Least favourite episode so far. I was hoping for everyone to attempt to become manager ala Dwight trying to take Darryls office. Best bit of the episode was tony. I dunno why I found that so funny. "it happens sometimes".
Yeah, I was really surprised Jim didn't go for it. Seemed like Robert was trying to push him into it too.
I can't imagine Nellie becoming a permanent cast member. I just find her annoying in a way none of the other cast members are. I find even Gabe to be more tolerable.
I'm pretty sure you're supposed to hate Nellie. I don't see her becoming a permanent character either. She's supposed to be annoying to the point where anytime anyone puts her down, defies her or defeats her, you'll be a bit more invested in the character.
She's just like those annoying teenagers from that one episode of Community. You're supposed to hate them but they've done such a good job at making the characters terrible that it escapes the confines of the story and starts to affect the show as a whole.
She's just like those annoying teenagers from that one episode of Community. You're supposed to hate them but they've done such a good job at making the characters terrible that it escapes the confines of the story and starts to affect the show as a whole.
I didn't like that Community episode. For exactly that reason.
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I'm not getting all the Nellie hate. She's not awesome, but she's better than Todd Packer, at least.
Does anyone know if the last few episodes of the prior season and all of this season were written or produced by different people than the earlier episodes? It doesn't even seem like the same show anymore. Hell, there were many episodes this season that didn't even seem to have B plots at all, vs old episodes which even had C plots many times. The show has such a strong ensemble cast, but they just don't use it like they used to.
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A lot of the scenes with the non-main or even B-level characters get cut. Whenever I look at The Office's facebook stream they always have a few deleted scenes from the last episode featuring at least one of them.
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I want to say it comes back April 19, for the remaining 5 episodes.
Things to think about:
1) The 4 main cast members (except Rainn Wilson) are still negotiating for beyond this season. No Robert California is one thing. But no Jim/Pam, Andy, and/or Ryan? That's something else.
2) Mindy Kaling has a pilot at Fox. If it gets picked up, goodbye Kelly. More importantly, she's gone from the writing staff.
3) Paul Lieberstein (Toby) is the current showrunner. He's planning on leaving that position to do the same for "The Farm"...yes, that's what they want to call the Dwight spin-off. So yeah, he's been in charge this year, but he was also in charge last year, I believe, and most people liked that season. I wonder what was different last year...
As it stands, with The Farm being positioned for mid-season, I wonder if we'll wind up with some hollow shell of The Office for half a season, lurching towards a finish.
Also, NBC's thinking with the Dwight spin-off is pretty transparent, I think. Unfortunately, I really don't think they can do the Cheers-Frasier thing successfully again. Especially with Dwight.
And in regards to Nellie, it seems like there's two completely separate reactions to her. Most people here seem to hate her, and hated her last spring, too. But there must have been some positive response to warrant bringing her back.
Yeah, heard about the Dwight spinoff. He seems like a poor choice for main character. I suppose it depends on what supporting cast they give him, but I'm not seeing Dwight and Mose becoming the new Frasier and Niles.
I am curious how they will end it. There's not a lot of major character events left. And if they don't have any of the major players left by the end, it's going out with a whimper. Look forward to season 14 when Kevin is the branch manager.
Ed Helms seems like the only main cast member who could plausibly have a career outside of The Office, so I'd at least expect the other three to renew.
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Mose won't be in it, he's busy running Parks and Rec.
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Its really a shame the show is going out like this. I wonder if they will even show the documentary, or if they just gave up on the idea that there is a reason they are being filmed all the time.
Its really a shame the show is going out like this. I wonder if they will even show the documentary, or if they just gave up on the idea that there is a reason they are being filmed all the time.
I'd like to think Dunder-Mifflin accidently gave the documentary crew a gigantic budget on accident, and the crew has just kept filming all these years to justify continuing to get paid, and it's just managed to slip through the cracks year after year.
Yeah, heard about the Dwight spinoff. He seems like a poor choice for main character. I suppose it depends on what supporting cast they give him, but I'm not seeing Dwight and Mose becoming the new Frasier and Niles.
I am curious how they will end it. There's not a lot of major character events left. And if they don't have any of the major players left by the end, it's going out with a whimper. Look forward to season 14 when Kevin is the branch manager.
