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[Phalla] Game Over! Way to go killer p.50 The Unfortunate Voyage of the Harbinger

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  • towndrunk34towndrunk34 Registered User regular
    Infidel wrote: »
    Nullzone is trying too hard. I should put some laxatives in his food. Kime, what do you suggest?
    On a non-RP note, Infidel because Bedlam is sounding better.

    How exactly does Bedlam lead you to vote for me? I think he may be interested in that as well. Are you just wanting to incite a villager vs villager wagon or what?

    I suppose I should have mentioned it was a placeholder. Early vote, still plenty of time in the day. I'll switch it whenever.

    >You don't want to drink that water anyway. Somebody tried to jizz in it last page.

  • InfidelInfidel Heretic Registered User regular
    I recently wrote an entire chapter titled Placeholders for a technical document for a translation tool I coded at work. Weeeee!

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  • romanqwertyromanqwerty Registered User regular
    @Phyphor, can you code your box to mine past games for the use of the word placeholder?

    I wanna see if people who do that are actually more likely to be mafia.

  • 38thDoe38thDoe lets never be stupid again wait lets always be stupid foreverRegistered User regular
    @Phyphor, can you code your box to mine past games for the use of the word placeholder?

    I wanna see if people who do that are actually more likely to be mafia.

    I coded the forums to do it for you.

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  • AkimboLegsAkimboLegs Registered User regular
    Looks like the Anialos wagon is in full effect so im going to jump on dumpshock with Figgy for now. Dude is way too defensive over a bit of speculation and a single vote, I'm also curious about towndrunk34 and his random Infidel vote

    $10 says this is a mafia voting for another mafia who is not under any immediate risk of dying, but wants to say "hey I voted for a mafia!" when Dumpshock inevitably dies because he is way too suspicious.

  • LanglyLangly Registered User regular
    I actually rarely if ever say/use placeholder votes for exactly that reason.

  • PhyphorPhyphor Building Planet Busters Tasting FruitRegistered User regular
    @Phyphor, can you code your box to mine past games for the use of the word placeholder?

    I wanna see if people who do that are actually more likely to be mafia.

    Of the 52 games prior to this one, placeholder was used in 37 of them. 18 of which used it more than twice. I don't store comprehensive role information though so you'd still have to check manually.

    These 5 games had 10-18 uses:
    http://phyphor.padev.net/phalla/phalla_specific.php?phalla=6
    http://phyphor.padev.net/phalla/phalla_specific.php?phalla=29
    http://phyphor.padev.net/phalla/phalla_specific.php?phalla=21
    http://phyphor.padev.net/phalla/phalla_specific.php?phalla=26
    http://phyphor.padev.net/phalla/phalla_specific.php?phalla=35

  • BedlamBedlam Registered User regular
    @figgy You may want to revote. I know it was just to fix the bad url tags but you should NEVER EDIT VOTE POSTS

  • GaslightGaslight Registered User regular
    I don't think calling a vote a "placeholder" is suspicious by itself. Now if you're a quiet type and you make "placeholder" votes and then never come back and change them...

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  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver Registered User, ClubPA regular
    ObiFett wrote: »
    corvidae wrote: »
    Do we have any proof that a guard was successful? After all, the net head bit it last night.

    Day two kills:
    Vote (obvious)
    CLASSIFIED (SK?)
    Plague (obvious)
    Confederate (mafia)
    Prototype Ordinance (<-Assuran?)

    The things that feel off is that the mafia killed one person last night as opposed to the two they killed on night one AND the "prototype ordinance" kill is not the exact same description as the first night when Assuran killed Maximus with "prototype technology".

    So either a guard was successful and blocked a mafia kill or the mafia don't get two kills a night, right? Either way that's good news, imo.

    I will clarify my own shoddy writing: Prototype Ordinance is the same thing as Prototype Technology

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  • Skull ManSkull Man Registered User regular
    the arguments against Anialos are really, really good

    dumpshock is a little suspicious as well, but hey, there's always tomorrow I guess

    the whole "specials, don't declare yourselves, or you can't be guarded!" seems like it could, conceivably, be a very bold, very difficult to disprove ploy by the mafia to keep a network from forming, so I'm keeping an eye on infidel (hardly the only person doing so, I'm sure)

    as it stands though, like I said, Anialos

  • AnialosAnialos RPG MPD patient #1 Registered User regular
    Well, it seems the power of Infidel's personality has overridden common sense. May as well get my vote in...hmm, I think !DumpShock has been rather suspicious.

