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Mother 3: It's never coming out in America, cry more.

Xenogears of BoreXenogears of Bore Registered User regular
Mother 3, and to a lesser extent, the Mother 1+2 compilation have been sore spots on the western gamer for a number of years now. Back in the halycon days when Mother 3 was a glint in the N64 Disk Drive's eye, Nintendo Power covered the shit out of it. As it slowly slipped platform, it's western coverage slipped to. Then the very vocal Earthbound/Mother fanbase started complaining. Letter writing, internet petitions, you name it. Now, it has become a bit more serious.

From ye olde Silconera

http://www.siliconera.com/2007/06/28/earthbound-fans-don’t-quit-they-demand-mother-3/
Silconera wrote:
The collective community of Mother/Earthbound fans at Starmen.net banded together to launch a campaign to bring Mother 3 outside of Japan. For the past few weeks members have been mailing envelopes to Nintendo with Earthbound fan art, circulating Earthbound propaganda posters on the internet and organized a flood of phone calls to Nintendo requesting a new Mother game. I admire the amount of passion the fans over at Starmen have for the Earthbound series and their clever timing. They started the campaign on May 13, 2007… Mothers Day!



This isn’t slacktivism with an online petition that no one will care about, it’s activism. Will Nintendo hear their cries and see an open market for a Nintendo DS port of Mother 3? For all the fervent Earthbound fans out there, I sure hope so!

I have always believed that Mother 3 was in our future. I think that if this really takes off Nintendo will finally relent. Still, good for the fanbase to try something a bit more conventional.

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  • ROFISHROFISH Registered User
    Seta 3000 wrote: »
    Starmen.net has a donation drive thing going right now. They've at about $6000, at this point, and are going to use it in the next phase of their plan. They've apparently got something awesome in the works, but the only way to find out what it is ... is to donate.

    I know one of the Starmen.net dudes, and I know someone that donated, and they both say it is really rad what they've got in store.

    It is rad. :D And you haven't seen nothing yet. That $6000 is going to good use.

    Do us all a favor and buy Earthbound for the Virtual Console when it comes out. A little birdy told me that this is our very last chance. (There were other chances, but you wouldn't believe them if I told you.)

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  • BahamutZEROBahamutZERO WHY HAVE YOU SUMMONED ME? Registered User regular
    ROFISH wrote: »
    Seta 3000 wrote: »
    Starmen.net has a donation drive thing going right now. They've at about $6000, at this point, and are going to use it in the next phase of their plan. They've apparently got something awesome in the works, but the only way to find out what it is ... is to donate.

    I know one of the Starmen.net dudes, and I know someone that donated, and they both say it is really rad what they've got in store.

    It is rad. :D And you haven't seen nothing yet. That $6000 is going to good use.

    Do us all a favor and buy Earthbound for the Virtual Console when it comes out. A little birdy told me that this is our very last chance. (There were other chances, but you wouldn't believe them if I told you.)
    Tell us anyway.

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  • MashalotMashalot Registered User
    For real.

  • ROFISHROFISH Registered User
    There's a few problems with going public with some of our ideas. Don't worry though, because we'll always tell you in the end. (BTW, that's from the time when we could've bought the beta N64 Mother 3.)

    But do buy EB on VC. I can't blindly parrot it enough. ;)

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  • RedMageDarionRedMageDarion Registered User
    ROFISH wrote: »
    But do buy EB on VC. I can't blindly parrot it enough. ;)
    There's no reason to not listen to this man.

    I mean, even IF buying does nothing to help the chances of Mother 3 getting localized, you've still got Earthbound on the VC.

    Seriously. It's a win/not-quite-AS-win-but-still-win situation.

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  • Jam WarriorJam Warrior Registered User regular
    ROFISH wrote: »
    There's a few problems with going public with some of our ideas. Don't worry though, because we'll always tell you in the end. (BTW, that's from the time when we could've bought the beta N64 Mother 3.)

    But do buy EB on VC. I can't blindly parrot it enough. ;)

    I will if Nintendo will let me...

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  • hambonehambone Registered User
    I think it's funny that Nintendo has more faith in exporting Tingle's Rosy Rupeeland than Mother 3.


    And by funny I mean fucked up and sad.

    Just a bunch of intoxicated pigeons.
  • JimothyJimothy Registered User regular
    Well, it is a Zelda spin-off. Mother doesn't really have that (though I guess it's connection to Smash Bros. is similar).

    But stop talking smack about Tingle's game. It will be an awesome adventure in capitalism.

