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Rofflor · February 2012

MMMig should really see that game, Leenock vs Tod. The last in the series. Must be inspiring.

815165 · February 2012

The amount of BM Idra receives on the KR ladder is pretty surprising.

Biosys · February 2012

yoyoyoyoyoyo

streaammuuuuu~

http://www.twitch.tv/biosys

hot hot diamond action

may also play some dotes two, but for now just laddering

Biosys · February 2012

playing team games with mumble and stuff

waaatchhhhh

http://www.twitch.tv/biosys

Invictus · February 2012

Please, everyone, two things with regard to teamleague: tonight is the end of signups, I hope to get some organizing done tomorrow. If you are already signed up, please update with what bracket you'd like to play in. First bracket is GM through diamond, second bracket is plat/gold, third bracket is silver/bronze. For most people, it is pretty obvious which one you are in, but some people give more information than a simple league, which makes it unclear which bracket. So, please, pick one. If you play multiple races at multiple skill levels, feel free to give different brackets for each race. (it would be useful to have people like that when I'm matching appropriate players)

Link is here.

Impyrocker · February 2012

Trunkers wrote:

Impyrocker wrote:

Trunkers wrote:

So I think Phoenixes are the way to go in PvP. I never feel like I can get enough damage done with blink stalkers. If they're defensive and have immortals there aren't many openings to poke in.

If I go robo, one play I really like is to just send a warp-prism over their minerals and drop in 3-4 zealots. Usually you can kill a few probes and get out with no losses.
I feel like PvP is so much about small edges. The nice thing about Phoenixes is that you can secure an economy lead, and you can force tech paths that are favorable to you. If they mass blink-stalkers, you can (according to Day 9 at least) switch to double robo and just pump out immortals. If they go Colossus you just stay on Phoenix. If they go DT's you just LOL because hey, observers.

One problem I often have in regular PvP is not knowing when to expand, due to not knowing when the opponent expands. With phoenixes you have the information, and can choose to either all-in or expand and keep up a probe lead.

Anybody have a good stargate build-order? I scratched down these notes after watching a replay, but I haven't really tested it.

Spoiler:

Chrono out units from the WG.
Stalker, Sentry, Stalker

Stargate + Gateway @ 31

Robo @ 38

My stargate pvp is either:

13 gate
16 cyber
Chrono out two zealots and poke his base, scout what he's going for, sometimes do some damage
Stargate
2 Gates

or the more standard
12 gate
16 cyber
17 pylon
19 stalker
23 stargate
24 sentry
than add 1-2 gates more

If they look like they are going for a 4 gate, get two sentries out asap, and warp in 2 more instead of pheonixes if they are 4 gating you.

In build # 2, when exactly do you get the second gas? Is this the build you used against me in the CSL?

The second gas is on 19, right after I gas steal the opponent. I actually forgot to put that in there, but that's an important part of it. Gas steal on 18 by cutting probes a little, protect your own gas, and take it as soon as you can.

Galy · February 2012

Hi SC2 thread.

I'm getting back into the game after not playing for a year. Was a diamond zerg but this time around I want to learn the other races.

Dhal's guide has given me an idea of where to start for Protoss. What's a good generic opening for a new Terran player?

Keamien · February 2012

Variable wrote:

@hoz @keamien http://drop.sc/104171

tvz on entombed. it wasn't cross so I decided (like I would on antiga) just to kill him by throwing down my forth and making him to something about it.

honestly I'd probably do the same on cross because I don't know what else to do

but anyway let me know what you think

@variable Get your engineering bay faster. In this build, you want to hit a +2/+1 attack timing (should be around 14-15mins, right before Blords). Yours was about a min later than it could have been, and as a result so were your upgrades. Save scans for his main once a minute from 13mins onward. Gotta know hive tech, and what sort of hive tech he is going for. Once you see the hive tech, down goes double ghost academies, and then double ghost upgrades. He has broodlords morphing, and you don't have an immediate answer, which means he is going to force you backwards until you have an answer, and by then, you likely wont have an answer to his ling/bling anymore. Vikings are a decent counter to broodlords, but only if he is dumb and doesn't make corruptors and infestors to deal with the vikings. I honestly don't even bother with vikings anymore, just ghosts.

Army awareness and multitasking - He sent mutas into harass, and you chased him away with marines. And those marines stayed there the entire time. Hoz was right, you also left too many units defending. Those tanks at least should be part of your offense, if not the marines too. Once the first big engagement happened, you had 10ish marines at his third which could have been killing the distance mining drones, and then your drop should have focused down his hatchery.

Just forcing him to kill you while you take your fourth requires more of an active effort to defend it. Bunkers, missile turrets, and a planetary. I like to put bunkers behind walls of depots, makes it super frustrating for the zergies.

And lastly, don't rely on that base between the two of you. Take more in the top of the map or that weird rocked island base

Keamien · February 2012

Galy wrote:

Hi SC2 thread.

I'm getting back into the game after not playing for a year. Was a diamond zerg but this time around I want to learn the other races.

Dhal's guide has given me an idea of where to start for Protoss. What's a good generic opening for a new Terran player?

Terran is far from generic these days

Galy · February 2012

Keamien wrote:

Galy wrote:

Hi SC2 thread.

I'm getting back into the game after not playing for a year. Was a diamond zerg but this time around I want to learn the other races.

Dhal's guide has given me an idea of where to start for Protoss. What's a good generic opening for a new Terran player?

Terran is far from generic these days

I don't need anything too fancy or match-up specific. I'm just going to fart around in the lower leagues and let my probes and pylons carry me to victory.

