Chevy Chase has always been hard to work with. Nobody even wanted to show up to roast him in his '02 comedy central roast. Having heard Dan Harmon on The Indoor Kids podcast just chilling and shooting the shit about playing too much Skyrim, I tend to think he's fairly laid back and Chase probably asked hard for any bad treatment he got.
Honestly, I don't think Community would miss a beat without him. He has some funny scenes to be certain, but I think they'd be fine without him for sure.
If chase is kicked off I'm not sure that's actually a huge loss. Pierce is my least favorite character and he usually doesn't contribute too much.
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This isn't all that surprising; that panel a couple weeks ago had the whole cast throwing thinly veiled insults at Chevy, and that wrap party story, if even remotely true? Holy shit that's a terrible thing to do to someone.
The whole wrap party thing sounds grossly unprofessional. If I was Chevy, I would not bother with them. Heck, I would get out the lawyers. The way things are with the story, however, does put the Pierce character on a downward spiral. So, the plan might have been for him to exit anyway.
Still, this might be a publicity stunt. Also, putting the voice mail out in the media is highly tacky. My respect for the shows creators has taken a huge nosedive.
I'll have to see if the internet is ripping Dan a new one.
Chevy Chase has always been hard to work with. Nobody even wanted to show up to roast him in his '02 comedy central roast. Having heard Dan Harmon on The Indoor Kids podcast just chilling and shooting the shit about playing too much Skyrim, I tend to think he's fairly laid back and Chase probably asked hard for any bad treatment he got.
Honestly, I don't think Community would miss a beat without him. He has some funny scenes to be certain, but I think they'd be fine without him for sure.
Giving a "Fuck You" speech in front of that persons family is a horrible thing to do regardless of how hard Chewy is to work with. It's inexcusable.
Calling it a speech might be inaccurate since the term implies formality and preparation, like Harmon was cursing Chase out from behind a podium and while reading off of a TelePrompTer.
Also, the mentioning of Chase's family being there makes it sound like a deliberate attempt to humiliate Chase in front of his family, which might not have been the case.
The way I see it, Chevy fucked everyone over on the last day of filming and probably forced them to do a hasty rewrite in the process. Then Chase had the gall to show up at the wrap party, even though he'd screwed up the very thing that the crew was celebrating.
Now assuming Harmon didn't plan his diatribe in advance, I expect that he was just really pissed to see Chase there and, without even thinking of Chase's family, decided to just let Chase have it and vent all the frustration from the finale and everything that may've happened prior.
Totally unprofessional, but not unthinkable given how much love Harmon puts into the show and how stressful things can be at the end of production. If you listen to the commentary for S2's finale, you'll know that the cast and crew were operating entirely without sleep. Couple that with anxieties about cancellation, and you have a recipe for this kind of blowout.
Guys, you're thinking about this all wrong. If Chase gets booted between seasons 3 and 4, that means season 4 they can replace him with a different actor in the same part as Pierce and none of the cast acts like it happened, a la Aunt Viv in Fresh Prince. It gives them a built-in trope to work with.
Not much Pierce has done makes me care if Chase sticks around or not. The hospital episode where he's just fucking with people was really good. I loved his role in the trampoline episode (that '...father' moment is just perfect. Followed by the dumpster fall.) But by and large, I don't get a lot out of Pierce as a character. He was a lot better in season 1. I think he suffered from flanderization.
It would be totally hilarious if they did that and Abed is the only one that notices. It would solidify the idea that he does know he is in a TV show.
Then they go all St. Elsewhere at the end of Season 4, ending the series.
The show could be just a script Abed was writing and he has no friends in the "real world". Ever notice that Abed is always good at everything and so insightful?
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It would be totally hilarious if they did that and Abed is the only one that notices. It would solidify the idea that he does know he is in a TV show.
Then they go all St. Elsewhere at the end of Season 4, ending the series.
The show could be just a script Abed was writing and he has no friends in the "real world". Ever notice that Abed is always good at everything and so insightful?
