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[PATV]: Season 3, Episode 8: Mitigated (4th Panel)

Robert KhooRobert Khoo Registered User, Administrator, ClubPA, Penny Arcade Staff, PAX Staff staff
edited January 2012 in The Penny Arcade Hub

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  • FandeathisFandeathis Registered User regular
    Mike's story was incredible. Shit like that really stays with you.

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  • KalTorakKalTorak Registered User regular
    This is one of my favorite recent comics, and now one of my favorite 4th Panels.

  • FalxFalx Registered User regular
    Man that damn story.

    At first I was chuckling... but then I heard his voice and really looked and saw the teary eyes and... shit.

    Well now I remember something for myself.
    Spoiler for long:
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    Hisao? What's the word for when it feels in your heart that everything in the world is alright?
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  • 101101 Registered User regular
    Yikes. that story D:

  • GyralGyral Registered User regular
    This fourth panel is just gonna up all sorts of old emotional wounds.

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  • jackaljackal Registered User regular
    that fucking story. fuck.

  • chrishallett83chrishallett83 Hi! Registered User regular
    Aww, poor Mike. You can see the pain on his face as he recalls the humiliation.

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  • KorlashKorlash Registered User
    edited January 2012
    I simultaneously feel great and bad. Initially I paused the video and laughed my ass off for a solid minute. I mean, it's really horrible, but it's hilariously horrible. Like it's so bad that you can only laugh at it.

    Then I unpaused the video and saw that he wasn't over it at all. Haha, I guess I sorta feel bad about it now. Kinda wish he'd get over it now though. I mean, we've read tales of absolutely soul-crushing moments (remember the guy who was trying to spell "I am poor" in pennies?) on this forum, and most people can laugh about it afterwards.

    I guess we can all be thankful that Mike didn't turn into a supervillain. :p

    I'm guessing we won't be getting more details about this, but I sort of wonder what his father was doing. If I had a son and this happened to him, I'd be pissed.

    Reminds me of when people sarcastically cheer ice hockey goalies when they make a routine save after letting in many goals. I'll probably go ballistic if this ever happens to me. :p

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  • The Good Doctor TranThe Good Doctor Tran Registered User regular
    Oh. My. God.
    Spoiler:

    Who would allow that kind of a monster to interact with children!?

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  • abort/retry/fail?abort/retry/fail? Too "dad" for PAR Registered User
    edited January 2012
    Hilariously funny and heartbreakingly sad. I'm glad it didn't get censored out, it's a story that probably resonates for a lot of us. I guess maybe it made Mike's friend Justin feel better not to be the only one up there - I imagine that for a disabled child, being given help because you're one of two kids who're bad at basketball as opposed to simply because of his disability would have made him feel less different.

    But anyway, a useful reminder to me: never patronise my children.

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  • VidihawkVidihawk Registered User
    edited January 2012
    Now I feel like an idiot. I was CERTAIN that comic was about Mario looking very gay in the glowing raccoon outfit. Just imagine all the goombas talking with a lisp and that third panel takes on a far naughtier tone.

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  • GalacticGalactic Registered User
    Sadness aside, that is a damn funny story.

    ^_-;

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  • TofystedethTofystedeth veni, veneri, vamoosi Registered User regular
    edited January 2012
    Falx wrote:
    Man that damn story.

    At first I was chuckling... but then I heard his voice and really looked and saw the teary eyes and... shit.

    Well now I remember something for myself.
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    Oh man. That's bad.
    I was the smart kid in my elementary school, and at the end of the year they had one of those award ceremonies where they give out the ribbons for the kids with perfect attendance, and all that shit. And ended up going up to the stage several times to get stuff. Nothing really amazing, just you know, things that a kid who reads for fun and is good at arithmetic can do without too much effort, in grade school, where most kids don't. Well, after about the third time, someone sitting behind me had put a 'kick me' sign or something on my back so most of the whole auditorium was laughing at me as I went up. I was pretty mortified.

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  • CambiataCambiata Social Justice Vanguard of Your Destruction Registered User regular
    edited January 2012
    Falx wrote:
    Man that damn story.

    At first I was chuckling... but then I heard his voice and really looked and saw the teary eyes and... shit.

    Well now I remember something for myself.
    Spoiler for long:
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    Damn.

    I feel pretty lucky now that I think back, that for the most part my teachers recognized my painful shyness and didn't do shit like that to me.

    Like the closest thing to it was a teacher reading a poem I wrote (God!) in front of the class... but at least she was nice enough not to tell the class who wrote it.

