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The Raid: Redemption is fuckin' incredible (so are other kung-fu movies)

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  • ButtlordButtlord Fornicus Lord of Bondage and PainRegistered User regular
    also the title was basically forced on them for NA distro because there's something else called The Raid already

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  • TrippyJingTrippyJing Moses supposes his toeses are roses. But Moses supposes erroneously.Registered User regular
    #pipe wrote: »
    I kind of wish they'd just not bothered with "plot" and "characters"

    because the plot didn't make sense and the characters were thinner than office paper.

    It's a fun movie to watch, a reminder of what western directors could learn from eastern fight scenes (nary a shaky cam), but it could have been a whole lot better with some more attention paid to the writing.

    For example
    The movie is called The Raid: Redemption and
    Spoiler:

    It was just called The Raid. Then it changed for some reason upon crossing over.

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  • Vann DirasVann Diras Registered User regular
    #pipe wrote: »
    I mean it didn't have camera motion that intentionally obscured the action.

    ah okay

    that ain't shaky cam though, that's director's trying to cheat because they don't know how to choreograph a fight

  • ButtlordButtlord Fornicus Lord of Bondage and PainRegistered User regular
    yeah that's not a shaky cam thing per se

    that's a michael bay thing

    look at how greengrass directed the second and third Bourne movies using nothing BUT shakycam

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  • #pipe#pipe Cocky Stride, Musky odours Pope of Chili TownRegistered User regular
    Buttlord wrote: »
    also the title was basically forced on them for NA distro because there's something else called The Raid already

    Ok fine so call it The Raid: Untouchable

    or The Raid: Machete Paradise

    or The Raid: Fridge Bomb

    or anything else that makes sense.

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  • Vann DirasVann Diras Registered User regular
    intentionally poor framing to obscure the action

    quick cut after quick cut after quick cut

    shaky cam

    all three of these are things used to make action scenes seem visceral

    two of them by jerks who don't know how to direct an action sequence

  • ButtlordButtlord Fornicus Lord of Bondage and PainRegistered User regular
    didn't greengrass do a bunch of quick cuts in the bourne fight scenes

    he's pretty much the only person who should be allowed to do shaky cam ever

    speaking of which, saw a trailer for the new bourne movie with this

    it doesn't look NEARLY as good as supremacy/ultimatum but it has jeremy renner punchin guys and blowing things up so that's ok

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  • TrippyJingTrippyJing Moses supposes his toeses are roses. But Moses supposes erroneously.Registered User regular
    #pipe wrote: »
    Buttlord wrote: »
    also the title was basically forced on them for NA distro because there's something else called The Raid already

    Ok fine so call it The Raid: Untouchable

    or The Raid: Machete Paradise

    or The Raid: Fridge Bomb

    or anything else that makes sense.

    Ok, who are you blaming exactly?

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  • ButtlordButtlord Fornicus Lord of Bondage and PainRegistered User regular
    #pipe wrote: »
    Buttlord wrote: »
    also the title was basically forced on them for NA distro because there's something else called The Raid already

    Ok fine so call it The Raid: Untouchable

    or The Raid: Machete Paradise

    or The Raid: Fridge Bomb

    or anything else that makes sense.

    alliteration plus who actually gives a fuck the plot in this movie or ong bak or tom yum goong or chocolate or bangkok knockout or raging phoenix (ugh) or or or anyway the plot is just an excuse to hit guys in cool ways

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  • wirehead26wirehead26 Registered User regular
    I think Greengrass was just using his filming technique that worked so well in Bloody Sunday an applying it to the Bourne franchise which was just unwise on his part.

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  • #pipe#pipe Cocky Stride, Musky odours Pope of Chili TownRegistered User regular
    I bought the Bourne Identity on bluray a couple weeks ago

    that movie was such a welcome shake up to action flicks. Here we are 10 years later and its influence is all over the place.

