[Mass Effect] SPOILER ALL ME3 DISCUSSION. EVERY SINGLE BIT. EVEN HINTS.

Extreaminatus · March 2012

Mild Confusion wrote: »

Sagroth wrote: »

Ending aside, there was a lot of stuff I really liked. Here's a shorthand list:

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-Moridin went out like a bro.
-Target practice with Garrus.
-Drunk Tali is best Tali.
-Calibration jokes.
-Dakka system.
-Geth origin was heartrending.
-Garrus/Joker joke-off

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I forgot about drunk Tali, that was awesome. What did she call it? A 'liquid consumption device'?

That's a straw Tali...

Did anyone else...

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End up killing Mordin and Wrex? Broke my heart to do it, but all those lines from Wrex about his 'jokes' on taking over after the war and the promise of Salarian warships pushed me to the Daltress' side.

Killing Wrex and Mordin to save the galaxy made me sad, but it did lead to another moment of Garrus being awesome. You can confess to him and he'll understand.

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Cambiata · March 2012

Also, Tuchanka

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Cambiata · March 2012

Cambiata wrote: »

Mild Confusion wrote: »

Sagroth wrote: »

Ending aside, there was a lot of stuff I really liked. Here's a shorthand list:

Spoiler:

-Moridin went out like a bro.
-Target practice with Garrus.
-Drunk Tali is best Tali.
-Calibration jokes.
-Dakka system.
-Geth origin was heartrending.
-Garrus/Joker joke-off

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I forgot about drunk Tali, that was awesome. What did she call it? A 'liquid consumption device'?

That's a straw Tali...

EMERGENCY. INDUCTION. PORT.

Edit: Ha ha, two people beat me.

Deaderinred · March 2012

doing the dlc and i totally called that screenshot of

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piL · March 2012

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Sagroth · March 2012

Overall game impression spoilers:

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Sagroth · March 2012

Also, one neat thing that totally took me by surprise(Team member spoilers):

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JohnDoe · March 2012

Orca wrote: »

Mild Confusion wrote: »

Sagroth wrote: »

Ending aside, there was a lot of stuff I really liked. Here's a shorthand list:

Spoiler:

-Moridin went out like a bro.
-Target practice with Garrus.
-Drunk Tali is best Tali.
-Calibration jokes.
-Dakka system.
-Geth origin was heartrending.
-Garrus/Joker joke-off

Spoiler:

I forgot about drunk Tali, that was awesome. What did she call it? A 'liquid consumption device'?

That's a straw Tali...

EMERGENCY. INDUCTION. PORT.

Drunk Tali = best Tali

Mild Confusion · March 2012

Sagroth wrote: »

Overall game impression spoilers:

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I can't see this game being 1/10th as impactful unless you've played the other two. Seriously, all the best things were character moments. The gameplay was fine but I never came out of a fight thinking "that was awesome!" all of those moments came from dialogue. And that is why the ending is so jarring, I think. If the game had been all about the combat then I wouldn't have cared about the ending. They screwed themselves by setting the narrative bar so high everywhere else.

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kedinik · March 2012

Sagroth wrote: »

Also, one neat thing that totally took me by surprise(Team member spoilers):

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EDI is the rogue AI you tried to kill on Luna. Major shocker right there.

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Mild Confusion · March 2012

kedinik wrote: »

Sagroth wrote: »

Also, one neat thing that totally took me by surprise(Team member spoilers):

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EDI is the rogue AI you tried to kill on Luna. Major shocker right there.

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Agreed the game would basically suck if you hadn't played the prequels. Stated this to a friend who asked if I thought he would like diving straight into 3.

And the EDI reveal seemed contrived and, uh, kind of like a majorly overlooked plot hole given that Shepard was given a mission to destroy that AI in ME1.

I mean maybe you can choose to ignore that optional mission, but I certainly wiped that AI from existence.

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Sagroth · March 2012

Mild Confusion wrote: »

kedinik wrote: »

Sagroth wrote: »

Also, one neat thing that totally took me by surprise(Team member spoilers):

Spoiler:

EDI is the rogue AI you tried to kill on Luna. Major shocker right there.

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Agreed the game would basically suck if you hadn't played the prequels. Stated this to a friend who asked if I thought he would like diving straight into 3.

And the EDI reveal seemed contrived and, uh, kind of like a majorly overlooked plot hole given that Shepard was given a mission to destroy that AI in ME1.

I mean maybe you can choose to ignore that optional mission, but I certainly wiped that AI from existence.

