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MSPA: my tenuous grasp on the mspa thread is nearing its end

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    Duke 2.0Duke 2.0 Time Trash Cat Registered User regular
    GSM wrote:
    Also, jeeze, a fifteen minute long flash animation over fifty megs. I'd really like to see his keyframe timeline. How many layers do you think he uses? I bet he doesn't name his movieclips.

    He explained a while ago that his general animation style is just importing a bunch of images and moving them around/scaling and stuff. He might not use movieclips except for specific effects.

    I too would like to gaze upon the keyframe bar and know the magic behind this.

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    NiryaNirya Registered User regular
    Thing I just noticed in Drunkstuck.
    ASimPerson wrote:
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    WAIT WHAAAAAAAAAAA

    Look at where Aradiacestor is hitting the wall. That can't be a coincidence (actually it probably is but who cares)

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    ASimPersonASimPerson Cold... and hard.Registered User regular
    GSM wrote:
    Editing down is for media bound by practical limitations like paper pages, film stock, or reasonable expectations of audience attention span.

    This is the internet. None of those apply.

    Also, jeeze, a fifteen minute long flash animation over fifty megs. I'd really like to see his keyframe timeline. How many layers do you think he uses? I bet he doesn't name his movieclips.

    He said here that he had to split it up into 5 files and that after 7 minutes it started crashing Flash. Nothin' more technical than that though.

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    Cilla BlackCilla Black Priscilla!!! Registered User regular
    It's not likely to be a coincidence but it also isn't likely to have any importance to the story

    just hussie doing the self-referential thing he do

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    GoatmonGoatmon Companion of Kess Registered User regular
    Goatmon wrote:
    NeoToma wrote:
    The Prospit Dreamers all acended to godhood through the trusting of others

    Jade carried by Bec
    John lead there by Vriska
    Vriska brought there by Tavros

    While Derse Dreamers got there by sacrificing themselves for the greater good

    I'm wondering if that is significant

    Aradia didn't exactly sacrifice herself

    she was just kinda there

    still though, neat

    Also Jade didn't really trust jack, either.

    Well, she trusted him not to kill her, but that's it.

    And him carrying her seemed to be entirely out of her control.

    Although, come to think of it, why DID he bring her to the quest bed? Did he know how to do what he did, or did he have an informant helping him, or did he even know she would be ressurected? Too many questions.

    Remember, he killed John on his quest bed only for john to come back to life on him

    so he must have made the connection that the quest beds had some kind of resurrection powers

    There's no indication that I've seen that suggests he understands the relevance of where John died.

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    ASimPersonASimPerson Cold... and hard.Registered User regular
    And now, we will learn about the Sufferer.

    I'm summing up a summary here, so it might be a little curt. But there'll be pictures!
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    First start there and admire the flash file. Now, a summary of that page.

    The ancestors of the 12 trolls we know were once the players of Sgurb. However, inadquately prepared, they were doomed to fail. However, this was not entirely their fault.
    But their failure was more comprehensive, more systemic, than a result of simple inadequacy so common to young players of this game. Though they could not recognize it for the bad omen it was, this session was not the one in which they had been spawned. Such is the symptom of a subtle glitch affecting certain sessions, an error designed to trigger an unfathomable cascade of misfortune throughout paradox space. This glitch is the calling card of the one I serve. It is the discreet, gentlemanly manner in which he reserves his place in a universe for later visitation.
    I underlined that one part. Why? Er, it's not important right now.

    Recognizing their failure, they made a deal with "the mother of all monsters". She told them that they could get a second chance. A Scratch. With a hard reset, there would be 12 new heroes, and the failed heroes would have no memory of their session.

    In the scratched session, the failed heroes became the ancestors, and those who had been their ancestors would be come the heroes. In addition, the scratched session spawned Doc Scratch.

    As we saw in Hivebent, the new heroes suceeded in their quest. However, there was one hiccup with the plan. The Signless.
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    Hey isn't that Hussie?

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    Unlike his peers distributed elsewhere in history, he was not given a sign at a young age. Alas, there were no signs reserved for one of his mutant blood. His genetic deviation from the social order made him a pariah, forcing him to wander the world alone for many sweeps, concealing the color of his blood to avoid certain execution.

