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Dhalphir · March 2012

It sounds like you want to do bad builds and win anyway.

MNC Dover · March 2012

First ever CKTP games for me vs Narwhal. Basically, mEEks was coaching Narwhal in real-time and Yilias was helping me.

I noticed a HUGE difference with Yilias guiding me through the builds. Little things like scout timing or when to build what and upgrade. Money stayed low (for me at least) and I felt a lot more comfortable playing by the time the fourth game was done. This really made a difference.

So yeah, keep it up guys! CKTP for life!

JRosey · March 2012

Dhalphir wrote: »

It sounds like you want to do bad builds and win anyway.

Or I just prefer micro over macro? Up until now I thought both were viable in SCII.

kedinik · March 2012

JRosey wrote: »

Dhalphir wrote: »

It sounds like you want to do bad builds and win anyway.

Or I just prefer micro over macro? Up until now I thought both were viable in SCII.

I mean generally speaking if you're good at one and bad at the other you'll lose to someone who's good at both.

But if you would prefer to just blink-stalker all-in all the time and just become as successful as possible with semi-cheesy high micro low-econ builds, more power to you. Seriously.

Dhalphir · March 2012

JRosey wrote: »

Dhalphir wrote: »

It sounds like you want to do bad builds and win anyway.

Or I just prefer micro over macro? Up until now I thought both were viable in SCII.

One base allins are perfecltly viable in pvz. I am not sure what your issue is here.

Kb9kahne · March 2012

I would like to apologize for anyone who watched the finals of that tourney, I should have won that

Yilias · March 2012

MNC Dover wrote: »

First ever CKTP games for me vs Narwhal. Basically, mEEks was coaching Narwhal in real-time and Yilias was helping me.

I noticed a HUGE difference with Yilias guiding me through the builds. Little things like scout timing or when to build what and upgrade. Money stayed low (for me at least) and I felt a lot more comfortable playing by the time the fourth game was done. This really made a difference.

So yeah, keep it up guys! CKTP for life!

I really enjoyed doing this and I'm glad I was able to help.

Sorry I didn't lead you to victory in the first two games though, and for giving you bad Viking habits! D:

JRosey · March 2012

Dhalphir wrote: »

JRosey wrote: »

Dhalphir wrote: »

It sounds like you want to do bad builds and win anyway.

Or I just prefer micro over macro? Up until now I thought both were viable in SCII.

One base allins are perfecltly viable in pvz. I am not sure what your issue is here.

Feel free to share your knowledge here.

Dhalphir · March 2012

JRosey wrote: »

Dhalphir wrote: »

JRosey wrote: »

Dhalphir wrote: »

It sounds like you want to do bad builds and win anyway.

Or I just prefer micro over macro? Up until now I thought both were viable in SCII.

One base allins are perfecltly viable in pvz. I am not sure what your issue is here.

Feel free to share your knowledge here.

4gate, executed well, will still beat a ton of zergs at a low-medium level.

4gate blink allins still beat very very good zergs quite often. Warp prism 4gate is an excellent way to bypass a bunch of spine crawlers to get an easy win. One base immortal/sentry/zealot is a powerful all-in if you can lay down good forcefields.

hlprmnky · March 2012

Dover, I still cannot access the new CKTP spreadsheet. Halp I am not good with computer with your clouds and your privacy settings oh god when did I become old

narwhal · March 2012

Hey meeks, thanks for the tips and teaching me the new build, I think it's pretty cool

I would totes be up for more of these training sessions, I learned a lot

Dhalphir · March 2012

NaDa playing starcraft master
http://www.twitch.tv/col_nada/b/310698297?t=2h38m25s

Hummingbird · March 2012

Dhalphir wrote: »

4gate, executed well, will still beat a ton of zergs at a low-medium level.

4gate blink allins still beat very very good zergs quite often. Warp prism 4gate is an excellent way to bypass a bunch of spine crawlers to get an easy win. One base immortal/sentry/zealot is a powerful all-in if you can lay down good forcefields.

Or if they misread. http://drop.sc/129619 just now 8)

EDIT: PS Dhal, now the real challenge is, can you make SEA GM mid-season? Or an even better challenge, NA GM mid-season

kedinik · March 2012

I have just been informed that the Just Cheese League defeated Vari's Varis to face us in the finals.

Well if it isn't our favorite enemies from the regular season, kekeke.

mysticjuicer · March 2012

Dhalphir wrote: »

NaDa playing starcraft master
http://www.twitch.tv/col_nada/b/310698297?t=2h38m25s

"Fighting! ...oh! Oh no. ... ...oh."

Sceptre · March 2012

JRosey wrote: »

I really, really hate that there is no way to win PvZ reliably without a fast expansion. It makes the matchup feel broken to me. I prefer to make my own builds and strategies, and being forced to do what every other protoss does makes it super lame. I don't even enjoy the game when it's PvZ anymore.

Learning to FFE is really the best way to improve as protoss. It lets you do whatever you want behind it, it is great for someone looking to make their own builds. I'm sure most zergs can attest, 2 base timings are far more frightening than a single base all in, and they offer plenty of room for micro.

And this is coming from someone who resisted learning to FFE for a loooooooong time.

MNC Dover · March 2012

hlprmnky wrote: »

Dover, I still cannot access the new CKTP spreadsheet. Halp I am not good with computer with your clouds and your privacy settings oh god when did I become old

I thought I made it public, I'll check again. Is anyone else having the same problem?