I think Frasier was the lucky duck ... because everything else just seems to end up like Joey.
Feel free to show me other good spin-offs though.
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Yeah, heard about the Dwight spinoff. He seems like a poor choice for main character. I suppose it depends on what supporting cast they give him, but I'm not seeing Dwight and Mose becoming the new Frasier and Niles.
It could work. The episode where they had the party / reception thing at the farm was pretty great, and Dwight-centric.
Though, rather than Mose being the other lead, I'd want Jim / Pam to quit the office and work for Dwight.
An entire series based on Jim / Dwight would be...pretty much everything I watch The Office for now.
In regards to the send-off, I'd like them to show the actual fallout of the documentary's release. I mean, it's pretty much going to ruin the company and the lives of everyone in the cast, and that would be interesting to see.
It's also the kind of storyline that you can only show at the end of the show's run.
In regards to the send-off, I'd like them to show the actual fallout of the documentary's release. I mean, it's pretty much going to ruin the company and the lives of everyone in the cast, and that would be interesting to see.
It's also the kind of storyline that you can only show at the end of the show's run.
I wonder how many newer fans don't even know that there is a documentary being made.
In regards to the send-off, I'd like them to show the actual fallout of the documentary's release. I mean, it's pretty much going to ruin the company and the lives of everyone in the cast, and that would be interesting to see.
It's also the kind of storyline that you can only show at the end of the show's run.
I wonder how many newer fans don't even know that there is a documentary being made.
Modern Family doesn't even bother trying to justify its documentary format.
Audiences just accept it without asking who's filming or why.
There are a ton of spinoffs that were/are successful. Good is more subjective, but off the top of my head All in the Family=The Jeffersons, Golden Girls=Empty Nest, Grey's Anatomy=Private Practice, Family Guy=The Cleveland Show and even Family Matters was technically a spinoff.
And that's ignoring back door pilot spinoffs (ie characters introduced specifically to make a spinoff).
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There are a ton of spinoffs that were/are successful. Good is more subjective, but off the top of my head All in the Family=The Jeffersons, Golden Girls=Empty Nest, Grey's Anatomy=Private Practice, Family Guy=The Cleveland Show and even Family Matters was technically a spinoff.
And that's ignoring back door pilot spinoffs (ie characters introduced specifically to make a spinoff).
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Mork & Mindy
Out of the Blue,
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There are a ton of spinoffs that were/are successful. Good is more subjective, but off the top of my head All in the Family=The Jeffersons, Golden Girls=Empty Nest, Grey's Anatomy=Private Practice, Family Guy=The Cleveland Show and even Family Matters was technically a spinoff.
And that's ignoring back door pilot spinoffs (ie characters introduced specifically to make a spinoff).
For a show to work, your main character has to be fairly normal. Think Jim and originally Ryan.
Dwight is a fucking weirdo, so he's either going to have to be nerfed (like Joey was in Joey) or they're going to have to come up with all sorts of Cooky Side Characters! to add into the mix to make Dwight seem normal.
I would like The Farm to be good. I love The Office and want it to be successful, but Dwight makes zero sense to base a show on.
There are a ton of spinoffs that were/are successful. Good is more subjective, but off the top of my head All in the Family=The Jeffersons, Golden Girls=Empty Nest, Grey's Anatomy=Private Practice, Family Guy=The Cleveland Show and even Family Matters was technically a spinoff.
And that's ignoring back door pilot spinoffs (ie characters introduced specifically to make a spinoff).
of what? Die Hard?
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There are a ton of spinoffs that were/are successful. Good is more subjective, but off the top of my head All in the Family=The Jeffersons, Golden Girls=Empty Nest, Grey's Anatomy=Private Practice, Family Guy=The Cleveland Show and even Family Matters was technically a spinoff.
And that's ignoring back door pilot spinoffs (ie characters introduced specifically to make a spinoff).
There are a ton of spinoffs that were/are successful. Good is more subjective, but off the top of my head All in the Family=The Jeffersons, Golden Girls=Empty Nest, Grey's Anatomy=Private Practice, Family Guy=The Cleveland Show and even Family Matters was technically a spinoff.
