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When the bar comes off your chest... don't stop [Weightlifting thread]

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    FroThulhuFroThulhu Registered User regular
    @Arthil

    Yeah, the mass thing is all about diet. But, from my experience, you really have to understand our own metabolism and 'body type.' I'm about to just give in to the fact that I'm a lean type of guy.

    And, with company like Snipes, Crews and Lee, I can deal with that. Big guys, who have trouble dropping weight and size, get to hang with the powerlifters and full-on builders.

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    ArthilArthil Registered User regular
    FroThulhu wrote: »
    @Arthil

    Yeah, the mass thing is all about diet. But, from my experience, you really have to understand our own metabolism and 'body type.' I'm about to just give in to the fact that I'm a lean type of guy.

    And, with company like Snipes, Crews and Lee, I can deal with that. Big guys, who have trouble dropping weight and size, get to hang with the powerlifters and full-on builders.

    Couldn't say which one I am, but I shaved 7 pounds off my first week, and since I weighed myself earlier this week I've already gone down 4. Not like I'm not eating either, the amount of what I eat hasn't changed much. It's just I'm having more chicken, turkey, and fish.

    PSN: Honishimo Steam UPlay: Arthil
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    TubeTube Registered User admin
    Losing weight is more about what you don't eat than what you do

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    RabidDeathMooseRabidDeathMoose Registered User regular
    Arthil wrote: »
    Well if a rack+bench combo would in fact work out better I need to make sure the bench can hold my weight. And being able to put it at an incline is what I believe I need to do for seated overhead presses. Unless I can do them without resting my back against something?

    Edit: Said weight is 364 lbs by the way, that's why I've been looking specifically at full on weight benches. Plain old benches don't seem to have the weight capacity unless they're in the $150+ range.

    If I understand you correctly the only reason you're doing seated overhead press is due to you having limited ceiling clearance for standing press right? My question then, is if you'd had unlimited ceiling height, would you have found a wall to lean against while you were doing standing overhead press? My hunch is that you would not.

    You don't need to lean against anything doing a seated overhead press, in fact that would be a little counter productive seeing as having something to lean against reduces the need for your core to remain tight.

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    PeenPeen Registered User regular
    FroThulhu wrote: »
    I realise this isn't necessarily the place for bragging, and I comparison to you guys this isn't really much to brag about, but...

    Deadlift 8x225
    bench 8x165

    These are my "max," at the end of three sets. And this is after two months. I'm a kinda stringy guy, at 6' 196lbs.

    And I don't seem to be able to put on mass AT ALL.

    But I thank this thread for all my progress.

    Man this is totally the place to brag, brag away. If I do something I'm proud of I brag like I did something.

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    Dead LegendDead Legend Registered User regular
    FroThulhu wrote: »
    I realise this isn't necessarily the place for bragging, and I comparison to you guys this isn't really much to brag about, but...

    Deadlift 8x225
    bench 8x165

    These are my "max," at the end of three sets. And this is after two months. I'm a kinda stringy guy, at 6' 196lbs.

    And I don't seem to be able to put on mass AT ALL.

    But I thank this thread for all my progress.

    ain't nobody in here gonna rag on you for numbers, brag away my friend

    and good work. high reps of deadlift work ain't nothing to sneeze at

    diablo III - beardsnbeer#1508 Mechwarrior Online - Rusty Bock
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    Dead LegendDead Legend Registered User regular
    @Peen beat me to it, shows what i know for not reading all posts before posting

    but then again who got 12 hours of sleep and then ate half a rotiserrie chicken from the grocery store??

    <-- this guy

    HEAVY DEADLIFTS WOOOOO

    diablo III - beardsnbeer#1508 Mechwarrior Online - Rusty Bock
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    SliderSlider Registered User regular
    So...I was a little hasty when I said that high rep sets make me feel great, compared to low rep/heavy weight sets.

    My entire body is sore and in pain. My back is still sore from two days ago and now my arms are killing me from yesterday's bicep/tricep workout.

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    PeenPeen Registered User regular
    @Peen beat me to it, shows what i know for not reading all posts before posting

    but then again who got 12 hours of sleep and then ate half a rotiserrie chicken from the grocery store??

    <-- this guy

    HEAVY DEADLIFTS WOOOOO

    Have fun pal, I've had my best deadlift days after a night of luxurious sleep. Nothing feels better than reaching down for the bar and having it explode off of the floor and realizing that this is going to be a good day for deadlifting.