  • SirUltimosSirUltimos Don't talk, Rusty. Just paint. Registered User regular
    It seems almost like Nintendo is purposely trying to spite the Earthbound fanbase by withholding the games. I remember I once read an interview with the NoA localization team where they laughed very heartily at the efforts of the Starman.net community and started calling them crazy and how they wish they could spite them...

    But frankly, I think they should release the games on the DS. It's a Nintendo made game on the DS so it's not gonna fail. and it'll give the fans what they want.

  • Xenogears of BoreXenogears of Bore Registered User regular
    So then, any news on when this "Last Chance" is supposed to drop?

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  • SheepSheep Registered User, __BANNED USERS
    I know one of the Starmen.net dudes, and I know someone that donated, and they both say it is really rad what they've got in store.

    I've seen it myself, or at least part of their grand plan. What I've seen will only appeal to die hards. But I could just be not looking hard enough. I dunno.
    The GBA isn't completely dead yet, and the game has only been out for a year or so.

    Can't really infringe on something that isn't even on the market.

    I just want an answer, honestly. A "Yes, it's gonna happen" ideally, but I'll accept a, "No, it won't". Regardless, our anxiety will be put to an end.

    I called Nintendo. They asked my information, and kindly told me that they would be forwarding my statement over to the department that handles those types of things. The guy I talked with didn't seem to knowledgeable about the series, but did remark that they've gotten a fuck ton of correspondence about the game.

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  • CouscousCouscous Registered User regular
    SirUltimos wrote: »
    It seems almost like Nintendo is purposely trying to spite the Earthbound fanbase by withholding the games. I remember I once read an interview with the NoA localization team where they laughed very heartily at the efforts of the Starman.net community and started calling them crazy and how they wish they could spite them...

    People in the upper part of the hierarchy at Nintendo have also noted how much stuff they get from fans of Earthbound.

  • EtericEteric Registered User
    Earthbound fans are truely the craziest of all game fanbases... Ever.

    With that said, how can I help? :D

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  • skeldareskeldare Maaaaariooooooooo? Gresham, ORRegistered User regular
    Sleep wrote: »
    I called Nintendo. They asked my information, and kindly told me that they would be forwarding my statement over to the department that handles those types of things. The guy I talked with didn't seem to knowledgeable about the series, but did remark that they've gotten a fuck ton of correspondence about the game.
    You talked to a desk monkey. They know nothing beyond what they're trained on. They certainly wouldn't know anything about Mother.

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  • randombattlerandombattle Registered User
    To this day I still cannot figure out why Mother 3 never came out here.

    They said they were localizing it before and then just dropped it forever and refused to do anything with it at all. They must know it would also print money but they just don't seem to care.

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  • ZekZek Registered User regular
    If you look up "cult following" in the dictionary, you'll see a link to Starmen.net. Those guys are fucking hardcore about Earthbound. They'll be petitioning for years if they have to.

    I think it's unlikely that Nintendo will localize it at this point. Selling to the entire Earthbound fanbase probably isn't enough to justify the expenses of translating a GBA game at this point. It really is extremely niche.

  • agoajagoaj Registered User regular
    ROFISH wrote: »
    Seta 3000 wrote: »
    Starmen.net has a donation drive thing going right now. They've at about $6000, at this point, and are going to use it in the next phase of their plan. They've apparently got something awesome in the works, but the only way to find out what it is ... is to donate.

    I know one of the Starmen.net dudes, and I know someone that donated, and they both say it is really rad what they've got in store.

    It is rad. :D And you haven't seen nothing yet. That $6000 is going to good use.

    Do us all a favor and buy Earthbound for the Virtual Console when it comes out. A little birdy told me that this is our very last chance. (There were other chances, but you wouldn't believe them if I told you.)

    Sounds like a bad Kenan and Kel sketch.

  • randombattlerandombattle Registered User
    Zek wrote: »
    If you look up "cult following" in the dictionary, you'll see a link to Starmen.net. Those guys are fucking hardcore about Earthbound. They'll be petitioning for years if they have to.

    I think it's unlikely that Nintendo will localize it at this point. Selling to the entire Earthbound fanbase probably isn't enough to justify the expenses of translating a GBA game at this point. It really is extremely niche.

    They could make tons of money if they were smart about it.

    Package Earthbound in with it, add touch screen controls to both games, and sell it on the DS for like 40$. You can't tell me that an earthbound 1/2 package would not sell gobs.

