I said a long time back, the Tea Party is getting the VP slot no matter what. Romney has to do it to keep the Tea Party halfway engaged; the Tea Party candidates wouldn't be interested at all in ticket balance.
So I'd look in that direction.
Additionally, you want someone from Dixie/Texas.
Honestly no one springs to mind.
Well, it can't be anyone Romney's already defeated. The field's already considered weak as it is. So Rick Perry's out of luck, as is Gingrich.
Considering Romney's going to be counted as Massachusetts-based for election purposes, the Northeast is probably out of play (and Massachusetts prohibited by way of Constitution, meaning no Scott Brown)- Christie's out; New Jersey doesn't balance Massachusetts. The state's November prospects tend to not get taken much into account; just where on the map it sits. Cheney was from Wyoming balancing Texas, Lieberman from Connecticut balancing Tennessee, Biden from Delaware balancing Illinois, Palin from Alaska balancing Arizona, Edwards from North Carolina balancing Massachusetts, Jack Kemp from New York balancing Kansas.
Romney is also not going to want to be surprised. Not after Palin. He's going to want to know exactly who it is he's taking with him.
Red meat, not from the northeast, known quantity, hasn't seen action in the race yet. Probably someone to help humanize Romney. Start from there.
Well, yeah, I just meant I couldn't think of anyone offhand.
Tea Party Caucus seems like as good a place as any to start pulling names.
Trimming to Protestants who aren't freshman, are of the Bible Belt, under 70:
Robert Aderholt, Alabama
Todd Akin, Missouri
Rodney Alexander, Louisiana
Joe Barton, Texas
Gus Bilirakis, Florida
Michael C. Burgess, Texas
Paul Broun, Georgia
John Carter, Texas
Bill Cassidy, Louisiana
Ander Crenshaw, Florida
John Culberson, Texas
Trent Franks, Arizona
Louie Gohmert, Texas
Lynn Jenkins, Kansas
Steve King, Iowa
Kenny Marchant, Texas
Randy Neugebauer, Texas
Mike Pence, Indiana
Ted Poe, Texas
Tom Price, Georgia
Phil Roe, Tennessee
Pete Sessions, Texas
Lamar Smith, Texas
Cliff Stearns, Florida
Lynn Westmoreland, Georgia
Joe Wilson, South Carolina
Jim DeMint, South Carolina
Trimming to those who don't have widespread negative name recognition but have done the kind of stupid shit the Tea Party loves:
Todd Akin, Missouri
Louie Gohmert, Texas
Lynn Jenkins, Kansas
Steve King, Iowa
Randy Neugebauer, Texas
Mike Pence, Indiana
Ted Poe, Texas
Jim DeMint, South Carolina
Of those, DeMint is the obvious winner, but I really like Louie Gohmert, Todd Akin, and Lynn Jenkins as possibilities, too. DeMint and Akin are both Presbyterian; Jenkins is a Methodist; Gohmert is a Baptist. Advantage Gohmert, but the guy has Captain Picard hair so he's probably out due to lack of photogenicity.
Looking at governors the only people who jump out are Sam Brownback of Kansas and John Kaisch of Ohio.
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I hope that Romney reaches into the succesful past of the Republican party and selects George Bush the Lesser as VP Or Dick Cheney. Can ex-presidents even be VP? It would be excellent if his choice of running mate could also create a constitutional crisis
In the case of Bush 1, I'm not entirely sure, but I think he could potentially be vice-president, but in the event of succession, he could only be president for no greater than 4 years.
I don't think that, if something happened and he had to finish Romney's first term in office, he could run for a second term.
The absolute maximum is ten years for anyone. If you take over with less than half a term to go, you get to try for two terms of your own. If you take over with more than half the term to go, it counts as your first term.
Given Bush 41's already done one term, in his case that halfway point would determine whether he got to run again at all.
