in fallout 2 i would deal with pickpockets in the den by giving all my stuff to sulik except for some dynamite on a timer, then run around letting them steal those from me
five minutes later the city was filled with the simultaneous echoing booms of exploding orphans
I feel like I should be in someway punished for executing those German POW's in Call of Duty who in the breifing immediately before were explained to be composed of underage boys and old men.
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I'd be amused, if it wasn't for the fact that this bullshit debate is actually taking time/money away from the real work that the RC is supposed to be doing. That the topic was even broached is a clear indication that the Red Cross has more spare time and extra cash than it needs.
Seriously Red Cross - shouldn't you be out there sewing back on an orphan's leg or saving a village from torrential floods instead of bitching about violence in video games? Isn't flogging a dead horse a violation of humanitarian law?
It will be a nice age when every group of people has at least one member who has actually played a video game and knows the whole "murder simulator" thing is bunk.
whenever they gave you the big .50 caliber machine guns in world at war I would aim exclusively for the enemy's kneecaps in the hopes of shooting their legs off
I would use the flamethrower to its fullest extent whenever it was available
if the enemy ever fled I'd shoot them in the back and if they surrendered I would also shoot them
to be fair, the japanese deserved all the above for their machine gunners with infinite ammunition and bulletproof steel heads
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Ubikoh pete, that's later. maybe we'll be dead by thenRegistered Userregular
they're not even trying to dispel the notion that International law is a big joke
The best part of Rise of Nations was nuking the enemy's cities
Last time I played MoO2 I callously bombarded entire planets of innocent ant-people and rock people and brainy people and machine people until nothing was left. I used nukes, biological, and chemical weapons, as well as weapons for which we have no easily defined terms, with wild abandon.
These weren't people dying, they were numbers on a page. Mere statistics.
When that got to be boring and the reports too long to read, I started just ordering the planets be blown up.
I still got reports, but instead of billions of deaths, it just listed planets I had ordered removed from existence.
Far more efficient.
Well, going to a game series I know a fair amount about:
Mass Effect 1, off top of head, things that could piss people off:
Punching an unarmed civilian. (Manuel)
Killing people fighting against their will due to the effects of a mind-control attack (borderline, but hey!)
Executing Shiala, a nonresisting person who had surrendered.
Ordering an execution on a hostile squad member who had not yet opened fire.
Executing Rana Thanoptis, a non-hostile noncombatant.
Colonist: Ordering a hit on a traumatized victim of slavery under the shaky "She's a danger to others" justification.
Earthborn: Gunning down an attempted blackmailer.
Shooting a scientist who was being held hostage. (Toombs plot)
Committing genocide on an alien species that was not currently hostile (rachni queen).
Talking an enemy combatant into committing suicide (Saren).
Mass Effect 2, off top of head:
Handing a traumatized civilian over to a known terrorist agency for enhanced interrogation. (Veetor)
Denying treatment to dying man (Mordin Ac)
Gunning down criminals who had agreed to a cease-fire (Batarians, Mordin Ac)
Gunning down looters (Mordin Ac)
Allowing a hostage to get killed (Mordin Ac)
Murdering a hostile noncombatant outside of a combat area ("You're working too hard")
Having to kill what amount to child soldiers (test-bred krogan, Grunt Ac)
Attempting to recruit a war criminal (Grunt Ac)
Gunning down scared woman who is only dubiously threatening you and is not evil based on available evidence (Samara Ac)
Denying treatment to dying man (Thane Ac)
Presentation of sex slavery (although not with player consent/approval) (Jacob Loyalty)
Presentation of eugenics (although not with player consent/approval) (Miranda Loyalty)
Murder of enemy soldier outside of combat (Miranda Loyalty)
Allowing associate to murder unarmed civilian (Miranda Loyalty)
Allowing associate to torture unarmed victim for information (Garrus Loyalty)
Allowing associate to murder unarmed civilian (Garrus Loyalty)
Allowing associate to murder unarmed civilian (Mordin Loyalty)
Condoning genocide by destroying potential sterility plague cure (Mordin Loyalty)
Condoning war crimes by keeping data obtained through torture (Mordin Loyalty)
Condoning torture and experimentation on synthetic life forms (Tali Loyalty)
Condoning brainwashing of entire culture (Legion Loyalty)
Allowing associate to torture unarmed victim for information (Thane Loyalty)
Siding with a serial killer over a law enforcement official (Samara Loyalty)
Ordering associate to murder unarmed civilian (Jack Loyalty)
Allowing associate to cause deaths of innocent civilians (Zaeed Loyalty)
I bet if I whipped up a quick 9/11 game and postdated the website to like 1 year before 9/11 and sent the link to the various media places they would EAT that shit up. My servers would probably crash due to the intense overload of people who "have to see it to believe it."
