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US Congressional Elections 2012: Scott Brown, Diviner of Ancestry!

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  • Brian KrakowBrian Krakow Registered User regular
    Right, but that's not a challenge to Congressional leadership, that's just the Speaker being defeated for reelection. Which is very rare, I'll grant you, but not what I'm talking about.
    Oh, I see.

  • AngelHedgieAngelHedgie Registered User regular
    So, seems that Warren outraised Brown by double last quarter, and it doesn't look like that will change:

    http://politics.salon.com/2012/04/09/when_fighting_wall_street_pays/

    Best part is that Brown's "gentleman's agreement" will wind up as an albatross around his neck.

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  • PantsBPantsB Registered User regular
    So, seems that Warren outraised Brown by double last quarter, and it doesn't look like that will change:

    http://politics.salon.com/2012/04/09/when_fighting_wall_street_pays/

    Best part is that Brown's "gentleman's agreement" will wind up as an albatross around his neck.
    It should be noted Brown still has more CoH, even though Warren has out raised him the last two quarters. Incumbency is strong.

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  • nexuscrawlernexuscrawler Registered User regular
    Go the fuck away, Olympia Snowe. Go make your millions lobbying for whoever and shut up.

    Fucking egotistical blowhards like her are why the Senate should be abolished. Well, more specifically the ridiculous rules that make them all egotistical blowhards, but whatever.

    You speak ill of presdient snowe

  • adytumadytum Registered User regular
    Mill wrote: »
    I want to be optimistic that we might just see Cantor go this year.

    One look at a map of Cantor's district should free you of that optimism!

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  • AngelHedgieAngelHedgie Registered User regular
    PantsB wrote: »
    So, seems that Warren outraised Brown by double last quarter, and it doesn't look like that will change:

    http://politics.salon.com/2012/04/09/when_fighting_wall_street_pays/

    Best part is that Brown's "gentleman's agreement" will wind up as an albatross around his neck.
    It should be noted Brown still has more CoH, even though Warren has out raised him the last two quarters. Incumbency is strong.

    True, but Warren is closing the funding gap and levelling the playing field, which puts Brown in a very bad spot.

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  • AngelHedgieAngelHedgie Registered User regular
    adytum wrote: »
    Mill wrote: »
    I want to be optimistic that we might just see Cantor go this year.

    One look at a map of Cantor's district should free you of that optimism!

    Cantor won't be removed. He will be window seated, though.

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  • enlightenedbumenlightenedbum Registered User regular
    PantsB wrote: »
    So, seems that Warren outraised Brown by double last quarter, and it doesn't look like that will change:

    http://politics.salon.com/2012/04/09/when_fighting_wall_street_pays/

    Best part is that Brown's "gentleman's agreement" will wind up as an albatross around his neck.
    It should be noted Brown still has more CoH, even though Warren has out raised him the last two quarters. Incumbency is strong.

    True, but Warren is closing the funding gap and levelling the playing field, which puts Brown in a very bad spot.

    Charles Pierce wrote a thing about how she's not being particularly visible on a local level and Brown has been. Which is not great.

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  • PantsBPantsB Registered User regular
    PantsB wrote: »
    So, seems that Warren outraised Brown by double last quarter, and it doesn't look like that will change:

    http://politics.salon.com/2012/04/09/when_fighting_wall_street_pays/

    Best part is that Brown's "gentleman's agreement" will wind up as an albatross around his neck.
    It should be noted Brown still has more CoH, even though Warren has out raised him the last two quarters. Incumbency is strong.

    True, but Warren is closing the funding gap and levelling the playing field, which puts Brown in a very bad spot.

    Charles Pierce wrote a thing about how she's not being particularly visible on a local level and Brown has been. Which is not great.

    Brown hasn't been either. Its still 7 months out and its a Senate race, not the Presidential.

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  • DoctorArchDoctorArch Curmudgeon Registered User regular
    edited April 2012
    Allen West, you are the dumbest, most cowardly representative in Congress: Allen West: I've 'Heard' 80 House Democrats Are Communist Party Members:
    As many as 80 House Democrats are communists, according to Rep. Allen West (R-Fla.).

