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Community: Season 4 Premiere February 7, Old Timeslot

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  • Captain TragedyCaptain Tragedy Registered User regular
    edited April 2012
    Alison Brie has a band now. The other members are Cyrina Fiallo (who played the friend of Britta's "lesbian" friend in "Early 21st Century Romanticism") and Julianna Guill (who played the head cheerleader in "Fistful of Paintballs", and who you shouldn't Google Image Search at work).

    The link has a brief video clip of them covering Childish Gambino.

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  • The_TuninatorThe_Tuninator Registered User regular
    There's now another (older) angry Chevy voicemail out there. I'm not going to link to it, but I'm mentioning it because it's from March 2011, and it's Chevy making exactly the same complaints as the most recent interview/situation - the show is too much of a mediocre sitcom, it's not his kind of comedy, all of his stuff (which is what the people want and what is actually funny) is being edited out to focus on shit people don't care about, like story/plot and Jeff/Britta's relationship, etc. and he even makes a similar "if the show comes back, I won't be there" statement.

    The point being, if you're worried that this new incident was some sort of tipping point, no, this has been going on since at least before S3, and yet, Chevy came back.

    If people didn't think that Chevy has no idea what the fuck he's talking about before this voicemail, they sure as hell should now.

    The man decries Community's strongest feature, its character development, as completely pointless. Like, seriously?

    What a jackass.

  • AManFromEarthAManFromEarth Let's get to twerk! The King in the SwampRegistered User regular
    There's now another (older) angry Chevy voicemail out there. I'm not going to link to it, but I'm mentioning it because it's from March 2011, and it's Chevy making exactly the same complaints as the most recent interview/situation - the show is too much of a mediocre sitcom, it's not his kind of comedy, all of his stuff (which is what the people want and what is actually funny) is being edited out to focus on shit people don't care about, like story/plot and Jeff/Britta's relationship, etc. and he even makes a similar "if the show comes back, I won't be there" statement.

    The point being, if you're worried that this new incident was some sort of tipping point, no, this has been going on since at least before S3, and yet, Chevy came back.

    If people didn't think that Chevy has no idea what the fuck he's talking about before this voicemail, they sure as hell should now.

    The man decries Community's strongest feature, its character development, as completely pointless. Like, seriously?

    What a jackass.

    So how'd this voice mail get out?

    I have a guess.

    But, let's not get bogged down in this again, who gives a shit about their personal lives so long as the show keeps chugging along?

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  • Kipling217Kipling217 Registered User regular
    Here is a little article on Gawker about why Community is the most popular show on the internet:

    gawker.com/5900835/why-community-is-the-most-popular-show-on-the-internet

    Interesting, it sums up a lot of the reasons why I like Community.

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  • Captain TragedyCaptain Tragedy Registered User regular
    edited April 2012
    As mentioned in the article: it's the last day of Hulu's Best in Show. Community and Walking Dead have pretty much been switching between being lead the entire week, so go vote if you haven't.

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  • KalTorakKalTorak Registered User regular
    Kipling's article also informed me that Community won TV Guide's Fan Favorite Comedy and Ensemble (didn't they win something from TV guide last year as well?), so yay!

  • LuxLux Registered User regular
    As mentioned in the article: it's the last day of Hulu's Best in Show. Community and Walking Dead have pretty much been switching between being lead the entire week, so go vote if you haven't.

    Community wins!

    This was the same poll where, a couple years ago, they were winning by like 15% but then got eliminated because they had a TV critic judge curating the whole thing and his vote awards 20%, right?

  • JoshmviiJoshmvii Registered User regular
    People always talk about how shows like Community are popular critically but wonder why they don't get the ratings of something like The Big Bang Theory. It's not like this is a new thing. It's the same reason Arrested Development didn't last, despite it being one of the most fantastic comedies to ever grace television. The problem is, and it sounds arrogant but is simply true, most people are not that bright. It's fine, not everybody is, but shows like AD and Community are made by people who are willing to make references and put in jokes that some people simply won't get. Pop culture stuff, as well as just jokes that are basically only for a niche of people. The creators of these shows care more about making something for people like them than pandering to the target demo to get syndicated eventually.

