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A Thread About Movies

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  • KalTorakKalTorak Registered User regular
    I'd be very surprised if they didn't release some "movie edition" version of the boardgame, complete with alien ships.

  • Linespider5Linespider5 I'll see you in 24 hours. Registered User regular
    Buddies wrote: »
    Thomamelas wrote: »

    Wait.

    This is the video everyone's pissing and moaning, or just moaning, about?

    I don't know, people. I was expecting something cheesy or gratuitous. I didn't really get either out of that. In fact, I don't even know why this was made available. It's not bad, it's just...we don't know why this scene is important, or what it leads to, or anything. It doesn't even have a cliffhanger ending. It's just a middle.

    It's a middling middle, at that.

    Now, I'm sure someone with sufficient snark is gonna say that because this is a Whedon joint it's entirely possible the scene ends with Scarlett Johannsen getting double-tapped by some pseudo-Russian and then she learns everything from him and gets it back to SHIELD, but,

    This isn't bad, or good, or glorious. This is just a thing, that means utterly nothing by itself.

    Now I'm off to watch Senna.

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  • Kipling217Kipling217 Registered User regular
    That's turned me off on the entire thing. It looked so generic. I have seen that fucking movie so many times. Independence Day, Battle:LA and the Bayformers trilogy. Big budget, Snappy one liners and huge explosions. At least Iron Sky had heart.

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  • Harry DresdenHarry Dresden Registered User regular
    Malkor wrote: »
    The alien/robot/things from Battleship look like the most generic beings of that type imaginable. Also? I don't remember there being aliens in my version of Battleship, but maybe I was just doing it wrong.

    There wasn't. The original games were battles between navy fleets (and submarines), that's why adding aliens to the film is so ridiculous. Okay, more ridiculous then it already is.

    Right. Is there even some sort of tie-in anymore? Or is it just the name and a freed-up "IP" with Hasbro?

    I'd bet on the latter. This is why Hasbro fails and Marvel succeeds.

  • Harry DresdenHarry Dresden Registered User regular
    Kipling217 wrote: »
    That's turned me off on the entire thing. It looked so generic. I have seen that fucking movie so many times. Independence Day, Battle:LA and the Bayformers trilogy. Big budget, Snappy one liners and huge explosions. At least Iron Sky had heart.

    Whedon can make films with heart. Serenity was amazing.

  • shrykeshryke Member of the Beast Registered User regular
    Buddies wrote: »
    Thomamelas wrote: »

    Wait.

    This is the video everyone's pissing and moaning, or just moaning, about?

    I don't know, people. I was expecting something cheesy or gratuitous. I didn't really get either out of that. In fact, I don't even know why this was made available. It's not bad, it's just...we don't know why this scene is important, or what it leads to, or anything. It doesn't even have a cliffhanger ending. It's just a middle.

    It's a middling middle, at that.

    Now, I'm sure someone with sufficient snark is gonna say that because this is a Whedon joint it's entirely possible the scene ends with Scarlett Johannsen getting double-tapped by some pseudo-Russian and then she learns everything from him and gets it back to SHIELD, but,

    This isn't bad, or good, or glorious. This is just a thing, that means utterly nothing by itself.

    Now I'm off to watch Senna.

    My guess is it's one of the first scenes. The dialogue and such indicate it's the end of Black Widow's recruitment scene.

  • KalTorakKalTorak Registered User regular
    I thought the Trailers thread was the "judging entire movies based on 30 seconds of footage" thread.

  • TexiKenTexiKen you come after me because you can't arrest a land mass Registered User regular

    Now I'm off to watch Senna.

    If you don't come back saying how it's the best documentary ever, then.......then........something something Formula Done.

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  • TychoCelchuuuTychoCelchuuu ___________PIGEON _________San Diego, CA Registered User regular
    Spoilered some Moon discussion from before:
    Spoiler:

    I think I read somewhere that the audio at the end was something Jones (the director) wanted to leave out but the studio made him put it in.

  • DeaderinredDeaderinred Registered User regular
    edited April 2012
    it was an indie film, there was no studio.

    it had more to do with mute
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  • TubularLuggageTubularLuggage Registered User regular
    Considering how the film played out before that, I don't think the audio at the end of Moon really changes a whole lot, and I don't think that playing it or not playing it really matters. The themes it could possibly evoke are already brought up by that point. At most, it slightly shifts focus from one theme to another, though I think the main theme of
    Spoiler:
    is still central.

  • Linespider5Linespider5 I'll see you in 24 hours. Registered User regular
    Spoilered some Moon discussion from before:
    Spoiler:

    I think I read somewhere that the audio at the end was something Jones (the director) wanted to leave out but the studio made him put it in.