    However, his deviation also perhaps gave him the ability to see the imagery of an alternate Alternia.
    He would preach heretical ideas no one else had dared to entertain, let alone risk discussing. He espoused the virtues of forgiveness, compassion, and equality among all bloodlines. He distributed his message intelligently, careful to preach only to those receptive, never attracting unwelcome attention. But his growing movement could go unnoticed by the authorities for only so long.

    His movement sparked a massive civil war, but backed by Her Imperious Condenscesion the lowbloods stood no chance.

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    When he was finally killed, his anger rung through the cosmos with his last breath. This Vast Expletive was his final sermon, and somewhere encoded in its wavelengths was the truth in his teachings, waiting to reveal itself to any who would inherit his burden.
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    BOOYEAH!
    (Outside of this parenthetical aside, all text in the spoilers is the Hussie's.)

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    His shackles became the symbol of his dwindling disciples. By the time the trolls we know came around, the Suffer's tale was almost nothing but a myth. But his followers had worked in the shadows for centuries, and when another of his bloodline came, he would have a lusus and a sign.

    The first of his followers would be the Dolorosa.
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    Working in the caverns as an attendant to the mother grub, she first found the crater where he landed. Taking a huge risk in an massive exception for trollkind, she would raise him.
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    Oh hell no. He's talking about ancestors again, isn't he?

    There were two others in his inner circle.
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    The Ψiioniic was a mage of unequaled telekinetic ability, who upon hearing the words of the Sufferer was inspired to free himself from the sort of slavery typical of his mentally gifted class.

    And, just to prove that I didn't make this up.
    But his most devoted of all was his Disciple. She listened to every vision he retold, every lesson he preached, and faithfully recorded his scripture. Her ear was open to him always, and in time, his heart opened to her. To spread his message throughout the world they took to the seas in the vessel of legend known as the First Ship. It was said their love went beyond the four quadrants, transcending the grid entirely. Whatever that nonsense actually means.
    And, thus, Biblestuck was born.
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    He's keeping little girls locked up in weird rooms, and rambling about troll ancestors. I just know it.

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    Hey, remember Equius's ancestor and how he got helped out of a jam by Mindfang. Well... this was that jam. He saved Nepatacestor from death and thus she was able to preserve the Suffer's word.

    The Dolorosa was less fortunate. Much less. Hey, remember the first journal entry we found? You know, with the "lesbian pirate troll erotica fanfic". Well...
    But the Dolorosa was less fortunate, and was sold into slavery. She spent the rest of her life as property of vicious sea dwellers.
    Yeah....

    Oh, yeah, what about the other guy?
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    He became the finest Helmsman in the fleet of Her Imperious Condescension. His lifespan artificially lengthened by her touch, she used his unique abilities to power the fastes ship in the fleet - hers.

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    Backed by her lusus who lived in the deep ocean, she used the threat of the lusus's vast glub to keep the various classes in line. The bloodlines formed a hierarchy by their suspecitbility, with the most common being the most vulrnerable.

    After another civil war led by the Summoner, she scattered the adults of Alternia to the stars, locked in everlasting conquest.

    Comforted by this division, the Trolls were able to expand ever further into outer space. However, at long last Gl'bgolyb became more attached to one of her successors than to her. And, at least, farther away than ever, Alternia was bombarded by meteorites and the young slaughtered. The VAST GLUB caused a galaxy wide extinction event, leaving only the Condesce to travel back to Alternia at the mere speed of light.

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    612 solar sweeps later....
    She will find nothing but ruins and dust. If she cared to look closer, she would find a city of slain exiles, a man on the moon, and a pair of black lovers locked in a deadly dance. But whether she looks or not, one thing will find her with certainty.

    A new employment opportunity.
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    MY BEAUTIFUL PANELS WHAT HAS HE DONE. That son of a bitch. It's is going to take so many sweeps to clean this mess up. So very, very many sweeps.

    There will be two more updates, I believe.

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    Speed RacerSpeed Racer Scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratchRegistered User regular
    Goatmon wrote:

    There's no indication that I've seen that suggests he understands the relevance of where John died.