  • Captain TragedyCaptain Tragedy Registered User regular
    Lux wrote: »
    As mentioned in the article: it's the last day of Hulu's Best in Show. Community and Walking Dead have pretty much been switching between being lead the entire week, so go vote if you haven't.

    Community wins!

    This was the same poll where, a couple years ago, they were winning by like 15% but then got eliminated because they had a TV critic judge curating the whole thing and his vote awards 20%, right?

    The 1st year, they gave Ken Tucker a ridiculous 25% weight to his vote, and it pretty much became "Ken Tucker's Best in Show". Community lost because his vote overturned something like a 20% lead over The Simpsons.

    The 2nd year, it was Alan Sepinwall, and he got a 5% weight, which only ended up changing one match-up in popular vote, if I remember correctly.

    This year, Alan Sepinwall's position was just "ceremonial", and he just indicated which he picked, with no weight to his vote.

  • NappuccinoNappuccino Registered User regular
    KalTorak wrote: »

    reminds me of:

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  • SchrodingerSchrodinger Registered User regular
    Joshmvii wrote: »
    The problem is, and it sounds arrogant but is simply true, most people are not that bright.

    This is an incredibly goosey criticism. Community isn't for everyone. That doesn't make them stupid for not liking it. You don't need a high IQ to enjoy Community. If someone doesn't enjoy the pillow fort episode, it's not because they were too stupid to understand the concept of pillow fighting. It simply isn't their cup of tea. And that's fine.

    Now, you may have a point that Community relies on a lot of pop culture references, and AD has a lot of internal references. But that's not a matter of intelligence. That's a matter of most people being too busy to care.

  • initiatefailureinitiatefailure Registered User regular
    first off, no one doesn't enjoy the pillow fort episode.

    that's all.

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  • Captain TragedyCaptain Tragedy Registered User regular
    edited April 2012
    Let's pretend this post right here signifies several pages worth of derailing "Community vs BBT" posts with everybody restating exactly the same things on both sides that come up every time BBT is mentioned.

    Please? Pretty please? Especially since there's a new episode on tonight that I'd like to read posts about that will otherwise be smothered by this.

    It's the equivalent of the "sex and nudity" posts in The Game of Thrones thread. They just go round and round restating the same things over and over in increasingly angry fashion and squash discussion about anything else.

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  • DisrupterDisrupter Registered User regular
    For some reason, as much as I love Gillian Jacobs, Donald Glover and Joel Mchale. I really dislike Danny Pudi and Allison Brie in everything they do outside of community. Like any time I see Danny Pudi in something outside of community, even if that something is good, even if his role in that something is good, I kind of want to punch him in the face. Maybe he just has a punchable face?

    And Allison Brie is probably just an unfortunately culture backlash. She gets so much "love" from the internet that I cant help but dislike her.

    But yeah, any short video outside of community, or cast apparence on the soup or something else, I dislike these two.

    I wish I wasn't this way, but I am. Meanwhile I'll eat up any Mchale/Glover stuff. And Gillian seems so...un-natural when trying to be funny outside of a script that its endearing.

    Luckily I love them both in Community, so that's all that matters.

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  • Captain TragedyCaptain Tragedy Registered User regular
    edited April 2012
    I get the Brie backlash to the massive Internet love, though I don't personally have a problem with her. She's sorta in danger of following the Kristen Bell arc of "Internet loved star of low-rated cultishly adored show" to "star of mediocre to bad romantic comedies and horror movies where mainstream audiences fail to see what the fuss is about" to "squeaking by on so-so received cable show with most of her geek cred cashed out".

    I don't think I've seen Danny in anything outside of Community other than Community-related interviews and Soup cameos.

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  • hippofanthippofant Registered User regular
    I get the Brie backlash to the massive Internet love, though I don't personally have a problem with her. She's sorta in danger of following the Kristen Bell arc of "Internet loved star of low-rated cultishly adored show" to "star of mediocre to bad romantic comedies and horror movies where mainstream audiences fail to see what the fuss is about" to "squeaking by on so-so received cable show with most of her geek cred cashed out".

    I don't think I've seen Danny in anything outside of Community other than Community-related interviews and Soup cameos.

    Well, Alison Brie's also in Mad Men. Don't think Kristen Bell had anything like that on her resume prior to Veronica Mars.

