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    ronyaronya Arrrrrf. the ivory tower's basementRegistered User regular
    Does anybody have institutional access to this paper

    http://www.jstor.org/pss/27702313

    I would like to confirm my suspicion that systems theory uses negative feedback as a buzzword rather than a mathematical concept

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    LudiousLudious I just wanted a sandwich A temporally dislocated QuiznosRegistered User regular
    Organichu wrote:
    lud are you 350 yet

    363

    down from 450

    I will be 350 by Christmas unless I hit a plateau

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    spool32spool32 Contrary Library Registered User regular
    Once in 2002 I had to stand in the aisle on a transatlantic flight. A giant fat couple took up all three seats - I literally could not sit in the seat without having this dude's fat draped all over me. The flight was full and there were no available jumpseats, so I basically leaned against doors and walked around the plane for maybe 10 hours. It was fucking hellish.

    Continental refunded my flight and upgraded me to 1st class on the return trip though, so it was OK in the end. But holy crap was that horrible.

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    skippydumptruckskippydumptruck begin again Registered User regular
    My problem on a plane is that my shoulders are 16" across from blade to blade. I am taking your arm rest!

    I am also reasonably broad

    I like flying with my wife cause I can mooch off her space

    I do not like sitting next to another large person

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    simonwolfsimonwolf i can feel a difference today, a differenceRegistered User regular
    ronya wrote:
    Does anybody have institutional access to this paper

    http://www.jstor.org/pss/27702313

    I would like to confirm my suspicion that systems theory uses negative feedback as a buzzword rather than a mathematical concept

    Give me a few minutes and I can grab it for you

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    WinkyWinky rRegistered User regular
    My problem on a plane is that my shoulders are 16" across from blade to blade. I am taking your arm rest!

    I hate flying with gorillas.

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    OrganichuOrganichu poops peesRegistered User, Moderator mod
    the longest set of flights I ever had was 27 hours, with layovers

    yeah i had a ridiculous amount too

    the worst is having like a 10 hour layover in a new city but you're on a tight budget and it isn't really worth it to go explore

    fucking sucks

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    MimMim I prefer my lovers… dead.Registered User regular
    the longest set of flights I ever had was 27 hours, with layovers

    I flew from Japan to LA to New York for my great-grandmother's funeral (which I didn't understand because it was in Spanish) and then had to do it in reverse.

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    YamiNoSenshiYamiNoSenshi A point called Z In the complex planeRegistered User regular
    spool32 wrote:
    Once in 2002 I had to stand in the aisle on a transatlantic flight. A giant fat couple took up all three seats - I literally could not sit in the seat without having this dude's fat draped all over me. The flight was full and there were no available jumpseats, so I basically leaned against doors and walked around the plane for maybe 10 hours. It was fucking hellish.

    Continental refunded my flight and upgraded me to 1st class on the return trip though, so it was OK in the end. But holy crap was that horrible.

    Is that even legal, to have a passenger standing the whole flight?

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    ronyaronya Arrrrrf. the ivory tower's basementRegistered User regular
    the longest set of flights I ever had was 27 hours, with layovers

    I've had an 18 hour transit with another 14 hours of combined flight time

    surprisingly it was pretty good because all the sitting awake keeping an eye on my luggage ensured that I was fast asleep on the second leg

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    WinkyWinky rRegistered User regular
    ronya wrote:
    Does anybody have institutional access to this paper

    http://www.jstor.org/pss/27702313

    I would like to confirm my suspicion that systems theory uses negative feedback as a buzzword rather than a mathematical concept

    I should.

    Not loading for me right now, give me a sec.

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    ronyaronya Arrrrrf. the ivory tower's basementRegistered User regular
    spool32 wrote:
    Once in 2002 I had to stand in the aisle on a transatlantic flight. A giant fat couple took up all three seats - I literally could not sit in the seat without having this dude's fat draped all over me. The flight was full and there were no available jumpseats, so I basically leaned against doors and walked around the plane for maybe 10 hours. It was fucking hellish.

