It wasn't obvious but unless I'm mistaken then Bedlam would be the one to reap the benefits. It was between Ahava and myself and the third place was barely there.
Anomalousvandal helped support the Bedlam for Prince vote.
If Anomalousvandal ends up Sabbat, then I really like the theory that the mafia tried to kill me and failed to put Bedlam, one of their own, in power.
That theory might hold up if I actually wanted to be prince. I honestly want nothing to do with it and you suspecting me is kind of funny. As far as power I only want enough to complete my win condition, which is first and formost defeat the sabbat.
Can I be trusted? Well I am Brujah. Our AT is dead. There was some weirdness with our primogen last night but we have managed to form before he died. Theres probably someone out there who wants me dead anyway so I was hesitant to come out with that information but I have a guard available now.
Thats my cards all on the table. What exactly do we know about Infidel?
No votes trickle. There will be no trickling unless the candidate was ineligible from the beginning
"The only way to get rid of a temptation is to give into it." - Oscar Wilde
"We believe in the people and their 'wisdom' as if there was some special secret entrance to knowledge that barred to anyone who had ever learned anything." - Friedrich Nietzsche
So we have a crazy bandwagon of death for [bold]anomalousvandal[/bold] but I'm not sure for prince. How about...... -flips a coin- (Wait what color do we use for prince vote? Coding wise?)
Alexander walked briskly out of the building. His driver was waiting, and he got into the car.
“Home, Jason.” He said as the man closed the door and walked around to the driver's seat.
“Yes sir.”
The car started and slowly pulled out into the busy street.
Jeff had spent a lot more time recently hanging around Anthony. He wasn't a bad guy, really. A bit of a dumb ass, but definitely not a bad guy to have with you in a fight. Anthony hit like a truck, and especially loved using this old weathered metal pipe. No points, for style, but when he went to work with that thing, people didn't get back up. Tonight, they were cruising for more than just some random bar fight. They were going after bigger fish. Jeff kick-started his bike.
“Anthony! Get your punk ass in gear!”
Anthony turned around from talking to two really dumb looking bitches. Like attracts like, Jeff guessed. Anthony flipped Jeff the bird and went back to talking to the girls. Jeff was getting tired of waiting. With his bike started, he slowly moved the bike forward until he was right next to Anthony and his bike. With a bit of extra strength from the blood, he kicked over Anthony's bike and sent the little punk tumbling to the ground, dragging the bimbos with him. Jeff's bike roared as he took off down the street. Anthony would be pissed, but he'd get over it.
Jeff and Anthony rode their bikes down the quiet street, shattering the silence that the residents craved. It was likely that the cops were already on their way. Jeff hoped that was the case. Cops could at least make something fun. Jeff flashed his headlight to signal Anthony and they turned into a driveway that was barred by a big metal gate. There was a camera that turned to regard the two potential intruders. Some people snuck in to someone's house, but sneaking wasn't Jeff's style. He waved at the camera and killed his engine. He nodded to Anthony and the two of them walked up to the gate, long chains jangling off their leathers. The two of them grabbed on to the bars of the gate, and pulled. With the sound of twisting metal the gate came off its hinges.
Alexander sat in his study. There was a soft knock at the door.
“Come in,” he said.
A tall and thin man came in to the study, looking very worried.
“Nicholas, what is the problem?”
“Sir, two men, they've broken in. They are coming toward the house.”
Alexander didn't panic. He wanted to, but he didn't. It wouldn't do to lose his composure now.
“Send out the security team. If they are insufficient, I will deal with them myself.”
Anthony took a shot in the gut, a large slug. Anthony ran at the man with the gun, taking another shot in his right shoulder. He paid the man back in full when he brought the pipe upward in a long arc. He shattered the man's jaw easily, probably breaking his entire face with the savage blow. The man was lifted off the ground, and went down in a heap a few feet away. He saw Jeff break a man's arm with a slight twist of his wrist as he kicked another man in the gut with enough force to break his spine.
It only took another two minutes to finish off the security guards.
Alexander waited in his study for his assailants. It was sad that it had come to this. So much work, so much life, and nothing to show. Two kindred that likely didn't have as many years between them as Alexander had by himself, and they had even gotten this far. Alexander took his sabre off the mantle, and turned it over in his hands. It had been more than a life time since he had actually used the thing, though he kept it meticulously maintained. He practiced a couple of cuts, and it felt like he had never put the thing down. It seemed that war was upon him again. Just a moment later and the door crashed in.