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    Dead LegendDead Legend Registered User regular
    i am hoping that yes, that is the case

    got 4x5x408 today...probably bump that up to 415

    last week was murder, but that was coming off an alcohol fueled sleep

    diablo III - beardsnbeer#1508 Mechwarrior Online - Rusty Bock
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    TheRealBadgerTheRealBadger Registered User regular
    Time for testing then. I just had a super shitty sleep but I did also have lots of chicken. We will test how good deadlift day is.

    Just ploughing through chicken in the kitchen.

    "Jake, what are you doing?"

    "Empirical testing. Eliminating variables"

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    MogsMogs Registered User regular
    Okay weightlifting thread, I've lurked here for long enough, I'm finally diving in. Recently decided to change the weight training I was doing with a personal trainer to heavy, compound lifts (my trainer is a powerlifter, himself). After two weeks of this, I can easily say I'm hooked (my husband thinks I'm crazy).

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    That Dave FellaThat Dave Fella Registered User regular
    He's the crazy one.

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    PeenPeen Registered User regular
    Mogs wrote: »
    Okay weightlifting thread, I've lurked here for long enough, I'm finally diving in. Recently decided to change the weight training I was doing with a personal trainer to heavy, compound lifts (my trainer is a powerlifter, himself). After two weeks of this, I can easily say I'm hooked (my husband thinks I'm crazy).

    Just because it's interesting, are you a lady? Because powerlifting ladies are pretty much the best.

    Either way congratulations and welcome aboard, lifting weights is a good thing.

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    BuddiesBuddies Registered User regular
    Man I love Friday Afternoons. All the people I hate that go to the gym never show up on Friday. They will be out drinking Margaritas or something talking about what they would do if they win the lottery tonight. And I will be in the Gym power cleaning away, with a smile on my face.

    TGIF everybody

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    That Dave FellaThat Dave Fella Registered User regular
    Friday is hella busy at my gym and the weight area is already pretty small. Gotta work in wherever you can.

    PSN: ThatDaveFella
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    That Dave FellaThat Dave Fella Registered User regular
    I need to cut out the rest of the crap I still eat and get onto a proper lean diet. I want to get rid of this belly!

    We've a meat wholesalers next door to us and you can get 40 fillets for €30 which is pretty good.

    PSN: ThatDaveFella
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    MogsMogs Registered User regular
    Peen wrote: »
    Just because it's interesting, are you a lady? Because powerlifting ladies are pretty much the best.

    Either way congratulations and welcome aboard, lifting weights is a good thing.

    I am, and thanks! I'm looking forward to sharing my experiences here.

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    BEAST!BEAST! Adventurer Adventure!!!!!Registered User regular
    Mogs wrote: »
    Peen wrote: »
    Just because it's interesting, are you a lady? Because powerlifting ladies are pretty much the best.

    Either way congratulations and welcome aboard, lifting weights is a good thing.

    I am, and thanks! I'm looking forward to sharing my experiences here.
    just make sure you don't share them with Slider, he's a creep.

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    That Dave FellaThat Dave Fella Registered User regular
    Having my gym membership lapse and then not going for two weeks sucked but I felt I did good this week. I lifted heavier things and hopefully next week will be better progress.

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    That Dave FellaThat Dave Fella Registered User regular
    What will work my traps?

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    PeenPeen Registered User regular
    Deadlifts, barbell shrugs, dumbbell shrugs. Shrug big, get yoked. Yoke up son.

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    That Dave FellaThat Dave Fella Registered User regular
    Ah so that's what people work when they do those shrugs. I've only deadlifted once. My current back workout is bent over rows and seated rows and some lat pulldowns.

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    MogsMogs Registered User regular
    BEAST! wrote: »
    Mogs wrote: »
    Peen wrote: »
    Just because it's interesting, are you a lady? Because powerlifting ladies are pretty much the best.

    Either way congratulations and welcome aboard, lifting weights is a good thing.

    I am, and thanks! I'm looking forward to sharing my experiences here.
    just make sure you don't share them with Slider, he's a creep.

    I'll try to keep that in mind. :P

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    SchideSchide Yeoh! Registered User regular
    Keep working on your traps until it looks like someone shoved some footballs in there.

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    Dead LegendDead Legend Registered User regular
    edited March 2012
    shitty day just felt pretty sluggish. kinda surprised. training partner suggested i should've had more carbs, i agree, could've had more. shoulda ate more.

    oh well next time!

