Comics News Thread 4 (RIP ComicsAlliance)

Munch · April 2012

If those new toys don't have little heat-sensitive decals on them, they can fuck right off.

Antimatter · April 2012

they can fuck right off.

wirehead26 · April 2012

Archaia comics to publish their first run comics exclusively on comiXology.

Correction: While they are releasing their archive and first run material on the site I didn't read anything about them not doing print comics anymore.

Crimsondude · April 2012

While Marvel has been trying to create interest in Black Widow for at least five years, people are already making their own Captain Marvel action figures.

This is a bad omen along with all the Carol Corps fan art on tumblr. The Internet embracing something is either 50/50 for success or unbelievable failure.

Gaslight · April 2012

Crimsondude wrote: »

While Marvel has been trying to create interest in Black Widow for at least five years, people are already making their own Captain Marvel action figures.

FUCK ME that is ugly.

Crimsondude · April 2012

I prefer this one.

Centipede Damascus · April 2012

C2E2: FRACTION HITS THE STREETS WITH "HAWKEYE"

Clint Barton won't be alone on his quest to be a hero and a good person. He'll be accompanied by the Marvel Universe's other Hawkeye, teenage Kate Bishop of the Young Avengers. The duo's different backgrounds and shared stubbornness will lead to an interesting and affective dynamic.

"It's very 'Avengers,' by which I mean John Steed and Emma Peel. There's a whole healthy person between the two of them. There's a line in 'Rocky' where he says, 'I got bumps. You got bumps. Together we fit,' or something like that -- the two of them fit together. Each one has what the other doesn't, which means they work very well together," Fraction said of their dynamic. "She's young, incredibly gifted, incredibly cultured, and incredibly headstrong. She doesn't suffer his crap and also wants to be someone worthwhile, but she's trying to figure out how to make that possible. She follows him not because of his abilities, but his accomplishments. So they work together quite well. It's an apprentice and master style relationship."

initiatefailure · April 2012

hawkeyeS written by the Iron Fist team? Well damn I guess i'll start buying singles again

Crimsondude · April 2012

Hmmm

Well, get ready for some serious path-crossing. As announced Sunday afternoon during Mavel’s “Next Big Thing” panel at the C2E2 convention in Chicago, Fraction and Gillen are collaborating on “Everything Burns,” a seven-part crossover (nine chapters in total, counting two epilogue issues) between The Mighty Thor and Journey Into Mystery, depicting all-out war in the nine realms.

http://www.newsarama.com/comics/c2e2-2012-everything-burns-thor-loki.html

Turambar · April 2012

"Everything Burns"

Surtur?

ManetherenWolf · April 2012

yeah its the return of surtur.

Bogart · April 2012

Jamie McKelvie announced on his twitter feed that he's the new regular Defenders artist. Which is awesome.

wirehead26 · April 2012

Oh shit Alan Davis as one of the artists for the MT/JitM crossover. That makes it a must-buy for me alone.

initiatefailure · April 2012

Bogart wrote: »

Jamie McKelvie announced on his twitter feed that he's the new regular Defenders artist. Which is awesome.

while that is awesome, losing the dodson's is never a happy moment

Hensler · April 2012

Any word on what the Dodsons' next project is?

Solar · April 2012

initiatefailure wrote: »

Bogart wrote: »

Jamie McKelvie announced on his twitter feed that he's the new regular Defenders artist. Which is awesome.

while that is awesome, losing the dodson's is never a happy moment

Yeah. I like McKelvie but man, I love the Dodsons.

Delduwath · April 2012

I know that David Brothers isn't everyone's cup of tea, but I think this is a good article on the whole Alan Moore vs. Before Watchmen thing:
http://4thletter.net/2012/04/if-newsarama-knew-better-it-would-do-better/

He talks about how there's hardly anyone talking about the actual issue at hand - namely, creator's rights - and then outlines the relevant facts and the argument against "Before Watchmen". He later summarizes his personal position in one of the comments like this:

David Brothers wrote:

Yeah, I think Moore is wrong on modern comics and a few other things, and I don’t even particularly like his comics any more. But that’s beside the point, right? This is about one specific instance, not his entire life. He can grump all he wants and criticize things out of ignorance, because he’s a regular old human being. That doesn’t mean he deserves to be screwed.

Edit: There some pretty interesting discussion going on in those comments, as well.

Munch · April 2012

I really enjoyed his take-down of DC's Before Watchmen promotions, during C2E2.

David Brothers wrote:

Good news, y’all. All of your concerns about the dubious business practices of DC Comics and how they basically robbed Alan Moore and Dave Gibbons of the rights to Watchmen have been resolved! DC found a paid shill to sit in the audience and pretend to be skeptical, all so that they could put on a song and dance to show us that the art looks nice!

Let me be the first to say WHEW! I’m glad that they managed to get the people at the top of their list, too, since Kevin Smith, Grant Morrison, and Frank Quitely all turned them down. That’s how you know they’re being truthful: there’s no hype, just hard-hitting facts. Funnybook Babylonian Chris Eckert has more on DC’s effective and inspiring marketing scheme here, and a hint for what JMS’s book might be like!

Our worries have been all for naught, so please rest assured that the art looks nice, and therefore the work is legally and morally correct!

Personally, I'm not buying Before Watchmen, for the simple reason that it represents a dearth of creativity, on DC's behalf.

When I saw that, following a string of unimpressive events, Marvel was going to do a giant Avengers v.s. X-Men crossover, stacked with big-name creators, and built on the back of stories they've been repeating ad infinitum for years, I thought, "Oh, this is surely the most shameful cash-grab of the year."