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Shepard mentions you fought it. I kinda glossed over that reveal. It was inconsistent with the lore anyhow. Once you dislocate an AI from its blue box, it 'dies' and if reconnected, a whole new AI is born.

Also, don't you only go to the Moon if you were mostly paragon in ME1?

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Delta Assault · March 2012

kedinik wrote: »

Sagroth wrote: »

Also, one neat thing that totally took me by surprise(Team member spoilers):

Spoiler:

EDI is the rogue AI you tried to kill on Luna. Major shocker right there.

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Agreed the game would basically suck if you hadn't played the prequels. Stated this to a friend who asked if I thought he would like diving straight into 3.

And the EDI reveal seemed contrived and, uh, kind of like a majorly overlooked plot hole given that Shepard was given a mission to destroy that AI in ME1.

I mean maybe you can choose to ignore that optional mission, but I certainly wiped that AI from existence.

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Cambiata · March 2012

Tali question

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Operative21 · March 2012

Oddly enough one of the most memorable moments of the game for me was

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If nothing else, I'm impressed that the game can get that kind of emotional response out of me.

Orca · March 2012

Cambiata wrote: »

Tali question

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So 'Tali's face' gets revealed somewhere? Does that only happen if you romanced her?

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Orca · March 2012

Operative21 wrote: »

Oddly enough one of the most memorable moments of the game for me was

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the brief bit on the Citadel where you and Garrus take a car up to the top of the Presidium and have a skeet shoot to see who's the better shot. It was such a simple thing, there was no serious action, or death-defying feats. Just two best friends hanging out, enjoying their last peaceful moments. Later on after I made it through to the citadel at the end, and Garrus was (presumably) dead behind me after being vaporized by Reaper fire, I found myself thinking back to that moment on the Presidium and I got hit by a genuine sense of grief and loss.

If nothing else, I'm impressed that the game can get that kind of emotional response out of me.

There were many, many moments in the game like that for me, which is why I found it such an emotional rollercoaster.

kedinik · March 2012

Operative21 wrote: »

If nothing else, I'm impressed that the game can get that kind of emotional response out of me.

Yeah,

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Evil Monkey · March 2012

just beat the game liked the ending i got. now have to do replay 1 and 2 so i have new import saves all of mine are on my other hd and i need to rad the whole thread so i can see all the spoilers i missed the last few days.

Cambiata · March 2012

Orca wrote: »

Operative21 wrote: »

Oddly enough one of the most memorable moments of the game for me was

Spoiler:

the brief bit on the Citadel where you and Garrus take a car up to the top of the Presidium and have a skeet shoot to see who's the better shot. It was such a simple thing, there was no serious action, or death-defying feats. Just two best friends hanging out, enjoying their last peaceful moments. Later on after I made it through to the citadel at the end, and Garrus was (presumably) dead behind me after being vaporized by Reaper fire, I found myself thinking back to that moment on the Presidium and I got hit by a genuine sense of grief and loss.

If nothing else, I'm impressed that the game can get that kind of emotional response out of me.

There were many, many moments in the game like that for me, which is why I found it such an emotional rollercoaster.

Heck yeah.

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Technicus Rex · March 2012

Angered at pickng up Drell Adept 3 times in a row I named him Kony.

Orca · March 2012

Cambiata wrote: »

Orca wrote: »

Operative21 wrote: »

Oddly enough one of the most memorable moments of the game for me was

Spoiler:

the brief bit on the Citadel where you and Garrus take a car up to the top of the Presidium and have a skeet shoot to see who's the better shot. It was such a simple thing, there was no serious action, or death-defying feats. Just two best friends hanging out, enjoying their last peaceful moments. Later on after I made it through to the citadel at the end, and Garrus was (presumably) dead behind me after being vaporized by Reaper fire, I found myself thinking back to that moment on the Presidium and I got hit by a genuine sense of grief and loss.

If nothing else, I'm impressed that the game can get that kind of emotional response out of me.

There were many, many moments in the game like that for me, which is why I found it such an emotional rollercoaster.

Heck yeah.

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The rooftop shooting thing was particularly great for me, having romanced him. That was Garrus' idea of a date! Too adorable. I don't know how to make myself romance anyone else now.

Mental note, chicks like to go skeet shooting on skyscrapers

Dalantia · March 2012

Re: Joker and EDI subplot:

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Technicus Rex · March 2012

Dalantia wrote: »

Re: Joker and EDI subplot:

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Joker still isn't getting any; sex would end in many, many broken bones for him, as people like to forget. I felt it was mostly done to make EDI a.. person, something more relatable to the player. Make it a hard decision at the end by giving her a face, making her a squadmate.

