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  • chuckleberryfinnchuckleberryfinn Ireland Registered User regular
    815165 wrote: »
    I'm just going to burrow some banelings between my swarm dudes and the shit they're shooting at.

    Fuck you and your marines.

    F0cking Zerg, go make some lings and infestors and lose.

    No Protoss players were underpowered during this post.
  • 815165815165 Registered User regular
    Graviija wrote: »
    Wow, I didn't know HotS changed the ultralisk bonus damage to light (I realize this was announced at Blizzcon now). So that'll make them pretty useless against the stalker/colossus army in PvZ (and even less effective against immortals). Though I guess if you're going mass zerlings and the protoss responds with zealots, you'd do pretty well.

    I'm not surprised the replicator is gone. It was such a stupid idea...though I must admit I looked forward to replicating some tanks to hold 1/1/1s.

    To be fair ultras are already horrible against stalkers and immortals, so it wont make much of a difference.

  • DhalphirDhalphir don't you open that trapdoor you're a fool if you dareRegistered User regular
    I dunno, they'll have to make some pretty drastic changes to Zerg or Protoss for me to consider switching away from Terran.

    The only two decent matchups in this entire game are TvT and TvZ. Maybe ZvZ, but I haven't played it much. the rest are either boring because they're always the same (PvZ, PvT) or coinflippy (PvP).

  • TheBogTheBog Registered User regular
    Makes them even worse against marauders. Pretty sure a medivac'd marauder will be able to stand there taking unlimited amounts of ultra hits to the face.

    Point is, zerg doesn't NEED more anti-bio. Ultras were zerg's one and only anti-armor unit, per se.

  • 815165815165 Registered User regular
    TheBog wrote: »
    Makes them even worse against marauders. Pretty sure a medivac'd marauder will be able to stand there taking unlimited amounts of ultra hits to the face..

    Will be?

  • VariableVariable Mouth Congress Stroke Me Lady FameRegistered User regular
    Yilias wrote: »
    Variable wrote: »
    astonishing! that they would look to keep fans interest by making announcements at their once a year show. whatever were they thinking?!?!?!


    I really don't feel comfortable in tvt doing anything but mech, I am just so comfortable with the opening I use that going another direction leaves me feeling vulnerable. some maps it's just so damn hard though.

    I feel the same way about FE into Marine/Tank, I'd be so lost trying to 1-1-1 into Mech and balance gas income.

    perhaps we can leverage this situation into something beneficial for both of us

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  • VariableVariable Mouth Congress Stroke Me Lady FameRegistered User regular
    Joe K wrote: »
    Variable wrote: »
    astonishing! that they would look to keep fans interest by making announcements at their once a year show. whatever were they thinking?!?!?!

    Probably that giving once a year updates wasn't enough, so they'll double the fictional announcements!

    so they can either tell us nothing or be completely honest with the fact that it's developmental and can be changed but hey here's what we're working on

    I don't understand what the issue is with what they did. it's not fictional, they didn't lie or mislead.

    I like getting some kind of update and something to talk about

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  • chuckleberryfinnchuckleberryfinn Ireland Registered User regular
    Dhalphir wrote: »
    I dunno, they'll have to make some pretty drastic changes to Zerg or Protoss for me to consider switching away from Terran.

    The only two decent matchups in this entire game are TvT and TvZ. Maybe ZvZ, but I haven't played it much. the rest are either boring because they're always the same (PvZ, PvT) or coinflippy (PvP).

    Yes, TvP boring...you should explain your tvp build for the laugh though...

    No Protoss players were underpowered during this post.
  • DhalphirDhalphir don't you open that trapdoor you're a fool if you dareRegistered User regular
    edited April 2012
    gasless expand
    lots of upgrades
    drop a lot

    Dhalphir on
  • DhalphirDhalphir don't you open that trapdoor you're a fool if you dareRegistered User regular
    Anyone else notice the fact that we've gone from having no active laddering Masters Terrans to having three, in the space of about two weeks?