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  • cj iwakuracj iwakura The Rhythm Rogue Coral Springs, FLRegistered User regular
    They'd never do that, because they'd lose money. Earthbound DS alone would make enough for it to justify it as a solo release.

    I think the main problem is that the original wasn't a big success, so they're reluctant to give it another try.

  • skeldareskeldare Maaaaariooooooooo? Gresham, ORRegistered User regular
    Zek wrote: »
    If you look up "cult following" in the dictionary, you'll see a link to Starmen.net. Those guys are fucking hardcore about Earthbound. They'll be petitioning for years if they have to.

    I think it's unlikely that Nintendo will localize it at this point. Selling to the entire Earthbound fanbase probably isn't enough to justify the expenses of translating a GBA game at this point. It really is extremely niche.

    They could make tons of money if they were smart about it.

    Package Earthbound in with it, add touch screen controls to both games, and sell it on the DS for like 40$. You can't tell me that an earthbound 1/2 package would not sell gobs.
    Unfortunately, being a cult favorite and a (relatively) unknown license probably won't help. :(

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  • agoajagoaj Registered User regular
    I hear the DS can play GBA games.
    Don't quote me on it though.

  • SheepSheep Registered User, __BANNED USERS
    Zek wrote: »
    If you look up "cult following" in the dictionary, you'll see a link to Starmen.net. Those guys are fucking hardcore about Earthbound. They'll be petitioning for years if they have to.

    I think it's unlikely that Nintendo will localize it at this point. Selling to the entire Earthbound fanbase probably isn't enough to justify the expenses of translating a GBA game at this point. It really is extremely niche.

    Not quite as niche as Fire Emblem. Looked what happened there.

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  • ROFISHROFISH Registered User
    Eteric wrote: »
    Earthbound fans are truely the craziest of all game fanbases... Ever.

    With that said, how can I help? :D

    http://starmen.net - Instructions are right in the front.

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  • chaossoldierchaossoldier Registered User
    Sleep wrote: »
    Zek wrote: »
    If you look up "cult following" in the dictionary, you'll see a link to Starmen.net. Those guys are fucking hardcore about Earthbound. They'll be petitioning for years if they have to.

    I think it's unlikely that Nintendo will localize it at this point. Selling to the entire Earthbound fanbase probably isn't enough to justify the expenses of translating a GBA game at this point. It really is extremely niche.

    Not quite as niche as Fire Emblem. Looked what happened there.

    Fire Emblem has an American fanbase?

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  • ZekZek Registered User regular
    Sleep wrote: »
    Zek wrote: »
    If you look up "cult following" in the dictionary, you'll see a link to Starmen.net. Those guys are fucking hardcore about Earthbound. They'll be petitioning for years if they have to.

    I think it's unlikely that Nintendo will localize it at this point. Selling to the entire Earthbound fanbase probably isn't enough to justify the expenses of translating a GBA game at this point. It really is extremely niche.

    Not quite as niche as Fire Emblem. Looked what happened there.

    The main issue is that we're talking about a GBA game. Even back when it came out in Japan, translating an RPG isn't a fast job and by the time they could have released it for the states it would have been very late in the GBA's life cycle. Now it's pretty much out of the question.

    If anything comes out of this, the most likely would be a trilogy compilation or something for the DS.

  • ROFISHROFISH Registered User
    Mother 3 on VC would rock too.

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  • skeldareskeldare Maaaaariooooooooo? Gresham, ORRegistered User regular
    ROFISH wrote: »
    Mother 3 on VC would rock too.
    GBA games in general would.

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  • DVGDVG Registered User regular
    Don't be so quick to say it'll never happen. This sort of campaign got Jericho uncanceled, although some focus and some manner of others getting in on the campaign would be good.

    I'd donate to a mother 3 campaign.

    EDIT: I see a spoke too soon. Time to print out a post card.

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  • skeldareskeldare Maaaaariooooooooo? Gresham, ORRegistered User regular
    DVG wrote: »
    Don't be so quick to say it'll never happen. This sort of campaign got Jericho uncanceled, although some focus and some manner of others getting in on the campaign would be good.

    I'd donate to a mother 3 campaign.
    Apples and oranges. :...:

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  • harvestharvest Registered User regular
    This thread makes me angry, and then sad. Excuse me while I weep softly.

    /weep.

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  • DVGDVG Registered User regular
    skeldare wrote: »
    Apples and oranges. :...:

    I'm going to try to resist making an Apple Kid and Orange Kid joke.

    In any case, not really. Both involve trying to convince a corporation to produce/release some content you want under the promise of it being a profitable venture.