I don't get why they felt the need to invent Nova-6 for call of duty: black ops
it's slow-moving, slow-acting, apparently easy to recover from, it gets stopped by gas masks and apparently doesn't work by contact at all, and it's a thick, easily spotted fog
they could have just used VX and the game would've been over by the second mission
I wish somebody made a Moo2 without all the dumb hundreds of colony improvements. Like right now I'd rather play MoO1 than MoO2 I guess.
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Oh, man.
X-Com is going to be the death of me, isn't it?
Multiple counts of genocide, killing unarmed combatants, illegal arms deals, drug running, using military force against civilian targets, use of WMDs, creation of unlicensed WMDs, biological warfare, chemical warfare, massive ecological damage, letting civvies die horrible, horrible deaths to avoid risking my own troops, production of biological and chemical weapons, use of chemical and biological weapons on fleeing enemy combatants and non-combatants...
Yeah this came up days ago and it's been settled since. The Red Cross isn't going to be going after gamers or any such nonsense. They just want developers to make games that more adhere to the "rules of war". Which in itself is a giant crock of shit, but this is the same organization that can go to a concentration camp and declare everything A -Ok.
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ArtreusI'm a wizardAnd that looks fucked upRegistered Userregular
Yeah has anybody actually read the article?
Also all they have done is said they are going to formally discuss it. It does not mean you are all going to get charged with war crimes by them. They are just like "oh hey this is a new medium, let us see if it is maybe affecting attitudes towards war and the things that happen in it"
Besides in all my fighting against Nazis and Russian nationalist extremists, none of them have tried to surrender. In fact they don't even stop firing after I'm dead so I'm pretty sure I well within my right to slaughter half the German Reich/new Soviet Union without violating the Geneva Convention. And if somehow fantasy or scifi universes that don't even exist except in a digital medium are covered as well, I reserve the right to go to Switzerland and attach a car battery to someone's nads until they recognize the difference between real-life and the imaginary.
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holy shit when do I get my four hundred congressional medal of honors?
and do I get to paint my kills on my car or just on my controller?
I don't know what reward a person would get for saving all organic life in the galaxy like a dozen times, but I want it
Sarkozy, lookin' at you
I don't see how that even comes close to a violation of those conventions
Seriously Red Cross - shouldn't you be out there sewing back on an orphan's leg or saving a village from torrential floods instead of bitching about violence in video games? Isn't flogging a dead horse a violation of humanitarian law?
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I do this all the time with bows and arrows in Skyrim
I call it Boromiring
God damn it is my right as an American to not stand for the injustices brought to me by the AI of this racially biased computer entertainment system!
I would use the flamethrower to its fullest extent whenever it was available
if the enemy ever fled I'd shoot them in the back and if they surrendered I would also shoot them
to be fair, the japanese deserved all the above for their machine gunners with infinite ammunition and bulletproof steel heads
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if anybody cared about pokemon cruelty, you wouldn't be allowed to make them fight each other in the first place
These weren't people dying, they were numbers on a page. Mere statistics.
When that got to be boring and the reports too long to read, I started just ordering the planets be blown up.