  • CambiataCambiata Social Justice Vanguard of Your Destruction Registered User regular
    That Spaced clip made me realize:

    Simon Pegg needs to make an appearance on Community pronto.

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  • Captain TragedyCaptain Tragedy Registered User regular
    edited April 2012
    Kristen had Deadwood just before Veronica Mars. That's not that close to an equivalent to Alison on Mad Men, since Kristen was only on for 2 or 3 episodes, but it seemed to show she was capable of something more and being involved in more interesting projects at one point.

    It's still early enough in her career that I'm not saying she's definitely going to go down that path. I'm just hoping that Alison takes a bit more care in picking interesting work, rather than going for easy paychecks once Community ends.

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  • enlightenedbumenlightenedbum Registered User regular
    I get the Brie backlash to the massive Internet love, though I don't personally have a problem with her. She's sorta in danger of following the Kristen Bell arc of "Internet loved star of low-rated cultishly adored show" to "star of mediocre to bad romantic comedies and horror movies where mainstream audiences fail to see what the fuss is about" to "squeaking by on so-so received cable show with most of her geek cred cashed out".

    I don't think I've seen Danny in anything outside of Community other than Community-related interviews and Soup cameos.

    Kristen Bell's segments on the Late Late Show with Craig Ferguson are enough for me to still love her.

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  • Captain TragedyCaptain Tragedy Registered User regular
    Yeah, she's fantastic on Craig Ferguson. I just wish her movie/TV work was more impressive than it turned out to be.

  • DeebaserDeebaser Lead Frog Rammer Fake Board GamerRegistered User regular
    If you tweet about community with the tag #BrittaLovesCarnies in the next 4 minutes you may win a "time hoodie" per joel mchale.

  • JoshmviiJoshmvii Registered User regular
    Joshmvii wrote: »
    The problem is, and it sounds arrogant but is simply true, most people are not that bright.

    This is an incredibly goosey criticism. Community isn't for everyone. That doesn't make them stupid for not liking it. You don't need a high IQ to enjoy Community. If someone doesn't enjoy the pillow fort episode, it's not because they were too stupid to understand the concept of pillow fighting. It simply isn't their cup of tea. And that's fine.

    Now, you may have a point that Community relies on a lot of pop culture references, and AD has a lot of internal references. But that's not a matter of intelligence. That's a matter of most people being too busy to care.

    I was talking more about Arrested Development, and I'm sorry, but yes, there are many jokes in AD that will be totally missed by the average person, and not because they're a pop culture reference. The lack of a laugh track/studio audience and the writing of some of the jokes just meant many people just wouldn't get it. I've tried to show that show to people before and watched them just have glazed eyes at some jokes that are immediately hilarious to myself and most people I know.

    Community is more about the pop culture references and stuff, but the same premise applies to a certain extent. I like Big Bang Theory because sometimes it makes me laugh, but the truth is, there are many people watching that show giving it ratings that just cackle madly every time they hear the studio audience coming in, and wouldn't like a show like Community at all. Different strokes. My point was just a show like Community will never be as popular as one that has writing that is just aiming to please the biggest number of people with obvious laugh points.


  • UnknownSaintUnknownSaint Registered User
    edited April 2012
    I think Community has an absolute ton of internal references, on par with Arrested Development in that regard, actually. To say that it's 'more about pop culture references' is maybe a little too reductive and doesn't nearly do the show justice.

    I mean, they've referenced Daybreak in like half a dozen episodes at this point. The Dean's myriad of entrances are a continuing joke. Jeff's exchanges with Leonard (which they've even subverted as part of Jeff's storyline in a recent episode.) Annie's Boobs. Troy and Abed in the Morning. Six seasons and a movie. It goes on and on and on.

    Shit, now that I'm thinking about it, Community may have more of this type of thing than even AD. (Which isn't to say one is better than the other, it's merely a comment on the characterization of the humor in the shows.)

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  • AManFromEarthAManFromEarth Let's get to twerk! The King in the SwampRegistered User regular
    I think Community has an absolute ton of internal references, on par with Arrested Development in that regard, actually. To say that it's 'more about pop culture references' is maybe a little too reductive and doesn't nearly do the show justice.

