like all of wrex's dialogue is different if you destroyed the cure
with how shitty the ending is it can be kind of easy to forget how impressive everything else up to that point was
explain how
surkesh
On the shuttle ride over he doesn't even acknowledge the other party members like he does when you have the cure, he just rails against you for destroying the cure
in the next area he has an investigate tree and on several of the choices he twists the question around into something nasty to say to you, like
shepard: who told you about the females?
wrex: someone more trustworthy than you.
liara: you know, we used to all be friends.
wrex: I don't have anything against you, liara. Shepard's the one that stabbed my people in the back.
like all of wrex's dialogue is different if you destroyed the cure
with how shitty the ending is it can be kind of easy to forget how impressive everything else up to that point was
It gets even better.
He has different dialog for a long time if you apologize or don't on the shuttle ride over.
Do?
Attitude's roughly
"Shepard, you're my best friend, and you're doing me a favor. But HOLY SHIT that was a stupid dick move. You owe me one for that, all I'm saying. Still, glad to see you again."
The best bit is at the very end, where Shep can admit that Eve's death was her fault. He not only forgives her, but does his best to make her feel less shitty.
like all of wrex's dialogue is different if you destroyed the cure
with how shitty the ending is it can be kind of easy to forget how impressive everything else up to that point was
It gets even better.
He has different dialog for a long time if you apologize or don't on the shuttle ride over.
Do?
Attitude's roughly
"Shepard, you're my best friend, and you're doing me a favor. But HOLY SHIT that was a stupid dick move. You owe me one for that, all I'm saying. Still, glad to see you again."
The best bit is at the very end, where Shep can admit that Eve's death was her fault. He not only forgives her, but does his best to make her feel less shitty.
like all of wrex's dialogue is different if you destroyed the cure
with how shitty the ending is it can be kind of easy to forget how impressive everything else up to that point was
It gets even better.
He has different dialog for a long time if you apologize or don't on the shuttle ride over.
Do?
Attitude's roughly
"Shepard, you're my best friend, and you're doing me a favor. But HOLY SHIT that was a stupid dick move. You owe me one for that, all I'm saying. Still, glad to see you again."
The best bit is at the very end, where Shep can admit that Eve's death was her fault. He not only forgives her, but does his best to make her feel less shitty.
Don't?
He is pissed.
Oh my sweet God, is that true?
This game gives me the vapors
Then of course, there's what happens if you choose to
i want to know how it's different. since i will probably never see it.
Because i'm not a monster.
melding how do you respond to allegations that you are actually a frankenstein
Listen, i needed those body parts to fend off the living dead, not to stitch together to make an unholy abomination. Now if you need me, i will be looking for an non-abnormal brain.
like all of wrex's dialogue is different if you destroyed the cure
with how shitty the ending is it can be kind of easy to forget how impressive everything else up to that point was
It gets even better.
He has different dialog for a long time if you apologize or don't on the shuttle ride over.
Do?
Attitude's roughly
"Shepard, you're my best friend, and you're doing me a favor. But HOLY SHIT that was a stupid dick move. You owe me one for that, all I'm saying. Still, glad to see you again."
The best bit is at the very end, where Shep can admit that Eve's death was her fault. He not only forgives her, but does his best to make her feel less shitty.
Don't?
He is pissed.
Oh my sweet God, is that true?
This game gives me the vapors
Yes. I tested through the missions before the genophage cure one more or less on accident, and it's a dramatic difference.
Like the Mordin confrontation?
Go with apology, and he's not angry when he backs off, but he's a little paranoid just because, well, salarians are basically masters of stabbing you in the back. Still, he's willing to take your word and trust Mordin.
Not so happy if you didn't. Instead, he goes for "Right. I can trust him. LIKE I COULD TRUST YOU?"
i want to know how it's different. since i will probably never see it.
Because i'm not a monster.
melding how do you respond to allegations that you are actually a frankenstein
Listen, i needed those body parts to fend off the living dead, not to stitch together to make an unholy abomination. Now if you need me, i will be looking for an non-abnormal brain.
i want to know how it's different. since i will probably never see it.