    Continental refunded my flight and upgraded me to 1st class on the return trip though, so it was OK in the end. But holy crap was that horrible.

    o_O

    how did this pass pre-flight cabin check

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    SarksusSarksus ATTACK AND DETHRONE GODRegistered User regular
    My school's JSTOR login isn't working.

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    skippydumptruckskippydumptruck begin again Registered User regular
    Mim wrote:
    the longest set of flights I ever had was 27 hours, with layovers

    I flew from Japan to LA to New York for my great-grandmother's funeral (which I didn't understand because it was in Spanish) and then had to do it in reverse.

    mine was southern italy to rome to london to nyc to seattle

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    ThomamelasThomamelas Only one man can kill this many Russians. Bring his guitar to me! Registered User regular
    Ludious wrote:
    Thomamelas wrote:
    Ludious wrote:
    I'd have to be in a reasonable enough frame of mind to do that Thom. I'd have already freaked out and made some rash decision by then.

    Lud, when your fear puts you at risk for cratering your life, then perhaps it's time to ponder professional help. I can understand a fear of flying. My fear of snakes is in that league. But my job doesn't put me at much risk of contact with snakes.
    I have a counselor. I've worked out a lot of stuff and issues, but I just don't see myself dealing with or overcoming the heights thing any time soon.

    Heights is how I learned fear. When I think back it's literally the first thing I remember being afraid of. Before the boogeyman even

    If it puts your job at risk, might be worth adding to the list. Even if you can get some techniques to keep it manageable enough to get drugged and on the flight then it's one less thing to worry about.

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    thehumandignitythehumandignity Registered User regular
    ronya wrote:
    spool32 wrote:
    Once in 2002 I had to stand in the aisle on a transatlantic flight. A giant fat couple took up all three seats - I literally could not sit in the seat without having this dude's fat draped all over me. The flight was full and there were no available jumpseats, so I basically leaned against doors and walked around the plane for maybe 10 hours. It was fucking hellish.

    Continental refunded my flight and upgraded me to 1st class on the return trip though, so it was OK in the end. But holy crap was that horrible.

    o_O

    how did this pass pre-flight cabin check

    Nobody had the nerve to tell him he wouldn't fit in his seat?

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    PodlyPodly you unzipped me! it's all coming back! i don't like it!Registered User regular
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    SparvySparvy Registered User regular
    edited December 2011
    ronya wrote:
    the longest set of flights I ever had was 27 hours, with layovers

    I've had an 18 hour transit with another 14 hours of combined flight time

    surprisingly it was pretty good because all the sitting awake keeping an eye on my luggage ensured that I was fast asleep on the second leg

    Last friday I had 2 hour flight, 18 hour transit, 7 hour flight, 4 hour wait, 7 hour flight.

    I was feeling pretty disgusting by the end

    Sparvy on
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    AbdhyiusAbdhyius Registered User regular
    Organichu wrote:
    i stopped being annoyed by flying when i became more casual about timeframes

    i used to be so fucking paranoid about missing a flight and give domestic flights 2 hours of breathing room, internationals like 3-4 hours

    now i don't

    i show up like an hour before, if that

    ain't never missed a flight

    and the tsa stuff ain't so bad for me

    i just wish philly's airport were closer

    the military gave me great training in waiting

    most of the training I received was waiting

    so having to wait five hours for a connecting flight, no biggie*

    *actually that wasn't bad at all, they serve beer at airports and you're allowed to drink in uniform as long as you don't get drunk

    but really, yeah, an hour before will probably be fine

    although you might want to think about how many other people will be flying

    basically all year, except when I returned after summer leave along with the entire bloody army, I came into an airport practically devoid of people

    but then one day, bam, out of nowhere, the place is fucking packed with people wanting to check in their luggage and I quickly realize that there is absolutely no way I am going to make the flight

    but then a lady came and said "oh, military! Just walk past the line." And so we did. Felt great.

