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[Phalla] Game Over! Way to go killer p.50 The Unfortunate Voyage of the Harbinger
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I suppose I should have mentioned it was a placeholder. Early vote, still plenty of time in the day. I'll switch it whenever.
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I wanna see if people who do that are actually more likely to be mafia.
I coded the forums to do it for you.
$10 says this is a mafia voting for another mafia who is not under any immediate risk of dying, but wants to say "hey I voted for a mafia!" when Dumpshock inevitably dies because he is way too suspicious.
Of the 52 games prior to this one, placeholder was used in 37 of them. 18 of which used it more than twice. I don't store comprehensive role information though so you'd still have to check manually.
These 5 games had 10-18 uses:
http://phyphor.padev.net/phalla/phalla_specific.php?phalla=6
http://phyphor.padev.net/phalla/phalla_specific.php?phalla=29
http://phyphor.padev.net/phalla/phalla_specific.php?phalla=21
http://phyphor.padev.net/phalla/phalla_specific.php?phalla=26
http://phyphor.padev.net/phalla/phalla_specific.php?phalla=35
I will clarify my own shoddy writing: Prototype Ordinance is the same thing as Prototype Technology
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dumpshock is a little suspicious as well, but hey, there's always tomorrow I guess
the whole "specials, don't declare yourselves, or you can't be guarded!" seems like it could, conceivably, be a very bold, very difficult to disprove ploy by the mafia to keep a network from forming, so I'm keeping an eye on infidel (hardly the only person doing so, I'm sure)
as it stands though, like I said, Anialos
it hasn't just been VOTE FOR ANIALOS BECAUSE I'M SO CHARMING
Its likely nothing, but Roman, trying to stir up suspicion? Attempting to save Anialos? Unlikey, but...noted.
Also, Roman, you used the "S" word.
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Really? Other than doing EXACTLY WHAT YOU ALL ARE DOING BY FOLLOWING HIM, he has no arguments. In fact he hasn't even posted anything today other than self confirmation and my name in bold red text on the matter today. Sure, it may provide some voting record, but that doesn't make his initial reasoning any better!
What exactly is the logic that should be taken as "common sense" then?
Where is your defense at all?
Are you incapable of making one, or is your position just simply indefensible?
Can Infidel keep making questions that people can't answer?
Should he answer that one himself?
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Stop spelling out all my tried-and-true winning mafia tactics, damnit!
:evil:
Then AkimboLegs follows that same line of thought.
I post my reasons Here
They are not addressed
Figgy and Akimbo get me posting in my defense
None of the actual points of my post are addressed other than to try to thoroughly discredit that our voting patterns have not been dissimilar
Then there is this: "Look at my posts they are innocent!" "I think your reasoning is bad so therefore invald!!" "I think you over reacted!"
I didn't address AkimboLegs comment earlier about not discouraging vote analysis. I'm actual not discouraging vote analysis. I'm discouraging vote analysis that is backing a false opinion, or in my own possibly false opinion, backing a specific agenda to kill a villager and fudge said vote records.
All the things.
Infidel revealed important info about guards.
Infidel and Anialos are fighting
Figgy and Dumpshock are fighting
We did some research into placeholder votes.
edit: and then everything happened
edit 2: all the things
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The reason you are suspicious boils down to: acting (from our point of view) very similarly to how you did last game - when you won and survived as mafia. It is kind of icing on the cake that you went from almost inactive to posting every page as soon as you came under fire. Not that I'd necessarily expect any less from most people, but it does mean that your early inactivity is more suspect. Of course, everything in phalla is suspect, so
Mafia are often guilty of throwaway votes, something you are guilty of. I'm still not sure if you are trying to tip that same behaviour back on Figgy, but from where I stand, his votes have had more backing to them than "placeholders". Maybe not a lot more? I'd have to check more carefully, but either way, it isn't specifically WHO you voted for that matters (early phalla voting is hard to analyze until mafia turn up), but HOW you did it.
Your last sentence is a little confusing - is it saying that we shouldn't analyze voting records that are targeting people you think are villagers (ie: Anialos)?
Did I vote yet? Analios
I could index every game ever played, except it would hammer the server. Maybe I'll do that on a delay or whatever
Sorry busy
One day, I will be the death of you all.
just kidding.
Oops! Wasn't thinking it mattered if the vote itself stays the same, but I can see why it might be an issue.
Dumpshock
Busy enough to drop a throwaway vote without offering any justification?
Just stalk his profile all creepy like and see if he is active between now and vote close. See if he is really busy.
Sorry, that was confusing so I'll clarify by PM if you like. However..... don't infer what I said onto the Anialos thing. I'm still partial convinced Infidel is trying to see what shakes loose and will change his vote before close.
Too be fair, it looks like retaba did the same thing too