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Blackbird SR-71C · March 2012

The wiki says there are five levels of strength for equipment items in multiplayer, distributed at random. Does this only apply to spectre packs? I know recruit packs only contain level 1, and veteran packs only level 2 items.

htm · March 2012

Cambiata wrote: »

Also, Tuchanka

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The decision about the genophage was one of the hardest in the game. I like that Eve keeps bringing up the fact that Shep looks conflicted, and I'm able to stall each time because I hadn't made my decision yet. What tipped it for me was 1) Eve. She's worth saving. And she will keep Wrex from going imperialist. 2) The visions of a greener and more beautiful Tuchanka and finally 3) I just couldn't do that shit to Wrex. The Krogan, or Wrex at least, really did earn the right to be given a second chance. If they fail again, well, they'll have to be destroyed utterly at that point. But they at least deserve to have a chance. So I told Mordin to administer the cure and godspeed. Too bad he dies anyway.

More Tuchanka:

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frandelgearslip · March 2012

Well I just beat the game, so I guess I will take my turn to bitch about the ending on the internet since it seems to be the thing to do.

(also Planescape Torment spoilers)

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Cambiata · March 2012

htm wrote: »

Cambiata wrote: »

Also, Tuchanka

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The decision about the genophage was one of the hardest in the game. I like that Eve keeps bringing up the fact that Shep looks conflicted, and I'm able to stall each time because I hadn't made my decision yet. What tipped it for me was 1) Eve. She's worth saving. And she will keep Wrex from going imperialist. 2) The visions of a greener and more beautiful Tuchanka and finally 3) I just couldn't do that shit to Wrex. The Krogan, or Wrex at least, really did earn the right to be given a second chance. If they fail again, well, they'll have to be destroyed utterly at that point. But they at least deserve to have a chance. So I told Mordin to administer the cure and godspeed. Too bad he dies anyway.

More Tuchanka:

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I didn't find it a hard decision at all.

At the time Shepard was making the decision about the genophage, the circumstances for the Krogan (after a hypothetical victory over the Reapers) would be vastly different than they were at the time of the Krogan Rebellions. Even assuming bad faith on the part of Wrex/Eve (or that those two didn't survive the war), the Krogan would not be in a position to cause much trouble. They'd have no ships (since they haven't been permitted their own ships since end of the Krogan Rebellions), and the galaxy would be a very different place. At the time of the Krogan Rebellions, the Krogan were fully militarized, the other races were weary from the Rachni Wars, and there were no humans.

So post-Reapers, if the Council Races and Krogan couldn't arrive at some arrangement regarding Krogan population control and measured expansion, then they could be easily confined to Tuchanka and kept out of space (since they'd lack ships).

Regardless, Shepard would have good reason to believe that, short-term, the Krogan would be a huge asset to the Reaper War, and that post-Reapers, medium to long term, there would be plenty of reason to believe that they could be easily prevented from overrunning the galaxy.

Tuchanka counterpoits

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Cambiata · March 2012

Tali & Garrus questions

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htm · March 2012

Technicus Rex wrote: »

Dalantia wrote: »

Re: Joker and EDI subplot:

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Joker still isn't getting any; sex would end in many, many broken bones for him, as people like to forget. I felt it was mostly done to make EDI a.. person, something more relatable to the player. Make it a hard decision at the end by giving her a face, making her a squadmate.

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Dude it's the future. I'm pretty sure it wouldn't be difficult to install the latest version fleshlight into her nether regions.

Joker/EDI spoilers:

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Extreaminatus · March 2012

Cambiata wrote: »

Tali & Garrus questions

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So DudeShep gets a picture of Tali on his desk if he romanced her... why doesn't FemShep get a picture of Garrus? Is it something about you have to romance that person only and no one else? Because if so, fuck it, I'll do a new run from the beginning and no Kaidan this time.

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Sagroth · March 2012

More spoilers regarding central contention:

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RT800 · March 2012

Shepard has superhuman strength?

htm · March 2012

Cambiata wrote: »

htm wrote: »

Cambiata wrote: »

Also, Tuchanka

Spoiler:

The decision about the genophage was one of the hardest in the game. I like that Eve keeps bringing up the fact that Shep looks conflicted, and I'm able to stall each time because I hadn't made my decision yet. What tipped it for me was 1) Eve. She's worth saving. And she will keep Wrex from going imperialist. 2) The visions of a greener and more beautiful Tuchanka and finally 3) I just couldn't do that shit to Wrex. The Krogan, or Wrex at least, really did earn the right to be given a second chance. If they fail again, well, they'll have to be destroyed utterly at that point. But they at least deserve to have a chance. So I told Mordin to administer the cure and godspeed. Too bad he dies anyway.