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  • CrakesCrakes Registered User
    Ahhh fuck. I went through pretty much the exact same thing with my dad getting me to play basketball because I was tall. I didn't make a single shot and the whole team knew I was bad. Thankfully, I made a single basket during one of the last games (I was wide open, because the other team recognized how terrible I was and didn't bother to cover me the whole game). If I hadn't done that, I might have found myself in the same fucking situation.

    It still sucked though, because they immediately took me out after that and were giving me all the bullshit praise. Feels fucking terrible and I swore I'd never play ever again. Sort of resented my father for a good while after that.

  • TarranonTarranon Registered User regular
    one time a coach tried to recruit me to tennis because i had a good form and i guess he was looking for people

    i told him i was really bad at it!

    and he said 'oh, but you play videogames right? doesn't that improve your coordination?'

    i think i still love him a little bit to this day

  • 0blique0blique Registered User regular
    Man, that's an awful story, although I was laughing the whole time. I wonder what is it that drives people to think that doing that is such a good idea.

  • Viktor WaltersViktor Walters Registered User regular
    Just saying, even if Mike doesn't read the forums, I know that feel. I know it hard.

    I won't go into detail, but essentially I was in with/was one of the dweebs and the wierdos pretty much all throughout elementary-middle school. We were the nerds who just accepted everyone who was weird or ostracized. I guess I don't think about it now much, but that story resonated strongly with me. The mentally disabled kid part especially, 'cause I had many a friend like that- the kid with epilepsy that all the stupid "cool" kids wouldn't hang out with, the kid who didn't speak English well 'cause it wasn't his native language, etc. I had those friends. They were great people. We just didn't mix well with sports. Or, I guess, other kids our age. Actually, now that I think of it I kinda was thrown out of the loop around high school and only could hang out comfortably with people 2-3 years older, since people in my age grouping got REALLY clique-y around then. But anyway, that stuff does stick with you- but it's important to remember it was not your fault and it's one hell of a badge of pride now. It is for me, at least. It definitely gave me a newfound respect for Mike, too.

    And this is a little off-topic but, seriously, screw dodge ball. It is an evil game for cruel people.

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  • Dark Raven XDark Raven X When you speak I hear muffinsRegistered User regular
    As a nerdy little weakling, dodge ball was the only "sport" I enjoyed!

    For an nonathletic wuss, I had aim.

    I had one of these moments too, but it was of my own creation, I guess. Creative writing, I was bored and didn't wanna actually do it, so I just copied the plot of Dragonball Z into the medieval fantasy framework we were supposed to do. Names and Ki powers and all.

    Then oh joy of joys, the teacher declared it great and read it to the class.

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  • chuckleberryfinnchuckleberryfinn Ireland Registered User regular
    That was hard to watch.
    I've kept that one inside, for a long time.

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  • LuDuxLuDux Registered User
    edited January 2012
    If you've ever met, known, or had a gym teacher, you know this to be true.

    Every Gym Teacher Ever: HUMILIATING CHILDREN MAKES ME HARD >:-D

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  • PsykomaPsykoma Registered User regular
    LuDux wrote:
    If you've ever met, known, or had a gym teacher, you know this to be true.

    Every Gym Teacher Ever: HUMILIATING CHILDREN MAKES ME HARD >:-D

    To be fair, humiliating a gym teacher as a child is amazingly orgasmic too.

    I remember it was grade 6, I had this beast of a gym teacher, he said he used to be a pro football player.
    So we were playing football for the first time of the year, he decided to join in the game. Six foot three inches man who pretty closely resembles a fridge running around a field with 4-5 foot kids.
    Somehow, through no action I approved of, I ended up with the ball and this abomination running down towards me.
    So um, I might have panicked, and kicked the ball. It hit him right in the nose.

    It was *unbelievably* satisfying watching him stumble around with a bit of a bleeding nose.

  • Triple BTriple B Registered User regular
    I've pretty much repressed most of that shit, though. Mike's story definitely resonates with me, but I probably couldn't tell an embarrassing story about my childhood if I wanted to. I know there was an abundance of them, and I'm sure someday I'll spiral into an alcohol-assisted collapse when I finally remember them all, but for now I'm comfortable not remembering. I was the fat kid, after all. Christ knows I would've had plenty of chances to be humiliated or patronized.

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  • FalxFalx Registered User regular
    Between the ages of about 11 and 14... I can't really remember what I looked like. And you won't find many photos of me either.

    I got hit with the puberty stick pretty early. I remember crying in the bath at 9 because I found hair on my balls. So I had enough facial hair growing to justify shaving by 12... except I couldn't because I had such a massive case of acne the Dr. wrote a letter for the school saying I was forbidden from shaving until I clear up. So I was a 13 year old kid taller than some of the male teachers, with a massive beard with huge swollen red pustules poking their way through the hair all over my face.