    No, there isn't

    but obviously he has come to understand since then that quest beds resurrect people

    as a game piece he probably already knows that quest beds are special somehow

    especially since the kingdoms have legends about the lore of the game

    so the idea that he would figure out that that's why John didn't stay dead would make sense

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    Day of the BearDay of the Bear The Qun demandsRegistered User regular
    I am keenly anticipating Drunkstuck: Cascade

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    GoatmonGoatmon Companion of Kess Registered User regular
    Goatmon wrote:

    There's no indication that I've seen that suggests he understands the relevance of where John died.

    No, there isn't

    but obviously he has come to understand since then that quest beds resurrect people

    as a game piece he probably already knows that quest beds are special somehow

    especially since the kingdoms have legends about the lore of the game

    so the idea that he would figure out that that's why John didn't stay dead would make sense

    It's possible he knew what would happen. But not certain.

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    Speed RacerSpeed Racer Scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratchRegistered User regular
    Goatmon wrote:
    Goatmon wrote:

    There's no indication that I've seen that suggests he understands the relevance of where John died.

    No, there isn't

    but obviously he has come to understand since then that quest beds resurrect people

    as a game piece he probably already knows that quest beds are special somehow

    especially since the kingdoms have legends about the lore of the game

    so the idea that he would figure out that that's why John didn't stay dead would make sense

    It's possible he knew what would happen. But not certain.

    why take her there if he didn't know

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    Cilla BlackCilla Black Priscilla!!! Registered User regular
    It's cosmically unlikely Jack would have taken Jade to the quest bed if he didn't know what at least might happen.

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    GoatmonGoatmon Companion of Kess Registered User regular
    edited October 2011
    Goatmon wrote:
    Goatmon wrote:

    There's no indication that I've seen that suggests he understands the relevance of where John died.

    No, there isn't

    but obviously he has come to understand since then that quest beds resurrect people

    as a game piece he probably already knows that quest beds are special somehow

    especially since the kingdoms have legends about the lore of the game

    so the idea that he would figure out that that's why John didn't stay dead would make sense

    It's possible he knew what would happen. But not certain.

    why take her there if he didn't know

    You do realize I was just asking this question, right?

    I was saying that we don't know anything for certain, here. It's probable, but I haven't seen enough to be certain that knew exactly what he was doing.

    Hell, he may have just thought the location was important, but not why, and thought it would be an appropriate place to leave her remains. We just don't know.

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    TheySlashThemTheySlashThem Registered User regular
    edited October 2011
    again, guys: he only gave a shit about jade because bec's in his head

    bec would definitely know how the game works

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    Speed RacerSpeed Racer Scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratchRegistered User regular
    Goatmon wrote:
    Goatmon wrote:
    Goatmon wrote:

    There's no indication that I've seen that suggests he understands the relevance of where John died.

    No, there isn't

    but obviously he has come to understand since then that quest beds resurrect people

    as a game piece he probably already knows that quest beds are special somehow

    especially since the kingdoms have legends about the lore of the game

    so the idea that he would figure out that that's why John didn't stay dead would make sense

    It's possible he knew what would happen. But not certain.

    why take her there if he didn't know

    You do realize I was just asking this question, right?

    I was saying that we don't know anything for certain, here. It's probable, but I haven't seen enough to believe he knew exactly what he was doing.

    Hell, he may have just thought the location was important, but not why, and thought it would be an appropriate place to leave her remains. We just don't know.

    okay

    either

    he randomly and for no reason took her to a place that brought her back to life

    or

    he knew that taking her there would revive her and took her there in order to bring her back to life

    you're right there's no way to tell WHAT was going through that crazy dog cat bird tentacle clown man's mind

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    BahamutZEROBahamutZERO Registered User regular
    no he wouldn't, bec has all the intellect of an ordinary dog.

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    NeoTomaNeoToma Registered User regular
    Hey Speed.
    Speed.
    Shoosh shoosh shoosh Shoosh

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    Speed RacerSpeed Racer Scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratchRegistered User regular
    either way, noir's motivations for bringing her there really don't matter

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    Cilla BlackCilla Black Priscilla!!! Registered User regular
    bec would only know in that he is prototyped and has all the knowledge that provides

    he is otherwise just an omnipotent dog

    but there hasn't been anything to suggest the game knowledge aspect of a sprite is also transferred to a ring bearer, just the aspects of what they are prototyped with.