Everything is just the script Abed wrote after having the first study group meeting and at the end he gets up to go to his second study-group meeting.
He walks in and the study-group is the people from the fake study-group he used for his webseries.
I'd miss Chevy if he left, he was great in the first season and I really like his awful awful character. I think the show would suffer without him, but it would survive.
If they did kill off his character though I agree completely that Abed would try and "recast" him, probably with the elderly actor he works with on his Community show.
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I'd miss Chevy if he left, he was great in the first season and I really like his awful awful character. I think the show would suffer without him, but it would survive.
If they did kill off his character though I agree completely that Abed would try and "recast" him, probably with the elderly actor he works with on his Community show.
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Oh man, I'm so bummed now, and a little bit changry. What do I do for my avatar now, huh? It does seem a case of two dicks colliding, and not in a way the Dean would like.
Chevy was the reason I watched the show to begin with, and I would hope they can hug it out and get everything fine for the fourth season, but if it does resort in Chevy leaving, just bring in Chang full-time to the group (unless he's filming Hangover 3) or Fat Neil or bring back Rich (please please please)
I just don't want to see someone close to being a Pierce but not really show up, like when the last season of That 70's Show had some guy come in to be the Eric of the show basically, or if Catherine Tate shows up now and I just burn everything down.
Guys, you're thinking about this all wrong. If Chase gets booted between seasons 3 and 4, that means season 4 they can replace him with a different actor in the same part as Pierce and none of the cast acts like it happened, a la Aunt Viv in Fresh Prince. It gives them a built-in trope to work with.
"Does Pierce seem a little different to you this semester?"
"Hmm, he's shorter maybe?"
"Yeah, that's what it is."
There. That's literally all it would take. Show saved.
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Better yet
They can get a random guy with a goatee
And tie it into the whole darkest timeline thing.
That would actually be awesome.
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I don't know. Too meta for my tastes. I actually feel for Chevy, since he seems to get made fun of a lot in the commentaries, even if they were in jest, which hints at the sort of relationships he has with the crew.
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TexiKenDammit!That fish really got me!Registered Userregular
edited March 2012
Pierce walked through an unused door in his mansion and teleported to the evil universe, where he never felt more at home.
Here's an interview with Chevy, done around the time S3 wrapped, but posted today. Not the most positive indicator of Chevy's future at Community (or his opinion of the show), even before this incident.
I don't know. Too meta for my tastes. I actually feel for Chevy, since he seems to get made fun of a lot in the commentaries, even if they were in jest, which hints at the sort of relationships he has with the crew.
He's a real dick in the commentaries too, though, like when he asks the people siting with him to say who the hottest female cast member is. There's other stuff too, but my memory isn't fresh.
I really like Pierce as a character and I think he's had the best character arc so far, but I do think Chevy's in the wrong here.
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I don't want to read that interview, this is seriously like your parents getting in a big fight and you don't want to take sides. I've got my favorite modern show up against all those great 80's movies Chevy did, I can't pick one, you know?
I don't want to read that interview, this is seriously like your parents getting in a big fight and you don't want to take sides. I've got my favorite modern show up against all those great 80's movies Chevy did, I can't pick one, you know?
After reading the interview.... I have to agree with him about the direction Community seems to be going. It's taken a page from the Family Guy playbook in the last season and run with it, let's cram as many references to other things into the show and be as wacky as we possibly can. There's no progress in the characters any more.
That's complete bullshit. Shirley has gotten a lot of interesting attention this season, as has Britta. Troy and Abed are both moving forward as characters, AND their relationship is changing and being tested. Really the only characters that have been neglected this season are Annie and maybe a little bit of Pierce, who seems to have something in motion for him right now.
After reading the interview.... I have to agree with him about the direction Community seems to be going. It's taken a page from the Family Guy playbook in the last season and run with it, let's cram as many references to other things into the show and be as wacky as we possibly can. There's no progress in the characters any more.