    I didn't get much shit in school about it... I was pretty big after all. I can still remember the stares in public though, especially if I had my school uniform on.

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  • IvarIvar Registered User regular
    Korlash wrote:
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    I guess we can all be thankful that Mike didn't turn into a supervillain.

    ...

    Oh, he did, but at least he's OUR super villain. :)

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  • KalTorakKalTorak Registered User regular
    edited January 2012
    Didn't Tycho mention that he hasn't talked to his dad in like, a really long time? I forget which episode that was.

    edit: come to think of it that might have been in a Daily Affirmation or Morning After or something.

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  • GaslightGaslight Registered User regular
    If you're really curious, there's some amount of information about Mike and Jerry's family backgrounds in the 11-and-a-half-year Anniversary Book, although perhaps all of you have read that.

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  • AurichAurich Registered User regular
    edited January 2012
    Maybe I'm an insensitive guy, but I wasn't really picking up lasting damage off Mike. Maybe it was just because he was so clearly able to laugh about it, and because he was definitely playing it up "You think we should do a comic about how I was broken as a child?!" But I mean, this is the same guy who loves his job/life so much that he feels guilty about telling his family he's going to "work" for the day. He has got to recognize that he won.

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  • KalTorakKalTorak Registered User regular
    I don't think there's significant damage from that one story, but even though he jokes about it you can tell that it affects him more than a normal anecdote. I think he also knows that he did "win" as you said, so there's not a lot to be gained from dwelling heavily on that sort of experience.

    It also seems like one of those stories that maybe you don't realize how bad it was while you were experiencing it, but looking back on it and relating it to someone else, you realize that at least it sounds pretty bad.

  • Triple BTriple B Registered User regular
    edited January 2012
    Aurich wrote:
    Maybe I'm an insensitive guy, but I wasn't really picking up lasting damage off Mike. Maybe it was just because he was so clearly able to laugh about it, and because he was definitely playing it up "You think we should do a comic about how I was broken as a child?!" But I mean, this is the same guy who loves his job/life so much that he feels guilty about telling his family he's going to "work" for the day. He has got to recognize that he won.

    Pain is pain. Our memories and experiences make us who we are. If I recall correctly, Mike Krahulik is on Lexapro, which is an anti-anxiety med. Disorder aside, it's not at all unreasonable to think some of that anxiety comes from a shit childhood. Pain (especially childhood pain) stays with you no matter how far upward your life may be trending. Of course he's not dwelling on it, but I can't begrudge the guy if it still bothers him to think about.

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  • IvarIvar Registered User regular
    DaltonCarl wrote:
    This is a bit off topic, but when he was talking about being a kid made me think of somehting. They seem to never really talk about their parents. Like he and there that their dad didnt approve. But i feel like they've never shared about their parents in the strip, show anything.

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  • Dark Raven XDark Raven X When you speak I hear muffinsRegistered User regular
    edited January 2012
    Ivar wrote:
    DaltonCarl wrote:
    This is a bit off topic, but when he was talking about being a kid made me think of somehting. They seem to never really talk about their parents. Like he and there that their dad didnt approve. But i feel like they've never shared about their parents in the strip, show anything.
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    It's not weird that their parents don't get brought up much on PATV; no weirder than the wives and kids not appearing much in the first season. Past a certain point, that much exposure of someone's private life is creepy.

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  • DestinPsDestinPs Registered User regular
    I was on the basketball team in my youth.. I'm 6'2 and the tall to greatness ratio is definitely a myth.
    I like to think of myself as athletic now(at the age of 27) thanks to years of forced activity, but back then my job was to stand underneath the basket and get rebounds.
    I never made a basket that I can recall.
    I was also thrown into the soccer world ages 5-12, that wasn't much better.
    I remember sitting out an entire game once, and on a separate occasion being on a team with a scoreless season and getting the opportunity on our last game to make an easy penalty shot.
    Making it shouldn't of been as exciting as it was, we were celebrating the easiest goal anyone could make with the equivalency of a team that just won the championship.

  • mare_imbriummare_imbrium I'm fine, just tired. Registered User regular
    There was a point when he was telling that story where I sort of knew what was coming and my stomach just kind of clenched for him. I've had some of those moments too.