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    Speed RacerSpeed Racer Scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratchRegistered User regular
    edited October 2011
    one thing I always liked about act 4 jack

    his whole rebellion was based on not wanting to wear a dumb hat

    and then he put the ring on and his head morphed into the shape of a dumb hat

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    Day of the BearDay of the Bear The Qun demandsRegistered User regular
    jack is pretty great

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    BahamutZEROBahamutZERO Registered User regular
    one thing I always liked about act 4 jack

    his whole rebellion was based on not wanting to wear a dumb hat

    and then he put the ring on and his head morphed into the shape of a dumb hat

    I have always appreciated this irony as well

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    Cilla BlackCilla Black Priscilla!!! Registered User regular
    anyway

    time for sleep

    perhaps i will not wake up in the morning

    but then i'd miss the rest of updates, forever. hm.

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    Speed RacerSpeed Racer Scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratchRegistered User regular
    huh

    if you pause Cascade near the start of part two, with the spirograph, the spirograph keeps moving

    this is not actually particularly interesting

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    Cilla BlackCilla Black Priscilla!!! Registered User regular
    actually, new godtier hoodie designs are out. Hero of Mind is pretty rad but I'm not into the color so much. Hero of Heart is too hearty.

    I'm really looking forward to seeing the others. The Hero of Rage design should be interesting.

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    ASimPersonASimPerson Cold... and hard.Registered User regular
    edited October 2011
    I am keenly anticipating Drunkstuck: Cascade

    Eh... Hussie kind of beat me to the punch: http://mspandrew.tumblr.com/post/11941710181
    Maybe if he doesn't do the follow-on post I'll still do it.

    By the way, the next Drunkstuck contains some import stuff! Remember to click the spoilers.

    Oh, and yeah, A SNEAK PREVIEW OF THE NEXT DRUNKSTUCK:
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    GoatmonGoatmon Companion of Kess Registered User regular
    edited October 2011
    okay

    either

    he randomly and for no reason took her to a place that brought her back to life

    or

    he knew that taking her there would revive her and took her there in order to bring her back to life

    you're right there's no way to tell WHAT was going through that crazy dog cat bird tentacle clown man's mind

    You don't really believe those are the only options, do you? o_O

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    Duke 2.0Duke 2.0 Time Trash Cat Registered User regular
    It seems the kingdoms have some amount of knowledge on how the Incipisphere works based primarily on story and legends. Like an old story on how a dead hero would come back when placed on these mysterious beds on these lands, or secret labs that would take you to the Genesis Frog that comprises their universe. How specific these stories are on the mechanics of the session is unknown. It's not an impossibility that Jack knew of a revered bed special to his people, and the Bec part of him wanted to give Jade a good place to rest. Or suspected that it would bring her back.

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    ASimPersonASimPerson Cold... and hard.Registered User regular
    edited October 2011
    Again, trying to summarize a summary. My apologies.
    The 12th ancestor arrived a bit late.
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    I would raise the girl to be groomed for her calling. My lessons would emphasize obedience, mastery of the clockwork majyyks, and being locked in a room.

    As you must have gathered by now, my employer will enter this universe quite soon. I will then relinquish my custody to him, and she will serve as his Handmaid for an eternity to be specified. As you must have also gathered, she has already done so. Though her most common of blood should have let her expire in just a dozen or two sweeps, his curse kept her very much alive.

    And she did not intend to stay that way.

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    She would become the Handmaid in the direct service of Scratch's master.

    Whereas Scratch is a weapon of subtley - "a soldier in a war of a single shot fired" - the Handmaid would be the instrument of terror. She would be used to directly shape Alternia's and the Trolls' evolution, inspiring a world where the eventual players would be well prepared for the game. (What he means by this is something you should probably be familiar with by now.) With the abolity to travel through time, she would be there at all of the Troll civilization's key moments.
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    Whoa, better go easy on these. Might need some later.