    West warned constituents at a Tuesday town hall event that he's "heard" that dozens of his Democratic colleagues in the House are members of the Communist Party, the Palm Beach Post reported. There are currently 190 House Democrats.

    West spokeswoman Angela Melvin later defended West's comments -- and clarified to whom West was referring.

    "The Congressman was referring to the 76 members of the Congressional Progressive Caucus. The Communist Party has publicly referred to the Progressive Caucus as its allies. The Progressive Caucus speaks for itself. These individuals certainly aren't proponents of free markets or individual economic freedom," Melvin said in a statement to The Huffington Post.

    West's campaign also sent over the transcript of the actual exchange that took place during the town hall to show that West was asked directly about the role of communists in the House.

    Moderator: What percentage of the American legislature do you think are card-carrying Marxists or International Socialist?
    West: It's a good question. I believe there's about 78 to 81 members of the Democrat Party who are members of the Communist Party. It's called the Congressional Progressive Caucus.

    During the same event, which took place at Jensen Beach, the freshman Republican said President Barack Obama wouldn't have a public debate with him over their policy differences because he was "scared." The president was in Florida on Tuesday giving remarks about the economy and holding campaign events.

    "I really wish that, standing here before you, was Allen West and President Obama," West said, according to the Palm Beach Post. "We could have a simple discussion. But that ain't ever gonna happen."

    When an audience member asked why, West said in "a mocking voice" that it was because Obama "was too scared."

    One, it doesn't matter, what is this, McCarthy reborn? Two, regardless if you have "heard" names fucking name them you spineless goose so they can call you out on your shit. (Can you imagine the shitstorm the press would have if a Democrat said he had "heard" that Republican congressman belonged to the KKK or Fascist parties?) Three, Obama doesn't want to debate you because he's the fucking President of the United States and doesn't have the time to coddle your dumb ass.

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  • dbrock270dbrock270 Registered User regular
    edited April 2012
    Yeah the video of it is just as infuriating.



    I think I have an idea of how West has gotten so far in the GOP.
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  • DrakeonDrakeon Registered User regular
    edited April 2012
    What in the hell is he trying to accomplish by accusing people of being communists in 2012? I just don't understand. The USSR is gone, there is no communist threat anymore.

    I've heard him floated as a VP nominee. Nothing would make me happier than to see this loon tank Romney even more than he's already done, but sadly I think they'll vet whoever they choose a little better than Palin this go around.

    Also, on a slightly different (but still related to this thread) topic: I wish so badly I could vote for Elizabeth Warren, but I don't live in Massachusetts. You'd better make sure she beats Scott Brown guys.

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  • enlightenedbumenlightenedbum Registered User regular
    He's a guy who got elected because he tortured Iraqis. Don't expect him to make sense.

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  • AManFromEarthAManFromEarth Let's get to twerk! The King in the SwampRegistered User regular
    Drakeon wrote: »
    What in the hell is he trying to accomplish by accusing people of being communists in 2012? I just don't understand. The USSR is gone, there is no communist threat anymore.

    I've heard him floated as a VP nominee. Nothing would make me happier than to see this loon tank Romney even more than he's already done, but sadly I think they'll vet whoever they choose a little better than Palin this go around.

    Also, on a slightly different (but still related to this thread) topic: I wish so badly I could vote for Elizabeth Warren, but I don't live in Massachusetts. You'd better make sure she beats Scott Brown guys.

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  • shrykeshryke Member of the Beast Registered User regular
    Old people vote.

    Americans (mostly the old ones) are still afraid of commies and socialism.

    These 2 facts intersect to make America what it is today.

  • GoslingGosling Looking Up Soccer In Mongolia Right Now, Probably Watertown, WIRegistered User regular
    edited April 2012
    So remember Ron Johnson, that random guy who somehow beat Russ Feingold for reasons I still cannot fathom?

    Turns out he is in way over his head and has no idea how the fuck this 'Congress' thing works, to the point where speculation is that he may be already permanently damaging any chance at a serious Senate career no matter how many times he may get re-elected. He's not talking to anyone- well, scratch that, he's talking people's ears off but seems uninterested in responses- he hasn't really made friends with anyone, and he's gearing up to fire his entire staff... which is actually the second time already he will have done so, as he barely brought over anyone from his campaign. And the people that are going to be leaving are going to be carrying horror stories with them all over the Beltway.