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  • skeldareskeldare Maaaaariooooooooo? Gresham, ORRegistered User regular
    DVG wrote: »
    skeldare wrote: »
    Apples and oranges. :...:

    I'm going to try to resist making an Apple Kid and Orange Kid joke.

    In any case, not really. Both involve trying to convince a corporation to produce/release some content you want under the promise of it being a profitable venture.
    Fine :P

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  • ÆthelredÆthelred Registered User
    So there's a huge hardcore community for this game. A game which is out in Japan and can be imported region-free. They are working on a translation, right? It's not like it would take forever. :?

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  • Xenogears of BoreXenogears of Bore Registered User regular
    So there's a huge hardcore community for this game. A game which is out in Japan and can be imported region-free. They are working on a translation, right? It's not like it would take forever. :?

    While I'm sure the various translation projects of Mother 3 are going to be good there is nothing quite like playing a professionally translated game.

    I've played a lot of games that are fan translated and watched a ton of fansubbed anime, and usually when I play/see the localized efforts they are usually just better. Cleaner, less errors, and usually a hell of a lot less literal. I can only think of maybe one game out of dozens where I preferred the fan translation.

    In other words, while I respect anyone taking the time to translate the game, I think that this other method of convincing Nintendo will probably be more successful in the long run.

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  • ronzoronzo Registered User regular
    So there's a huge hardcore community for this game. A game which is out in Japan and can be imported region-free. They are working on a translation, right? It's not like it would take forever. :?

    While I'm sure the various translation projects of Mother 3 are going to be good there is nothing quite like playing a professionally translated game.

    I've played a lot of games that are fan translated and watched a ton of fansubbed anime, and usually when I play/see the localized efforts they are usually just better. Cleaner, less errors, and usually a hell of a lot less literal. I can only think of maybe one game out of dozens where I preferred the fan translation.

    In other words, while I respect anyone taking the time to translate the game, I think that this other method of convincing Nintendo will probably be more successful in the long run.

    Plus, if nintendo puts it out, and it does rather well, they may see the point in making even more mother/earthbound games.

    Also, if they took the chance on Elite Beat agents, why not this?

  • chaossoldierchaossoldier Registered User
    ronzo wrote: »
    So there's a huge hardcore community for this game. A game which is out in Japan and can be imported region-free. They are working on a translation, right? It's not like it would take forever. :?

    While I'm sure the various translation projects of Mother 3 are going to be good there is nothing quite like playing a professionally translated game.

    I've played a lot of games that are fan translated and watched a ton of fansubbed anime, and usually when I play/see the localized efforts they are usually just better. Cleaner, less errors, and usually a hell of a lot less literal. I can only think of maybe one game out of dozens where I preferred the fan translation.

    In other words, while I respect anyone taking the time to translate the game, I think that this other method of convincing Nintendo will probably be more successful in the long run.

    Plus, if nintendo puts it out, and it does rather well, they may see the point in making even more mother/earthbound games.

    Also, if they took the chance on Elite Beat agents, why not this?

    I'm assuming because the GBA is being phased out. I actually emailed Atlus about the subject of Mother 3 and the response was more or less that Nintendo wouldn't appreciate them touching their stuff, but even if they could, the GBA's decline is another factor.

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  • agoajagoaj Registered User regular
    Even if the GBA is being phased out, there are still games being release, still GBA's being sold, and it's compatible with the DS.

  • skeldareskeldare Maaaaariooooooooo? Gresham, ORRegistered User regular
    agoaj wrote: »
    Even if the GBA is being phased out, there are still games being release, still GBA's being sold, and it's compatible with the DS.
    One could say the same thing about the GC and Wii. Well, Madden's coming about apparently.

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  • agoajagoaj Registered User regular
    skeldare wrote: »
    agoaj wrote: »
    Even if the GBA is being phased out, there are still games being release, still GBA's being sold, and it's compatible with the DS.
    One could say the same thing about the GC and Wii. Well, Madden's coming about apparently.

    You need a funny purple controller with sticks to play GC games on your wii.

  • skeldareskeldare Maaaaariooooooooo? Gresham, ORRegistered User regular
    agoaj wrote: »
    skeldare wrote: »
    agoaj wrote: »
    Even if the GBA is being phased out, there are still games being release, still GBA's being sold, and it's compatible with the DS.
    One could say the same thing about the GC and Wii. Well, Madden's coming about apparently.

    You need a funny purple controller with sticks to play GC games on your wii.
    Or a cool wireless Gray/Platinum Wavebird. :)

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