotten bored of nonviolent moral superiority and only ever liked it for its novelty when compared to violent protest.
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i'm trying a thing
it's not finished yet, but opinions are welcome
also i know it's probably dumb and naive and already been done but i have this gut-level need to get it out of my system
Its probably also worth noting that while Ghandi was a non-violent figure, the Indian Independence movement was not in itself non-violent.
Also, I think the value of the individual has gone down, especially in America, where we are viewed primarily as consumers. If a thousand people are sitting there idle, there's a thousand more who will produce, consume, and fill that void. Especially true in a global world, where there's entire nations yearning for the privelege to become modern corporate citizens.
In that type of world, a passive and non-violent protest is easily ignored, unless it becomes disruptive.
Can you imagine being some small town ohio deputy and your boss gets a call and looks at you and says "welp, looks like ole billy kilt hisself and let loose all his critters. You up for a tiger hunt, joe?"
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I would posit, as a guy who read a wikipedia article, that the death of the then premier and his successor had a lot to do with the success of the whole movement
Obama, I'm lookin at you...
diners are really the only places where i'll get breakfast food
breakfast food is so easy to make myself i just usually do that
yeah I was just kidding
the situation is too different for something like that to have a significant effect
directly
Fuck, I wanna go to that Denny's
But the rest is so good. Fucking restaurant being all like my mom and wanting me to eat my vitamin. Fuck vitamin.
I've never seen that anywhere.
lol 99% more like 53% amirite haha hippies go get a job
really shows how little people have bothered to look up information on it, including teachers...
The only reason I'm hating is WHERE WERE YOU GUYS IN 2008 WHEN YOU COULD HAVE NIPPED THIS AT THE BUD?
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Voting for Obama, trusting him to fix everything.
it took years of not getting paid for people to want to affect change
I'm still waiting on my magic Obama handout money, dammit. Must be delayed in the mail.
Well, 2008 was already way too late to prevent the Great Recession.
yes, because clearly this was not a long time coming and our collective apathy and ignorance played no part in the wave of "fuck-you" that's been rolling towards this eventuality since before a vast majority of the protesters were even born.
Think they're referred to as Denny's lounges. I've seen a bunch of them, they're usually between towns or places that get a lot of interstate/highway traffic in my experience.
It might be now that powerful people have finally adapted and found a way to counteract the nonviolent protest given enough test data. Satirical anti-protests, infiltrators, media spin, austerity and stoicism (practiced in the dark ages and now making a comeback), and possibly grand social experimentation. Do you think Gandhi would make any more than a snippet side-story today if he starved himself to death for an end to any of the major global conflicts? Maybe we've just gotten bored of nonviolent moral superiority and only ever liked it for its novelty when compared to violent protest.
Doc: That's right, twenty five years into the future. I've always dreamed on seeing the future, looking beyond my years, seeing the progress of mankind. I'll also be able to see who wins the next twenty-five world series.
Doc: That's right, twenty five years into the future. I've always dreamed on seeing the future, looking beyond my years, seeing the progress of mankind. I'll also be able to see who wins the next twenty-five world series.
it's not finished yet, but opinions are welcome
also i know it's probably dumb and naive and already been done but i have this gut-level need to get it out of my system
http://occupybigotry.wordpress.com/
Also, I think the value of the individual has gone down, especially in America, where we are viewed primarily as consumers. If a thousand people are sitting there idle, there's a thousand more who will produce, consume, and fill that void. Especially true in a global world, where there's entire nations yearning for the privelege to become modern corporate citizens.
In that type of world, a passive and non-violent protest is easily ignored, unless it becomes disruptive.
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But you have been to the Waffle House/Tire Center/Glory Hole/Free Clinic
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Wal Mart supercenter?
That's for ivory tower elitists, and he needs no part of that hippy fancy-boy nonsense.
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Man...