The one in the lead was shorter than Alexander, but had a long length of metal pipe. He took a wide swing, which Alexander parried quickly, and attempted to counter. The other man was there though, with a long knife. The second man stabbed at Alexander, and he wasn't able to entirely avoid the blow. His skin was not so easily pierced though, and the blade simple scraped along his arm leaving a superficial red line. Alexander shifted his footing, tripping the second man and striking low at the first man. The first man clumsily turned aside Alexander's blow, and because of that Alexander was able to strike him in the jaw with his off hand. Alexander didn't suppose that it slowed the man down much, but he thought it might give him a psychological edge.
Anthony was getting tired of dancing with this piece of shit. The bastard's sword seemed to be everywhere. Giving little nicks and cuts. Anthony kept swinging his pipe over and over at him, but he couldn't get through the man's guard. It was frustrating and Anthony was starting to lose his shit. But then he saw his opening. The man cut from the side, and Anthony saw his chance. He grabbed the sword blade under his left arm, trapping it. He swung with his pipe in his right, crushing the man's shoulder. Anthony completed the victory but using his left arm to squeeze the blade until it snapped. He saw Jeff bury his knife in the man's gut. Anthony hit the man in the back with his pipe when he was doubled over.
Then Jeff and Anthony went to town.
***
Regent Timothy Anders moved in a slow circle. Drawn on the ground, was a figure that barely resembled a circle itself. There were arcane markings all over the chamber, and candles arranged in a seemingly careful pattern. Anders stepped slowly to the north tip of the circle, and spoke three words. There was a hum of power, as Anders turned sharply and took two steps to his right, following the shape of the circle. After his two steps, he picked up a small crystal bell from the ground and rang it twice, speaking another two words. There was a resonant hum, and Anders took two steps backward, ringing the bell again. Then he set the bell down.
Across town, Gregory McAlister sat in the back of the bar. He watched all the people around him, and pretended to take a sip of the beer in front of him. Something was wrong though. He couldn't quite put his finger on it, but he just had a sense that something bad was coming. He couldn't shake it either. He tried to distract himself with people, with drinks, even with a fight he started between two other people. Nothing he did could shake the feeling that something really really terrible was going to happen to him. He kept his eyes peeled, watching for any of his enemies that might come calling. Nothing.
Later that night, Gregory was sitting in the bar when his chest burst, blood shooting out. It sprayed out onto the table, and the people sitting with him.
A woman screamed.
The Dead Anamolousvandal - Hectory Reyes, Lasombra - Publically Executed Infidel - Horatio Alan Bainbridge IV, Malkavian -Killed by living shadow SeGaTai - Ludwig Van Olson, Malkavian - Rip and Tear Corvidae - Alexander Gianelli, Ventrue - Beaten to Death, twice KetBra - Mortimer Schyck, Ventrue - Assassinated WhiteZinfandel - Jennifer Marion, Ventrue - Killed in the blink of an eye
piL is the new Prince
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"We believe in the people and their 'wisdom' as if there was some special secret entrance to knowledge that barred to anyone who had ever learned anything." - Friedrich Nietzsche
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The Dead Retaba – Vincent, Nosferatu – Publically Executed Shiny New Toys – Gregor Hanson, Nosferatu – Killed by living shadow Greeper – Alexandria, Nosferatu Primogen – Rip and Tear
Tayrun – Ian McAlister, Brujah – Face pummeled JaysonFour – Anastasia, Brujah Primogen – Beaten to death
Kime – Bertrand, Gangrel – Bitten by a snake 38thDoe – Reagan, Gangrel – The Prince's Justice