Because i'm not a monster.
melding how do you respond to allegations that you are actually a frankenstein
Listen, i needed those body parts to fend off the living dead, not to stitch together to make an unholy abomination. Now if you need me, i will be looking for an non-abnormal brain.
like all of wrex's dialogue is different if you destroyed the cure
with how shitty the ending is it can be kind of easy to forget how impressive everything else up to that point was
It gets even better.
He has different dialog for a long time if you apologize or don't on the shuttle ride over.
Do?
Attitude's roughly
"Shepard, you're my best friend, and you're doing me a favor. But HOLY SHIT that was a stupid dick move. You owe me one for that, all I'm saying. Still, glad to see you again."
The best bit is at the very end, where Shep can admit that Eve's death was her fault. He not only forgives her, but does his best to make her feel less shitty.
Don't?
He is pissed.
Oh my sweet God, is that true?
This game gives me the vapors
Then of course, there's what happens if you choose to
sabotage the cure
The first time I heard about that was someone mentioning basically losing their shit because they felt absolutely awful about the confrontation with Wrex.
Which is exactly how you SHOULD feel. Sabotaging the cure is a seriously awful thing to do, and I really can't blame Wrex's character for being out for blood over it.
It's even worse for the fact that you can only make this happen by killing Mordin in cold blood.
Just... fuck. That game really punishes you for going the bad guy route.
i want to know how it's different. since i will probably never see it.
Because i'm not a monster.
melding how do you respond to allegations that you are actually a frankenstein
Listen, i needed those body parts to fend off the living dead, not to stitch together to make an unholy abomination. Now if you need me, i will be looking for an non-abnormal brain.
can you sabotage the cure if you reveal the dalatrass' plan immediately?
because I would like to do that to try and (fail to) regain wrex's loyalty, then sabotage it anyway
I was curious about that on my second playthrough, but no. You have to keep it to yourself until you're in the Shroud. Otherwise, the option to stop Mordin doesn't come up.
can you sabotage the cure if you reveal the dalatrass' plan immediately?
because I would like to do that to try and (fail to) regain wrex's loyalty, then sabotage it anyway
I was curious about that on my second playthrough, but no. You have to keep it to yourself until you're in the Shroud. Otherwise, the option to stop Mordin doesn't come up.
like all of wrex's dialogue is different if you destroyed the cure
with how shitty the ending is it can be kind of easy to forget how impressive everything else up to that point was
It gets even better.
He has different dialog for a long time if you apologize or don't on the shuttle ride over.
Do?
Attitude's roughly
"Shepard, you're my best friend, and you're doing me a favor. But HOLY SHIT that was a stupid dick move. You owe me one for that, all I'm saying. Still, glad to see you again."
The best bit is at the very end, where Shep can admit that Eve's death was her fault. He not only forgives her, but does his best to make her feel less shitty.
Don't?
He is pissed.
Oh my sweet God, is that true?
This game gives me the vapors
Then of course, there's what happens if you choose to
sabotage the cure
The first time I heard about that was someone mentioning basically losing their shit because they felt absolutely awful about the confrontation with Wrex.
Which is exactly how you SHOULD feel. Sabotaging the cure is a seriously awful thing to do, and I really can't blame Wrex's character for being out for blood over it.
It's even worse for the fact that you can only make this happen by killing Mordin in cold blood.
Just... fuck. That game really punishes you for going the bad guy route.
"bad guy route"
fuck you
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like all of wrex's dialogue is different if you destroyed the cure
with how shitty the ending is it can be kind of easy to forget how impressive everything else up to that point was
It gets even better.
He has different dialog for a long time if you apologize or don't on the shuttle ride over.
Do?
Attitude's roughly
"Shepard, you're my best friend, and you're doing me a favor. But HOLY SHIT that was a stupid dick move. You owe me one for that, all I'm saying. Still, glad to see you again."
The best bit is at the very end, where Shep can admit that Eve's death was her fault. He not only forgives her, but does his best to make her feel less shitty.
Don't?
He is pissed.