    4x6x265 on squats, 3x5x415 on deadlifts...didn't finish the last set because my back was acting wonky
    then did some leg lifts, supinated lat pulldowns, and reverse hypers

    the gym was incredibly fucking hot and humid today

    also weighed 252 today, even after sweating my ass off!

    i weighed 242 back in january

    Dead Legend on
    diablo III - beardsnbeer#1508 Mechwarrior Online - Rusty Bock
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    ninzorjonsninzorjons Registered User regular
    edited March 2012
    Buddies wrote: »
    Man I love Friday Afternoons. All the people I hate that go to the gym never show up on Friday. They will be out drinking Margaritas or something talking about what they would do if they win the lottery tonight. And I will be in the Gym power cleaning away, with a smile on my face.

    TGIF everybody

    Kind of the opposite for me, it's the GTL guidos that come in during the afternoon so everything is taken for the wrong reasons.

    Also someone mentioned trap work? I started doing power shrugs they are legit

    ninzorjons on
    "Be excellent to each other."
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    ArthilArthil Registered User regular
    Arthil wrote: »
    Well if a rack+bench combo would in fact work out better I need to make sure the bench can hold my weight. And being able to put it at an incline is what I believe I need to do for seated overhead presses. Unless I can do them without resting my back against something?

    Edit: Said weight is 364 lbs by the way, that's why I've been looking specifically at full on weight benches. Plain old benches don't seem to have the weight capacity unless they're in the $150+ range.

    If I understand you correctly the only reason you're doing seated overhead press is due to you having limited ceiling clearance for standing press right? My question then, is if you'd had unlimited ceiling height, would you have found a wall to lean against while you were doing standing overhead press? My hunch is that you would not.

    You don't need to lean against anything doing a seated overhead press, in fact that would be a little counter productive seeing as having something to lean against reduces the need for your core to remain tight.

    *Deletes the video he'd found to demonstrate a seated overhead press* Well fuck. Anyway! Decided to forgo my lift today, even if my shoulder feels "fine" I'd rather not take the risk. Wondering if I should do something extra next week to make up for it, some bodyweight exercises maybe or just a bit of cardio. I know exactly what caused the problem though, and until I decide whether to get the bench or find a gym I might need to do dumbbell equivalents to avoid hurting my shoulder again.

    Sucks when you can't even do a floor press properly without picking the bar up in a fucked up way =/.

    PSN: Honishimo Steam UPlay: Arthil
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    MethuselahMethuselah United StatesRegistered User regular
    Mogs wrote: »
    Okay weightlifting thread, I've lurked here for long enough, I'm finally diving in. Recently decided to change the weight training I was doing with a personal trainer to heavy, compound lifts (my trainer is a powerlifter, himself). After two weeks of this, I can easily say I'm hooked (my husband thinks I'm crazy).

    Make sure you pic up some microplates, or make your own! You will need to load your press and bench with less than 5 lb increments, and your squats will need it not too far in the future. For reference, I train with a ladyfriend of mine, and she was weak as sin when we started, couldn't squat bar. We began microloading at 75x5x3. Bench and press began with 2.5lb increments immediately.

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    TheRealBadgerTheRealBadger Registered User regular
    Australian raw nationals are live streaming: http://www.ustream.tv/channel/raw-nationals

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    MogsMogs Registered User regular
    Methuselah wrote: »
    Mogs wrote: »
    Okay weightlifting thread, I've lurked here for long enough, I'm finally diving in. Recently decided to change the weight training I was doing with a personal trainer to heavy, compound lifts (my trainer is a powerlifter, himself). After two weeks of this, I can easily say I'm hooked (my husband thinks I'm crazy).

    Make sure you pic up some microplates, or make your own! You will need to load your press and bench with less than 5 lb increments, and your squats will need it not too far in the future. For reference, I train with a ladyfriend of mine, and she was weak as sin when we started, couldn't squat bar. We began microloading at 75x5x3. Bench and press began with 2.5lb increments immediately.

    Right now I'm doing sets of 8, 5, 3, 1 (3 times), and 8 again, moving up 10lbs each time. My "1's" as of this past week were 125 (squat, could be doing more, but I started at a certain weight, and we're moving up 5lbs each week), 155 (deadlift), and 95 (bench).

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    ArthilArthil Registered User regular
    edited March 2012
    I'm curious about something guys, is there a barbell or dumbbell lift that I can use in place of a floor press and seated overhead press until I have access of any kind to a bench? I don't want to be doing that very awkward motion to get the bar in place for the floor press, and for the seated OHP I lift the bar up, sit down and rest it in my lap before positioning it.

    As you can tell, not exactly good form.