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  • Vann DirasVann Diras Registered User regular
    Buttlord wrote: »
    didn't greengrass do a bunch of quick cuts in the bourne fight scenes

    he's pretty much the only person who should be allowed to do shaky cam ever

    speaking of which, saw a trailer for the new bourne movie with this

    it doesn't look NEARLY as good as supremacy/ultimatum but it has jeremy renner punchin guys and blowing things up so that's ok

    nope this is not true at all

    as for quick cuts, he made use of them some but i'm talking like

    the fight scene in the club in dark knight

    which has all three of the things i listed being used at their absolute worst

    god that scene was so shitty

  • ButtlordButtlord Fornicus Lord of Bondage and PainRegistered User regular
    wirehead26 wrote: »
    I think Greengrass was just using his filming technique that worked so well in Bloody Sunday an applying it to the Bourne franchise which was just unwise on his part.

    wait what

    the bourne sequels were fucking great

    and had a great use of shaky cam

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  • TrippyJingTrippyJing Moses supposes his toeses are roses. But Moses supposes erroneously.Registered User regular
    edited April 2012
    Alright, I watched The Raid before class.

    It

    was

    awesome.

    The only downside was that there was less than ten people in the theater, so I couldn't experience a roomful of people reacting to the more visceral parts of the movie.

    TrippyJing on
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  • Butler For Life #1Butler For Life #1 Member of Twin Club Registered User regular
    #pipe wrote: »
    Buttlord wrote: »
    also the title was basically forced on them for NA distro because there's something else called The Raid already

    Ok fine so call it The Raid: Untouchable

    or The Raid: Machete Paradise

    or The Raid: Fridge Bomb

    or anything else that makes sense.

    But it does make sense!
    Spoiler:

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  • TrippyJingTrippyJing Moses supposes his toeses are roses. But Moses supposes erroneously.Registered User regular
  • Grey GhostGrey Ghost Okay... This looks bad.Registered User regular
  • TrippyJingTrippyJing Moses supposes his toeses are roses. But Moses supposes erroneously.Registered User regular
    I understood the plot just fine. Unless simple = does not make sense somehow.

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  • ButtlordButtlord Fornicus Lord of Bondage and PainRegistered User regular
    Grey Ghost wrote: »
    TrippyJing wrote: »

    holy shit

    this felt WAY LONGER when it happened

    but this is not even the craziest fucking thing, that's
    Spoiler:

    THE RAID IS BATSHIT INSANE

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  • #pipe#pipe Cocky Stride, Musky odours Pope of Chili TownRegistered User regular
    I think I liked the Tonfa/Knife sequence the best.

    Mostly because I love Tonfa.

    but it really really bugged me when he
    Spoiler:

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  • ButtlordButtlord Fornicus Lord of Bondage and PainRegistered User regular
    #pipe wrote: »
    I think I liked the Tonfa/Knife sequence the best.

    Mostly because I love Tonfa.

    but it really really bugged me when he
    Spoiler:

    rama don't give a FUCK

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  • TrippyJingTrippyJing Moses supposes his toeses are roses. But Moses supposes erroneously.Registered User regular
    Buttlord wrote: »
    Grey Ghost wrote: »
    TrippyJing wrote: »

    holy shit

    this felt WAY LONGER when it happened

    but this is not even the craziest fucking thing, that's
    Spoiler:

    THE RAID IS BATSHIT INSANE

    Yeah, I saw it earlier today.

    And when I saw the scene again on YouTube, I was amazed to find out how long it felt as opposed to how long it actually was.

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  • ButtlordButtlord Fornicus Lord of Bondage and PainRegistered User regular
    yeah seriously it feels like five or ten minutes

    there's just so much happening

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  • TrippyJingTrippyJing Moses supposes his toeses are roses. But Moses supposes erroneously.Registered User regular
    edited April 2012
    I want a remake of Assault on Precinct 13, The Raid-style.

    It'll just be The Raid set in an abandoned police station.