I think this is what I'm looking for:
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/1Rax_1Fact_1Port

MMMig · February 2012

If you're not playing photon cycles with us on mumble right now, you're still doing it wrong.

Hoz · February 2012

Keamien wrote:

Once the first big engagement happened, you had 10ish marines at his third which could have been killing the distance mining drones, and then your drop should have focused down his hatchery.

I think good multitasking is not so much about about fast decision making, but about habits. And something like this can be fixed with good multitasking habits.

This is something I'm trying to fix in my own play, queuing up another action before I take my attention off of engaged units. Like with those marines, shift attack move into the path that the drones would take (but ideally you should have been attacking from that point in that situation). Anything, shift + attack move in the direction of your own army, the direction of their army, a safe zone where you can pick them up later. Just something for them to do when they're done doing their current action while your attention is on something else.

Biosys · February 2012

had 6 viewers on my stream earlier

esports superstar™

Biosys · February 2012

testimonials about my stream

'is that idra being aggressive??? oh, no, wait that's bio, can't tell them apart' - kebeh

'stephano plays exactly like bio' - kambing

'bio is so good he's playing sc4' - can't remember

MNC Dover · February 2012

OK guys, I'm back from my Disney trip. Twelve pages huh? Someone wanna recap what I missed out on, or is it the usual T/P/Z/MULES is OP, some Koreans won games, and K-Pop video links?

MMMig · February 2012

That's pretty much it aside from our GSL signup page and someone asking you to put it in the OP.

^_^

Galy · February 2012

Played Terran for my placement matches and went 1-4. Bronze league awwwwwwww yeah.

tiballagher · February 2012

Bronze League: we're ~~the best!~~ ~~improving!~~ also a league!

jaziek · February 2012

4 fucking pvps in a fucking row in the fucking playhem daily. There's only so many 4gates you can hold before 1 gets you.

Sceptre · February 2012

MNC Dover wrote:

OK guys, I'm back from my Disney trip. Twelve pages huh? Someone wanna recap what I missed out on, or is it the usual T/P/Z/MULES is OP, some Koreans won games, and K-Pop video links?

Wait, when was the last time any of that didn't happen?

Mvrck · February 2012

There were about a half dozen times there where Cloud could have a-moved and won handily.

MNC Dover wrote:

OK guys, I'm back from my Disney trip. Twelve pages huh? Someone wanna recap what I missed out on, or is it the usual T/P/Z/MULES is OP, some Koreans won games, and K-Pop video links?

You did miss Klyka being completely German on mumble last night.

Trunkers · February 2012

ugh, some rough losses tonight but also some fun wins.

I just did a proxy-robo 3-gate warp prism all-in pvt and smashed the guy on shattered temple. That was fun.

I lost a pvp after I killed his third and was still 30 supply ahead. Not fun.

Biosys · February 2012

this one image is all the proof i need to believe that tyler will actually do something this year

Spoiler:

fatalspoons · February 2012

This was too good, so I had to immortalize it. PA strike force game. 27 seconds left. Score tied 4 to 4. Mig in bounds the ball.

Sorry, no sound.

MMMig · February 2012

Rub it in why don't ya?

>.<'

fatalspoons · February 2012

MMMig wrote:

Rub it in why don't ya?

>.<'

Sorry, I had to. It was too good.

redraptor · February 2012

It was absolute bullplop since you subbed in a new character for the last play, of which no one knows the capabilities. Thereby there will always be an astericks next to your only win Mr.Spoons.

MMMig · February 2012

And redraptor never learned how to pass so that's another reason your ill-deserved victory.

BIG asterisk.

*

fatalspoons · February 2012

haters gonna hate.

Think I'll go watch it one more time ;-)

MNC Dover · February 2012

Sceptre wrote:

MNC Dover wrote:

OK guys, I'm back from my Disney trip. Twelve pages huh? Someone wanna recap what I missed out on, or is it the usual T/P/Z/MULES is OP, some Koreans won games, and K-Pop video links?

Wait, when was the last time any of that didn't happen?

Good point. BTW, I think I have a much better shot at getting a job at Disney after that Imagineer trip. Met and interviewed with a lot of cool and important people. Who knows? I might be be living in California in the next 6-8 months?! Trippy!

redraptor · February 2012

WAT I was carrying I'm like probe renaldo.

probenaldo

TannerMS · February 2012

twitch.tv/valcastofficial

Playing Semis of Valcast Open against a top masters P if anyone's interested

chuckleberryfinn · February 2012

Hey guys, I'm sorry to do this but a friend of mine has gone missing.

Is there any chance some of you could upvote this reddit link?

http://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/pb0nt/friend_and_fellow_redditor_paul_bunbury_missing/

*Edit, he's been missing since last Thursday and his family are very worried about him. Any help would be much appreciated.

MMMig · February 2012

Done.

Good luck man.

chuckleberryfinn · February 2012

Thanks man!

Trunkers · February 2012

Upvoted. Hope you can track him down.

Biosys · February 2012

voted it up, gl man

chuckleberryfinn · February 2012

Thanks lads, really appreciate it.

If you're ever over in Dublin, I owe you some pints!

Variable · February 2012

how did you do tanner

Matt343 · February 2012

I cannot express how in love with Feast's stalker pressure PvT I am. I have won something like 5 games with it, and only one of them has made it past the initial pressure. It feels almost like an all in, except that it is a 1-gate expand build that focuses on probe production and if the aggression is repelled you are ahead, not behind. It seems like low league Terran just don't know how to respond to an aggressive Protoss at all.

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