It's weird how BBT really strikes a nerve with 'the internet', so much complaining about the terrible characters, terrible writing etc. etc.
And yet Chuck is held in much higher regard. Same shitty nerd jokes, similar stupid, unlikeable characters, similar ridiculous premise. I believe it's the worse show of the two.
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It's weird how BBT really strikes a nerve with 'the internet', so much complaining about the terrible characters, terrible writing etc. etc.
And yet Chuck is held in much higher regard. Same shitty nerd jokes, similar stupid, unlikeable characters, similar ridiculous premise. I believe it's the worse show of the two.
I have a hard time understanding where people are coming from when they talk about feeling condescended to by something created for mass appeal. Why would you assume you are considered the lowest common denominator or feel targeted by the creators marketing at all? Or is it something else entirely that I am missing?
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I have a hard time understanding where people are coming from when they talk about feeling condescended to by something created for mass appeal. Why would you assume you are considered the lowest common denominator or feel targeted by the creators marketing at all? Or is it something else entirely that I am missing?
When you laugh at Sheldon it feels like you're laughing at Sheldon.
If your cable goes out you can visit your local high school and do the same thing
Marty: The future, it's where you're going? Doc: That's right, twenty five years into the future. I've always dreamed on seeing the future, looking beyond my years, seeing the progress of mankind. I'll also be able to see who wins the next twenty-five world series.
Imagine if Seinfeld could hear his own laugh track
Now imagine if Sheldon could
Marty: The future, it's where you're going? Doc: That's right, twenty five years into the future. I've always dreamed on seeing the future, looking beyond my years, seeing the progress of mankind. I'll also be able to see who wins the next twenty-five world series.
is this still in the context of feeling condescended to by the show or are you making a separate point?
If humor feels condescending to you it is because it is being made at your expense
So obviously you have to think a certain way or have certain experiences or be a certain kind of person for the humor to not work on you, and this is an easy exercise to determine whether people are being laughed with or laughed at - whether they can identify with Joey reaching over to protect his sandwich from a bullet because good meatball sandwiches are heaven, or whether they can identify with the woman exasperated with Sheldon because he's denoting the specific gravity of the layers of his drink instead of paying attention to what she has to say.
There exists identity with the other side too: Chandler's exasperation and feeling that he was slighted by Joey when confronted with possible danger, and Sheldon's innocent fascination with natural complexities that make normal communication seem mundane and trivial. However, there can be a bias towards one side or the other, and if you find yourself unable to identify with a character in a humorous situation for too many sketches, they basically become a stooge.
What do you do when you see a stooge in reality? What if that stooge was a nerd?
Marty: The future, it's where you're going? Doc: That's right, twenty five years into the future. I've always dreamed on seeing the future, looking beyond my years, seeing the progress of mankind. I'll also be able to see who wins the next twenty-five world series.
but what that seems to imply to me is that you force yourself to feel represented by someone you don't really relate to because you perceive that writers who've never met you are targeting you with it
which doesn't make sense to me. I guess maybe I've just never identified with a group that heavily
I have a hard time understanding where people are coming from when they talk about feeling condescended to by something created for mass appeal. Why would you assume you are considered the lowest common denominator or feel targeted by the creators marketing at all? Or is it something else entirely that I am missing?
The reason some people find it condescending is because all of the jokes are "look how awkward and weird nerds are", when a lot of the marketing message is "Hey nerds, this is a show for you!"
but what that seems to imply to me is that you force yourself to feel represented by someone you don't really relate to because you perceive that writers who've never met you are targeting you with it
which doesn't make sense to me. I guess maybe I've just never identified with a group that heavily
If you don't have any sore spots in your personal history you probably would have never had to
Marty: The future, it's where you're going? Doc: That's right, twenty five years into the future. I've always dreamed on seeing the future, looking beyond my years, seeing the progress of mankind. I'll also be able to see who wins the next twenty-five world series.
Oh I've been categorized a lot in my life, I've just always considered them vague identifiers or descriptions based on individual perspectives, not my actual identity
but I do understand where you guys are coming from now so thanks for that
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oh my god
or something?
Some dude goes to heaven and bangs hot chicks there?
That seems like a thing that would be in a porno
God damn this is probably my favorite "meeting another famous person" anecdote line ever.
With john waters, justin bieber, and that wording, it's like the perfect fucking storm of eccentrics interracting
where did you get this gif of me
what's that from pipe?
If only Adam Pally would gay marry me
That's from a 5 Second Film.
I recognize the lady.
angels are hot
So did it hurt, Mr Fuzzbutt?
When you fell from heaven?
Yeah
I probably would too
there were some evil angels in there too they had black victoria secret modeling style wings instead of white
did you masturbate to it, Wimble?
you go to hell
you go to hell and you die
BAZINGA
I have never and will never
I am trying to build a spirit bomb over here I can't have any kind of release
Chuck was just a clever spy movie spoof.
So you're saying I need to give you some of my energy
I have a hard time understanding where people are coming from when they talk about feeling condescended to by something created for mass appeal. Why would you assume you are considered the lowest common denominator or feel targeted by the creators marketing at all? Or is it something else entirely that I am missing?
You know that's right.
But they're literally glowing!
When you laugh at Sheldon it feels like you're laughing at Sheldon.
If your cable goes out you can visit your local high school and do the same thing
Doc: That's right, twenty five years into the future. I've always dreamed on seeing the future, looking beyond my years, seeing the progress of mankind. I'll also be able to see who wins the next twenty-five world series.
I'm not even that tired
Imagine if Seinfeld could hear his own laugh track
Now imagine if Sheldon could
Doc: That's right, twenty five years into the future. I've always dreamed on seeing the future, looking beyond my years, seeing the progress of mankind. I'll also be able to see who wins the next twenty-five world series.
is this still in the context of feeling condescended to by the show or are you making a separate point?
If humor feels condescending to you it is because it is being made at your expense
So obviously you have to think a certain way or have certain experiences or be a certain kind of person for the humor to not work on you, and this is an easy exercise to determine whether people are being laughed with or laughed at - whether they can identify with Joey reaching over to protect his sandwich from a bullet because good meatball sandwiches are heaven, or whether they can identify with the woman exasperated with Sheldon because he's denoting the specific gravity of the layers of his drink instead of paying attention to what she has to say.
There exists identity with the other side too: Chandler's exasperation and feeling that he was slighted by Joey when confronted with possible danger, and Sheldon's innocent fascination with natural complexities that make normal communication seem mundane and trivial. However, there can be a bias towards one side or the other, and if you find yourself unable to identify with a character in a humorous situation for too many sketches, they basically become a stooge.
What do you do when you see a stooge in reality? What if that stooge was a nerd?
Doc: That's right, twenty five years into the future. I've always dreamed on seeing the future, looking beyond my years, seeing the progress of mankind. I'll also be able to see who wins the next twenty-five world series.
which doesn't make sense to me. I guess maybe I've just never identified with a group that heavily
The reason some people find it condescending is because all of the jokes are "look how awkward and weird nerds are", when a lot of the marketing message is "Hey nerds, this is a show for you!"
If you don't have any sore spots in your personal history you probably would have never had to
Doc: That's right, twenty five years into the future. I've always dreamed on seeing the future, looking beyond my years, seeing the progress of mankind. I'll also be able to see who wins the next twenty-five world series.
but I do understand where you guys are coming from now so thanks for that
Seriously holy shit I am dying