And as for governors, I would not be totally surprised if Scott Walker and Vic Snyder wormed their way into the conversation at some point. Even though Walker is actively facing recall. Walker might consider it his eject button if he starts figuring he's going to lose. Or, for that matter, his victory lap if he wins.
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I have a new soccer blog The Minnow Tank. Reading it psychically kicks Sepp Blatter in the bean bag.
Isn't it highly unusual for two governors to be the ticket? I don't rightly remember, but it seems like someone looked into it back in 08, and it seems like two-gov tickets just don't win as often.
Walker's not going to survive the recall effort, and a few well-placed campaign ads could easily bring a large contingent of union voters into the Obama camp.
Walker's not going to survive the recall effort, and a few well-placed campaign ads could easily bring a large contingent of union voters into the Obama camp.
WI is probably the safest Democratic state outside of California and Hawaii so I'm not sure how this is relevant
But okay
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Walker's not going to survive the recall effort, and a few well-placed campaign ads could easily bring a large contingent of union voters into the Obama camp.
WI is probably the safest Democratic state outside of California and Hawaii so I'm not sure how this is relevant
But okay
What's going to be hilarious is when Romney loses his home state in November. Massachusetts is the most solidly Democratic thing ever.
Nah, it won't be close to Mondale or McGovern or anything. He'll still pull the entire Dixie south save Florida and North Carolina, as well as large chunks of flyover country. But he'll lose Pennsylvania, Ohio, Indiana, and New Mexico, and that's pretty much that unless Jersey or something bizarrely flips Red.
Edit: I think final outcomes look something like this, with Virginia maybe up for grabs.
There's no way Obama wins Indiana and loses Virginia, and there's also no way Obama loses either of Maine's districts whether or not he wins.
Nah, it won't be close to Mondale or McGovern or anything. He'll still pull the entire Dixie south save Florida and North Carolina, as well as large chunks of flyover country. But he'll lose Pennsylvania, Ohio, Indiana, and New Mexico, and that's pretty much that unless Jersey or something bizarrely flips Red.
Edit: I think final outcomes look something like this, with Virginia maybe up for grabs.
There's no way Obama wins Indiana and loses Virginia, and there's also no way Obama loses either of Maine's districts whether or not he wins.
I apparently remembered the Virginia poll being 60-40 the other way. Whoops!
Any chances they'd pick Bobby Jindal as VP candidate? Seems like he was a "rising star" in the GOP for a while.
As others have said, I'm already dreading another 7 months or so of election coverage. Almost every day driving home I listen to NPR, and almost every day they interview some "independent" voters at various rallies. Never do you hear someone say "I like Candidate X because of this and that policy, and this and that view." Instead, it's always "Candidate X seems like he understands me. He seems real, he gets me, blah blah".
Arg, maybe I should freeze myself until November.
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Isn't it highly unusual for two governors to be the ticket? I don't rightly remember, but it seems like someone looked into it back in 08, and it seems like two-gov tickets just don't win as often.
Could be mistaken.
They tend not to exist in the first part, frankly; apart from 2008, the last times were Governors Dewey of New York and Bricker of Ohio in 1940 and Warren of California in 1944, and both tickets lost. However, Governor Wilson of New Jersey and Marshall of Indiana won in 1912 and 1916. Before that, there was the successful pair of McKinley of Ohio and Roosevelt of New York in 1900, and that seems to be it.
Any chances they'd pick Bobby Jindal as VP candidate? Seems like he was a "rising star" in the GOP for a while.
Jindal was a rising star until he gave a disaster of a SotU response. No one has talked about him since.
Also, while Asian Indians are the fastest-growing minority in the US, their numbers are still small, and neither Louisiana nor any state adjacent to it will vote for Obama, so he doesn't bring much to the ticket. Particularly since Mitt needs foreign policy, and Jindal has none.
Let's be honest, here: Romney would never choose Thurston Howell as his veep. Thurston Howell may be rich, but he also knows the captain of a charter boat. Romney doesn't know the captain of a charter boat, but he has some great friends who are charter boat company owners.
