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  • unintentionalunintentional Registered User regular
    Arthil wrote:
    i want to hear more about the trait system

    i wonder how many good traits you can take with you

    can you change what traits you have unlocked, the way you could reshuffle your attribute points?

    Pretty sure respeccing traits can be done at any time, dunno if there is a fee. You have enough points at 80 to fill out 2 and a half entire lines of traits, ends up being 30 points to fill out a line?

    hrm

    this is something i'm going to have to mess around with in person to understand

    that sounds like a lot of traits at once though so that'll be fun!

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  • RednazRednaz Registered User
    i want to hear more about the trait system

    i wonder how many good traits you can take with you

    can you change what traits you have unlocked, the way you could reshuffle your attribute points?

    http://www.necrobator.com/features/a-closer-look-at-necromancer-traits/

    Basically, trait points increase stats and stuff, while every 5 points unlocks a minor or major trait for that line (up to 30 points per line, 3 minor and 3 major traits per line, 70 points earned when you reach max level). It looks like you can have 7 minor and 7 major traits.

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  • ArthilArthil Lord Commander Ursus Maximus Registered User regular
    Arthil wrote:
    i want to hear more about the trait system

    i wonder how many good traits you can take with you

    can you change what traits you have unlocked, the way you could reshuffle your attribute points?

    Pretty sure respeccing traits can be done at any time, dunno if there is a fee. You have enough points at 80 to fill out 2 and a half entire lines of traits, ends up being 30 points to fill out a line?

    hrm

    this is something i'm going to have to mess around with in person to understand

    that sounds like a lot of traits at once though so that'll be fun!

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    Looking at this image... it seems that you gain particular stat benefits depending on -which- line you go into. 5 points in you get a Minor Trait... you will get all of them, 10 points in you choose your Major trait, 15 minor, 20 major etc etc.

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  • World as MythWorld as Myth Registered User regular
    Corehealer wrote:
    Basil wrote: »
    Yays! Signed up and stuff.

    I wonder how big the grins are over on the inside.

    I'd wager pretty big.

    Confirmed. ArenaNet grins are officially pretty big.

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  • unintentionalunintentional Registered User regular
    okay so if you look at this
    http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/List_of_necromancer_traits

    if you put 30 points into Spite

    you will get the passive 30% increased condition duration and 300 Power
    you will get the adept, the master, and the grandmaster traits (parasitic bond, death into life, siphoned power)
    you will get to choose any three of the seven major spite traits

    do i have this right

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  • CorehealerCorehealer The Apothecary Your Dark Descent FriendRegistered User regular
    Corehealer wrote:
    Basil wrote: »
    Yays! Signed up and stuff.

    I wonder how big the grins are over on the inside.

    I'd wager pretty big.

    Confirmed. ArenaNet grins are officially pretty big.

    Soon to be followed by equally big grins here and around the world.

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  • ArthilArthil Lord Commander Ursus Maximus Registered User regular
    okay so if you look at this
    http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/List_of_necromancer_traits

    if you put 30 points into Spite

    you will get the passive 30% increased condition duration and 300 Power
    you will get the adept, the master, and the grandmaster traits (parasitic bond, death into life, siphoned power)
    you will get to choose any three of the seven major spite traits

    do i have this right

    I believe so, yeah!

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  • TopiaTopia Registered User regular
    edit: I am bad at reading

    Topia on
  • shrykeshryke Registered User regular
    No, it's like unintentional describes above (from what we've seen obviously)

    - You get a stat boost for every point in that line. Each line gives a specific set of 2 stats.
    - at 5, 15, and 25 points in that line, you get specific minor traits. Always the same ones for each level of each line. (ie - you always get the same minor trait at 5 points and that minor trait is specific to the 5 point level of that line. Same for all the other minor traits)
    - at 10, 20 and 30 points, you get to choose from that line's pool of 7 major traits. The pool is the same for all 3 levels. (ie - each line gets 7 possible choices. At 10 points, you choose one of them. At 20 points, you choose another from the remaining six and so on. These traits are specific to that line.)

    So if you max out a line at 30 points, you get the max stat boost from that line, all 3 minor traits for that line and a choice of 3 of the 7 major traits from that line.