    Long, but not super long:
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    It's a hard thing, I think, to make sure you don't hurt the kids but that you don't...give them no recognition at all. I mean obviously you never do THAT to a child. My older boy has played soccer for I think five years now. He's eight. He is not good. He's usually one of the weakest players on the team - at least the last couple of years now that kids with skill have really started to develop (4-5 year olds playing soccer is not really something that has any kind of structure). Every year I tell him that he can play if he wants to, and that I won't force him, but that if I pay for him to play he has to commit for a whole season. I actually get afraid I'm too hard on him - I don't care that he's not good but sometimes it seems like he's just screwing around out there and I come down on him for it. But I guess I'm afraid that I might over praise him when he does something well or has a good game. It's certainly genuine and not patronizing. If you don't have kids I'm not sure I can explain how it feels, to root for them. I don't want him to think it's not deserved or make him feel worse, but then I also think it'd be a dick thing to do to say something like "oh, good job on that block, it's too bad it was only once time in the whole game" or let it go by because it wasn't spectacular, or something.

    I try really hard to ascertain how he feels about it without coming out and saying anything negative about his performance, but it's difficult to figure out. It seems like if he knows he isn't a very good player it doesn't seem to bother him. I suppose at some point that might change.

    But yeah, kids are hard, and I suppose that there could be people out there who just think so differently from most of us here. They figure, everyone likes praise and so this is something appropriate to do. And it's hard to know from the outside which event is going to haunt some kid for the rest of their lives.

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  • ForeverSteadfastForeverSteadfast Registered User
    edited January 2012
    First time looking through the PA forums, and after seeing this thread, I had to post my own "embarrassing" story. If anything, just to show more support for those of us who've been humiliated and have used those experiences to makes us stronger, smarter people. Like Mike, like Jerry, like the rest of you. Sorry if I'm posting on a semi-dead thread here. I know that the last reply was almost two weeks ago, but I just had to post.

    November 2006, I was working with a Navy recruiter to enlist. Of course - thinking I'd like to be some kind of Rambo - I start looking at the Special Warfare rates. In particular, I was really interested in: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special_Warfare_Combatant-craft_Crewmen. Or SWCC, for short. Smaller boats, big guns, pick up and drop off SEALs - yadda, yadda, yadda.

    I figured the job would be PT-intensive, but I didn't realize how much. So I started a work-out regimen with my recruiter. Only thing was, he was an FC (Fire Controlman). He launched missiles and crap; not exactly a PT-intensive job. Dude was not the guy to go to in preparation for something like what I had chosen. In fact, I should have been seeing what they called "Dive Motivators." Basically, retired SEALs, Navy Divers, SWCC, etc. who helped young potential recruits train for what lay ahead.

    Weeks go by and my recruiter calls me up one day, tells me I have to pass a PT test just to qualify for the SWCC contract the following day. That is, before shipping to boot, before even signing my name on the dotted line. I figure its the standard Navy PRT (Push-ups, Sit-ups and 1 1/2 mile run).

    Yeah... No.

    It was push-ups, sit-ups, pull-ups, run and then a swim using the combat side stroke.

    Now, I don't know about you guys, but the side stroke is a very, very awkward swim for me. Given the fact that I hadn't been notified of this until a day before my test, and I had no clue how to do a proper side-stroke, you could say I showed up less than prepared. Well, I pass the push-ups, sit-ups, pull-ups and run. I wasn't really sweating those. It was the swim and its strict guidelines that terrified me. Oh, and I forgot to mention, I was the smallest guy there. 5'6', 145 lbs. The rest of the guys there ranged from super fit to meat-head bulky.

    I notified the Motivator who was conducting the swim test that I had no clue how to do the side stroke. He gives me a quick tutorial and then orders me into my pool lane. The other guys take off, perfect form, and here I am left doing some kind of hybrid, f'd up version of I don't know what. Now there was a time limit to this swim (complete a certain distance under dictated time). Let me put it this way; I went so far over my time limit (choking on water at this point because I'm just utterly bombing this side stroke thing) that the motivator walks over and says, "Just get out of the pool."

    I've never been more embarrassed in my entire life.

    This wasn't being made fun of by the high school jocks. It wasn't being humiliated by the pretty girl. It was looking like a complete and utter wimp in front of not only grizzled "old salts," but also in front of guys that were used to competing, used to being the best and who were serious about qualifying for Special Warfare training. Needless to say, I got quite a few "what the hell is this guy doing here" glances.

    I've never felt so alone, so stupid and so humiliated in my entire life. Rage burned inside of me thinking about how I hadn't been notified about this test until it was too late. It didn't help that the Motivator took me aside and berated me, demanding to know if I thought that this was some kind of joke.

    Anyway...

    I ended up shipping to boot in February of 2007 - with a different rate. But I'll never forget that damned test and how humiliated I had felt. It felt like a "nerd gets humiliated" scene from any 1980's high school drama.


    P.S. Sorry for the long post. I'm a bit long-winded.

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