Oh my sweet God, is that true?
This game gives me the vapors
Then of course, there's what happens if you choose to
sabotage the cure
The first time I heard about that was someone mentioning basically losing their shit because they felt absolutely awful about the confrontation with Wrex.
Which is exactly how you SHOULD feel. Sabotaging the cure is a seriously awful thing to do, and I really can't blame Wrex's character for being out for blood over it.
It's even worse for the fact that you can only make this happen by killing Mordin in cold blood.
Just... fuck. That game really punishes you for going the bad guy route.
Not evil.
Just ruthless and long term.
Krogan have absurd birthrates and a genetic affinity towards being, well, homicidal psychopaths. Left alone last time, they ripped the galaxy seven or eight new assholes
Wrex might be able to make a new Tuchanka. One that doesn't threaten other species existence (unless they start something, in which case he's going to build a throne with their skulls. Good guy, but again, Krogan.)
Or he could die. Or fail. Suddenly, you're neck deep in krogan who have a lot of scores to settle and nobody keeping them from the whole "Eat salarian eggs" plan.
And if Wrex and Eve are dead? You can convince Mordin of exactly that. Mordin thinks of the genophage as a necessary evil. If Wrex and Eve are alive, well, it's enough of a chance the whole thing is no longer necessary. Not a guarantee, but his conscience won't let him sit until there's a sure bet. If they aren't?
Then Wreave will probably try to fuck over the entire galaxy in a generation or three, and nothing's going to stop him short of total annihilation.
Show Mordin that, and he's more than willing to go along with sabotage.
like all of wrex's dialogue is different if you destroyed the cure
with how shitty the ending is it can be kind of easy to forget how impressive everything else up to that point was
It gets even better.
He has different dialog for a long time if you apologize or don't on the shuttle ride over.
Do?
Attitude's roughly
"Shepard, you're my best friend, and you're doing me a favor. But HOLY SHIT that was a stupid dick move. You owe me one for that, all I'm saying. Still, glad to see you again."
The best bit is at the very end, where Shep can admit that Eve's death was her fault. He not only forgives her, but does his best to make her feel less shitty.
Don't?
He is pissed.
Oh my sweet God, is that true?
This game gives me the vapors
Then of course, there's what happens if you choose to
sabotage the cure
The first time I heard about that was someone mentioning basically losing their shit because they felt absolutely awful about the confrontation with Wrex.
Which is exactly how you SHOULD feel. Sabotaging the cure is a seriously awful thing to do, and I really can't blame Wrex's character for being out for blood over it.
It's even worse for the fact that you can only make this happen by killing Mordin in cold blood.
Just... fuck. That game really punishes you for going the bad guy route.
sabotaging the cure isn't objectively the wrong thing to do and there are many very good arguments in favor of doing so
most of which mordin himself made back in 2
it's evil but you can very much make the case that it's a necessary evil
i want to know how it's different. since i will probably never see it.
Because i'm not a monster.
melding how do you respond to allegations that you are actually a frankenstein
Listen, i needed those body parts to fend off the living dead, not to stitch together to make an unholy abomination. Now if you need me, i will be looking for an non-abnormal brain.
"And the most damning thing of all is... I think I can live with it."
Oh yeah.
'course, Shepard can go a few steps further. Or a few dozen.
Murdering a couple bastards and faking evidence you're pretty sure exists somewhere isn't good, but comparing it to genocide and murdering two of your closest friends, it's small time.
like all of wrex's dialogue is different if you destroyed the cure
with how shitty the ending is it can be kind of easy to forget how impressive everything else up to that point was
It gets even better.
He has different dialog for a long time if you apologize or don't on the shuttle ride over.
Do?
Attitude's roughly
"Shepard, you're my best friend, and you're doing me a favor. But HOLY SHIT that was a stupid dick move. You owe me one for that, all I'm saying. Still, glad to see you again."
The best bit is at the very end, where Shep can admit that Eve's death was her fault. He not only forgives her, but does his best to make her feel less shitty.
Don't?
He is pissed.
Oh my sweet God, is that true?