Dhalphir · March 2012

Its possible that people are using the link to the spreadsheet and trying to edit thir details directly into it. That had me stumped for a minute until i realised there was a separate link for a form to enter the details.

fatalspoons · March 2012

pa custom game nights. I love them.

ImthebOHGODBEES · March 2012

Believe me, as a zerg playing against protoss, it's frustrating knowing that IF he does anything 1 base, I have to do the set response to it or I die. And if he FFAs, I have to do a different response or I die. I don't get any choice in what game I actually play until/unless I survive 14 or so minutes without him killing me. And even then my game is 75% decided by what he's doing. And of course if you try any cheese, and I'm more than 5 seconds slow in responding to it I die. I feel like PvZ I don't win, I just have to wait for you to screw something up and lose.

815165 · March 2012

you always have a choice

just 6 pool that motherfucker and drone behind it

Trunkers · March 2012

JRosey wrote: »

I really, really hate that there is no way to win PvZ reliably without a fast expansion. It makes the matchup feel broken to me. I prefer to make my own builds and strategies, and being forced to do what every other protoss does makes it super lame. I don't even enjoy the game when it's PvZ anymore.

I win most my ladder PvZs on one base.

override367 · March 2012

Man I like starcraft, and on boards and organized communities its great, but it's worse than fucking xbox live on the ladder. Why can't gamers behave like human beings in like, any video game

Variable · March 2012

kedinik wrote: »

I have just been informed that the Just Cheese League defeated Vari's Varis to face us in the finals.

Well if it isn't our favorite enemies from the regular season, kekeke.

38th and joe k's games were played?

fuck

Dhalphir · March 2012

override367 wrote: »

Man I like starcraft, and on boards and organized communities its great, but it's worse than fucking xbox live on the ladder. Why can't gamers behave like human beings in like, any video game

i really dont have any significant problems with bad manner on ladder.

Trunkers · March 2012

override367 wrote: »

Man I like starcraft, and on boards and organized communities its great, but it's worse than fucking xbox live on the ladder. Why can't gamers behave like human beings in like, any video game

???

My SC2 opponents have on the whole been incredibly well mannered compared to Xbox Live. Maybe it's that it takes more effort for people to type mean things than spit them over the mic, but... I would take the SC2 crowd over XBL any day.

Spoiler:

RedOne · March 2012

sc2 has some really hilarious BM though
because they are frothing in so much rage
that they just say some very off the wall shit

theSquid · March 2012

Someone needs to link Gheed's blog now.

Or for that matter When Cheese Fails.

All kinds of BM in those two things.

Variable · March 2012

I will say, even when I use to rage really bad, I always made sense and never used sexist or racist language

very very small almost invisible dot of pride that I take in that

His Corkiness · March 2012

All foreigners got knocked out of the Code A qualifiers again. Naniwa didn't participate, so there's a chance he already has a seed. Cella is 1-1 in the finals against a 300-point Masters player who got Byes all the way to the finals.

edit: 300-point Masters player wins and is now in Code A.

RedOne · March 2012

His Corkiness wrote: »

All foreigners got knocked out of the Code A qualifiers again. Naniwa didn't participate, so there's a chance he already has a seed. Cella is 1-1 in the finals against a 300-point Masters player who got Byes all the way to the finals.

Hahahaha jesus christ

also

you guys might enjoy this replay

http://drop.sc/129680

Terran player rushes BATTLE CRUISERS. I botched a roach opener that Hummingbird taught me, but I drone really hard behind it so I end up okay... then a Battlecruiser shows up to my base and I'm just like... what

It does some decent damage, but then I get hydras out and his subsequent attacks fail. Then he makes a tank and some hellions and goes all in with an SCV pull which dies to hydras, lings and a bunch of mutas.

WHAT he is PLATINUM how is the
dks
difojdisd

Had a similar weird build earlier tonight vs a Zerg who went 1 base roach rush against me, which I hold off with zerglings. Then he nydus's me and I managed to hold it off. He takes a fast third to catch up,b ut then I just a-move a small roach/hydra force to his base and win.

I'm done for the night this is madness

RedOne · March 2012

how are these guys platinum seriously

RedOne · March 2012

the BC rush guy used to be DIAMOND what the hell is going on

Dhalphir · March 2012

lucky placements, probably.

theSquid · March 2012

Dhalphir wrote: »

lucky placements, probably.

*sage nod*

Dhalphir · March 2012

Be interesting to see what changes in HotS to enable Protoss to deal with Broodlord/Infestor.

As it stands right now, if they removed the mothership but changed nothing else, lategame PvZ would be unwinnable. I'm curious to see what will change in HotS to make that no longer the case after they remove the mothership.

Ratsult2 · March 2012

RedOne wrote: »

how are these guys platinum seriously

I'm a platinum protoss and I've never:
researched blink/charge/storm
built a stargate/dark shrine
and the real kicker

Spoiler:

Biosys · March 2012

YO

streammuuuuu~

http://www.twitch.tv/biosys

join me on my futile journey for masterssss

Rofflor · March 2012

Im so fucking sad that Naniwa isn't in code S.

But seriously, in platinum and never researched storm? Are you playing sc2, the first 6 months edition?

PoolCue · March 2012

oh man sc2 the first 6 months edition was a fun time

TLO winning all the tournaments with cool tactics

50 thousand builds for each race being viable

steppes of war

good times

Penny Arcade

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