And that's ignoring back door pilot spinoffs (ie characters introduced specifically to make a spinoff).
of what? Die Hard?
Perfect Strangers .
(I was really looking forward to adding Family Matters to Invisible's list for some sort of geek value, but go figure he just left it for last to get my hopes up.)
There are a ton of spinoffs that were/are successful. Good is more subjective, but off the top of my head All in the Family=The Jeffersons, Golden Girls=Empty Nest, Grey's Anatomy=Private Practice, Family Guy=The Cleveland Show and even Family Matters was technically a spinoff.
And that's ignoring back door pilot spinoffs (ie characters introduced specifically to make a spinoff).
For a show to work, your main character has to be fairly normal. Think Jim and originally Ryan.
Dwight is a fucking weirdo, so he's either going to have to be nerfed (like Joey was in Joey) or they're going to have to come up with all sorts of Cooky Side Characters! to add into the mix to make Dwight seem normal.
I would like The Farm to be good. I love The Office and want it to be successful, but Dwight makes zero sense to base a show on.
Oh, I completely agree with you. I think Dwight's too weird of a character to carry a show, especially after 8 seasons of it. It's like if they spun off Urkel.
Just spinoffs can be really successful. They don't all end up like Joey or Checking In, but I think it's likely to happen with "The Farm."
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I'm not sure who could hold a spin off from The Office. I don't think any of them.
Ideally Jim and Pam would move to whatever suburb Monica and Chandler moved to. I'd watch that show. Marshall and Lily can move there too in a couple years, it'd be great.
There are a ton of spinoffs that were/are successful. Good is more subjective, but off the top of my head All in the Family=The Jeffersons, Golden Girls=Empty Nest, Grey's Anatomy=Private Practice, Family Guy=The Cleveland Show and even Family Matters was technically a spinoff.
And that's ignoring back door pilot spinoffs (ie characters introduced specifically to make a spinoff).
For a show to work, your main character has to be fairly normal. Think Jim and originally Ryan.
Dwight is a fucking weirdo, so he's either going to have to be nerfed (like Joey was in Joey) or they're going to have to come up with all sorts of Cooky Side Characters! to add into the mix to make Dwight seem normal.
I would like The Farm to be good. I love The Office and want it to be successful, but Dwight makes zero sense to base a show on.
Oh, I completely agree with you. I think Dwight's too weird of a character to carry a show, especially after 8 seasons of it. It's like if they spun off Urkel.
Eh, Family Matters pretty much became the Urkel show after a few seasons anyway.
Kelly could've handled a spinoff, just because that character has a normalcy that Dwight lacks but still has a really distinct personality. Kaling's also attractive, and it'd be pretty easy to explain Kelly getting a job somewhere else as well.
Unfortunately, I can't see Kaling's actual pilot working out. A comedy about OB/GYNs obviously isn't going to attract a male audience, and I feel like the novelty of the setting will wear off pretty quickly and then start to serve as a burdensome limitation on the stories. I'm sure that actual OB/GYNs think their lives are hilarious, but in reality I doubt that there's enough variety to what they do (especially once you excise stuff too explicit for tv) to sustain multiple seasons of episodes.
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Kelly might've worked, yeah.
See, that's why Frasier worked, he wasn't too developed but he was well liked. A Woody show would've been awful, which is basically what The Farm is going to be.
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I can't imagine Nellie becoming a permanent cast member. I just find her annoying in a way none of the other cast members are. I find even Gabe to be more tolerable.
I didn't like that Community episode. For exactly that reason.
They need time to write the finale / figure out what they're doing for next season / figure out if there will be a next season.
Show is hosed right now.
Does anyone know if the last few episodes of the prior season and all of this season were written or produced by different people than the earlier episodes? It doesn't even seem like the same show anymore. Hell, there were many episodes this season that didn't even seem to have B plots at all, vs old episodes which even had C plots many times. The show has such a strong ensemble cast, but they just don't use it like they used to.
You're supposed to dislike her
There is a massive difference between not liking a character, and wanting to stop watching a show if she continues being on it.
Things to think about:
1) The 4 main cast members (except Rainn Wilson) are still negotiating for beyond this season. No Robert California is one thing. But no Jim/Pam, Andy, and/or Ryan? That's something else.