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    ronyaronya Arrrrrf. the ivory tower's basementRegistered User regular
    Sparvy wrote:
    ronya wrote:
    the longest set of flights I ever had was 27 hours, with layovers

    I've had an 18 hour transit with another 14 hours of combined flight time

    surprisingly it was pretty good because all the sitting awake keeping an eye on my luggage ensured that I was fast asleep on the second leg

    Last friday I had 2 hour flight, 18 transit, 7 hour flight, 4 hour wait, 7 hour flight.

    I was feeling pretty disgusting by the end

    where the hell were you flying to

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    DeebaserDeebaser on my way to work in a suit and a tie Ahhhh...come on fucking guyRegistered User regular
    My problem on a plane is that my shoulders are 16" across from blade to blade. I am taking your arm rest!

    I am also reasonably broad

    I like flying with my wife cause I can mooch off her space

    I do not like sitting next to another large person

    Protip:
    --Next flight you take the window, book her the aisle.
    --Board early and make passive aggressive comments to each other constantly before someone takes the middle seat.
    --unless the flight is booked solid, that seat will be free at takeoff

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    WinkyWinky rRegistered User regular
    Huh, I don't seem to have access sorry ronya. I guess UIC doesn't have full access to JSTOR?

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    RonaldoTheGypsyRonaldoTheGypsy Yes, yes Registered User regular
    Well, I watched that hotspring clip, about halfway, until they were in undies, closed youtube, closed firefox, went and got the bottle of morgan in the freezer, drank all of it, went outside, stopped a car in the street, dragged the driver out of the car and punched him to death, walked back into the house, burned all my clothing and I am back.

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    PantsBPantsB Fake Thomas Jefferson Registered User regular
    edited December 2011
    My problem on a plane is that my shoulders are 16" across from blade to blade. I am taking your arm rest!
    Is that a lot? Now you've got me trying to fucking measure this subtly at work
    Winky wrote:
    I hate flying with gorillas.

    'cism

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    SparvySparvy Registered User regular
    ronya wrote:
    Sparvy wrote:
    ronya wrote:
    the longest set of flights I ever had was 27 hours, with layovers

    I've had an 18 hour transit with another 14 hours of combined flight time

    surprisingly it was pretty good because all the sitting awake keeping an eye on my luggage ensured that I was fast asleep on the second leg

    Last friday I had 2 hour flight, 18 transit, 7 hour flight, 4 hour wait, 7 hour flight.

    I was feeling pretty disgusting by the end

    where the hell were you flying to
    Bali -> Singapore (where I stayed 18 hours, did some shopping though so it wasn't that bad) -> Doha (Qatar) -> Stockholm

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    skippydumptruckskippydumptruck begin again Registered User regular
    Deebaser wrote:
    My problem on a plane is that my shoulders are 16" across from blade to blade. I am taking your arm rest!

    I am also reasonably broad

    I like flying with my wife cause I can mooch off her space

    I do not like sitting next to another large person

    Protip:
    --Next flight you take the window, book her the aisle.
    --Board early and make passive aggressive comments to each other constantly before someone takes the middle seat.
    --unless the flight is booked solid, that seat will be free at takeoff

    what if this backfires and I don't get to mooch of her space because someone sits between us

    or what if we get into an actual fight

    this plan is riddled with flaws

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    LudiousLudious I just wanted a sandwich A temporally dislocated QuiznosRegistered User regular
    Well, I watched that hotspring clip, about halfway, until they were in undies, closed youtube, closed firefox, went and got the bottle of morgan in the freezer, drank all of it, went outside, stopped a car in the street, dragged the driver out of the car and punched him to death, walked back into the house, burned all my clothing and I am back.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VSRShnbiHYo

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    thehumandignitythehumandignity Registered User regular
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    skippydumptruckskippydumptruck begin again Registered User regular
    a few weeks ago I got drunk with some friends and we were measuring our heights relative to our wingspans

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    WinkyWinky rRegistered User regular
    Deebaser wrote:
    My problem on a plane is that my shoulders are 16" across from blade to blade. I am taking your arm rest!