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  • ButtlordButtlord Fornicus Lord of Bondage and PainRegistered User regular
    get tony jaa and the guys that did the first ong bak/chocolate to do it

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  • ButtlordButtlord Fornicus Lord of Bondage and PainRegistered User regular
    i like watching muay thai more than silat

    silat's cool and fast and shit

    but muay thai just LOOKS fuckin brutal there is no move that doesn't look like it could kill you

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  • Vann DirasVann Diras Registered User regular
    Man I love the carpenter version so much

    What a great movie

  • TrippyJingTrippyJing Moses supposes his toeses are roses. But Moses supposes erroneously.Registered User regular
    Vann Diras wrote: »
    Man I love the carpenter version so much

    What a great movie

    I just watched an interview with the director of The Raid where he explains he took some inspiration from Carpenter because they didn't really have that many extras, so to create the effect of the team being under siege, they made heavy use of sound and gunshots from behind walls and stuff to imply a large number of attackers.

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  • TrippyJingTrippyJing Moses supposes his toeses are roses. But Moses supposes erroneously.Registered User regular
    Buttlord wrote: »
    i like watching muay thai more than silat

    silat's cool and fast and shit

    but muay thai just LOOKS fuckin brutal there is no move that doesn't look like it could kill you

    Luckily, The Raid has a lot of knives. Perfect for silat.

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  • ButtlordButtlord Fornicus Lord of Bondage and PainRegistered User regular
    edited April 2012
    i don't know a lot about silat

    but isn't silat big on like angles of attack/defense and shit

    and assuming that you're Really Fucked

    because yeah that lends itself way better to a movie with a bunch of knives that muay thai would

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  • TrippyJingTrippyJing Moses supposes his toeses are roses. But Moses supposes erroneously.Registered User regular
    Buttlord wrote: »
    i don't know a lot about silat

    but isn't silat big on like angles of attack/defense and shit

    and assuming that you're Really Fucked

    because yeah that lends itself way better to a movie with a bunch of knives that muay thai would

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weapons_of_silat

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  • Johnny ChopsockyJohnny Chopsocky Scootaloo! We have to cook! Grillin' HaysenburgersRegistered User regular
    edited April 2012
    Vann Diras wrote: »
    Man I love the carpenter version so much

    What a great movie

    As remakes of 'Assault On Precinct 13' go, French remake 'The Nest' is pretty decent.


    But the Carpenter version is still the superior version.

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  • BucketmanBucketman Dyslexic Puppy Skraggle RockRegistered User regular
    Vann Diras wrote: »
    buh all my friends suck

    maybe i can get a couple to go tomorrow

    Live closer

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  • Machete MasterMachete Master Registered User
    The best action movie I've seen in a decade, indeed!

    Buttlord wrote: »
    i don't know a lot about silat

    but isn't silat big on like angles of attack/defense and shit

    It looks like it's more effective for close encounters. I still think Kungfu is the most versatile martial art. But Silat has this cool inner breathing technique (which Yayan "Mad Dog" Ruhian mastered) that he won't feel hurt at all though he get beaten up thousand times.

  • ArtreusArtreus Hamlet Registered User regular
    Guys this movie was so goddamn great. Saw it with TankHammer and QuantumTurk and the theater had beer and it was awesome.

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  • pookapooka Registered User regular
    edited April 2012
    man. man. see it while it's still in theatres, if you like martial arts or tense, violent action flicks. we were one of three in our showing.

    right now, i'm respecting it more than liking it -- too visceral at the moment -- but damn, it is well-made. good pacing, action, acting, music, and a perfectly serviceable plot with some clever moments. just... unrelentingly brutal, mostly (...mostly) realistic violence.

    pooka on
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  • Vann DirasVann Diras Registered User regular
    how is that scene 2 minutes long

    how

    seriously that is just ridiculous, it feels like at least 10

  • FutoreFutore Registered User regular
    there were so many moments when our theater would all YOOOOO together and laugh and things. A big YOOO that everyone did together that hasn't been mentioned yet is when
    Spoiler:

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