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    The two last trolls alive, blood of rust and royalty, will make each other pay for the crimes against their race. Their payment will be mutually dealt in the currency of punishment and reward at once. The Condesce will be rewarded with the power and immortality her new service entails, and punished by the grueling slavery for which it is synonymous. And you, young lady, are to be punished by death at the hands of your replacement. And so too will this be your reward.
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    Tick. Tock. Tick. Tock. Tick. Tock. My heartbeat falls in rhythm with the clock as I draw close to my prey. I leave nothing to chance, for you see it is the most dangerous prey of all, a four foot tall asshole in suspenders who won't shut up. Wait for it, Hussie. Wait for it...

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    See? Even that little girl has had enough of your shit. Run, Aradia's ancestor! Run!!!! You have locked up your last asian schoolgirl, you sick fuck.

    Oh don't you flop around at me like that. Are you listening little man?!
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    I guess...

    I guess he is just a limp lifeless puppet when I am around. Like a reverse Calvin and Hobbes kind of thing. That is...

    That is a little disturbing.
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    Wait, what? Isn't that Disc 2?
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    One more to go.

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    NeoTomaNeoToma Registered User regular
    So It's looking like the The Condese is going to go to the human's scratched session and act as AradiaAncestor did for the troll.

    Scratched Earth is gonna be this crazy nightmare ruled by Betty Crocker

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    Me: maybe hussie is a bleach fan
    Me: in the worst way possible
    Me: can you imagine
    Me: hussie in bleach shipwars
    Quicken: AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
    Quicken: he seems like the ichihime type

    What's Wrong With Ichihime???????

    Gunna go Bankai on this fool.

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    TheySlashThemTheySlashThem Registered User regular
    no he wouldn't, bec has all the intellect of an ordinary dog.

    not entirely

    had enough of an understanding of sburb to know that prototyping himself would keep anyone wearing the ring from trying to kill jade, remember?

    he's a dog, yes, but he's also a first guardian, and that has to bring some mental enhancements with it

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    edited October 2011
    Goatmon wrote:
    okay

    either

    he randomly and for no reason took her to a place that brought her back to life

    or

    he knew that taking her there would revive her and took her there in order to bring her back to life

    you're right there's no way to tell WHAT was going through that crazy dog cat bird tentacle clown man's mind

    You don't really believe those are the only options, do you? o_O

    any other explanation for his actions is groundless speculation

    at this point in time there's no reason to think there was any other reason than the obvious

    which isn't to say that it's definitely that

    but that i's the only sensible thing to assume until more information comes to light, and there's currently no reason to doubt that assumption

    and it's such a minor detail in the grand scheme of things that I seriously doubt it's ever going to be elaborated upon further

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    Day of the BearDay of the Bear The Qun demandsRegistered User regular
    such a good panel

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    ASimPersonASimPerson Cold... and hard.Registered User regular
    A SNEAK PREVIEW OF THE NEXT, AND PROBABLY FINAL FOR NOW, DRUNKSTUCK
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    Duke 2.0Duke 2.0 Time Trash Cat Registered User regular
    Dammit Lexxy isn't here anymore I needed to ask her an important question.

    Does Jade still have human ears, and if so, how are her glasses staying up?

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    SwissLionSwissLion We are beside ourselves! Registered User regular
    They are resting on the cheek-prongs that all dogs in this universe have.

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    GoatmonGoatmon Companion of Kess Registered User regular
    edited October 2011
    Even if it wasn't pretty clear that the ears are a part of her, the hood makes it kind of obvious, since it's got the same button-up flaps that the troll god tiers get for their horns.

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    GoatmonGoatmon Companion of Kess Registered User regular
    edited October 2011
    Also, after rereading the last couple pages before the flash, I realized I'd completely forgotten that Jade had just completed the genesis frog. Which is now in a volcano. Whoops.

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    ZeroFillZeroFill Feeling much better. A nice, green leaf.Registered User regular
    a very important question yes

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    GoatmonGoatmon Companion of Kess Registered User regular
    edited October 2011
    NeoToma wrote:
    So It's looking like the The Condese is going to go to the human's scratched session and act as AradiaAncestor did for the troll.

    Scratched Earth is gonna be this crazy nightmare ruled by Betty Crocker

    Pretty sure she already did her thing.

    Grandpa Harley and Nanna were terrorized as kids by a crazy witch-like baking baroness who has yet to be named.

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