    Basically, Ron Johnson is not fit to get Russ Feingold coffee. Which we already knew, but now it's increasingly common knowledge in Washington too.

    (BONUS: The article closes with Foster Friss telling Fox News that Johnson ought to be considered for Romney's running mate, which hahahahahahaha.)

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  • dbrock270dbrock270 Registered User regular
    People's anti-Obama hate was so bad in 2010 that they elected some of the worst politicians to have ever served office in the history of this country.

  • LorctheOrcLorctheOrc Registered User regular
    And they played right into the Pope's hands. There are now 24 (!!!) Popist senators

  • galenbladegalenblade Registered User regular
    I love the fact that there's something like this out there: A Google Map of the NY redistricting. I just wish I could see the old district boundaries.

    Plus DKos has a cheat sheet here.

    Nothing too dramatic changing, it looks like, though the 27th might flip from D to R. But that was a possibility even before redistricting.

    My hope of Peter King's possible ouster has been quashed, though. He was redistricted away from constituencies that might threaten him.

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  • AngelHedgieAngelHedgie Registered User regular
    Charlie Pierce introduces us to Rob Zerban, and why you should be supporting him:
    http://www.esquire.com/blogs/politics/rob-zerban-vs-paul-ryan-8061341

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  • override367override367 Registered User regular
    dbrock270 wrote: »
    People's anti-Obama hate was so bad in 2010 that they elected some of the worst politicians to have ever served office in the history of this country.

    No, the people who hate obama all voted in 2010, while democrats stayed home

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  • MillMill Registered User regular
    dbrock270 wrote: »
    People's anti-Obama hate was so bad in 2010 that they elected some of the worst politicians to have ever served office in the history of this country.

    No, the people who hate obama all voted in 2010, while democrats stayed home

    Then you had a sub-section that didn't necessarily hate Obama, or at least not to the point where they would never vote for him, who bought the tea party's lie of "we'll fix things."

    Now that they have proven that they couldn't fix things; hopefully, making it clear that they'll fuck things up worse, they'll have an even harder time winning this time around. Sadly, I think we have to wait another 4-8 years before mortality starts thinning the ranks of the dumbasses that make up the tea party. Getting the ranks of younger progressives to vote more frequently is another issue as well, I think it will sort itself out to a degree, but I wouldn't mind seeing efforts to get the morons there to understand that voting in primaries and actual elections are how they can best influence policy (seriously, fuck OWS unwillingness to engage in elected politics - newflash, we can all bitch, so we all have ways to ignore said bitching).

  • SticksSticks Registered User regular
    I'm going to miss Lorc once he gets perma-banned. He's like the Bizarro Stormy of politics threads.

    "I am LorcTheOrc, something something papists."

    Good times.

  • LolkenLolken Registered User, __BANNED USERS, Dumbasses
    Sticks wrote: »
    I'm going to miss Lorc once he gets perma-banned. He's like the Bizarro Stormy of politics threads.

    "I am LorcTheOrc, something something papists."

    Good times.

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  • BurtletoyBurtletoy Registered User regular
    Sticks wrote: »
    I'm going to miss Lorc once he gets perma-banned. He's like the Bizarro Stormy of politics threads.

    "I am LorcTheOrc, something something papists."

    Good times.

    Someone in the [chat] thread got a pm from him wherin he admitted to just be trolling.

    I don't know how much longer till the perma ban comes out.

  • PellaeonPellaeon Registered User regular
    Just got my California primary information guide.

    Orly taitz is running for senate. I needed a good laugh this morning. Thanks California!

  • CptKemzikCptKemzik Registered User regular
    I didnt even know "Orly" could be a name.

  • Pi-r8Pi-r8 Registered User regular
    Pellaeon wrote: »
    Just got my California primary information guide.

    Orly taitz is running for senate. I needed a good laugh this morning. Thanks California!

    I think you need to vote for her. Share the laughter with the nation!