This game gives me the vapors
Then of course, there's what happens if you choose to
sabotage the cure
The first time I heard about that was someone mentioning basically losing their shit because they felt absolutely awful about the confrontation with Wrex.
Which is exactly how you SHOULD feel. Sabotaging the cure is a seriously awful thing to do, and I really can't blame Wrex's character for being out for blood over it.
It's even worse for the fact that you can only make this happen by killing Mordin in cold blood.
Just... fuck. That game really punishes you for going the bad guy route.
Not evil.
Just ruthless and long term.
Krogan have absurd birthrates and a genetic affinity towards being, well, homicidal psychopaths. Left alone last time, they ripped the galaxy seven or eight new assholes
Wrex might be able to make a new Tuchanka. One that doesn't threaten other species existence (unless they start something, in which case he's going to build a throne with their skulls. Good guy, but again, Krogan.)
Or he could die. Or fail. Suddenly, you're neck deep in krogan who have a lot of scores to settle and nobody keeping them from the whole "Eat salarian eggs" plan.
And if Wrex and Eve are dead? You can convince Mordin of exactly that. Mordin thinks of the genophage as a necessary evil. If Wrex and Eve are alive, well, it's enough of a chance the whole thing is no longer necessary. Not a guarantee, but his conscience won't let him sit until there's a sure bet. If they aren't?
Then Wreave will probably try to fuck over the entire galaxy in a generation or three, and nothing's going to stop him short of total annihilation.
Show Mordin that, and he's more than willing to go along with sabotage.
It's a short term, short sighted "solution" to enforce the status quo. Fuck the Salarians.
like all of wrex's dialogue is different if you destroyed the cure
with how shitty the ending is it can be kind of easy to forget how impressive everything else up to that point was
It gets even better.
He has different dialog for a long time if you apologize or don't on the shuttle ride over.
Do?
Attitude's roughly
"Shepard, you're my best friend, and you're doing me a favor. But HOLY SHIT that was a stupid dick move. You owe me one for that, all I'm saying. Still, glad to see you again."
The best bit is at the very end, where Shep can admit that Eve's death was her fault. He not only forgives her, but does his best to make her feel less shitty.
Don't?
He is pissed.
Oh my sweet God, is that true?
This game gives me the vapors
Then of course, there's what happens if you choose to
sabotage the cure
The first time I heard about that was someone mentioning basically losing their shit because they felt absolutely awful about the confrontation with Wrex.
Which is exactly how you SHOULD feel. Sabotaging the cure is a seriously awful thing to do, and I really can't blame Wrex's character for being out for blood over it.
It's even worse for the fact that you can only make this happen by killing Mordin in cold blood.
Just... fuck. That game really punishes you for going the bad guy route.
sabotaging the cure isn't objectively the wrong thing to do and there are many very good arguments in favor of doing so
most of which mordin himself made back in 2
it's evil but you can very much make the case that it's a necessary evil
Above are ME3 Tuchanka/Shroud spoilers, more below plus general Renegade musings:
The renegade attitude towards the genophage cure could easily be seen as less dickishly evil and more "sacrificing the few for the benefit of the many" depending on how much you trust the idea that the Krogan won't plunge the entire galaxy into a bloody, perhaps genocidal war of revenge once the Reapers are defeated.
I think that if Wrex dies in ME1 or ME2, Wreav is in charge of Team Krogan and pretty much says this is what will happen.
like all of wrex's dialogue is different if you destroyed the cure
with how shitty the ending is it can be kind of easy to forget how impressive everything else up to that point was
It gets even better.
He has different dialog for a long time if you apologize or don't on the shuttle ride over.
Do?
Attitude's roughly
"Shepard, you're my best friend, and you're doing me a favor. But HOLY SHIT that was a stupid dick move. You owe me one for that, all I'm saying. Still, glad to see you again."
The best bit is at the very end, where Shep can admit that Eve's death was her fault. He not only forgives her, but does his best to make her feel less shitty.
Don't?
He is pissed.
Oh my sweet God, is that true?