    I am also reasonably broad

    I like flying with my wife cause I can mooch off her space

    I do not like sitting next to another large person

    Protip:
    --Next flight you take the window, book her the aisle.
    --Board early and make passive aggressive comments to each other constantly before someone takes the middle seat.
    --unless the flight is booked solid, that seat will be free at takeoff

    i want to post that siri video

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    AbdhyiusAbdhyius Registered User regular
    Deebaser wrote:
    My problem on a plane is that my shoulders are 16" across from blade to blade. I am taking your arm rest!

    I am also reasonably broad

    I like flying with my wife cause I can mooch off her space

    I do not like sitting next to another large person

    Protip:
    --Next flight you take the window, book her the aisle.
    --Board early and make passive aggressive comments to each other constantly before someone takes the middle seat.
    --unless the flight is booked solid, that seat will be free at takeoff

    what if this backfires and I don't get to mooch of her space because someone sits between us

    or what if we get into an actual fight

    this plan is riddled with flaws

    book three seats

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    WinkyWinky rRegistered User regular
    a few weeks ago I got drunk with some friends and we were measuring our heights relative to our wingspans

    Dick measuring contest eh?

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    ronyaronya Arrrrrf. the ivory tower's basementRegistered User regular
    Winky wrote:
    Huh, I don't seem to have access sorry ronya. I guess UIC doesn't have full access to JSTOR?

    yeah it seems hard to get

    thanks for trying though

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    spool32spool32 Contrary Library Registered User regular
    spool32 wrote:
    Once in 2002 I had to stand in the aisle on a transatlantic flight. A giant fat couple took up all three seats - I literally could not sit in the seat without having this dude's fat draped all over me. The flight was full and there were no available jumpseats, so I basically leaned against doors and walked around the plane for maybe 10 hours. It was fucking hellish.

    Continental refunded my flight and upgraded me to 1st class on the return trip though, so it was OK in the end. But holy crap was that horrible.

    Is that even legal, to have a passenger standing the whole flight?

    No, and the flight attendants were pretty dickish about it at first, but I just walked one a bit down the aisle and pointed at the half-consumed seat with the giant guy flopped all over it, and the fact that it was solid flesh from him to the window, and they backed off.

    I had to squeeze in for takeoff and landing, but that was it.

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    PantsBPantsB Fake Thomas Jefferson Registered User regular
    a few weeks ago I got drunk with some friends and we were measuring our heights relative to our wingspans

    See my limbs are incredibly short for my height (6' vs like 28# inseam or something) but my shoulders are pretty damn broad so I have no idea.

    Using 8x11 paper I'm thinking like 20inch shoulder to shoulder but its less accurate than using centiSmoots

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    GalahadGalahad Registered User regular
    Longest flight I've done was Houston to Jakarta when I was a kid. I lucked out and ended up sitting next to a pretty awesome exchange student who was heading home after the stopover in Hawaii. The total trip was 20 something-ish hours.

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    Donkey KongDonkey Kong Putting Nintendo out of business with AI nips Registered User regular
    There is one airline, I think Southwest, where you can claim their person of size policy. You book two seats and unless they would have sold your seat, you don't pay. Not a bad deal for fatties!

    Thousands of hot, local singles are waiting to play at bubbulon.com.
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    ronyaronya Arrrrrf. the ivory tower's basementRegistered User regular
    Sparvy wrote:
    ronya wrote:
    Sparvy wrote:
    ronya wrote:
    the longest set of flights I ever had was 27 hours, with layovers

    I've had an 18 hour transit with another 14 hours of combined flight time

    surprisingly it was pretty good because all the sitting awake keeping an eye on my luggage ensured that I was fast asleep on the second leg

    Last friday I had 2 hour flight, 18 transit, 7 hour flight, 4 hour wait, 7 hour flight.

    I was feeling pretty disgusting by the end

    where the hell were you flying to
    Bali -> Singapore (where I stayed 18 hours, did some shopping though so it wasn't that bad) -> Doha (Qatar) -> Stockholm

    oh

    yeah, that sucks. For Changi I think you can cheaply store your luggage and then have a nap somewhere, at least that's what I'd do. Doha airport is kinda old though.

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    VariableVariable Mouth Congress Stroke Me Lady FameRegistered User regular
    Podly wrote:

    watched that last night, he's excellent.

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