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Mother 3: It's never coming out in America, cry more.

Xenogears of BoreXenogears of Bore Registered User regular
edited December 2008 in Games and Technology
Mother 3, and to a lesser extent, the Mother 1+2 compilation have been sore spots on the western gamer for a number of years now. Back in the halycon days when Mother 3 was a glint in the N64 Disk Drive's eye, Nintendo Power covered the shit out of it. As it slowly slipped platform, it's western coverage slipped to. Then the very vocal Earthbound/Mother fanbase started complaining. Letter writing, internet petitions, you name it. Now, it has become a bit more serious.

From ye olde Silconera

http://www.siliconera.com/2007/06/28/earthbound-fans-don’t-quit-they-demand-mother-3/
Silconera wrote:
The collective community of Mother/Earthbound fans at Starmen.net banded together to launch a campaign to bring Mother 3 outside of Japan. For the past few weeks members have been mailing envelopes to Nintendo with Earthbound fan art, circulating Earthbound propaganda posters on the internet and organized a flood of phone calls to Nintendo requesting a new Mother game. I admire the amount of passion the fans over at Starmen have for the Earthbound series and their clever timing. They started the campaign on May 13, 2007… Mothers Day!



This isn’t slacktivism with an online petition that no one will care about, it’s activism. Will Nintendo hear their cries and see an open market for a Nintendo DS port of Mother 3? For all the fervent Earthbound fans out there, I sure hope so!

I have always believed that Mother 3 was in our future. I think that if this really takes off Nintendo will finally relent. Still, good for the fanbase to try something a bit more conventional.

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  • TheKoolEagleTheKoolEagle Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    if mother 3 comes out in america, i will get my entire back tattooed with earthbound things.
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  • Jam WarriorJam Warrior Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    Hevach wrote: »
    Legacy wrote: »
    The least they could do is put Earthbound out on the VC soon... :|


    IN EUROPE!

    I don't mean to be a jerk but... well, we're asking for a miracle here as it is.

    What, just for Earthbound? It'll come to US VC eventually, that's for sure. All I'm asking is that they give it a wider release.

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  • Sinister CheshireSinister Cheshire Registered User
    edited June 2007
    Yeah lets bring Mother 3 over to the states. I cant say how many times I played Earthbound and when I was younger cried over the loss of further games from the series.

    but for fecks sake people....and Im saying this as a unverisal.

    WHY THE FUCK DOES EVERY DAMN RE-RELEASED RPG COME OUT FOR A FREAKING HANDHELD.


    Seriously. I dont own a DS, I dont have time to play in the car. I dont like to play on a mini screen. I want to play a 50 hour rpg ON A DAMN TELEVISION with freaking surround sound so good my house shakes just from me pressing "Load Saved Game"

    I dont understand why they keep putting Final Fantasy on the DS. Just release the damn game for PS2 or Xbox 360 or the Wii for christs sake. I'll buy the lousy old style controller just to play them.

    ::fume::

  • WembleyWembley Registered User
    edited June 2007

    ...
    Seriously. I dont own a DS, I dont have time to play in the car. I dont like to play on a mini screen. I want to play a 50 hour rpg ON A DAMN TELEVISION with freaking surround sound so good my house shakes just from me pressing "Load Saved Game"

    ...

  • JavenJaven Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    This just in: Video games cult following doesn't know when to say die.

    More as it develops (it won't)

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  • TigTig Registered User
    edited June 2007
    Wembley wrote: »

    ...
    Seriously. I dont own a DS, I dont have time to play in the car. I dont like to play on a mini screen. I want to play a 50 hour rpg ON A DAMN TELEVISION with freaking surround sound so good my house shakes just from me pressing "Load Saved Game"

    ...

    Has nobody told you? Handhelds are the new consoles.
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  • Frosted ButtsFrosted Butts Registered User
    edited June 2007
    I wish that they'd release the translation patch already.

    I mean, protesting is cool and all, but in order to really get a corporation's attention you gotta hit 'em in the wallet.

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  • Sacred CowSacred Cow Registered User
    edited June 2007
    i think one big reason its not coming to the states is because nintendo has pretty much stopped support for the GBA. mother 3 is gba right? i could be wrong but i'm pretty sure nintendo wouldn't squander any DS opportunities in the states.