    I don't know. It's kind of important.
    Spoiler:

    It's a good subject to address, I just don't see the fallout or outrage the ending suggests actually happening.

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  • Harry DresdenHarry Dresden Registered User regular
    Spoilered some Moon discussion from before:
    Spoiler:

    I think I read somewhere that the audio at the end was something Jones (the director) wanted to leave out but the studio made him put it in.

    I don't know. It's kind of important.
    Spoiler:

    It's a good subject to address, I just don't see the fallout or outrage the ending suggests actually happening.
    Spoiler:

  • Linespider5Linespider5 I'll see you in 24 hours. Registered User regular
    Spoilered some Moon discussion from before:
    Spoiler:

    I think I read somewhere that the audio at the end was something Jones (the director) wanted to leave out but the studio made him put it in.

    I don't know. It's kind of important.
    Spoiler:

    It's a good subject to address, I just don't see the fallout or outrage the ending suggests actually happening.
    Spoiler:
    Spoiler:

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  • Harry DresdenHarry Dresden Registered User regular
    edited April 2012
    Spoilered some Moon discussion from before:
    Spoiler:

    I think I read somewhere that the audio at the end was something Jones (the director) wanted to leave out but the studio made him put it in.

    I don't know. It's kind of important.
    Spoiler:

    It's a good subject to address, I just don't see the fallout or outrage the ending suggests actually happening.
    Spoiler:
    Spoiler:
    Spoiler:

    Harry Dresden on
  • KetarKetar Duke of Weaseltown Like an agile peacock!Registered User regular
    Spoilered some Moon discussion from before:
    Spoiler:

    I think I read somewhere that the audio at the end was something Jones (the director) wanted to leave out but the studio made him put it in.

    I don't know. It's kind of important.
    Spoiler:

    It's a good subject to address, I just don't see the fallout or outrage the ending suggests actually happening.

    Uh,
    Spoiler:

  • Linespider5Linespider5 I'll see you in 24 hours. Registered User regular
    Spoilered some Moon discussion from before:
    Spoiler:

    I think I read somewhere that the audio at the end was something Jones (the director) wanted to leave out but the studio made him put it in.

    I don't know. It's kind of important.
    Spoiler:

    It's a good subject to address, I just don't see the fallout or outrage the ending suggests actually happening.
    Spoiler:
    Spoiler:
    Spoiler:

    I know Moon isn't an action movie.
    Spoiler:

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  • -SPI--SPI- Registered User regular
    Malkor wrote: »
    The alien/robot/things from Battleship look like the most generic beings of that type imaginable. Also? I don't remember there being aliens in my version of Battleship, but maybe I was just doing it wrong.

    There wasn't. The original games were battles between navy fleets (and submarines), that's why adding aliens to the film is so ridiculous. Okay, more ridiculous then it already is.

    Right. Is there even some sort of tie-in anymore? Or is it just the name and a freed-up "IP" with Hasbro?
    I saw a scene from it on tv the other night where they had to figure out some fancy radar setup using tsunami warning detectors and technobabble because they couldn't get close enough to the aliens to see them visually or with traditional radar without getting killed. So they have to fight them without being able to see where they are except with this huge radar board screen.

    It was the most stupid forced way to make the film relate to the boardgame, but they actually do attempt to tie it in.

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  • Kipling217Kipling217 Registered User regular
    Kipling217 wrote: »
    That's turned me off on the entire thing. It looked so generic. I have seen that fucking movie so many times. Independence Day, Battle:LA and the Bayformers trilogy. Big budget, Snappy one liners and huge explosions. At least Iron Sky had heart.

    Whedon can make films with heart. Serenity was amazing.

    Was referring to Battleship the generic alien invasion movie, only Linespider5 posted before me. But that was a fairly generic action sequence. Like something from Alias 10 years ago.

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  • HounHoun Registered User regular
    Kipling217 wrote: »
    Kipling217 wrote: »
    That's turned me off on the entire thing. It looked so generic. I have seen that fucking movie so many times. Independence Day, Battle:LA and the Bayformers trilogy. Big budget, Snappy one liners and huge explosions. At least Iron Sky had heart.

    Whedon can make films with heart. Serenity was amazing.

    Was referring to Battleship the generic alien invasion movie, only Linespider5 posted before me. But that was a fairly generic action sequence. Like something from Alias 10 years ago.

    Specifically, the opening scene of Alias.

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  • BuddiesBuddies Registered User regular
    Houn wrote: »
    Kipling217 wrote: »
    Kipling217 wrote: »
    That's turned me off on the entire thing. It looked so generic. I have seen that fucking movie so many times. Independence Day, Battle:LA and the Bayformers trilogy. Big budget, Snappy one liners and huge explosions. At least Iron Sky had heart.