TheCowKing – Lucille Abendroth, Toreador – Rip and Tear Lonelyahava – Katherine McTeague, Toreador – Killed by living shadow
Flarne – Lily Blue-Eyes, Malkavian – Assassinated Peccavi – Rolph, Malkavian – Destroyed by living shadow Langly – Blank, Malkavian – Eviscerated Infidel - Horatio Alan Bainbridge IV, Malkavian -Killed by living shadow SeGaTai - Ludwig Van Olson, Malkavian - Rip and Tear
Jdarksun – Giancarlo Giovanni, Giovanni – Publically Executed Spoit – Vincenzo Giovanni, Giovanni – Assassinated,Beaten to death
Precisionk – Julian Ermont, Ventrue – Beaten to death Void Slayer – Hannah Brown, Ventrue – Heart Exploded Corvidae - Alexander Gianelli, Ventrue - Beaten to Death, twice KetBra - Mortimer Schyck, Ventrue - Assassinated WhiteZinfandel - Jennifer Marion, Ventrue - Killed in the blink of an eye
MrBlarney – Xavier DiBardicot, Tremere – Eviscerated Assuran - Andre LeCoure, Tremere - Heart Exploded Grimmy_TOA – Killian Van Orne, Tremere – Killed in the blink of an eye
Cj Iwakura – Ankahushet, Follower of Set – Beaten to death CaptainPlanet82 – Harrison Fowler, Follower of Set – Eviscerated
Celebrim – Qalim, Assamite – Pummeled to death
MrTlicious – Guts, Brujah AT – Beaten to death Zandracon – Roger, Toreador AT – Heart exploded MrDefecation – Devious, Malkavian AT – Assassinated, Pummeled to death Baidol – Ulian, Tzimisce – Publically Executed Anamolousvandal - Hectory Reyes, Lasombra - Publically Executed
"The only way to get rid of a temptation is to give into it." - Oscar Wilde
"We believe in the people and their 'wisdom' as if there was some special secret entrance to knowledge that barred to anyone who had ever learned anything." - Friedrich Nietzsche
Player List 25 Alive
2. SLyM
3. INANTP
5. Stever777
6. Cayrus
7. Romanqwerty
10. Arivia
12. Moridin889
13. Phyphor
14. Daniant
15. Capfalcon Sir Fabulous
16. The_Anonymous
18. Kay
21. Warban
28. REG Rysk
30. Virgil_Leads_You That Dave Fella
35. Cythraul
36. Wildcat
38. Shalmelo
39. Vagrant_Winds
40. Redasaur
43. Jackisreal
44. Egos
46. Malkor
48. Darian
57. piL
The Dead Retaba – Vincent, Nosferatu – Publically Executed Shiny New Toys – Gregor Hanson, Nosferatu – Killed by living shadow Greeper – Alexandria, Nosferatu Primogen – Rip and Tear
Tayrun – Ian McAlister, Brujah – Face pummeled JaysonFour – Anastasia, Brujah Primogen – Beaten to death bedlam - Gregory McAlistair, Brujah - Heart exploded
Kime – Bertrand, Gangrel – Bitten by a snake 38thDoe – Reagan, Gangrel – The Prince's Justice
TheCowKing – Lucille Abendroth, Toreador – Rip and Tear Lonelyahava – Katherine McTeague, Toreador – Killed by living shadow
Flarne – Lily Blue-Eyes, Malkavian – Assassinated Peccavi – Rolph, Malkavian – Destroyed by living shadow Langly – Blank, Malkavian – Eviscerated Infidel - Horatio Alan Bainbridge IV, Malkavian -Killed by living shadow SeGaTai - Ludwig Van Olson, Malkavian - Rip and Tear
Jdarksun – Giancarlo Giovanni, Giovanni – Publically Executed Spoit – Vincenzo Giovanni, Giovanni – Assassinated,Beaten to death
Precisionk – Julian Ermont, Ventrue – Beaten to death Void Slayer – Hannah Brown, Ventrue – Heart Exploded Corvidae - Alexander Gianelli, Ventrue - Beaten to Death, twice KetBra - Mortimer Schyck, Ventrue - Assassinated WhiteZinfandel - Jennifer Marion, Ventrue - Killed in the blink of an eye
MrBlarney – Xavier DiBardicot, Tremere – Eviscerated Assuran - Andre LeCoure, Tremere - Heart Exploded Grimmy_TOA – Killian Van Orne, Tremere – Killed in the blink of an eye
Cj Iwakura – Ankahushet, Follower of Set – Beaten to death CaptainPlanet82 – Harrison Fowler, Follower of Set – Eviscerated
Celebrim – Qalim, Assamite – Pummeled to death
MrTlicious – Guts, Brujah AT – Beaten to death Zandracon – Roger, Toreador AT – Heart exploded MrDefecation – Devious, Malkavian AT – Assassinated, Pummeled to death Baidol – Ulian, Tzimisce – Publically Executed Anamolousvandal - Hectory Reyes, Lasombra - Publically Executed
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Hey Jayson Four. If your reading this game your getting grudged.