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  • Seta 3000Seta 3000 Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    Starmen.net has a donation drive thing going right now. They've at about $6000, at this point, and are going to use it in the next phase of their plan. They've apparently got something awesome in the works, but the only way to find out what it is ... is to donate.

    I know one of the Starmen.net dudes, and I know someone that donated, and they both say it is really rad what they've got in store.

  • DangerousDangerous Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    Yeah lets bring Mother 3 over to the states. I cant say how many times I played Earthbound and when I was younger cried over the loss of further games from the series.

    but for fecks sake people....and Im saying this as a unverisal.

    WHY THE FUCK DOES EVERY DAMN RE-RELEASED RPG COME OUT FOR A FREAKING HANDHELD.


    Seriously. I dont own a DS, I dont have time to play in the car. I dont like to play on a mini screen. I want to play a 50 hour rpg ON A DAMN TELEVISION with freaking surround sound so good my house shakes just from me pressing "Load Saved Game"

    I dont understand why they keep putting Final Fantasy on the DS. Just release the damn game for PS2 or Xbox 360 or the Wii for christs sake. I'll buy the lousy old style controller just to play them.

    ::fume::

    I think it's mostly because the low resolution and simple sprites, combined with the simple control scheme make them work well on a handheld. Don't get me wrong I'd love to play them all on my big screen tv again but I think that bringing them to handhelds first was a logical choice.

    Back on topic, I don't think we'll ever see any official Mother 3 but if these guys are going to keep trying, more power to them. Shine on you crazy diamonds, shine on.

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  • dopplexdopplex Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    Yeah, I love having RPG rereleases on handhelds - DS releases especially. Being able to just close the DS when the subway gets to my stop without needing to worry about what I'm in the middle of is awesome for an RPG, where I may be mid-dungeon with nary a save point in sight. I just wish that GBA games suspended when you closed the DS...

  • MashalotMashalot Registered User
    edited June 2007
    Man, I dunno. They missed the boat with a GBA release, they'd never release the GBA Mother carts as-is now, it'd have to be a DS port which means lots of extra work. I'd eat a turd if nintendo released a DS game using only one screen.

    I am pisssssed it didn't come out in the US, but eh, I'll check back in a year and see how the fan translations turned out.

    I would be sooo happy if it hit as Wii-ware, though I know how assy it'd look blown up, case in point GC GBA player.

  • skeldareskeldare Time for adventure! Gresham, ORRegistered User regular
    edited June 2007
    Having imported both Mother 1+2 and Mother 3 months ago, I'd love to see these come out here. It's just not fair. :(

    It's not like Nintendo has a hell of a lot of RPGs.

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  • Zephyr_FateZephyr_Fate Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    I have a feeling the translation patch will be done before Nintendo actually decides to localize it.

    Ah well, we'll all be able to play Mother 3 so long as Cease&Desist orders don't start flying around.

  • BurtletoyBurtletoy Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    Pretty sure you can't send out Cease and Desist's for translations. They have been done for years now, I've never heard of one being shut down. Giving away patch .ips is perfectly legal.

  • Zephyr_FateZephyr_Fate Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    The thing is, most translations have been done years upon years after the game has been released, and the console is dead. See: Seiken Densetsu 3.

    The GBA isn't completely dead yet, and the game has only been out for a year or so.

  • BurtletoyBurtletoy Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    What about the non-official translations for pokemon gold and silver that came out before the official ones? they were hosted quite frequently.

  • LBD_NytetraynLBD_Nytetrayn TorontoRegistered User regular
    edited June 2007
    Javen wrote: »
    This just in: Video games cult following doesn't know when to say die.

    More as it develops (it won't)

    A cult doesn't know when to say die? That's a first.

    Anyway, wish Nintendo would just cut these guys a break, already. They've released worse, I'm sure. Wario: Master of Disguise didn't even rank well in Nintendo Power, for example...

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  • DarlanDarlan Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    I wonder if it were to come over on the DS or something, would it really sell all that well? Sure, some of the hardcore folks will snatch it up, but it really doesn't have the name recognition the FF GBAs had or anything.

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  • LBD_NytetraynLBD_Nytetrayn TorontoRegistered User regular
    edited June 2007
    Maybe if they boasted the connection to Smash Bros...