I still got reports, but instead of billions of deaths, it just listed planets I had ordered removed from existence.
Far more efficient.
If so that's awesome because you could rebuild that planet.
Mass Effect 1, off top of head, things that could piss people off:
Killing people fighting against their will due to the effects of a mind-control attack (borderline, but hey!)
Executing Shiala, a nonresisting person who had surrendered.
Ordering an execution on a hostile squad member who had not yet opened fire.
Executing Rana Thanoptis, a non-hostile noncombatant.
Colonist: Ordering a hit on a traumatized victim of slavery under the shaky "She's a danger to others" justification.
Earthborn: Gunning down an attempted blackmailer.
Shooting a scientist who was being held hostage. (Toombs plot)
Committing genocide on an alien species that was not currently hostile (rachni queen).
Talking an enemy combatant into committing suicide (Saren).
Mass Effect 2, off top of head:
Denying treatment to dying man (Mordin Ac)
Gunning down criminals who had agreed to a cease-fire (Batarians, Mordin Ac)
Gunning down looters (Mordin Ac)
Allowing a hostage to get killed (Mordin Ac)
Murdering a hostile noncombatant outside of a combat area ("You're working too hard")
Having to kill what amount to child soldiers (test-bred krogan, Grunt Ac)
Attempting to recruit a war criminal (Grunt Ac)
Gunning down scared woman who is only dubiously threatening you and is not evil based on available evidence (Samara Ac)
Denying treatment to dying man (Thane Ac)
Presentation of sex slavery (although not with player consent/approval) (Jacob Loyalty)
Presentation of eugenics (although not with player consent/approval) (Miranda Loyalty)
Murder of enemy soldier outside of combat (Miranda Loyalty)
Allowing associate to murder unarmed civilian (Miranda Loyalty)
Allowing associate to torture unarmed victim for information (Garrus Loyalty)
Allowing associate to murder unarmed civilian (Garrus Loyalty)
Allowing associate to murder unarmed civilian (Mordin Loyalty)
Condoning genocide by destroying potential sterility plague cure (Mordin Loyalty)
Condoning war crimes by keeping data obtained through torture (Mordin Loyalty)
Condoning torture and experimentation on synthetic life forms (Tali Loyalty)
Condoning brainwashing of entire culture (Legion Loyalty)
Allowing associate to torture unarmed victim for information (Thane Loyalty)
Siding with a serial killer over a law enforcement official (Samara Loyalty)
Ordering associate to murder unarmed civilian (Jack Loyalty)
Allowing associate to cause deaths of innocent civilians (Zaeed Loyalty)
That's... wow, actually.
it's slow-moving, slow-acting, apparently easy to recover from, it gets stopped by gas masks and apparently doesn't work by contact at all, and it's a thick, easily spotted fog
they could have just used VX and the game would've been over by the second mission
I'm going to be in so much trouble when they find out what I've been doing in Civilization 5.
"What's that, puny enemy nation that I wouldn't bother with otherwise? You're getting support from my mortal enemy? Here, have this nuke. BAM!".
Yeah, it did.
X-Com is going to be the death of me, isn't it?
Multiple counts of genocide, killing unarmed combatants, illegal arms deals, drug running, using military force against civilian targets, use of WMDs, creation of unlicensed WMDs, biological warfare, chemical warfare, massive ecological damage, letting civvies die horrible, horrible deaths to avoid risking my own troops, production of biological and chemical weapons, use of chemical and biological weapons on fleeing enemy combatants and non-combatants...
I love X-Com so much you guys.
Why I fear the ocean.
I better delete my saves.
Also all they have done is said they are going to formally discuss it. It does not mean you are all going to get charged with war crimes by them. They are just like "oh hey this is a new medium, let us see if it is maybe affecting attitudes towards war and the things that happen in it"
Think there were also some potential war crimes in Bring Down the Sky, if we're counting DLC.
And man, the Arrival...
Why I fear the ocean.
The real war crime would have been letting them live