And then DC revealed Before Watchmen, and I realized that there's always a new low to sink to.

Crimsondude · April 2012

I'm kind of surprised DC never did the alternate world stories from Fringe, but I guess the money wasn't worth it.

I wish I could say that this doesn't make me think less of the people involved because I like or respect them (Okay, not JMS), but man ... Darwyn Cooke. He said something about "why don't you work on something for twenty years and then fuck it up" when talking about characters being mishandled (I think he was tearing up about Westlake not seeing the final version of Parker, and since I can't immediately think of what else it could have been let's just go with that). I wish I recorded that panel because I'd post that mp3 all over the fucking web.

TexiKen · April 2012

Didio's line about getting nothing but positive feedback is that bubble mentality that hurts the industry the most.

Crimsondude · April 2012

It doesn't help that there's no such thing as independent comics news/press.

WiseManTobes · April 2012

Crimsondude wrote: »

I'm kind of surprised DC never did the alternate world stories from Fringe, but I guess the money wasn't worth it.

I wish I could say that this doesn't make me think less of the people involved because I like or respect them (Okay, not JMS), but man ... Darwyn Cooke. He said something about "why don't you work on something for twenty years and then fuck it up" when talking about characters being mishandled (I think he was tearing up about Westlake not seeing the final version of Parker, and since I can't immediately think of what else it could have been let's just go with that). I wish I recorded that panel because I'd post that mp3 all over the fucking web.

Did you read the first 6 issue mini from a while back Crimson? I read a friend's, and while it went a little off the rails ( I swear I remember Walter and a Dinosaur, or Walter and Hitler, maybe both rofl) it was still pretty fun.

UltimateInferno · April 2012

I think he means these

Solar · April 2012

TexiKen wrote: »

Didio's line about getting nothing but positive feedback is that bubble mentality that hurts the industry the most.

yeah, it is pretty bad

TexiKen · April 2012

March Sales Estimates

AvX #1 sold 213k, JL #7 sold 131.5k, which was only 4k off from February. Avengers Assemble sold 101k

Sales at the top seemed to stay mostly the same, as Aquaman actually went up in sales a bit, and still beat all Marvel books that weren't AvX or Avengers Assemble. And Superman stopped it's big slides, only losing 3k units at 66k, probably due to the new creative team. Mister Terrific is still the lowest selling of current DC books, at 10.5k.

Saga#1 sold 37.5k, Supercrooks #1 sold 35k, Fairest #1 debuted with 32k.

Avenging Spider-Man #5 dropped 5k from last month to 40k, that is steep, and it seems like retailers and customers might realize the book is just the standard Spidey team-up with no permanent team and adjusting. Just for comparison, Scarlet Spider #3 only dropped about 600 units from #2, selling around 32k. Avenging did have a higher launch but the steps aren't syncing up with the other Spidey stuff out there.

Defenders is having the same problem as Avenging, as #4 is now at 29,700, losing 4k more since last issue.

Crimsondude · April 2012

UltimateInferno wrote: »

I think he means these

...

Yeah. I meant those. I think The Man of Steel Returns would have been interesting depending on what kind of Superman actually returned.

@WiseManTobes I haven't read the tie-ins because I have no idea where I even left off with the series. The whole thing in the queue with a hundred other series for me to catch up on. Stupid TV being good.

Munch · April 2012

I wonder what's up with Secret Avengers #24's sales. It seems like it has to be a mistake, dropping from 37k, to 19k.

TexiKen · April 2012

They were all Ant-Man's fans.

Delduwath · April 2012

TexiKen wrote: »

They were all Ant-Man's fans.

And both of them bough 9k copies each.

(Hey-oooo)

wirehead26 · April 2012

Looks like Secret won't last after A vs. X-men. Oh well.

Crimsondude · April 2012

Weird. Because I grabbed a copy of SA #24, but can't find a physical copy of #23. Oh well.

Arivia · April 2012

Munch wrote: »

I wonder what's up with Secret Avengers #24's sales. It seems like it has to be a mistake, dropping from 37k, to 19k.

#24 was the one where it didn't actually officially get on Diamond's releases list for that week, right?

I would think that definitely has something to do with it.

Solar · April 2012

Yeah I think that was a mistake

sadly it will probably have a detrimental effect on the future sales of the book, people not going back because they missed an issue.

Though I guess there will be lots of them floating around unsold, haha

Arivia · April 2012

Well it might not be THAT doom and gloom, luckily. SA was the last week of March, so it officially popped up in April. Because of that, #24 may do 15k on the April charts too to sort itself out.

Also, Mister Terrific's been cancelled. So the lowest selling New 52 title is Captain Atom at 12.5k.

UltimateInferno · April 2012

Ultimates only doing 32k makes me

, Granted it was a last week book, but still probably wouldn't get too much more.

Solar · April 2012

Arivia wrote: »

Well it might not be THAT doom and gloom, luckily. SA was the last week of March, so it officially popped up in April. Because of that, #24 may do 15k on the April charts too to sort itself out.

Also, Mister Terrific's been cancelled. So the lowest selling New 52 title is Captain Atom at 12.5k.

Noooooooo!

Arivia · April 2012

Yeah sorry Solar

If it helps Huntress #6 was just over 20k, which has me worried

Solar · April 2012

Nobody cares about your stupid girl comics Arivia

Antimatter · April 2012

Man both of your comics can be cancelled

So you know how I feel about omac

Maximum · April 2012

As long as Frankenstein stays afloat I'm happy.

(It'll be cancelled very soon I'm afraid)

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