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  • ROFISHROFISH AnehiixiiRegistered User regular
    edited June 2007
    Seta 3000 wrote: »
    Starmen.net has a donation drive thing going right now. They've at about $6000, at this point, and are going to use it in the next phase of their plan. They've apparently got something awesome in the works, but the only way to find out what it is ... is to donate.

    I know one of the Starmen.net dudes, and I know someone that donated, and they both say it is really rad what they've got in store.

    It is rad. :D And you haven't seen nothing yet. That $6000 is going to good use.

    Do us all a favor and buy Earthbound for the Virtual Console when it comes out. A little birdy told me that this is our very last chance. (There were other chances, but you wouldn't believe them if I told you.)

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  • BahamutZEROBahamutZERO Space is the Place Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    ROFISH wrote: »
    Seta 3000 wrote: »
    Starmen.net has a donation drive thing going right now. They've at about $6000, at this point, and are going to use it in the next phase of their plan. They've apparently got something awesome in the works, but the only way to find out what it is ... is to donate.

    I know one of the Starmen.net dudes, and I know someone that donated, and they both say it is really rad what they've got in store.

    It is rad. :D And you haven't seen nothing yet. That $6000 is going to good use.

    Do us all a favor and buy Earthbound for the Virtual Console when it comes out. A little birdy told me that this is our very last chance. (There were other chances, but you wouldn't believe them if I told you.)
    Tell us anyway.

  • MashalotMashalot Registered User
    edited June 2007
  • ROFISHROFISH AnehiixiiRegistered User regular
    edited June 2007
    There's a few problems with going public with some of our ideas. Don't worry though, because we'll always tell you in the end. (BTW, that's from the time when we could've bought the beta N64 Mother 3.)

    But do buy EB on VC. I can't blindly parrot it enough. ;)

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  • RedMageDarionRedMageDarion Registered User
    edited June 2007
    ROFISH wrote: »
    But do buy EB on VC. I can't blindly parrot it enough. ;)
    There's no reason to not listen to this man.

    I mean, even IF buying does nothing to help the chances of Mother 3 getting localized, you've still got Earthbound on the VC.

    Seriously. It's a win/not-quite-AS-win-but-still-win situation.

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  • Jam WarriorJam Warrior Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    ROFISH wrote: »
    There's a few problems with going public with some of our ideas. Don't worry though, because we'll always tell you in the end. (BTW, that's from the time when we could've bought the beta N64 Mother 3.)

    But do buy EB on VC. I can't blindly parrot it enough. ;)

    I will if Nintendo will let me...

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  • hambonehambone Registered User
    edited June 2007
    I think it's funny that Nintendo has more faith in exporting Tingle's Rosy Rupeeland than Mother 3.


    And by funny I mean fucked up and sad.

    Just a bunch of intoxicated pigeons.
  • JimothyJimothy Not in front of the fox he's with the owlRegistered User regular
    edited June 2007
    Well, it is a Zelda spin-off. Mother doesn't really have that (though I guess it's connection to Smash Bros. is similar).

    But stop talking smack about Tingle's game. It will be an awesome adventure in capitalism.

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  • SirUltimosSirUltimos Don't talk, Rusty. Just paint. Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    It seems almost like Nintendo is purposely trying to spite the Earthbound fanbase by withholding the games. I remember I once read an interview with the NoA localization team where they laughed very heartily at the efforts of the Starman.net community and started calling them crazy and how they wish they could spite them...

    But frankly, I think they should release the games on the DS. It's a Nintendo made game on the DS so it's not gonna fail. and it'll give the fans what they want.

  • Xenogears of BoreXenogears of Bore Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    So then, any news on when this "Last Chance" is supposed to drop?

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  • SheepSheep Registered User, __BANNED USERS
    edited June 2007
    I know one of the Starmen.net dudes, and I know someone that donated, and they both say it is really rad what they've got in store.

    I've seen it myself, or at least part of their grand plan. What I've seen will only appeal to die hards. But I could just be not looking hard enough. I dunno.
    The GBA isn't completely dead yet, and the game has only been out for a year or so.

    Can't really infringe on something that isn't even on the market.

    I just want an answer, honestly. A "Yes, it's gonna happen" ideally, but I'll accept a, "No, it won't". Regardless, our anxiety will be put to an end.