  • VariableVariable Mouth Congress Stroke Me Lady FameRegistered User regular
    I did

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  • KambingKambing Registered User regular
    Dhalphir wrote: »
    Anyone else notice the fact that we've gone from having no active laddering Masters Terrans to having three, in the space of about two weeks?

    Roaches just come out of the woodwork, don't they. ^_^

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  • chuckleberryfinnchuckleberryfinn Ireland Registered User regular
    Dhalphir wrote: »
    gasless expand
    lots of upgrades
    drop a lot

    I still prefer conc shell expand. >.>

    No Protoss players were underpowered during this post.
  • theSquidtheSquid Sydney, AustraliaRegistered User regular
    in this thread, dhal theorycrafts better than blizzards qa department can test

    fucking idiots trying new things what do they know

  • DhalphirDhalphir don't you open that trapdoor you're a fool if you dareRegistered User regular
    Dhalphir wrote: »
    gasless expand
    lots of upgrades
    drop a lot

    I still prefer conc shell expand. >.>

    its okay

    but it falls too far behind a 1gate FE and those builds are pretty tight when it comes to defending gas bio expands with pressure

    so you end up with an army thats not really any stronger than a gasless expand, sacrifice economy to get it, and automatically lose against a void ray cheese to boot.

  • DhalphirDhalphir don't you open that trapdoor you're a fool if you dareRegistered User regular
    Kambing wrote: »
    Dhalphir wrote: »
    Anyone else notice the fact that we've gone from having no active laddering Masters Terrans to having three, in the space of about two weeks?

    Roaches just come out of the woodwork, don't they. ^_^

    look im not claiming responsibility for this or anything

    but basically its all thanks to me

  • 815165815165 Registered User regular
    haypro cant marry rihanna

    i am :(

  • ImpyrockerImpyrocker Registered User regular
    edited April 2012
    About the swarm host: wouldn't the "long range missile" for dealing with siege lines pretty much make the swarm host worthless?

    Yes, I realize this is a ridiculous amount of speculation... but I'm assuming that the long range missile is similar to the Tomahawk Launcher from C&C: Generals, a very long range unit that doesn't do all that much damage in a straight up fight, but does force an engagement. If it was this, it would completely counter the swarm host.

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  • VariableVariable Mouth Congress Stroke Me Lady FameRegistered User regular
    I just had a falling off period

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  • DhalphirDhalphir don't you open that trapdoor you're a fool if you dareRegistered User regular
    Variable wrote: »
    I just had a falling off period

    oh i was referring to you as inactive

    not non-masters

    you were always masters in my heart
    <3

  • YiliasYilias Registered User regular
    And now Vari is off his period.

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  • TheBogTheBog Registered User regular
    Swarm hosts attack from way out of sight range. Terran doesn't know where they're burrowed, exactly. Though I imagine it's easy to guess.

  • VariableVariable Mouth Congress Stroke Me Lady FameRegistered User regular
    ah I got ya

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  • DhalphirDhalphir don't you open that trapdoor you're a fool if you dareRegistered User regular
    Yilias wrote: »
    And now Vari is off his period.

    hahahahhahahahaahah nice one

  • VariableVariable Mouth Congress Stroke Me Lady FameRegistered User regular
    maybe that's what it was

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  • ImpyrockerImpyrocker Registered User regular
    TheBog wrote: »
    Swarm hosts attack from way out of sight range. Terran doesn't know where they're burrowed, exactly. Though I imagine it's easy to guess.

    Swarm hosts seem to start attacking from about 13-14 range, judging from the speed at which the guys moved, and the time tanks fire. Assuming it's 14, so that the terran can't just scan and kill them with tanks, and since the missile which is used to break siege lines will probably have ~15 range, you could scan and snipe them.