  • GoslingGosling Looking Up Soccer In Mongolia Right Now, Probably Watertown, WIRegistered User regular
    edited April 2012
    And apparently she's garnering 19% support in the primary, which with the GOP field as crowded as it is would be enough to put her against Feinstein in the general.

    Where she has no chance whatsoever. (The GOP's actual preferred candidate has only 2% support.)

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  • ShadowenShadowen Snores in the morning Registered User regular
    CptKemzik wrote: »
    I didnt even know "Orly" could be a name.

    I think she's Russian originally.

    If you're making a meme reference, well then hee-hee.

  • DrakeonDrakeon Registered User regular
    Pellaeon wrote: »
    Just got my California primary information guide.

    Orly taitz is running for senate. I needed a good laugh this morning. Thanks California!

    Holy shit, I want her to win the primary so bad.

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  • CantidoCantido Registered User regular
    dbrock270 wrote: »
    People's anti-Obama hate was so bad in 2010 that they elected some of the worst politicians to have ever served office in the history of this country.

    No, the people who hate obama all voted in 2010, while democrats stayed home

    And lots of fresh new young voters have this simply ridiculous notion is that America only has an election every four years.

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  • Boring7Boring7 Registered User regular
    Mill wrote: »
    dbrock270 wrote: »
    People's anti-Obama hate was so bad in 2010 that they elected some of the worst politicians to have ever served office in the history of this country.

    No, the people who hate obama all voted in 2010, while democrats stayed home

    Then you had a sub-section that didn't necessarily hate Obama, or at least not to the point where they would never vote for him, who bought the tea party's lie of "we'll fix things."

    Now that they have proven that they couldn't fix things; hopefully, making it clear that they'll fuck things up worse, they'll have an even harder time winning this time around. Sadly, I think we have to wait another 4-8 years before mortality starts thinning the ranks of the dumbasses that make up the tea party. Getting the ranks of younger progressives to vote more frequently is another issue as well, I think it will sort itself out to a degree, but I wouldn't mind seeing efforts to get the morons there to understand that voting in primaries and actual elections are how they can best influence policy (seriously, fuck OWS unwillingness to engage in elected politics - newflash, we can all bitch, so we all have ways to ignore said bitching).

    That's not entirely fair, one force behind the teabaggers' successes was their, "rugged individual" narrative. They claimed to be rugged individuals who held allegiance to no party and just HAPPENED to all vote Republican and only attack the "democrat party."

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  • shrykeshryke Member of the Beast Registered User regular
    Boring7 wrote: »
    Mill wrote: »
    dbrock270 wrote: »
    People's anti-Obama hate was so bad in 2010 that they elected some of the worst politicians to have ever served office in the history of this country.

    No, the people who hate obama all voted in 2010, while democrats stayed home

    Then you had a sub-section that didn't necessarily hate Obama, or at least not to the point where they would never vote for him, who bought the tea party's lie of "we'll fix things."

    Now that they have proven that they couldn't fix things; hopefully, making it clear that they'll fuck things up worse, they'll have an even harder time winning this time around. Sadly, I think we have to wait another 4-8 years before mortality starts thinning the ranks of the dumbasses that make up the tea party. Getting the ranks of younger progressives to vote more frequently is another issue as well, I think it will sort itself out to a degree, but I wouldn't mind seeing efforts to get the morons there to understand that voting in primaries and actual elections are how they can best influence policy (seriously, fuck OWS unwillingness to engage in elected politics - newflash, we can all bitch, so we all have ways to ignore said bitching).

    That's not entirely fair, one force behind the teabaggers' successes was their, "rugged individual" narrative. They claimed to be rugged individuals who held allegiance to no party and just HAPPENED to all vote Republican and only attack the "democrat party."

    That's because only the democrats were inflating the deficit.

    No seriously, stop trying to think to a time before 2009. Nothing important happened then. Trust me.

  • dbrock270dbrock270 Registered User regular
    I'm glad their raging deficit boner has calmed down over the past few months. I don't know if almost destroying the country with the debt ceiling or almost shutting down the government made them rethink their platforms.

  • Boring7Boring7 Registered User regular
    edited April 2012
    shryke wrote: »
    Boring7 wrote: »
    Mill wrote: »
    dbrock270 wrote: »
    People's anti-Obama hate was so bad in 2010 that they elected some of the worst politicians to have ever served office in the history of this country.