    I mean, they've referenced Daybreak in like half a dozen episodes at this point. The Dean's myriad of entrances are a continuing joke. Jeff's exchanges with Leonard (which they've even subverted as part of Jeff's storyline in a recent episode.) Annie's Boobs. Troy and Abed in the Morning. Six seasons and a movie. It goes on and on and on.

    Shit, now that I'm thinking about it, Community may have more of this type of thing than even AD. (Which isn't to say one is better than the other, it's merely a comment on the characterization of the humor in the shows.)

    All sitcoms have internal references. The problem with AD is that by the third season a lot of the jokes were just references to the last three years, Community has avoided that trap.

    But every show has it's NORM! or How You Doin'? or DAMN IT, WORF!

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  • useless4useless4 Registered User regular
    Disrupter wrote: »
    For some reason, as much as I love Gillian Jacobs, Donald Glover and Joel Mchale. I really dislike Danny Pudi and Allison Brie in everything they do outside of community. Like any time I see Danny Pudi in something outside of community, even if that something is good, even if his role in that something is good, I kind of want to punch him in the face. Maybe he just has a punchable face?

    He had one absolutely random hysterical line in the otherwise forgettable Road Trip sequel.
    "I had no idea my father would be overthrown by a group of 12 unarmed peasants and a wizard. "
    That's just community enough to make my wife and i fall into bouts of laughter because it comes out of nowhere.

  • UnknownSaintUnknownSaint Registered User
    I think Community has an absolute ton of internal references, on par with Arrested Development in that regard, actually. To say that it's 'more about pop culture references' is maybe a little too reductive and doesn't nearly do the show justice.

    I mean, they've referenced Daybreak in like half a dozen episodes at this point. The Dean's myriad of entrances are a continuing joke. Jeff's exchanges with Leonard (which they've even subverted as part of Jeff's storyline in a recent episode.) Annie's Boobs. Troy and Abed in the Morning. Six seasons and a movie. It goes on and on and on.

    Shit, now that I'm thinking about it, Community may have more of this type of thing than even AD. (Which isn't to say one is better than the other, it's merely a comment on the characterization of the humor in the shows.)

    All sitcoms have internal references. The problem with AD is that by the third season a lot of the jokes were just references to the last three years, Community has avoided that trap.

    But every show has it's NORM! or How You Doin'? or DAMN IT, WORF!

    I think catchphrases are different than internal references. Watching the glorious culmination of the chicken impressions in Arrested Development is a heck of a lot different (and better) than Jerry Seinfeld cursing Newman's name and the show stopping for five minutes of applause.

  • KalTorakKalTorak Registered User regular
    If they go on long enough catch-phrases can morph into self-referential humor. E.g. Jerry's mom going "Hello, Newman" wouldn't be nearly as funny if we didn't already know that's what Jerry says.

  • AManFromEarthAManFromEarth Let's get to twerk! The King in the SwampRegistered User regular
    I think Community has an absolute ton of internal references, on par with Arrested Development in that regard, actually. To say that it's 'more about pop culture references' is maybe a little too reductive and doesn't nearly do the show justice.

    I mean, they've referenced Daybreak in like half a dozen episodes at this point. The Dean's myriad of entrances are a continuing joke. Jeff's exchanges with Leonard (which they've even subverted as part of Jeff's storyline in a recent episode.) Annie's Boobs. Troy and Abed in the Morning. Six seasons and a movie. It goes on and on and on.

    Shit, now that I'm thinking about it, Community may have more of this type of thing than even AD. (Which isn't to say one is better than the other, it's merely a comment on the characterization of the humor in the shows.)

    All sitcoms have internal references. The problem with AD is that by the third season a lot of the jokes were just references to the last three years, Community has avoided that trap.

    But every show has it's NORM! or How You Doin'? or DAMN IT, WORF!

    I think catchphrases are different than internal references. Watching the glorious culmination of the chicken impressions in Arrested Development is a heck of a lot different (and better) than Jerry Seinfeld cursing Newman's name and the show stopping for five minutes of applause.

    well that's what I mean. Annie's Boobs, Britta being the worst, interchangable words, six seasons and a movie, all catchphrases.

    I mean, arguably the monkey isn't, but idk

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  • UnknownSaintUnknownSaint Registered User
    I think Community has an absolute ton of internal references, on par with Arrested Development in that regard, actually. To say that it's 'more about pop culture references' is maybe a little too reductive and doesn't nearly do the show justice.