2) Mindy Kaling has a pilot at Fox. If it gets picked up, goodbye Kelly. More importantly, she's gone from the writing staff.
3) Paul Lieberstein (Toby) is the current showrunner. He's planning on leaving that position to do the same for "The Farm"...yes, that's what they want to call the Dwight spin-off. So yeah, he's been in charge this year, but he was also in charge last year, I believe, and most people liked that season. I wonder what was different last year...
As it stands, with The Farm being positioned for mid-season, I wonder if we'll wind up with some hollow shell of The Office for half a season, lurching towards a finish.
Also, NBC's thinking with the Dwight spin-off is pretty transparent, I think. Unfortunately, I really don't think they can do the Cheers-Frasier thing successfully again. Especially with Dwight.
And in regards to Nellie, it seems like there's two completely separate reactions to her. Most people here seem to hate her, and hated her last spring, too. But there must have been some positive response to warrant bringing her back.
I am curious how they will end it. There's not a lot of major character events left. And if they don't have any of the major players left by the end, it's going out with a whimper. Look forward to season 14 when Kevin is the branch manager.
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I'd like to think Dunder-Mifflin accidently gave the documentary crew a gigantic budget on accident, and the crew has just kept filming all these years to justify continuing to get paid, and it's just managed to slip through the cracks year after year.
I think Frasier was the lucky duck ... because everything else just seems to end up like Joey.
Feel free to show me other good spin-offs though.
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It could work. The episode where they had the party / reception thing at the farm was pretty great, and Dwight-centric.
Though, rather than Mose being the other lead, I'd want Jim / Pam to quit the office and work for Dwight.
An entire series based on Jim / Dwight would be...pretty much everything I watch The Office for now.
It's also the kind of storyline that you can only show at the end of the show's run.
https://twitter.com/Hooraydiation
I wonder how many newer fans don't even know that there is a documentary being made.
Dude I've been watching since the beginning and I barely remember.
http://www.theonion.com/articles/the-office-ends-as-documentary-crew-gets-all-the-f,6988/
Modern Family doesn't even bother trying to justify its documentary format.
Audiences just accept it without asking who's filming or why.
https://twitter.com/Hooraydiation
And that's ignoring back door pilot spinoffs (ie characters introduced specifically to make a spinoff).
Love, American Style=Happy days=Laverne & Shirley
Blansky's Beauties
Mork & Mindy
Out of the Blue,
Joanie Loves Chachi
For a show to work, your main character has to be fairly normal. Think Jim and originally Ryan.
Dwight is a fucking weirdo, so he's either going to have to be nerfed (like Joey was in Joey) or they're going to have to come up with all sorts of Cooky Side Characters! to add into the mix to make Dwight seem normal.
I would like The Farm to be good. I love The Office and want it to be successful, but Dwight makes zero sense to base a show on.
of what? Die Hard?
Perfect Strangers, if I recall correctly.
Perfect Strangers
(I was really looking forward to adding Family Matters to Invisible's list for some sort of geek value, but go figure he just left it for last to get my hopes up.)
Oh, I completely agree with you. I think Dwight's too weird of a character to carry a show, especially after 8 seasons of it. It's like if they spun off Urkel.
Just spinoffs can be really successful. They don't all end up like Joey or Checking In, but I think it's likely to happen with "The Farm."
Ideally Jim and Pam would move to whatever suburb Monica and Chandler moved to. I'd watch that show. Marshall and Lily can move there too in a couple years, it'd be great.
Eh, Family Matters pretty much became the Urkel show after a few seasons anyway.
Unfortunately, I can't see Kaling's actual pilot working out. A comedy about OB/GYNs obviously isn't going to attract a male audience, and I feel like the novelty of the setting will wear off pretty quickly and then start to serve as a burdensome limitation on the stories. I'm sure that actual OB/GYNs think their lives are hilarious, but in reality I doubt that there's enough variety to what they do (especially once you excise stuff too explicit for tv) to sustain multiple seasons of episodes.
https://twitter.com/Hooraydiation
See, that's why Frasier worked, he wasn't too developed but he was well liked. A Woody show would've been awful, which is basically what The Farm is going to be.