More Tuchanka:

Spoiler:

I didn't find it a hard decision at all.

At the time Shepard was making the decision about the genophage, the circumstances for the Krogan (after a hypothetical victory over the Reapers) would be vastly different than they were at the time of the Krogan Rebellions. Even assuming bad faith on the part of Wrex/Eve (or that those two didn't survive the war), the Krogan would not be in a position to cause much trouble. They'd have no ships (since they haven't been permitted their own ships since end of the Krogan Rebellions), and the galaxy would be a very different place. At the time of the Krogan Rebellions, the Krogan were fully militarized, the other races were weary from the Rachni Wars, and there were no humans.

So post-Reapers, if the Council Races and Krogan couldn't arrive at some arrangement regarding Krogan population control and measured expansion, then they could be easily confined to Tuchanka and kept out of space (since they'd lack ships).

Regardless, Shepard would have good reason to believe that, short-term, the Krogan would be a huge asset to the Reaper War, and that post-Reapers, medium to long term, there would be plenty of reason to believe that they could be easily prevented from overrunning the galaxy.

Tuchanka counterpoits

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1) Krogan reproduce quickly 2) Wrex is already talking about making an empire. And if he has enough troops to be an asset in the war, how do I know he doesn't have enough to make an empire? 3) Wrex and Eve have to die eventually, and when they do, what becomes of the Krogan? Maybe that's a distant future worry, but it's still of concern.

Tuchanka counter-counterpoints:

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Orca · March 2012

htm wrote: »

Technicus Rex wrote: »

Dalantia wrote: »

Re: Joker and EDI subplot:

Spoiler:

Joker still isn't getting any; sex would end in many, many broken bones for him, as people like to forget. I felt it was mostly done to make EDI a.. person, something more relatable to the player. Make it a hard decision at the end by giving her a face, making her a squadmate.

Spoiler:

Dude it's the future. I'm pretty sure it wouldn't be difficult to install the latest version fleshlight into her nether regions.

Joker/EDI spoilers:

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That and EDI has motor control that's precise enough to avoid breaking any of Joker's real bones.

She also implies that the texture of her exterior is highly variable (she configure her hair helmet to be indistinguishable from real hair, for example). Remember that her body was configured to pass for human in a high-security Alliance facility. Presumably, she can make herself soft and anatomically correct in all the right places.

Shepard's lovers would be in far more danger. Shepard is a cyborg with superhuman strength controlled by a mostly human nervous system. If she lost control during the height of passion, she could very easily hurt her partner very badly.

Woman of Steel, man of kleenex?

Orca · March 2012

RT800 wrote: »

Shepard has superhuman strength?

She can punch out a yahg.

Shen · March 2012

"Shepard, everyone knows you can't dance!"

hahahahaha

Deaderinred · March 2012

oh oh! grissom

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Sagroth · March 2012

Orca wrote: »

htm wrote: »

Technicus Rex wrote: »

Dalantia wrote: »

Re: Joker and EDI subplot:

Spoiler:

Joker still isn't getting any; sex would end in many, many broken bones for him, as people like to forget. I felt it was mostly done to make EDI a.. person, something more relatable to the player. Make it a hard decision at the end by giving her a face, making her a squadmate.

Spoiler:

Dude it's the future. I'm pretty sure it wouldn't be difficult to install the latest version fleshlight into her nether regions.

Joker/EDI spoilers:

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That and EDI has motor control that's precise enough to avoid breaking any of Joker's real bones.

She also implies that the texture of her exterior is highly variable (she configure her hair helmet to be indistinguishable from real hair, for example). Remember that her body was configured to pass for human in a high-security Alliance facility. Presumably, she can make herself soft and anatomically correct in all the right places.

Shepard's lovers would be in far more danger. Shepard is a cyborg with superhuman strength controlled by a mostly human nervous system. If she lost control during the height of passion, she could very easily hurt her partner very badly.

Woman of Steel, man of kleenex?

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Here is some cab fare. Going to sleep mode.

Cambiata · March 2012

Orca wrote: »

RT800 wrote: »

Shepard has superhuman strength?

She can punch out a yahg.

And she can wield guns that would break the arms of a normal human.

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