    Dichotomy wrote: »
    I play a lot of video games but I wouldn't call myself a "gamer" because "gamer" has become a pretty fucking disgusting label

    like "skinhead" or "republican"
  • Skull ManSkull Man Registered User regular
    man he's been making arguments!

    it hasn't just been VOTE FOR ANIALOS BECAUSE I'M SO CHARMING

  • Smoove OperatorSmoove Operator Registered User regular
    Ahh Roman, I'm hurt. Did you think I wouldn't be back later? Also, reading comprehension will show that I was just messing with Nullzone over the old replacement law (Stevers? I really don't remember and would like someone to help me remember the name).

    Its likely nothing, but Roman, trying to stir up suspicion? Attempting to save Anialos? Unlikey, but...noted.

    Also, Roman, you used the "S" word.
    Spoiler:

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  • AnialosAnialos RPG MPD patient #1 Registered User regular
    Skull Man wrote: »
    man he's been making arguments!

    it hasn't just been VOTE FOR ANIALOS BECAUSE I'M SO CHARMING

    Really? Other than doing EXACTLY WHAT YOU ALL ARE DOING BY FOLLOWING HIM, he has no arguments. In fact he hasn't even posted anything today other than self confirmation and my name in bold red text on the matter today. Sure, it may provide some voting record, but that doesn't make his initial reasoning any better!

    Dichotomy wrote: »
    I play a lot of video games but I wouldn't call myself a "gamer" because "gamer" has become a pretty fucking disgusting label

    like "skinhead" or "republican"
  • InfidelInfidel Heretic Registered User regular
    Anialos wrote: »
    Well, it seems the power of Infidel's personality has overridden common sense. May as well get my vote in...hmm, I think !DumpShock has been rather suspicious.

    What exactly is the logic that should be taken as "common sense" then?

    Where is your defense at all?

    Are you incapable of making one, or is your position just simply indefensible?

    Can Infidel keep making questions that people can't answer?

    Should he answer that one himself?

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  • shalmeloshalmelo sees no evil Registered User regular
    Gaslight wrote: »
    I don't think calling a vote a "placeholder" is suspicious by itself. Now if you're a quiet type and you make "placeholder" votes and then never come back and change them...

    Stop spelling out all my tried-and-true winning mafia tactics, damnit!

    :evil:

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  • ObiFettObiFett Use the Force As You WishRegistered User regular
    Anialos because it makes sense.



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  • DumpShockDumpShock Registered User regular
    After re-reading the last few pages it strikes me as odd that Figgy specifically tried to keep the focus on me after posting the SeGaTai bandwagon then putting forth his placeholder = mafia theory in the same post. I'm referring to Here and Here .
    Then AkimboLegs follows that same line of thought.
    I post my reasons Here
    They are not addressed
    Figgy and Akimbo get me posting in my defense
    None of the actual points of my post are addressed other than to try to thoroughly discredit that our voting patterns have not been dissimilar
    Then there is this:
    Figgy wrote: »
    If there is anything else you (or anyone else) wants me to dig up or highlight, let me know. I find it interesting. And I'm not shy at all to put all my posts out there in the open, right here in one post. I think it's utterly hilarious that you got so defensive and turned back on me. Not the fact that you turned on me, but how you did it. With absolutely pants-on-head reasoning. Throw away votes? Where? Stabs in the dark? You know this is Phalla, right?

    Of course, you know who doesn't vote stabs in the dark? Mafia.
    "Look at my posts they are innocent!" "I think your reasoning is bad so therefore invald!!" "I think you over reacted!"

    I didn't address AkimboLegs comment earlier about not discouraging vote analysis. I'm actual not discouraging vote analysis. I'm discouraging vote analysis that is backing a false opinion, or in my own possibly false opinion, backing a specific agenda to kill a villager and fudge said vote records.



  • CythraulCythraul Registered User regular
    I just worked 12 hours and am more than a little drained. I'll go read the 5 pages I've missed, but while I reheat my dinner just wanna ask if anything interesting happened that's worth pointing out?

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  • BedlamBedlam Registered User regular
    Cythraul wrote: »
    I just worked 12 hours and am more than a little drained. I'll go read the 5 pages I've missed, but while I reheat my dinner just wanna ask if anything interesting happened that's worth pointing out?
    Everything happened.

    All the things.

  • CythraulCythraul Registered User regular
    Dammit Bedlam! That's not helpful :P

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  • ObiFettObiFett Use the Force As You WishRegistered User regular
    edited March 2012
    Cythraul wrote: »
    I just worked 12 hours and am more than a little drained. I'll go read the 5 pages I've missed, but while I reheat my dinner just wanna ask if anything interesting happened that's worth pointing out?

    Infidel revealed important info about guards.

    Infidel and Anialos are fighting

    Figgy and Dumpshock are fighting

    We did some research into placeholder votes.

    edit: and then everything happened

    edit 2: all the things

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  • sportzboytjwsportzboytjw squeeeeeezzeeee some more tax breaks outRegistered User regular
    I want Mojo to report to the medbay for a suprise death checkup.

