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[Mass Effect] Lay off the DLC arguments. USE SPOILER TAGS
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Well, when it comes to developers talking about endings, I tend to cut that number in half ever since Fallout 3. Still, even if we got three actually different endings, that's still much greater than ME1 or ME2.
I'm sniper/shotgun, but the shotgun doesn't do shit against their barrier and the ice doesn't really slow them
They kill most other classes really quickly.
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I like to turn and try to outrun the nearest teammate. It's the same basic strategy for dealing with a bear attack
Yeah, memories of the claim that Fallout 3 had "hundreds of endings" was fresh in my mind as I read that. And even if we half it, I've got a feeling the endings probably won't be radically different... but dammit, I want to believe.
I don't know how I feel about that. Same minor spoiler discussion below.
This is mock disappointment, of course. Power alone doesn't win a sparring match - I guess the scene is supposed to show Vega isn't just a dumb grunt, but can also strategize.
he acknowledges that by not counting character death permutations and such as separate endings
I'm pretty sure you can see my erection from the moon right now.
The 2012 issue of Fornax. | Steam and Origin: Espressosaurus
I think it's more to the fact that...
Bioware/EA has annoyed me alot as a PC game consumer. Half-assed promotions, expensive DLC, tedious to download/install DLC, lack of support for older games, lack of 'complete' editions of games. Sometimes I want to give them my money and they make it difficult, sometimes I give them my money and they make it difficult, sometimes they give me alot less for my money than I expected.
The key word is expected. Steam (and developers who put their games on Steam) has raised the expectations of service. I'm not complaining about quality of content (except in the case of some DLCs, notably a few of the Dragon Age ones) but on ease of buying and using said content.
I'm OK with 'free' day-1 DLC that requires a code. (I think the general gaming community is as well) They want to provide an incentive for people to buy the game new so they get more $$$. But major day-1 DLC that costs *extra* is where we start to get into a funny place. Especially in regards to sequels to established franchises. That shit don't fly with new IP, but they know they milk us for ME3. The problem is, they're doing it with cold hands so rather than say: 'cool more content, take my milk' we're all like "WTF!! If you're gonna grab me down there, at least make it comfortable by warming up your hands first."
It feels greedy. Imagine if ME3 were released with only 5 classes,no Vanguard. But the Vanguard was day-1 DLC that cost $10. We're no longer two steps form that place, we're now only one. I, you, and EA knows that alot of folks would pay up for that too.
edit: this thread moves way too fast for an old man like me
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I really hope I only care about getting one of them and the others are various flavors of "human powah!", "Geth Victory" or "You fucked up badly Shepard" I can safely ignore.
I don't like changing my choices on replays.
Like Apollo 13. The movie showed a damn disaster, and by a miracle they got out alive. Real life was even worse and more unlikely.
The 2012 issue of Fornax. | Steam and Origin: Espressosaurus
Big companies greedy? Never.
Think about it this way -- the DLC is very much worth the $10 or $20 now, isn't it? Think of the value you get for your money! I think we should actually be thanking Bioware for offering such a good deal in this age of horse armor DLC and shit.
Or real life military crazy stories
Like the one where when they made a movie of his exploits he requested they tone it down because audiences would find it unrealistic
Fallout New Vegas had a bunch of different endings...though the final fight sequence was largely the same. Does that count?
The 2012 issue of Fornax. | Steam and Origin: Espressosaurus
You have to unlock the opposite genders in the full game too.
Honestly, I wish they would have given the Male/Female humans something to set them apart rather than just the aesthetics. Even just one power difference would make them not feel like we're totally wasting a spot. Or they could roll them into the appearance tab.
You really think fucking paying customers out of features that pirates get on day one doesn't increase piracy?
Really? Really?
Someone better call valve and tell them their entire business model of "provide a better service to paying customers" is wrong, if you can get them to stop swimming in their money bins long enough to take the phone call.
I guess I'll drop it. Frankly I think half of you would be totally okay with any amount of day 1 dlc at any price, if you can't even acknowledge that as a long term trend its bad for the industry. We'll just have to agree to disagree.
It forces variation. I also like how they screw with gender roles. Default Vangod is a woman. Just as like my femshep. Awwww yeah.
The 2012 issue of Fornax. | Steam and Origin: Espressosaurus
And yet I cannot make myself stop playing it /sigh I need help.
The biggest enemy of the combat engineer's turret is patience. If you go away and do something else it blows up fairly quickly.
Guardians are bullshit, you should never charge them when they are not alone because they will very frequently (about a third of the time) ignore that they should be knocked back and just punch you in the face.
The Atlas has a melee attack that will instakill you.
The time needed for the hacking objective scales with the number of players, making it easier to solo than I would have expected.
I fixed that. Because nerd-rage alone would make that be awesome...
So I should pay 60 bucks for the base game, 26 for the artbook plus S&H for both, 10 bucks for Day 1 DLC, and eventually when it gets released as a pack of its own some of my MS spacebucks for the alternate costumes too?
For an artbook that is ultimately just going to make for something to look at other than the walls and my bathtub and sink?
See here's an area where I'd be totally supportive of day 1 DLC: more multiplayer appearances, armor graphics, gizmos, pom poms, whatever the fuck
I'd gladly pay to have a yahg as an alternative appearance for the krogan or something
Also: Day 1 DLC is not inherently evil. If it's something you could get in the collector's edition or was actually made after the game went gold then it's legit.
If it's like anything Capcom has been up to lately then it's pure bullshit.
I don't see where the argument is here. Entitled gamers etc.
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I don't have the budget to be shelling out for major lore stuff that should have been part of the main game to begin with.
I am not a fan of trying to melee a Phantom even with Krogan. They have a one hit kill just like the Atlas. Unless the Krogan is behind them it's a BAD idea.
Keep the unlocking of the appearance tab tied to unlocking more of the cards then, but I don't see why we need separate Male/Female human versions of all the classes if they have the same powersets.
It just means we waste time unlocking them instead of cool aliens who have new and exciting gameplay that humans don't have. Like how Drell can wreck Guardians with pull while the male human vanguard plays exactly the same as the female human vanguard.
it's not major. It only sounds major because it sounds like something you'd want to play.
If it were major, the game would not be completeable without it.
Apollo 13 was an amazing thing. That Nasa got them home was as big, if not bigger, than landing on the moon IMHO.
Edit: Do they still have their 'no casualties in space' record?
According to Apollo 18, no.
Oh....wait....
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Zaeed has a very high Hold the Line score, though. So there's that.
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the DLC is free with the digital delux edition or the collector's edition both of which cost 20 bucks more than the standard
The 2012 issue of Fornax. | Steam and Origin: Espressosaurus
I keep hearing this
I guess people define free differently than me... I switched my preorder to DD so I mean I'm getting it, but I don't have to be happy about it. If it was any other EA franchise than BF or ME this shit wouldn't fly with me.
You watch though, EA's going to try this with everything, new IPs, mediocre shooters, etc.