“Sometimes I was successful and helped create jobs, other times I was not."
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I hope that Romney reaches into the succesful past of the Republican party and selects George Bush the Lesser as VP Or Dick Cheney. Can ex-presidents even be VP? It would be excellent if his choice of running mate could also create a constitutional crisis
In the case of Bush 1, I'm not entirely sure, but I think he could potentially be vice-president, but in the event of succession, he could only be president for no greater than 4 years.
I don't think that, if something happened and he had to finish Romney's first term in office, he could run for a second term.
Could he pick Supply Side Jesus as his Vice President? Does your VP have to be real, or can they be a fictional character If Romney wins, he promises to slay himself immediately so that Jesus will return and rule the nation.
I hope that Romney reaches into the succesful past of the Republican party and selects George Bush the Lesser as VP Or Dick Cheney. Can ex-presidents even be VP? It would be excellent if his choice of running mate could also create a constitutional crisis
In the case of Bush 1, I'm not entirely sure, but I think he could potentially be vice-president, but in the event of succession, he could only be president for no greater than 4 years.
I don't think that, if something happened and he had to finish Romney's first term in office, he could run for a second term.
Could he pick Supply Side Jesus as his Vice President? Does your VP have to be real, or can they be a fictional character If Romney wins, he promises to slay himself immediately so that Jesus will return and rule the nation.
But, like most politicians he promised more than he could deliver.
Huh? Did they make some kind of knockoff of The Office in the UK?
The American Office is the remake of the U.K. Office, itself a remake of the Japanese version.
Fixed that for you.
It kinda has to be a spinoff, actually, since they establish David Brent as a character in ours, too.
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Ok, new thread was not funny. I almost had a heart attack that there could be a Republican VP candidate with that damned Gilligan's Island character's name.
His first name is my last name, so that fucker's been following me around since I was like six.
That would be such a horrible reality for me to put up with for the next seven or eight months.
On MSNBC before they went to ads it was revealed a bill was passed into law that senators/representatives are no longer immune from insider trading.
Obama administration thread?
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"Coming to take your guns" is little more than a stock scare phrase every Republican nominee throws around regardless of how true it is or the opponent's actual stance or history on gun rights. It's right there with 'one of the most liberal X's in America' and 'will raise your taxes'.
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Mr. Romney asked on what other issues Mr. Obama would disclose his plans only after re-election.
“He wants us to re-elect him so we can find out what he will do,” Mr. Romney said.
“His intent is on hiding,” he said. “You and I are going to have to do the seeking.”
This has been a presiding theme over this whole campaign season.
"The first term has been a scam! A charade! All Obama has been doing with his pro-military centrism and business-friendly economic approach is lulling us to sleep! Can't you see?!"
Which, I mean, if that REALLY is Obama's plan . . . bra-vo, sir. Well played.
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Well, yeah, I just meant I couldn't think of anyone offhand.
Tea Party Caucus seems like as good a place as any to start pulling names.
Trimming to Protestants who aren't freshman, are of the Bible Belt, under 70:
Todd Akin, Missouri
Rodney Alexander, Louisiana
Joe Barton, Texas
Gus Bilirakis, Florida
Michael C. Burgess, Texas
Paul Broun, Georgia
John Carter, Texas
Bill Cassidy, Louisiana
Ander Crenshaw, Florida
John Culberson, Texas
Trent Franks, Arizona
Louie Gohmert, Texas
Lynn Jenkins, Kansas
Steve King, Iowa
Kenny Marchant, Texas
Randy Neugebauer, Texas
Mike Pence, Indiana
Ted Poe, Texas
Tom Price, Georgia
Phil Roe, Tennessee
Pete Sessions, Texas
Lamar Smith, Texas
Cliff Stearns, Florida
Lynn Westmoreland, Georgia
Joe Wilson, South Carolina
Jim DeMint, South Carolina
Trimming to those who don't have widespread negative name recognition but have done the kind of stupid shit the Tea Party loves:
Louie Gohmert, Texas
Lynn Jenkins, Kansas
Steve King, Iowa
Randy Neugebauer, Texas
Mike Pence, Indiana
Ted Poe, Texas
Jim DeMint, South Carolina
Of those, DeMint is the obvious winner, but I really like Louie Gohmert, Todd Akin, and Lynn Jenkins as possibilities, too. DeMint and Akin are both Presbyterian; Jenkins is a Methodist; Gohmert is a Baptist. Advantage Gohmert, but the guy has Captain Picard hair so he's probably out due to lack of photogenicity.