I agree that it's no longer rooted in the school setting, but I don't think that that's a bad thing. You can only get so much mileage out of watching people take classes.
Jeff has had some change, or at least attempted it with going on medication last week.
Chang has had too much chang, going from Senor Chang, feared teacher, to pathetic loser Rent-a-Cop Chang.
S1 Chang could have pulled of becoming something like Vice Dean Laybourne. S3 Chang? If there is one character I want gone... because he just makes me sad to see him in this state.
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Honestly, I don't think Community would miss a beat without him. He has some funny scenes to be certain, but I think they'd be fine without him for sure.
Still, this might be a publicity stunt. Also, putting the voice mail out in the media is highly tacky. My respect for the shows creators has taken a huge nosedive.
I'll have to see if the internet is ripping Dan a new one.
Giving a "Fuck You" speech in front of that persons family is a horrible thing to do regardless of how hard Chewy is to work with. It's inexcusable.
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Also, the mentioning of Chase's family being there makes it sound like a deliberate attempt to humiliate Chase in front of his family, which might not have been the case.
The way I see it, Chevy fucked everyone over on the last day of filming and probably forced them to do a hasty rewrite in the process. Then Chase had the gall to show up at the wrap party, even though he'd screwed up the very thing that the crew was celebrating.
Now assuming Harmon didn't plan his diatribe in advance, I expect that he was just really pissed to see Chase there and, without even thinking of Chase's family, decided to just let Chase have it and vent all the frustration from the finale and everything that may've happened prior.
Totally unprofessional, but not unthinkable given how much love Harmon puts into the show and how stressful things can be at the end of production. If you listen to the commentary for S2's finale, you'll know that the cast and crew were operating entirely without sleep. Couple that with anxieties about cancellation, and you have a recipe for this kind of blowout.
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Or if they killed Pierce, Abed's incredibly dark and strange response might be to try to recast him.
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Then they go all St. Elsewhere at the end of Season 4, ending the series.
The show could be just a script Abed was writing and he has no friends in the "real world". Ever notice that Abed is always good at everything and so insightful?
Everything is just the script Abed wrote after having the first study group meeting and at the end he gets up to go to his second study-group meeting.
He walks in and the study-group is the people from the fake study-group he used for his webseries.
If they did kill off his character though I agree completely that Abed would try and "recast" him, probably with the elderly actor he works with on his Community show.
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Chevy was the reason I watched the show to begin with, and I would hope they can hug it out and get everything fine for the fourth season, but if it does resort in Chevy leaving, just bring in Chang full-time to the group (unless he's filming Hangover 3) or Fat Neil or bring back Rich (please please please)
I just don't want to see someone close to being a Pierce but not really show up, like when the last season of That 70's Show had some guy come in to be the Eric of the show basically, or if Catherine Tate shows up now and I just burn everything down.
"Does Pierce seem a little different to you this semester?"
"Hmm, he's shorter maybe?"
"Yeah, that's what it is."
There. That's literally all it would take. Show saved.
They can get a random guy with a goatee
And tie it into the whole darkest timeline thing.
That would actually be awesome.
He's a real dick in the commentaries too, though, like when he asks the people siting with him to say who the hottest female cast member is. There's other stuff too, but my memory isn't fresh.
I really like Pierce as a character and I think he's had the best character arc so far, but I do think Chevy's in the wrong here.
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I agree that it's no longer rooted in the school setting, but I don't think that that's a bad thing. You can only get so much mileage out of watching people take classes.
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Chang has had too much chang, going from Senor Chang, feared teacher, to pathetic loser Rent-a-Cop Chang.
S1 Chang could have pulled of becoming something like Vice Dean Laybourne. S3 Chang? If there is one character I want gone... because he just makes me sad to see him in this state.
Considering this season, Gillian Jacobs would be the biggest loss. She's been the MVP of season 3 so far.
She's been excellent through the entire series.