    You've got 70 points so you can max out 2 lines and go part way up a third, or spread it out or whatever.

    shryke on
  • unintentionalunintentional Registered User regular
    shryke wrote:
    No, it's like unintentional describes above (from what we've seen obviously)

    - You get a stat boost for every point in that line. Each line gives a specific set of 2 stats.
    - at 5, 15, and 25 points in that line, you get specific minor traits. Always the same ones for each level of each line. (ie - you always get the same minor trait at 5 points and that minor trait is specific to the 5 point level of that line. Same for all the other minor traits)
    - at 10, 20 and 30 points, you get to choose from that line's pool of 7 major traits. The pool is the same for all 3 levels. (ie - each line gets 7 possible choices. At 10 points, you choose one of them. At 20 points, you choose another from the remaining six and so on. These traits are specific to that line.)

    So if you max out a line at 30 points, you get the max stat boost from that line, all 3 minor traits for that line and a choice of 3 of the 7 major traits from that line.

    You've got 80 points so you can max out 2 lines and go most of the way up a third, or spread it out or whatever.

    you only get seventy points, as far as i can tell
    no points for levels 1-10
    one point per level for 11-80

    you cannot go past tier one until you hit level 40, you cannot go past tier two until you hit level 60

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  • shrykeshryke Registered User regular
    Yeah, just fixed that.

  • unintentionalunintentional Registered User regular
    one thing that's inconsistent still is that in here it says there's "roughly 100 traits per profession"
    http://www.guildwars2.com/en/the-game/combat/traits-overview/

    but the 3 minor 7 major * 5 attribute setup we're seeing is only 50 traits!

    wonder if it got cut completely in half since that development stage? i mean it's a completely different system compared to the current one so I guess it wouldn't be that surprising

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  • Cobalt60Cobalt60 Registered User regular
    Some have more than 7 major traits per line from what I saw on the wiki.

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  • QuintessinQuintessin Registered User regular
    Wait, you get points at 11, not 10? That seems odds. Is it 70 or 71?

  • RednazRednaz Registered User
    Quintessin wrote: »
    Wait, you get points at 11, not 10? That seems odds. Is it 70 or 71?

    70. the extra point wouldn't give you access to another minor or major trait anyways.

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  • UnluckyUnlucky Registered User regular
    God I hope this game is super majorly successful. I've never wanted a game company to succeed so badly until GW2.

    Signed up. Let's see how this goes.

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  • Kevin CristKevin Crist Look at the faces. Listen to the bells. It's hard to believe we need a place called hell.Registered User regular
  • EnigEnig a.k.a. Ansatz Registered User regular
    There are so many trait choices. That is going to be a very significant part of building your character. I think it is going to be hard to decide which traits to go for.

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  • RednazRednaz Registered User
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  • MEN INTO POSITION QUICKLYMEN INTO POSITION QUICKLY Registered User regular
    Unless, like so many other games, there is a clearly superior path which absolutely everyone takes.

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  • shrykeshryke Registered User regular
    There's not going to be a clearly superior path since what's superior will depend on the weapons and skills you choose, which in turn depends on what style you choose to play as.

    Of course, for a specific weapon and style there's very likely to be some kind of accepted optimization, but there's nothing wrong with that (and it's rather inevitable)

    What matters is that there's enough choice in different styles to begin with.

  • naengwennaengwen Registered User regular
    Not to mention that sticking with specific weapons is likely to gimp you pretty hard, least from what the vids have shown. The optimal build for a weapon is likely to get blown away by someone who knows them all, regardless of traits.

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  • shrykeshryke Registered User regular
    Anyone changing up their weapons beyond the 2 sets available (or 1 for certain classes) is likely to redo their traits at the same time.

  • EnigEnig a.k.a. Ansatz Registered User regular
    You actually need to build your traits for two weapon sets at once. I'm not sure even the internet is going to fully optimise that much complexity. At least not for some time.