This game gives me the vapors
Then of course, there's what happens if you choose to
sabotage the cure
The first time I heard about that was someone mentioning basically losing their shit because they felt absolutely awful about the confrontation with Wrex.
Which is exactly how you SHOULD feel. Sabotaging the cure is a seriously awful thing to do, and I really can't blame Wrex's character for being out for blood over it.
It's even worse for the fact that you can only make this happen by killing Mordin in cold blood.
Just... fuck. That game really punishes you for going the bad guy route.
sabotaging the cure isn't objectively the wrong thing to do and there are many very good arguments in favor of doing so
most of which mordin himself made back in 2
it's evil but you can very much make the case that it's a necessary evil
Above are ME3 Tuchanka/Shroud spoilers, more below plus general Renegade musings:
The renegade attitude towards the genophage cure could easily be seen as less dickishly evil and more "sacrificing the few for the benefit of the many" depending on how much you trust the idea that the Krogan won't plunge the entire galaxy into a bloody, perhaps genocidal war of revenge once the Reapers are defeated.
I think that if Wrex dies in ME1 or ME2, Wreav is in charge of Team Krogan and pretty much says this is what will happen.
I think even if you have Wrex you also need Eve to seal the deal
I mean I'm on surkesh right now and wrex is chilling out, taunting the salarians about how they better watch their backs after the genophage is cured, there's a lot of krogan with long memories that aren't as restrained as he is
like all of wrex's dialogue is different if you destroyed the cure
with how shitty the ending is it can be kind of easy to forget how impressive everything else up to that point was
It gets even better.
He has different dialog for a long time if you apologize or don't on the shuttle ride over.
Do?
Attitude's roughly
"Shepard, you're my best friend, and you're doing me a favor. But HOLY SHIT that was a stupid dick move. You owe me one for that, all I'm saying. Still, glad to see you again."
The best bit is at the very end, where Shep can admit that Eve's death was her fault. He not only forgives her, but does his best to make her feel less shitty.
Don't?
He is pissed.
Oh my sweet God, is that true?
This game gives me the vapors
Then of course, there's what happens if you choose to
sabotage the cure
The first time I heard about that was someone mentioning basically losing their shit because they felt absolutely awful about the confrontation with Wrex.
Which is exactly how you SHOULD feel. Sabotaging the cure is a seriously awful thing to do, and I really can't blame Wrex's character for being out for blood over it.
It's even worse for the fact that you can only make this happen by killing Mordin in cold blood.
Just... fuck. That game really punishes you for going the bad guy route.
sabotaging the cure isn't objectively the wrong thing to do and there are many very good arguments in favor of doing so
most of which mordin himself made back in 2
it's evil but you can very much make the case that it's a necessary evil
Above are ME3 Tuchanka/Shroud spoilers, more below plus general Renegade musings:
The renegade attitude towards the genophage cure could easily be seen as less dickishly evil and more "sacrificing the few for the benefit of the many" depending on how much you trust the idea that the Krogan won't plunge the entire galaxy into a bloody, perhaps genocidal war of revenge once the Reapers are defeated.
I think that if Wrex dies in ME1 or ME2, Wreav is in charge of Team Krogan and pretty much says this is what will happen.
I think even if you have Wrex you also need Eve to seal the deal
I mean I'm on surkesh right now and wrex is chilling out, taunting the salarians about how they better watch their backs after the genophage is cured, there's a lot of krogan with long memories that aren't as restrained as he is
And even with Wrex AND Eve I want Mordin on board confirming that the two of them have a fair shot at shaping the krogan into something respectable
padok's just a weird perv I ain't listenin' to him
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melding how do you respond to allegations that you are actually a frankenstein
I think I would cry
damn, that's cold.
She's a mad scientist?
Well, that I can believe.
It gets even better.
Do?
Attitude's roughly
"Shepard, you're my best friend, and you're doing me a favor. But HOLY SHIT that was a stupid dick move. You owe me one for that, all I'm saying. Still, glad to see you again."
The best bit is at the very end, where Shep can admit that Eve's death was her fault. He not only forgives her, but does his best to make her feel less shitty.