    Whedon can make films with heart. Serenity was amazing.

    Was referring to Battleship the generic alien invasion movie, only Linespider5 posted before me. But that was a fairly generic action sequence. Like something from Alias 10 years ago.

    Specifically, the opening scene of Alias.

    Whatever it is, it made me not want to watch the film at all. Even if it was on TV, I'd feel no inclination to sit down and watch it. I don't understand what is driving the direction of some of these Marvel/DC Movies. Like, why was X-Men 2 and Spiderman 2 so much better than 1 and 3 of their series? Why did Ironman turn out to be so much better than I thought it would be? Why did I think Thor was boring as shit and The Hulk was alright. Why couldn't X-Men First Class had just been "Magneto" instead, and been entirely his decent from a smart respected man to super villain? I haven't even seen Captain America because of how I felt Thor was a waste of my money. I love Comic Books, Super Heroes and all this stuff. I still watch the Cartoons, and rent the damn animated movies that come out. I'm trying really hard to just be a kid and enjoy seeing my favorite superheroes on the big screen. But then I watch that clip and I say "Nah, I think I'll pass."

    I went to go see Hunger Games a couple weeks ago. I was really fiending to go see a movie in the theatres. I still am, because that did not satisfy. Looking forward to Prometheus. I want an adventure. I want to get lost in the movie, and come out feeling I spent an entire day on another planet somewhere. I want to be enthralled, and believe in the world they created.

  • HounHoun Registered User regular
    A. I had no idea that people thought X2 was better than X1. Agreed on Spiderman 2, though.
    B. Iron Man is great because Robert Downey Jr.
    C. Thor was pretty dull in many parts, and suffered pacing issues. Ed Norton's Hulk is a super fun movie, though, so why wouldn't you like it? Also, <3 Tim Roth.
    D. You should see Cap. IMO, it was much better than Thor, minus the contrived but necessary plot advancements at the end.

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  • Robos A Go GoRobos A Go Go Registered User regular
    An Alias style opening with disguises and subterfuge would actually have been better. At least then we'd be seeing her do something that the other characters couldn't, whereas it's hard to see busting up generic goons as impressive when everyone else is knocking dragons out of the sky.

  • gjaustingjaustin Registered User regular
    An Alias style opening with disguises and subterfuge would actually have been better. At least then we'd be seeing her do something that the other characters couldn't, whereas it's hard to see busting up generic goons as impressive when everyone else is knocking dragons out of the sky.

    Every time I see the trailer, I go:

    "So you have a group with a genius in a man-shaped flying tank, a super-soldier, a rage monster, and a Norse god. And then a dude with a bow and a lady with a gun?"
    Buddies wrote: »
    I went to go see Hunger Games a couple weeks ago. I was really fiending to go see a movie in the theatres. I still am, because that did not satisfy. Looking forward to Prometheus. I want an adventure. I want to get lost in the movie, and come out feeling I spent an entire day on another planet somewhere. I want to be enthralled, and believe in the world they created.

    I am also really, really looking forward to Prometheus. After playing Dead Space, sci-fi horror became my favorite genre. I absolutely loved Pandorum.

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  • Linespider5Linespider5 I'll see you in 24 hours. Registered User regular
    The Third Movie in a franchise almost always tends to be a little bloated, and tends to coast on the past glories of parts 1 and 2 rather than justify itself.

    The third part of a trilogy is usually turducken.

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  • So It GoesSo It Goes Do I have something on my face?Registered User regular
    Last Crusade is the best turducken

    NOPE.
  • AtomikaAtomika Hypercritical Queen Bitch of Cinema Registered User regular
    So It Goes wrote: »
    Last Crusade is the best turducken

    Yeah, it's funny how much shit that movie used to get.

    Until Crystal Skull came out.


    Now it's basically The Godfather pt II of awesome sequels. Last Crusade has it's flaws, but it never fails to entertain. It's a much better film than people (used to) give it credit for.

  • HounHoun Registered User regular
    ...growing up, Last Crusade was always my favorite. :oops:

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  • ThirithThirith Registered User regular
    Last Crusade is fun, and miles better than Temple of Doom - but it does feel like a retread of Raiders... except for Henry Jones Sr., and that's a big "except".

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  • valhalla130valhalla130 Od's blood Sailing a longshipRegistered User regular
    Last Crusade was always the best IMO and in the opinion of my movie-lovin' best friend.

  • EuphoriacEuphoriac Registered User regular
    I was always a Temple of Doom fan, but watching it as an adult after a good 5 year gap really soured me on it. Now i'm all about 1 and 3. But not 4. nononononoooooo...