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  • KlykaKlyka DO you have any SPARE BATTERIES?Registered User regular

    That sounds like the most useless trait ever. It's something no one will ever spec into I bet :D

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  • FlayFlay Registered User regular
    Klyka wrote: »

    That sounds like the most useless trait ever. It's something no one will ever spec into I bet :D

    Just think of the hilarity ensuing in WvW as an an unsuspecting enemy battalion is brought to submission by the fartstorm of twenty rouges launched from the precipice of a besieged tower.

    Flay on
  • lu tzelu tze Registered User
    Klyka wrote: »
    That sounds like the most useless trait ever. It's something no one will ever spec into I bet :D
    Yeah, what the christ?

    Could be marginally useful if it's proc'd by things like knockdowns and knockbacks... but marginal is the operative word.

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  • Cobalt60Cobalt60 Registered User regular
    A.Net is pretty good at making all things balanced even if they look shit on paper.

    You used to be called a noob if you brought along Frenzy in GW1 when the game launched, 3 months later lo and behold Frenzy is a staple skill for warriors in GvG.

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  • BasilBasil Registered User regular
    Nothing wrong with getting a poison effect off on people by dropping down on them in my book.

    Traits like that seem to me to be part of this pressure thing. Just being in contact with the enemy necessitates the use of boons, self heals and cleanses even if you're not being directly targeted by the assist train. Unless that ain't the case and I'm wrooooooooooong.

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  • KlykaKlyka DO you have any SPARE BATTERIES?Registered User regular
    I want it to be bugged and trigger every time you land from a jump.
    Then you make a macro that just jumps and shouts "FART".

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  • BasilBasil Registered User regular
    I'd expect nothing less from you, Klyka. Nothing less.

    <3

    I am making a sly jest at your expense.

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  • am0nam0n Registered User regular
    Enig wrote: »
    You actually need to build your traits for two weapon sets at once. I'm not sure even the internet is going to fully optimise that much complexity. At least not for some time.

    Oh, we will. It's what min-maxers do.

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  • KlykaKlyka DO you have any SPARE BATTERIES?Registered User regular
    There are going to be wikis out with the strongest current builds before the game is even released.
    It's just how it works.

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  • HullabalooHullabaloo Registered User regular
    Don't know if someone else has already said it in this thread, but it's worth repeating that if you signed up with a gmail account as @gmail.com and haven't already got a confirmation e-mail, try resubmitting the beta request with @googlemail.com. This comes straight from the guild wars twitter.

    I registered this morning with the former and still had no confirmation, but almost instantly got it signing up with the latter.

    Hullabaloo on
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  • SlimceaSlimcea Registered User regular
    Klyka wrote: »
    There are going to be wikis out with the strongest current builds before the game is even released.
    It's just how it works.

    So long as they refresh the PvP metagame on a regular basis like back in the beginning of Guild Wars (was it a month between FOTMs?), it should be OK.

    PvE powerbuilds will probably take longer. Took a few months before the 55-monk caught on.

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  • EnigEnig a.k.a. Ansatz Registered User regular
    I didn't get my e-mail (at gmail.com account) yesterday when I signed up. However, this morning I asked for a re-send request at https://beta.guildwars2.com/resend and got the e-mail immediately.

    Enig on
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  • KlykaKlyka DO you have any SPARE BATTERIES?Registered User regular
    I am going to be the most charming Sylvari thief.
    I shall steal all the salad dressing.

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  • SarksusSarksus TEN FUCKING DOLLARS Registered User regular
    Yup, I got it after using that page. Last night the page was broken but it appears to be working now.

  • DedwrekkaDedwrekka Registered User regular
    Klyka wrote: »
    There are going to be wikis out with the strongest current builds before the game is even released.
    It's just how it works.

    Except min-maxing is the worst thing you can do in GW2. Being able to be any of the trinity types doesn't just mean you can heal, tank, or DPS, it means you have to be able to do all of those things at any given point. If you min-max, you're going to be terrible at something (that's that the "min" means) and anything you "max" into is such a fleeting position due to cooldowns and the flow of combat that you're just gimping yourself.

  • KlykaKlyka DO you have any SPARE BATTERIES?Registered User regular
    You really believe people will not figure out "the best (tm)" for a class?
    Really?
    It's 2012 man.

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