    I called Nintendo. They asked my information, and kindly told me that they would be forwarding my statement over to the department that handles those types of things. The guy I talked with didn't seem to knowledgeable about the series, but did remark that they've gotten a fuck ton of correspondence about the game.

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  • CouscousCouscous Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    SirUltimos wrote: »
    It seems almost like Nintendo is purposely trying to spite the Earthbound fanbase by withholding the games. I remember I once read an interview with the NoA localization team where they laughed very heartily at the efforts of the Starman.net community and started calling them crazy and how they wish they could spite them...

    People in the upper part of the hierarchy at Nintendo have also noted how much stuff they get from fans of Earthbound.

  • EtericEteric Registered User
    edited June 2007
    Earthbound fans are truely the craziest of all game fanbases... Ever.

    With that said, how can I help? :D

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  • skeldareskeldare Time for adventure! Gresham, ORRegistered User regular
    edited June 2007
    Sleep wrote: »
    I called Nintendo. They asked my information, and kindly told me that they would be forwarding my statement over to the department that handles those types of things. The guy I talked with didn't seem to knowledgeable about the series, but did remark that they've gotten a fuck ton of correspondence about the game.
    You talked to a desk monkey. They know nothing beyond what they're trained on. They certainly wouldn't know anything about Mother.

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  • randombattlerandombattle Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    To this day I still cannot figure out why Mother 3 never came out here.

    They said they were localizing it before and then just dropped it forever and refused to do anything with it at all. They must know it would also print money but they just don't seem to care.

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  • ZekZek Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    If you look up "cult following" in the dictionary, you'll see a link to Starmen.net. Those guys are fucking hardcore about Earthbound. They'll be petitioning for years if they have to.

    I think it's unlikely that Nintendo will localize it at this point. Selling to the entire Earthbound fanbase probably isn't enough to justify the expenses of translating a GBA game at this point. It really is extremely niche.

  • agoajagoaj Avatar avatar avatar HD Avatar of the Year EditionRegistered User regular
    edited June 2007
    ROFISH wrote: »
    Seta 3000 wrote: »
    Starmen.net has a donation drive thing going right now. They've at about $6000, at this point, and are going to use it in the next phase of their plan. They've apparently got something awesome in the works, but the only way to find out what it is ... is to donate.

    I know one of the Starmen.net dudes, and I know someone that donated, and they both say it is really rad what they've got in store.

    It is rad. :D And you haven't seen nothing yet. That $6000 is going to good use.

    Do us all a favor and buy Earthbound for the Virtual Console when it comes out. A little birdy told me that this is our very last chance. (There were other chances, but you wouldn't believe them if I told you.)

    Sounds like a bad Kenan and Kel sketch.

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  • randombattlerandombattle Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    Zek wrote: »
    If you look up "cult following" in the dictionary, you'll see a link to Starmen.net. Those guys are fucking hardcore about Earthbound. They'll be petitioning for years if they have to.

    I think it's unlikely that Nintendo will localize it at this point. Selling to the entire Earthbound fanbase probably isn't enough to justify the expenses of translating a GBA game at this point. It really is extremely niche.

    They could make tons of money if they were smart about it.

    Package Earthbound in with it, add touch screen controls to both games, and sell it on the DS for like 40$. You can't tell me that an earthbound 1/2 package would not sell gobs.

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  • cj iwakuracj iwakura The Rhythm Rogue Coral Springs, FLRegistered User regular
    edited June 2007
    They'd never do that, because they'd lose money. Earthbound DS alone would make enough for it to justify it as a solo release.

    I think the main problem is that the original wasn't a big success, so they're reluctant to give it another try.

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  • skeldareskeldare Time for adventure! Gresham, ORRegistered User regular
    edited June 2007
    Zek wrote: »
    If you look up "cult following" in the dictionary, you'll see a link to Starmen.net. Those guys are fucking hardcore about Earthbound. They'll be petitioning for years if they have to.

    I think it's unlikely that Nintendo will localize it at this point. Selling to the entire Earthbound fanbase probably isn't enough to justify the expenses of translating a GBA game at this point. It really is extremely niche.

    They could make tons of money if they were smart about it.

    Package Earthbound in with it, add touch screen controls to both games, and sell it on the DS for like 40$. You can't tell me that an earthbound 1/2 package would not sell gobs.
    Unfortunately, being a cult favorite and a (relatively) unknown license probably won't help. :(

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