Looking at governors the only people who jump out are Sam Brownback of Kansas and John Kaisch of Ohio.
The absolute maximum is ten years for anyone. If you take over with less than half a term to go, you get to try for two terms of your own. If you take over with more than half the term to go, it counts as your first term.
Given Bush 41's already done one term, in his case that halfway point would determine whether he got to run again at all.
And as for governors, I would not be totally surprised if Scott Walker and Vic Snyder wormed their way into the conversation at some point. Even though Walker is actively facing recall. Walker might consider it his eject button if he starts figuring he's going to lose. Or, for that matter, his victory lap if he wins.
Could be mistaken.
WI is probably the safest Democratic state outside of California and Hawaii so I'm not sure how this is relevant
But okay
What's going to be hilarious is when Romney loses his home state in November. Massachusetts is the most solidly Democratic thing ever.
I apparently remembered the Virginia poll being 60-40 the other way. Whoops!
As others have said, I'm already dreading another 7 months or so of election coverage. Almost every day driving home I listen to NPR, and almost every day they interview some "independent" voters at various rallies. Never do you hear someone say "I like Candidate X because of this and that policy, and this and that view." Instead, it's always "Candidate X seems like he understands me. He seems real, he gets me, blah blah".
Arg, maybe I should freeze myself until November.
Jindal was a rising star until he gave a disaster of a SotU response. No one has talked about him since.
Crap, we're really playing the "Obama's gonna take our guns in his second term cause we can't vote him out" card, are we Romney?
The best part is that when asked about his budget plan, Romney said "I can't tell you until yet". Projecting!
@_J_
Just catching this one - it'd actually be "Bishop Romney".
(edit) or facial tattoo
(edit2) also moving diagonally
Projection is a beautiful thing.
Romney is actually, was actually I'm not sure if that's a "Once a Bishop always a Bishop" thing, a bishop of the mormon church.
But Bishop's the name of the android in Aliens. That fits for Romney even if he seems less human.
Fucking racist space elf.
I thought you never missed, Romney.
“Sometimes I was successful and helped create jobs, other times I was not."
Doc: That's right, twenty five years into the future. I've always dreamed on seeing the future, looking beyond my years, seeing the progress of mankind. I'll also be able to see who wins the next twenty-five world series.
Could he pick Supply Side Jesus as his Vice President? Does your VP have to be real, or can they be a fictional character
It is. My father-in-law just finished his 'calling'. He'll be Bishop sporkinlaw for the rest of his days, short of excom.
But, like most politicians he promised more than he could deliver.
The American Office is the spin-off from the U.K. Office.
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The race hasn't been certifiably over for more that 24 hours and I already hate Mitt Romney more.
Fixed that for you.
It kinda has to be a spinoff, actually, since they establish David Brent as a character in ours, too.
His first name is my last name, so that fucker's been following me around since I was like six.
That would be such a horrible reality for me to put up with for the next seven or eight months.
Obama administration thread?
#missed the joke
I'd post the thing I'm referencing, but the Invisible Hand of NBC Universal has removed all trace of it from the universe.
This has been a presiding theme over this whole campaign season.
"The first term has been a scam! A charade! All Obama has been doing with his pro-military centrism and business-friendly economic approach is lulling us to sleep! Can't you see?!"
Which, I mean, if that REALLY is Obama's plan . . . bra-vo, sir. Well played.