    Arthil on
    PSN: Honishimo Steam UPlay: Arthil
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    chidonachidona Registered User regular
    Hey guys, I'm going to start gymming it up soon with the routine:

    Squat or leg press 2 x 12-15
    Lat pulldown 2 x 12-15
    Standing overhead shoulder press 2 x 12-15
    One-arm dumbbell row 2 x 12-15
    Bench press 2 x 12-15
    Calf raise 1 x 15
    Ab crunches or Swiss ball crunches 2 x 12-15

    I want to know what sort of warm up I would need to do for that rotation? I've never been to a gym before, is there usually a room for warm up stuff, or am I going to have to do it on a random floor space?

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    The Black HunterThe Black Hunter The key is a minimum of compromise, and a simple, unimpeachable reason to existRegistered User regular
    Random floorspace is fine, so long as it's not somewhere really awkward. Usually there'll be an open space for it.

    People won't flay you alive for being new

    if they do they probably have bad diarrhea and stupid eyebrows

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    moocowmoocow Registered User regular
    I usually just warm-up by doing whatever lift I'm doing but with lighter weight.

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    PeenPeen Registered User regular
    Mogs wrote: »
    Methuselah wrote: »
    Mogs wrote: »
    Okay weightlifting thread, I've lurked here for long enough, I'm finally diving in. Recently decided to change the weight training I was doing with a personal trainer to heavy, compound lifts (my trainer is a powerlifter, himself). After two weeks of this, I can easily say I'm hooked (my husband thinks I'm crazy).

    Make sure you pic up some microplates, or make your own! You will need to load your press and bench with less than 5 lb increments, and your squats will need it not too far in the future. For reference, I train with a ladyfriend of mine, and she was weak as sin when we started, couldn't squat bar. We began microloading at 75x5x3. Bench and press began with 2.5lb increments immediately.

    Right now I'm doing sets of 8, 5, 3, 1 (3 times), and 8 again, moving up 10lbs each time. My "1's" as of this past week were 125 (squat, could be doing more, but I started at a certain weight, and we're moving up 5lbs each week), 155 (deadlift), and 95 (bench).

    I'll preface this with this isn't meant to be condescending at all but those are pretty good 1RMs if you're just starting out. I know you said you were doing some kind of weight training before with a personal trainer but still. Nice work.

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    ProlegomenaProlegomena Frictionless Spinning The VoidRegistered User regular
    (Box) Squat PR this afternoon, 120kg for 3x5 without much of a hitch, bit dizzy after the last one mind.

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    Mr. ButtonsMr. Buttons Registered User regular
    Arthil wrote: »
    I'm curious about something guys, is there a barbell or dumbbell lift that I can use in place of a floor press and seated overhead press until I have access of any kind to a bench? I don't want to be doing that very awkward motion to get the bar in place for the floor press, and for the seated OHP I lift the bar up, sit down and rest it in my lap before positioning it.

    As you can tell, not exactly good form.

    I've been using parts of this - http://www.reddit.com/help/faqs/Fitness
    which contains a link to this http://www.exrx.net/Lists/WtMale.html (NSFW? I don't know, it's an anatomical model...) which is a nice map for exercises for specific muscles and groups

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    Mr. ButtonsMr. Buttons Registered User regular
    I decided to switch up from machine to free-weight on a couple of my lifts.... felt good, but definitely was humbling.

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    MogsMogs Registered User regular
    Peen wrote: »
    Mogs wrote: »
    Methuselah wrote: »
    Mogs wrote: »
    Okay weightlifting thread, I've lurked here for long enough, I'm finally diving in. Recently decided to change the weight training I was doing with a personal trainer to heavy, compound lifts (my trainer is a powerlifter, himself). After two weeks of this, I can easily say I'm hooked (my husband thinks I'm crazy).

    Make sure you pic up some microplates, or make your own! You will need to load your press and bench with less than 5 lb increments, and your squats will need it not too far in the future. For reference, I train with a ladyfriend of mine, and she was weak as sin when we started, couldn't squat bar. We began microloading at 75x5x3. Bench and press began with 2.5lb increments immediately.

    Right now I'm doing sets of 8, 5, 3, 1 (3 times), and 8 again, moving up 10lbs each time. My "1's" as of this past week were 125 (squat, could be doing more, but I started at a certain weight, and we're moving up 5lbs each week), 155 (deadlift), and 95 (bench).

    I'll preface this with this isn't meant to be condescending at all but those are pretty good 1RMs if you're just starting out. I know you said you were doing some kind of weight training before with a personal trainer but still. Nice work.

    It's not condescending - I've got to start somewhere. Squats feel really good, deadlifts are harder form-wise (I just need to get over the fact that I'm going to scrape my shins/knees a bit), bench is the only thing where I'm feeling limited in my strength at this point.

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