I'm looking forward to the narration for a nosferatu as prince. It's a brave new world. In the meantime, I'm not confident on my leads, so I'll have to think for a bit. And I should have mentioned that I go to work at 4, same story tomorrow, so I'll be unable to post or message any time after that (most likely)
Sorry to put this out early.
Not trying to prevent discussion but before some crazy, pointless BW starts up, I have a definite AT for the vote.
Last in my clan not verified by role PM from the host. Moridin889
Narration has been edited into the death post. For those that wish to read such things.
"The only way to get rid of a temptation is to give into it." - Oscar Wilde
"We believe in the people and their 'wisdom' as if there was some special secret entrance to knowledge that barred to anyone who had ever learned anything." - Friedrich Nietzsche
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Can I be trusted? Well I am Brujah. Our AT is dead. There was some weirdness with our primogen last night but we have managed to form before he died. Theres probably someone out there who wants me dead anyway so I was hesitant to come out with that information but I have a guard available now.
Thats my cards all on the table. What exactly do we know about Infidel?
piL
Posting from my phone with no colors
The prince is a current player
No votes trickle. There will be no trickling unless the candidate was ineligible from the beginning
"We believe in the people and their 'wisdom' as if there was some special secret entrance to knowledge that barred to anyone who had ever learned anything." - Friedrich Nietzsche
...but that's not the same as the cliff statement.
I don't care.
// Switch: SW-5306-0651-6424 //
anomalousvandal and Infidel.
Jackisreal for what it's worth.
I always think you're suspicious.
And last time I was right!
Switch Friend Code: SW-1406-1275-7906
doo doo doo
anomalousvandal
Infi logic. Good logic, or the best logic?
Zithra Melitch in Star Wars: An Empire's End
Jellica in In the Shadow of Zeus
Zithra Melitch in Star Wars: An Empire's End
Jellica in In the Shadow of Zeus
3DS FCode: 1993-7512-8991
“Home, Jason.” He said as the man closed the door and walked around to the driver's seat.
“Yes sir.”
The car started and slowly pulled out into the busy street.
Jeff had spent a lot more time recently hanging around Anthony. He wasn't a bad guy, really. A bit of a dumb ass, but definitely not a bad guy to have with you in a fight. Anthony hit like a truck, and especially loved using this old weathered metal pipe. No points, for style, but when he went to work with that thing, people didn't get back up. Tonight, they were cruising for more than just some random bar fight. They were going after bigger fish. Jeff kick-started his bike.
“Anthony! Get your punk ass in gear!”
Anthony turned around from talking to two really dumb looking bitches. Like attracts like, Jeff guessed. Anthony flipped Jeff the bird and went back to talking to the girls. Jeff was getting tired of waiting. With his bike started, he slowly moved the bike forward until he was right next to Anthony and his bike. With a bit of extra strength from the blood, he kicked over Anthony's bike and sent the little punk tumbling to the ground, dragging the bimbos with him. Jeff's bike roared as he took off down the street. Anthony would be pissed, but he'd get over it.
Jeff and Anthony rode their bikes down the quiet street, shattering the silence that the residents craved. It was likely that the cops were already on their way. Jeff hoped that was the case. Cops could at least make something fun. Jeff flashed his headlight to signal Anthony and they turned into a driveway that was barred by a big metal gate. There was a camera that turned to regard the two potential intruders. Some people snuck in to someone's house, but sneaking wasn't Jeff's style. He waved at the camera and killed his engine. He nodded to Anthony and the two of them walked up to the gate, long chains jangling off their leathers. The two of them grabbed on to the bars of the gate, and pulled. With the sound of twisting metal the gate came off its hinges.
Alexander sat in his study. There was a soft knock at the door.
“Come in,” he said.
A tall and thin man came in to the study, looking very worried.
“Nicholas, what is the problem?”
