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[Mass Effect] Lay off the DLC arguments. USE SPOILER TAGS
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No we're missing out on a fully voiced character with a quest to get him whos very existence raises a whole fuckload of plot questions.
I mean when describing what your dlc includes spoils a major fucking plot point, and it's on day 1? Maybe rethink it
It's less a spoiler and more just marketing. If it sounds interesting to somebody, they'll buy it. If the character were just some dude, a person would be less likely to buy it.
Well...
Actually, yeah. That's exactly how that works, isn't it?
The second is that in ME2, not having the DLC squadmates didn't really feel like you were missing much. You still had 10 other henchmen to play around with. In ME3, you've got - what, six? That's a squad nearly half the size of ME2's, so adding another feels comparatively significant.
So what? Accounting for them is stupid and there is no fucking evidence they'd buy it if Bioware changed a damn thing. Better to just ignore them because if they pirate they're not paying you any ways and their opinion means less than any random schmuck off the street. If you change things to suit them there is no guarantee they'd actually buy it. They'll probably still pirate it anyways so screw them.
If it's just some random asshole I can ignore it!
If it's somebody interesting grr Bioware why are you making me want to spend more money
Well, it's optional. By definition, it's not a "major part of the game". You can finish the game without it. If BioWare had never produced it, you'd still have bought ME3 for $60 and considered that a fair price (or at least a price consistent with the video game market--perhaps you believe that all games are overpriced, but that's a separate argument). So you're really saying you want this extra content for no extra cost.
I like getting more stuff for the same price, too, but I don't really get why it's an outrage (or even surprising) when content producers charge me extra for more stuff.
Remember Kingdoms of Amalur? He tore into that game, too. And what pisses me off is that thousands of people listen to this guy and just decide to agree with what he says instead of coming to their own conclusions or using their own rational thought.
Huh. Oh well. It adds more plot, but really, I can shell out a few bucks for it if it really matters. Or just wait until later on when I get more money, THEN pay for it. Otherwise, I don't really care. I don't agree with all of EA's (or sometimes, Bioware's) methods, but boycotting the game? Threatening to pirate it?
All because the "evil syndicate" is wanting more of your money? All because jack-asses like Biscuit preach about how Day 1 DLC means they are trying to sell an 'incomplete game' and take 'more of your money'? That's not what Day 1 DLC is. I mean, the game was most likely in it's completion stages when they started working on the DLC. I'm actually happy we can get it now, rather than wait 4 months and pay for it THEN.
But no, people make a big fucking deal about it, and it gets out of hand. Next thing you know, Bioware might decide to play more hard-ball, because certain parties had to act like total douche-bags.
My favorite historical trivia is that George Washington accidentally started the French and Indian War while a lieutenant. He massacred a French diplomatic party, and things went from there. And, of course, the taxes to pay for the French and Indian War were what started the Revolution.
If you put that in a novel, the editor would send it back for revision because it was too contrived.
I wish it were on Steam so I could see this;
And on the following page, to be fair, it's not "free with the CE". I paid $30 extra for the CE, and yes, I feel that all of the items (digital and real) are worth that extra, but the cost of that DLC is factored in there. I didn't work out an exact amount, but it was basically "Okay, $60 for game, $10 for DLC, $20 to cover soundtrack/artbook/patch/tin/etc... yeah, I'll do that."
Now, I can understand the perspective of someone buying the base game and seeing a potential $10 added on top if they want the extra content, but that's a choice they can make. It means they can buy it day 1, or wait a paycheque, or a month, or a year. Am I a fan of this route? Not particularly, but I don't see it as outrage worthy. Like all DLC, day 1 or otherwise, you either choose to buy it or you do without. I chose to get the mission DLC for ME2 at not-inconsiderable cost, and while they weren't all mind blowing, they were enjoyable and Lair of the Shadow Broker was everything I wanted it to be and more.
Really just catching up to this gamer entitlement/internet outrage drama but... if you have the CE then I'd imagine that this Day 1 DLC character is incorporated into the cost of that product, whereas if you bought the vanilla edition you didnt, yes?
Who is that guy, btw? Cuz... you do seem to have a lot of energy here.
really the people who aren't buying the CE are the winners
Basically! There's a ton more too.
People have gotten spoiled by suspension of disbelief and have constructed some rather insane notions of what 'realistic' is. Truth of the matter is that ridiculous stuff happens all the damn time and our books and movies that people decry as 'unrealistic' are usually far more conservative than the truth of what actually happens.
People don't want realism, even if they claim they do. They want stuff to follow contrived narrative convention that requires justification for everything, even when nothing in reality actually works out that way. People are just really lucky a lot.
You're just jealous of the patch.
how did you know!
I was legit pissed when I couldn't get the CE due to sell outs but as soon as I found out it was day 1 dlc for cheaper I actually got happier
But... who would help with the calibrations?
EDIT: Or better yet, if you don't like him, kill him off in ME2.
I heard a minor spoiler that involves the dog in a scene onboard the Normandy...
I buy the CEs for the artbooks even though they're small print. Getting the soundtracks is also a great perk too. Different strokes, I guess.
That was what tipped the scales for me. Seriously.
As Mark Twain wrote, "Fiction is obliged to stick to possibilities; truth is not."
I do think, though, that Washington deserves a tremendous amount of credit for twice preventing the U.S. from becoming a military dictatorship once when he resigned from his commission as commander and chief and ceding authority back the the legislature. And also for talking his former officers out of mutiny when it became clear that the Continental Congress couldn't give them the back pay they were owed.
Also, I so hope people cancel their orders for this DLC nonsense, specifically someone ordering the CE through amazon. I wants me a robot dog.
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I can agree with that, and I'm not going to knock Washington as a total idiot or incompetent, but he was never the best guy for the roles he ended up playing. There were superior military men and politicians surrounding him for most of his life. He gets the heroism and acclaim partially because he got very, very lucky. Much like Shepard, he had opportunities the more able people did not have, or turned down. Which is how heroes arise.
so this whole day 1 thing is total BS because I MUST HAVE IT REGARDLESS
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Cloak -> Cryo -> Boom = Kill
Alternately:
Cloak -> Cryo -> Sticky Grenade = Bloody Chunks
I'm also annoyed that towards the end, waves on gold usually look like this: Phantom/Atlas/Atlas/Phantom/Atlas/Phantom
and why do some people already have Krogans/Quarians unlocked?
Six endings... that is a lot more than I was expecting.
Some people got lucky.
I hate them.
I got a Quarian from the more expensive packs. Buddy of mine got a Krogan and Turian the same way.
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You can randomly unlock one alien per class through the recruit/vetran packs in the store.
Quarian Engineer, Drell Vanguard, Krogan Soldier, Turian Sentinel, Asari Adept and Salarian Infiltrator are the only ones available in the demo.