    No, the people who hate obama all voted in 2010, while democrats stayed home

    Then you had a sub-section that didn't necessarily hate Obama, or at least not to the point where they would never vote for him, who bought the tea party's lie of "we'll fix things."

    Now that they have proven that they couldn't fix things; hopefully, making it clear that they'll fuck things up worse, they'll have an even harder time winning this time around. Sadly, I think we have to wait another 4-8 years before mortality starts thinning the ranks of the dumbasses that make up the tea party. Getting the ranks of younger progressives to vote more frequently is another issue as well, I think it will sort itself out to a degree, but I wouldn't mind seeing efforts to get the morons there to understand that voting in primaries and actual elections are how they can best influence policy (seriously, fuck OWS unwillingness to engage in elected politics - newflash, we can all bitch, so we all have ways to ignore said bitching).

    That's not entirely fair, one force behind the teabaggers' successes was their, "rugged individual" narrative. They claimed to be rugged individuals who held allegiance to no party and just HAPPENED to all vote Republican and only attack the "democrat party."

    That's because only the democrats were inflating the deficit.

    No seriously, stop trying to think to a time before 2009. Nothing important happened then. Trust me.

    The point is, bootstrappiness sells. OWS can garner more support and exert more influence by pretending to be an unimpeachable third party than by admitting they're mostly democrats and that more democrats in office and more liberal democrats guiding policy is their goal. Truth is good, I like truth, but truth doesn't sell as good as truthiness and when you're trying to win against the owners of this country you need something that really sells.

    And on that topic, I ran across this recently: More than 2,700 companies collect your state income tax, and then keep it for themselves.

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  • Mild ConfusionMild Confusion Smash All Things Registered User regular
    Wow, that is some bullshit.

  • ZythonZython Registered User regular
    For a second there, I was glad I live in a state with no income tax.

    Then I remembered I live in a state with no income tax.

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  • shrykeshryke Member of the Beast Registered User regular
    Boring7 wrote: »
    shryke wrote: »
    Boring7 wrote: »
    Mill wrote: »
    dbrock270 wrote: »
    People's anti-Obama hate was so bad in 2010 that they elected some of the worst politicians to have ever served office in the history of this country.

    No, the people who hate obama all voted in 2010, while democrats stayed home

    Then you had a sub-section that didn't necessarily hate Obama, or at least not to the point where they would never vote for him, who bought the tea party's lie of "we'll fix things."

    Now that they have proven that they couldn't fix things; hopefully, making it clear that they'll fuck things up worse, they'll have an even harder time winning this time around. Sadly, I think we have to wait another 4-8 years before mortality starts thinning the ranks of the dumbasses that make up the tea party. Getting the ranks of younger progressives to vote more frequently is another issue as well, I think it will sort itself out to a degree, but I wouldn't mind seeing efforts to get the morons there to understand that voting in primaries and actual elections are how they can best influence policy (seriously, fuck OWS unwillingness to engage in elected politics - newflash, we can all bitch, so we all have ways to ignore said bitching).

    That's not entirely fair, one force behind the teabaggers' successes was their, "rugged individual" narrative. They claimed to be rugged individuals who held allegiance to no party and just HAPPENED to all vote Republican and only attack the "democrat party."

    That's because only the democrats were inflating the deficit.

    No seriously, stop trying to think to a time before 2009. Nothing important happened then. Trust me.

    The point is, bootstrappiness sells. OWS can garner more support and exert more influence by pretending to be an unimpeachable third party than by admitting they're mostly democrats and that more democrats in office and more liberal democrats guiding policy is their goal. Truth is good, I like truth, but truth doesn't sell as good as truthiness and when you're trying to win against the owners of this country you need something that really sells. [/url]

    No they can't. That's why they haven't done much so far beyond their initial success of bringing income inequality into the limelight.

  • AngelHedgieAngelHedgie Registered User regular
    Virginia Foxx continues to be a horrible person:

    http://www.salon.com/2012/04/16/a_huge_student_loan_scam/

    At least this means she'll get good coverage in the WaPo.

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