“Sir, two men, they've broken in. They are coming toward the house.”
Alexander didn't panic. He wanted to, but he didn't. It wouldn't do to lose his composure now.
“Send out the security team. If they are insufficient, I will deal with them myself.”
Anthony took a shot in the gut, a large slug. Anthony ran at the man with the gun, taking another shot in his right shoulder. He paid the man back in full when he brought the pipe upward in a long arc. He shattered the man's jaw easily, probably breaking his entire face with the savage blow. The man was lifted off the ground, and went down in a heap a few feet away. He saw Jeff break a man's arm with a slight twist of his wrist as he kicked another man in the gut with enough force to break his spine.
It only took another two minutes to finish off the security guards.
Alexander waited in his study for his assailants. It was sad that it had come to this. So much work, so much life, and nothing to show. Two kindred that likely didn't have as many years between them as Alexander had by himself, and they had even gotten this far. Alexander took his sabre off the mantle, and turned it over in his hands. It had been more than a life time since he had actually used the thing, though he kept it meticulously maintained. He practiced a couple of cuts, and it felt like he had never put the thing down. It seemed that war was upon him again. Just a moment later and the door crashed in.
The one in the lead was shorter than Alexander, but had a long length of metal pipe. He took a wide swing, which Alexander parried quickly, and attempted to counter. The other man was there though, with a long knife. The second man stabbed at Alexander, and he wasn't able to entirely avoid the blow. His skin was not so easily pierced though, and the blade simple scraped along his arm leaving a superficial red line. Alexander shifted his footing, tripping the second man and striking low at the first man. The first man clumsily turned aside Alexander's blow, and because of that Alexander was able to strike him in the jaw with his off hand. Alexander didn't suppose that it slowed the man down much, but he thought it might give him a psychological edge.
Anthony was getting tired of dancing with this piece of shit. The bastard's sword seemed to be everywhere. Giving little nicks and cuts. Anthony kept swinging his pipe over and over at him, but he couldn't get through the man's guard. It was frustrating and Anthony was starting to lose his shit. But then he saw his opening. The man cut from the side, and Anthony saw his chance. He grabbed the sword blade under his left arm, trapping it. He swung with his pipe in his right, crushing the man's shoulder. Anthony completed the victory but using his left arm to squeeze the blade until it snapped. He saw Jeff bury his knife in the man's gut. Anthony hit the man in the back with his pipe when he was doubled over.
Then Jeff and Anthony went to town.
***
Regent Timothy Anders moved in a slow circle. Drawn on the ground, was a figure that barely resembled a circle itself. There were arcane markings all over the chamber, and candles arranged in a seemingly careful pattern. Anders stepped slowly to the north tip of the circle, and spoke three words. There was a hum of power, as Anders turned sharply and took two steps to his right, following the shape of the circle. After his two steps, he picked up a small crystal bell from the ground and rang it twice, speaking another two words. There was a resonant hum, and Anders took two steps backward, ringing the bell again. Then he set the bell down.
Across town, Gregory McAlister sat in the back of the bar. He watched all the people around him, and pretended to take a sip of the beer in front of him. Something was wrong though. He couldn't quite put his finger on it, but he just had a sense that something bad was coming. He couldn't shake it either. He tried to distract himself with people, with drinks, even with a fight he started between two other people. Nothing he did could shake the feeling that something really really terrible was going to happen to him. He kept his eyes peeled, watching for any of his enemies that might come calling. Nothing.
Later that night, Gregory was sitting in the bar when his chest burst, blood shooting out. It sprayed out onto the table, and the people sitting with him.
A woman screamed.