Don't?
He is pissed.
Why I fear the ocean.
Oh my sweet God, is that true?
This game gives me the vapors
Then of course, there's what happens if you choose to
We'll have to play again sometime soon it was a lot of fun.
Listen, i needed those body parts to fend off the living dead, not to stitch together to make an unholy abomination. Now if you need me, i will be looking for an non-abnormal brain.
BUT I'VE GOT TWO BAIDOL!!
Like the Mordin confrontation?
Go with apology, and he's not angry when he backs off, but he's a little paranoid just because, well, salarians are basically masters of stabbing you in the back. Still, he's willing to take your word and trust Mordin.
Not so happy if you didn't. Instead, he goes for "Right. I can trust him. LIKE I COULD TRUST YOU?"
Why I fear the ocean.
By the way, I need videos of the Wrex spoilers. Please!
I'm not so sure anymore
Anyway, let me know what I should choose re: the assignment in ME2.
alt responce:
because I would like to do that to try and (fail to) regain wrex's loyalty, then sabotage it anyway
http://www.audioentropy.com/
This is nominally my renegade (note: I am the worst renegade ever) but I decided to use the Charm option.
me3:
Edit: christ these news emoticons are terrible
Which is exactly how you SHOULD feel. Sabotaging the cure is a seriously awful thing to do, and I really can't blame Wrex's character for being out for blood over it.
It's even worse for the fact that you can only make this happen by killing Mordin in cold blood.
Just... fuck. That game really punishes you for going the bad guy route.
aw man
http://www.audioentropy.com/
It's a horrible, horrible moment, but it's basically a much more emotionally intense moment of this from Star Trek DS9.
The only difference is, YOU are pulling the trigger. Not someone else.
Even the most 'evil' thing Shepard does is still arguably justifiable.
Inter arma enim silent leges
fuck you
Just ruthless and long term.
Krogan have absurd birthrates and a genetic affinity towards being, well, homicidal psychopaths. Left alone last time, they ripped the galaxy seven or eight new assholes
Wrex might be able to make a new Tuchanka. One that doesn't threaten other species existence (unless they start something, in which case he's going to build a throne with their skulls. Good guy, but again, Krogan.)
Or he could die. Or fail. Suddenly, you're neck deep in krogan who have a lot of scores to settle and nobody keeping them from the whole "Eat salarian eggs" plan.
And if Wrex and Eve are dead? You can convince Mordin of exactly that. Mordin thinks of the genophage as a necessary evil. If Wrex and Eve are alive, well, it's enough of a chance the whole thing is no longer necessary. Not a guarantee, but his conscience won't let him sit until there's a sure bet. If they aren't?
Then Wreave will probably try to fuck over the entire galaxy in a generation or three, and nothing's going to stop him short of total annihilation.
Show Mordin that, and he's more than willing to go along with sabotage.
Why I fear the ocean.
most of which mordin himself made back in 2
it's evil but you can very much make the case that it's a necessary evil
http://www.audioentropy.com/
"And the most damning thing of all is... I think I can live with it."
I know I say this every time I see Edgar Winter
but goddamn is he weird-looking
Oh yeah.
'course, Shepard can go a few steps further. Or a few dozen.
Most renegade action in the game. Easily.
Why I fear the ocean.
like, lord of the sith evil
nah
http://www.audioentropy.com/
Above are ME3 Tuchanka/Shroud spoilers, more below plus general Renegade musings:
I think that if Wrex dies in ME1 or ME2, Wreav is in charge of Team Krogan and pretty much says this is what will happen.
like when (tuchonka spoilers)
you can make basically any of the big decisions for "paragon" or "renegade" reasons
I mean I'm on surkesh right now and wrex is chilling out, taunting the salarians about how they better watch their backs after the genophage is cured, there's a lot of krogan with long memories that aren't as restrained as he is
http://www.audioentropy.com/
C'mon Bioware, gimme Krogan Infiltrator!
padok's just a weird perv I ain't listenin' to him
http://www.audioentropy.com/