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  • AtomikaAtomika Hypercritical Queen Bitch of Cinema Registered User regular
    Thirith wrote: »
    Last Crusade is fun, and miles better than Temple of Doom - but it does feel like a retread of Raiders... except for Henry Jones Sr., and that's a big "except".

    I've never understood the disfavor for Temple of Doom.

    It's a good movie. Solid script, nice chemistry, a welcome change of scenery for the franchise . . . .

    Good stuff.

  • ThirithThirith Registered User regular
    I love the sequence at Club Obi-Wan, but after that it goes downhill IMO. The India bits are painfully clichéd, without doing anything interesting or fun with the clichés; Willie is grating for the most part; the humour and the grisly bits all feel like a 16-year old's Indiana Jones fanfic.

    Last Crusade is the funniest of the films, but I find some of its humour... smug, for want of a better world. It seemed to think it was funnier than it actually was, if that makes any sense.

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  • ElJeffeElJeffe Super Moderator, Moderator, ClubPA mod
    gjaustin wrote: »
    An Alias style opening with disguises and subterfuge would actually have been better. At least then we'd be seeing her do something that the other characters couldn't, whereas it's hard to see busting up generic goons as impressive when everyone else is knocking dragons out of the sky.

    Every time I see the trailer, I go:

    "So you have a group with a genius in a man-shaped flying tank, a super-soldier, a rage monster, and a Norse god. And then a dude with a bow and a lady with a gun?"

    I know dick about the Avengers as a property, but off the top of my head, the dude with the bow and the chick with the gun could be useful as spies or assassins. None of the other guys are especially good at "covert". Anyway, this same complaint could be leveled at any superhero team. X-Men, Justice League, whatever - you have the heavy hitters and the also-rans.

    That said, I am baffled by the degree to which a disembodied 40-second clip of a girl doing martial arts says much of anything about anything. People who were otherwise interested in the flick writing it off based on that strike me as exceptionally silly.

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  • ShawnaseeShawnasee Registered User regular
    Thirith wrote: »
    Last Crusade is fun, and miles better than Temple of Doom - but it does feel like a retread of Raiders... except for Henry Jones Sr., and that's a big "except".

    I've never understood the disfavor for Temple of Doom.

    It's a good movie. Solid script, nice chemistry, a welcome change of scenery for the franchise . . . .

    Good stuff.

    So you like Temple of Doom but hate Hunger Games? I've never felt the need to insert this into any internet/text conversation but I really think "smh" fits well in this scenario...

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  • Harry DresdenHarry Dresden Registered User regular
    Buddies wrote: »
    Why couldn't X-Men First Class had just been "Magneto" instead, and been entirely his decent from a smart respected man to super villain?

    That was what the project was initially about. Only David Goyer was going to direct and write it. :shock:

  • KalTorakKalTorak Registered User regular
    I thought the Trailers thread was the "judging entire movies based on 30 seconds of footage" thread.
    Buddies wrote: »
    Why couldn't X-Men First Class had just been "Magneto" instead, and been entirely his decent from a smart respected man to super villain?

    That was what the project was initially about. Only David Goyer was going to direct and write it. :shock:

    Sigh... the Magneto/Xavier parts of First Class do make me a bit sad for what could have been.

  • gjaustingjaustin Registered User regular
    Last Crusade was always the best IMO and in the opinion of my movie-lovin' best friend.
    It is the best, thanks to Sean Connery.
    ElJeffe wrote: »
    gjaustin wrote: »
    Every time I see the trailer, I go:

    "So you have a group with a genius in a man-shaped flying tank, a super-soldier, a rage monster, and a Norse god. And then a dude with a bow and a lady with a gun?"

    I know dick about the Avengers as a property, but off the top of my head, the dude with the bow and the chick with the gun could be useful as spies or assassins. None of the other guys are especially good at "covert". Anyway, this same complaint could be leveled at any superhero team. X-Men, Justice League, whatever - you have the heavy hitters and the also-rans.

    This explanation actually makes some sense, at least for Black Widow. Captain America could probably pull off stealthy, but doesn't have the training necessary to do it effectively.

    I wonder if those four characters are the only "super heroes" in this version of Marvel continuity, so they're filling the team out with whatever they have left.

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  • Robos A Go GoRobos A Go Go Registered User regular
    Assassination isn't really a superhero kind of thing.

    And while spies are useful, there isn't really room for spies in these films.

  • Harry DresdenHarry Dresden Registered User regular
    KalTorak wrote: »
    Sigh... the Magneto/Xavier parts of First Class do make me a bit sad for what could have been.

    You don't want an unrestrained Goyer. That way lies madness. It's how we ended up with Nightstalkers Blade: Trinity.

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