The Dead
Anamolousvandal - Hectory Reyes, Lasombra - Publically Executed
Infidel - Horatio Alan Bainbridge IV, Malkavian - Killed by living shadow
SeGaTai - Ludwig Van Olson, Malkavian - Rip and Tear
Corvidae - Alexander Gianelli, Ventrue - Beaten to Death, twice
KetBra - Mortimer Schyck, Ventrue - Assassinated
WhiteZinfandel - Jennifer Marion, Ventrue - Killed in the blink of an eye
piL is the new Prince
"We believe in the people and their 'wisdom' as if there was some special secret entrance to knowledge that barred to anyone who had ever learned anything." - Friedrich Nietzsche
Son of a bitch
ooOooO0o0
2. SLyM
3. INANTP
5. Stever777
6. Cayrus
7. Romanqwerty
10. Arivia
12. Moridin889
13. Phyphor
14. Daniant
15. Capfalcon Sir Fabulous
16. The_Anonymous
18. Kay
21. Warban
23. Bedlam
28. REG Rysk
30. Virgil_Leads_You That Dave Fella
35. Cythraul
36. Wildcat
38. Shalmelo
39. Vagrant_Winds
40. Redasaur
43. Jackisreal
44. Egos
46. Malkor
48. Darian
57. piL
The Dead
Retaba – Vincent, Nosferatu – Publically Executed
Shiny New Toys – Gregor Hanson, Nosferatu – Killed by living shadow
Greeper – Alexandria, Nosferatu Primogen – Rip and Tear
Tayrun – Ian McAlister, Brujah – Face pummeled
JaysonFour – Anastasia, Brujah Primogen – Beaten to death
Kime – Bertrand, Gangrel – Bitten by a snake
38thDoe – Reagan, Gangrel – The Prince's Justice
TheCowKing – Lucille Abendroth, Toreador – Rip and Tear
Lonelyahava – Katherine McTeague, Toreador – Killed by living shadow
Flarne – Lily Blue-Eyes, Malkavian – Assassinated
Peccavi – Rolph, Malkavian – Destroyed by living shadow
Langly – Blank, Malkavian – Eviscerated
Infidel - Horatio Alan Bainbridge IV, Malkavian - Killed by living shadow
SeGaTai - Ludwig Van Olson, Malkavian - Rip and Tear
Jdarksun – Giancarlo Giovanni, Giovanni – Publically Executed
Spoit – Vincenzo Giovanni, Giovanni – Assassinated, Beaten to death
Precisionk – Julian Ermont, Ventrue – Beaten to death
Void Slayer – Hannah Brown, Ventrue – Heart Exploded
Corvidae - Alexander Gianelli, Ventrue - Beaten to Death, twice
KetBra - Mortimer Schyck, Ventrue - Assassinated
WhiteZinfandel - Jennifer Marion, Ventrue - Killed in the blink of an eye
MrBlarney – Xavier DiBardicot, Tremere – Eviscerated
Assuran - Andre LeCoure, Tremere - Heart Exploded
Grimmy_TOA – Killian Van Orne, Tremere – Killed in the blink of an eye
Cj Iwakura – Ankahushet, Follower of Set – Beaten to death
CaptainPlanet82 – Harrison Fowler, Follower of Set – Eviscerated
Celebrim – Qalim, Assamite – Pummeled to death
MrTlicious – Guts, Brujah AT – Beaten to death
Zandracon – Roger, Toreador AT – Heart exploded
MrDefecation – Devious, Malkavian AT – Assassinated, Pummeled to death
Baidol – Ulian, Tzimisce – Publically Executed
Anamolousvandal - Hectory Reyes, Lasombra - Publically Executed
piL is the new Prince
you can't kill me
i'm already dead
(do the math)
oooOOOooOOOoooOOOooo
bedlam - Gregory McAlistair, Brujah - Heart exploded
"We believe in the people and their 'wisdom' as if there was some special secret entrance to knowledge that barred to anyone who had ever learned anything." - Friedrich Nietzsche
Well Then
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Infidel, your death will not have been in vain!
I'm looking forward to the narration for a nosferatu as prince. It's a brave new world. In the meantime, I'm not confident on my leads, so I'll have to think for a bit. And I should have mentioned that I go to work at 4, same story tomorrow, so I'll be unable to post or message any time after that (most likely)
Not trying to prevent discussion but before some crazy, pointless BW starts up, I have a definite AT for the vote.
Last in my clan not verified by role PM from the host.
Moridin889
The Black Hole of Cygnus X-1
"We believe in the people and their 'wisdom' as if there was some special secret entrance to knowledge that barred to anyone who had ever learned anything." - Friedrich Nietzsche
Ohhh Jayyyyyson
3DS FCode: 1993-7512-8991
You may run, but you can't hide.
oooOOOooOOOoooOOOooo
3DS FCode: 1993-7512-8991
As we have a Prince we don't need to vote for another one I assume?