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giantbomb.com/news/amazon-says-mass-effect-3-refunds-arent-unique/4040/
According to the article above Amazon will do it for any product you are dissatisfied with.
So really there's no big news here other than "people continue to be pissed about ME3's ending, and some are taking advantage of Amazon's generous return policy to get their money back."
More or less.
And honestly I still think it's a pretty isolated thing, but it's being blown up.
I still maintain that returning a game you fully played for a full refund is a shitty thing to do, but I don't think many people are doing it. And its doubly frustrating for people like me who support wanting a better ending, or at least closure to the whole fiasco, but want to do it via civilized communication and discussion and not dumb shit like ripping off the company you supposedly care about or being a douche and wasting the feds time with stupid complaints.
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http://forums.penny-arcade.com/discussion/comment/22539006#Comment_22539006
I wonder if customer service people are trained for retarded fanboys.
They don't really give a rat's ass why so long as it's within the first ninety days of purchase.
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Oh god my brain.
At this point the game could end with the Reapers defeated by the power of love generated by Shepard's latest romance and I'd keep my yap shut, since the people completely flipping out about it aren't exactly making a great case for themselves.
This looks like it is for Origin though it could be for their online store that ships the ME3 boxed version. It doesn't appear to ask for any shipment or anything.
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Shit, I'm liking it more and more.
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And by false advertising, we're all hip to the fact that it means 'did something I didn't like much'. I promise you this much: if the people dealing with this nonsense have any humanity, they're collating all these responses so they can laugh at the complainants expense. Not to their face/ears/chat windows, of course. But they're doing it nonetheless.
It was simply the best part about working EA Customer Support. Sharing stories of the dumbest people on the planet. Good times.
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The whole thing makes me wonder if video game companies do any focus tests on this kind of shit later in development. A lot of bad endings are focus grouped out nowadays if I recall correctly.
Yep. Most famously Han Solo dying in Return of the Jedi. And focus tests result in a lot of last-minute reshoots. Then again I've never heard of a movie changing its ending post-release simply because people bitched.
Still does't justify any of the goosery going on.
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So, the most logical development conclusion seems to have been missed by practically everybody? Cool.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brazil_(film)#Releases For some reason, the love conquers all version was what was shown on syndicated TV, probably because it was shorter.
They should do more of that with video games. Prince of Persia 2008 would end with everybody because focus groups would have gotten mad at that.
Pretty much how I feel.
I don't know what it is about Bioware games but they attract the most obsessive fan base.
That, and the ending sequence that follows is really short and the latter of half of it doesn't make any sense whatsoever.
The producer defended the ending with that they wanted a Lost like ending that people would debate and that would be memorable. I've never seen the ending of Lost, but I presume it doesn't end with half the characters eating ice cream in Canada ROLL CREDITS
It's not a big deal when deus ex (any of the
threetwo games) do it, but Mass Effect people go all crazy batshit.Do you count Futurama? Jurassic Bark, and then later with Bender's big score?
They also changed I am Legend's ending due to test groups, which kinda ruins the entire movie.
I have I Am Legend on BlueRay, and it comes with both endings. The theatrical and the original.
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...that's it? Considering the massive amount of work it takes to make one ending, much less several with multiple options, this might be a case of inflated expectations. Hell, I'm just impressed some of the decisions of the first Mass Effect are affecting my war preparations.
...but I guess I'll find out for myself when I finally get there.
Now that I think about it, the Sherlock Holmes story where he dies was retconned into being alive.
Edit: I think the Jurassic Bark/Bender's Big Score thing was artistic license and/or tweaking the fans (in a future episode, they do an entire joke around "oh no, I found another of Fry's dogs!) rather than bowing to fan pressure. The ending to Jurassic Bark was awesome. It reduced me into a horrible gelatinous blob of sorrow.
Ooooh, good catch. Sir Arthur Conan Doyle wanted him to stay dead, but he actually went back and retconned it.
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Oh really? I didn't know that. I just know what the real ending is supposed to be, because I saw the omega man. There were lots of hints as to what the real ending was supposed to be, too, which just end up leading to no where with the theatrical ending. Is the original ending filmed well?
I've seen that episode a grand total of two times. Once on TV, once when I bought the DVDs.
If it comes on TV I will change the channel, and I always skip it when I'm watching the DVDs. Entirely too much crying for me to handle...
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Yeah, it's pretty good quality. It's on the 2 disk DVD set as well.
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The cut with the original ending includes a few more scenes that foreshadow it, and the ending itself was very well done.
I dunno, the ending changed in BBS which made it a lot less depressing. And worse, IMO. The original ending is one of my favorite moments in television. I too get reduced to a sobbing mess every time I see that episode, and it's precisely why I think it's so great. I kinda disregard BBS for that very reason.
That's the closest I can get to an ending changing, though, and like you said, it might not have even been to fan pressure. I guess you could count the changes they made to Final Fantasy VII through the sequels and prequels, though. Although the big change that a lot of fans want, that would ruin the story IMO, is Aeris being brought back, which hasn't happened yet.
No.
And you're a fool and a communist if you think so.
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The best things to come out of it were Cloud and Tifa's outfit updates.
The only one is the Fallout 3 ending in the video game section. Is it because nobody wants to redo entire sections of the game nowadays? Most videogames don't have anything that could be considered postproduction they could use to change shit so it would explain the lack of them. Or it could be due to a lack of information on the development process itself due to a lack of developer commentaries with games.