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  • CythraulCythraul Registered User regular
    cool. Will start reading!

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  • AkimboLegsAkimboLegs Registered User regular
    What did you want us to address in that post?

    The reason you are suspicious boils down to: acting (from our point of view) very similarly to how you did last game - when you won and survived as mafia. It is kind of icing on the cake that you went from almost inactive to posting every page as soon as you came under fire. Not that I'd necessarily expect any less from most people, but it does mean that your early inactivity is more suspect. Of course, everything in phalla is suspect, so :)

    Mafia are often guilty of throwaway votes, something you are guilty of. I'm still not sure if you are trying to tip that same behaviour back on Figgy, but from where I stand, his votes have had more backing to them than "placeholders". Maybe not a lot more? I'd have to check more carefully, but either way, it isn't specifically WHO you voted for that matters (early phalla voting is hard to analyze until mafia turn up), but HOW you did it.

    Your last sentence is a little confusing - is it saying that we shouldn't analyze voting records that are targeting people you think are villagers (ie: Anialos)?

  • SpoitSpoit *twitch twitch* Registered User regular
    @Phyphor, can you code your box to mine past games for the use of the word placeholder?

    I wanna see if people who do that are actually more likely to be mafia.
    Would it be possible for you to run it again on some of the older games for historical data? A few of them (my mini being an example) are only up to when you died, still

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  • SpoitSpoit *twitch twitch* Registered User regular
    ObiFett wrote: »
    Spoit wrote: »
    ObiFett wrote: »
    Spoit wrote: »
    vertroue wrote: »
    At least we don't have crew members stealing all the nails and screws this time around,

    Screw RPosts. It's too much work to hammer them out

    Hey man. I am going to do at least one RP post a day. This phalla has much too cool narratives and it started out with some fun RP to let it go now.
    Don't be such a straightedge. We've saw enough RPing in this thread already.

    If one RP post a day makes me a straightedge, then so be it. ;-)

    Let me have my fun, its the only thing I get to do in this game besides trying to follow all the insanity that is happening.
    Maybe you should install some new hardware to understand the puns :( or was that stolen too :(

    Did I vote yet? Analios

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  • PhyphorPhyphor Building Planet Busters Tasting FruitRegistered User regular
    Spoit wrote: »
    @Phyphor, can you code your box to mine past games for the use of the word placeholder?

    I wanna see if people who do that are actually more likely to be mafia.
    Would it be possible for you to run it again on some of the older games for historical data? A few of them (my mini being an example) are only up to when you died, still

    I could index every game ever played, except it would hammer the server. Maybe I'll do that on a delay or whatever

  • KetBraKetBra hiRegistered User regular
    retaba

    Sorry busy

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  • RetabaRetaba A Cultist Registered User regular
    Man, no one ever votes for me for being suspicious or anything! It is always, teehee and oh I'm busy so uhh Retaba! :|

    One day, I will be the death of you all.

  • corvidaecorvidae Registered User regular
    sounds like a sk reveal!!!


    just kidding.

  • FiggyFiggy Registered User regular
    Bedlam wrote: »
    @figgy You may want to revote. I know it was just to fix the bad url tags but you should NEVER EDIT VOTE POSTS

    Oops! Wasn't thinking it mattered if the vote itself stays the same, but I can see why it might be an issue.

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  • SpoitSpoit *twitch twitch* Registered User regular
    KetBra wrote: »
    retaba

    Sorry busy

    Busy enough to drop a throwaway vote without offering any justification?

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  • EgosEgos God Hand Registered User regular
    Spoit wrote: »
    KetBra wrote: »
    retaba

    Sorry busy

    Busy enough to drop a throwaway vote without offering any justification?

    Just stalk his profile all creepy like and see if he is active between now and vote close. See if he is really busy.
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  • DumpShockDumpShock Registered User regular
    AkimboLegs wrote: »
    Your last sentence is a little confusing - is it saying that we shouldn't analyze voting records that are targeting people you think are villagers (ie: Anialos)?

    Sorry, that was confusing so I'll clarify by PM if you like. However..... don't infer what I said onto the Anialos thing. I'm still partial convinced Infidel is trying to see what shakes loose and will change his vote before close.

  • SpoitSpoit *twitch twitch* Registered User regular
    Egos wrote: »
    Spoit wrote: »
    KetBra wrote: »
    retaba

    Sorry busy

    Busy enough to drop a throwaway vote without offering any justification?

    Just stalk his profile all creepy like and see if he is active between now and vote close. See if he is really busy.
    Spoiler:

    Too be fair, it looks like retaba did the same thing too

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  • CythraulCythraul Registered User regular
    Dumpshock, partially due to suspicion and partially so we have a clear 2nd place. Who knows if we'll need one.

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  • RetabaRetaba A Cultist Registered User regular
    Wait, what did I do?

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