    I mean, they've referenced Daybreak in like half a dozen episodes at this point. The Dean's myriad of entrances are a continuing joke. Jeff's exchanges with Leonard (which they've even subverted as part of Jeff's storyline in a recent episode.) Annie's Boobs. Troy and Abed in the Morning. Six seasons and a movie. It goes on and on and on.

    Shit, now that I'm thinking about it, Community may have more of this type of thing than even AD. (Which isn't to say one is better than the other, it's merely a comment on the characterization of the humor in the shows.)

    All sitcoms have internal references. The problem with AD is that by the third season a lot of the jokes were just references to the last three years, Community has avoided that trap.

    But every show has it's NORM! or How You Doin'? or DAMN IT, WORF!

    I think catchphrases are different than internal references. Watching the glorious culmination of the chicken impressions in Arrested Development is a heck of a lot different (and better) than Jerry Seinfeld cursing Newman's name and the show stopping for five minutes of applause.

    well that's what I mean. Annie's Boobs, Britta being the worst, interchangable words, six seasons and a movie, all catchphrases.

    I mean, arguably the monkey isn't, but idk

    Britta being the worst isn't a catchphrase, because they've call her that in a different way nearly every time it comes up. Annie's Boobs certainly isn't. Neither is basically anything I mentioned (with the exception of maybe 'Six seasons and a movie', which has been used verbatim at least a few times, but is at least a little better than your average catchphrase because it has some meta-connotation).

    I don't think you know what a catchphrase is.

  • KalTorakKalTorak Registered User regular
    Catchphrases in Community are... umm...

    Abed saying "cool. Coolcoolcool."
    Annie saying "ah!" in an offended tone.
    Shirley saying "Oh, that's nice!"
    Britta says "Britta for the win!" a lot, not sure if it's a catchphrase though.

  • Element BrianElement Brian Registered User regular

    Nappuccino wrote: »
    KalTorak wrote: »

    reminds me of:

    reminds me of

    http://www.oldeenglish.org/podcast/gym-class

    I like the idea of the carbonation in your pop being too much for your mormon body

    too worldly nooooo
  • TexiKenTexiKen unable to feel my retinal assessment Registered User regular
    Most forced deaning entrance yet?

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  • _J__J_ Festive Pedant Registered User regular
    Alison Brie has a band now. The other members are Cyrina Fiallo (who played the friend of Britta's "lesbian" friend in "Early 21st Century Romanticism") and Julianna Guill (who played the head cheerleader in "Fistful of Paintballs", and who you shouldn't Google Image Search at work).

    The link has a brief video clip of them covering Childish Gambino.

    Is my favorite band now.

    Seriously J not only are you a monumentally umpleasant person when you start uttering the nonsense that passes for philosophy in your mind (shame on whatever institution you graduated in, and shame on your tutors for creating such a monster), but your sense of humor, such as it is, is awful.
  • HadjiQuestHadjiQuest Registered User regular
    edited April 2012
    Holy shitmonkeys.

    That episode was amazing. That would've been an entire season of any other show on network tv.

    It was so much of an experience that I just kind of want to stop watching TV for the night.

    Edit: Also, for those who couldn't quite place Blade
    Spoiler:

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  • TexiKenTexiKen unable to feel my retinal assessment Registered User regular
    edited April 2012
    Spoiler:

    edit: so that's how Abed goes evil, way to go Jeff.

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  • emnmnmeemnmnme Heard about this on conservative radio:Registered User regular
    The Dean panicking with his subtle master plan at the end was the best joke I have ever seen.

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  • MagellMagell Sphinx! Parts UnknownRegistered User regular
    I loved this episode so much.
    Spoiler:

  • HadjiQuestHadjiQuest Registered User regular
    I love how Abed's character is turning from
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  • SchrodingerSchrodinger Registered User regular
    Joshmvii wrote: »
    I like Big Bang Theory because sometimes it makes me laugh, but the truth is, there are many people watching that show giving it ratings that just cackle madly every time they hear the studio audience coming in, and wouldn't like a show like Community at all.

    Studio audience has a place on TV, but it's a different feel. Case in point:

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