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  • DhalphirDhalphir don't you open that trapdoor you're a fool if you dareRegistered User regular
    thats a lot of ifs

  • 815165815165 Registered User regular
    haypro can't marry chance the esports dog

    i am :(

  • RedOneRedOne Registered User regular
    i get the feeling, after watching the various interviews of stephano, that he's a total playaaaaa

    did no one catch the subtle stroking he did of prosser's back? if she werent married, stephano would tap dat

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  • ImpyrockerImpyrocker Registered User regular
    Dhalphir wrote: »
    thats a lot of ifs

    Yep. Honestly, doing any kind of speculating is useless, but I figured I'd add my views on the swarm host discussion, and I think they're going to be kinda useless one way or another.

    On another note: how do other protosses feel about mass air builds in pvz? The few times I've tried it, its been a pretty easy win as long as I can hold off the mass roach push and secure a third, because then I can get a mothership and carriers, and start recall harassing, which is one of the best things in this game, along with multiple pheonix hit squads.

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  • chuckleberryfinnchuckleberryfinn Ireland Registered User regular
    edited April 2012
    theSquid wrote: »
    in this thread, dhal theorycrafts better than blizzards qa department can test

    fucking idiots trying new things what do they know

    Your hat looks f0cking stupid.

    (and conc shell expand isn't new)

    chuckleberryfinn on
    No Protoss players were underpowered during this post.
  • KambingKambing Registered User regular
    You can try out swarm hosts on the Hots custom maps. They end up being an interesting alternative to mineral dumping with lings when you go infestors. A swarm host/infestor siege line is pretty gross.

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  • ImpyrockerImpyrocker Registered User regular
    Swarm hosts should shoot banelings

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  • DhalphirDhalphir don't you open that trapdoor you're a fool if you dareRegistered User regular
    Impyrocker wrote: »
    Dhalphir wrote: »
    thats a lot of ifs

    Yep. Honestly, doing any kind of speculating is useless, but I figured I'd add my views on the swarm host discussion, and I think they're going to be kinda useless one way or another.

    On another note: how do other protosses feel about mass air builds in pvz? The few times I've tried it, its been a pretty easy win as long as I can hold off the mass roach push and secure a third, because then I can get a mothership and carriers, and start recall harassing, which is one of the best things in this game, along with multiple pheonix hit squads.

    Thats the hard part.

  • ImpyrockerImpyrocker Registered User regular
    Dhalphir wrote: »
    Impyrocker wrote: »
    Dhalphir wrote: »
    thats a lot of ifs

    Yep. Honestly, doing any kind of speculating is useless, but I figured I'd add my views on the swarm host discussion, and I think they're going to be kinda useless one way or another.

    On another note: how do other protosses feel about mass air builds in pvz? The few times I've tried it, its been a pretty easy win as long as I can hold off the mass roach push and secure a third, because then I can get a mothership and carriers, and start recall harassing, which is one of the best things in this game, along with multiple pheonix hit squads.

    Thats the hard part.

    Yeah, striking the balance between sentries and void rays is quite tough.
    Maps this seems to work well on: Shakuras, tal'darim
    Maps it does not work on: Cloud Kingdom(not sure why, just never had success here), metalopolis

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  • VariableVariable Mouth Congress Stroke Me Lady FameRegistered User regular
    RedOne wrote: »
    i get the feeling, after watching the various interviews of stephano, that he's a total playaaaaa

    did no one catch the subtle stroking he did of prosser's back? if she werent married, stephano would tap dat

    that's all I was thinking

    he wants it

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  • DhalphirDhalphir don't you open that trapdoor you're a fool if you dareRegistered User regular
    edited April 2012
    thats a lot of hair

    Dhalphir on
  • RedOneRedOne Registered User regular
    theres a picture of stephano laying on a bed with mia rose, a former pornstar that plays a lot of LoL

    pretty sure stephano nailed that

    goddamn is there anything he CANT do

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  • YiliasYilias Registered User regular
    Pretty sure a lot of people have nailed her. She's a pornstar.

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