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[Dota 2] Nyx Assassin, Keeper of the Light, and Visage this week, and straight to CM.
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When you're blocking you can intentionally let a single creep out ahead. The ideal would be the ranged creep, but any will work. The point is that a single creep will be focused by all the enemy creeps, while if your entire wave arrives at the same time they will be targeted evenly. The single creep will die very quickly, giving you an easy deny and pushing the lane toward your tower. This is best for your long lane, because you want that to be counter-pushed as much as possible. In the short lane you don't really need to block that much at all, though you can still let the ranged creep go first. Even works mid.
mandatory?
yeah I've just started doing this with the ranged creep.
Someone posted a dota1 video of some pro player playing pugna and showing how to lane against shadowfiend. It was REALLY informative. And he showed how important blocking is in real pro games. Looked at replays and showed how blocking just lead to complete lane dominance.
5 carries in pub games is very doable because shutting carries down requires teamwork and competence--pubs dont have that. To get 5 men together to push towers down against a team of 5 carries is tough to coordinate. Someone always wants to farm a lane or the jungle or whatever. It's very easy to fall to 5 carries. Maybe not 5 super hard carries, but carries? It happens, and I hate it more than anything.
just want to hand holding/jumping right in advice. inky i will hit you up
Same here. Also, join the PennyArcade chat channel in game. There's almost always games going, and everyone I've played with so far is very friendly and forgiving. They are also very helpful and happy to answer questions in game.
Some people say randoming your hero is the way to go, that way you get a chance to learn everyone and aren't hampered by playing the same heroes repeatedly. I think starting with one or two heroes you are comfortable is the better route to go. You can spend less time worrying about what your hero does and spend more time learning about the universal mechanics of the game (easy lane vs. hard lane, last hitting, denies, neutral creeps, runes, etc.).
yea, that is exactly what i am looking for. though i might not be able to play until sunday at least since my inlaws are in town so computer time is limited
I've been seeing all carry teams a lot more lately. It makes sense in low skill pub queues because 5 carry teams can push the shit out towers if they group up. And once they get a lead going, it's very difficult to stop. It's like once that Ursa gets his vlad, if he's smart he's going straight to Rosh for the Aegis, and then they can usually make a straight push to your rax because Ursa is so gnarly to deal with mid game. And to fight it means not feeding early kills, effective rune warding, and keeping lanes pushed, something that yep...takes coordination.
I don't see a problem with this. I mean, as long as you don't hate them for not speaking english
I don't hate them for being from a primarily non-English speaking country, I just hate that they aren't speaking English on US servers. I mean, if they can't speak English, that's one thing. It isn't my place to tell them they can't play this game because they don't speak my language. It's when they can speak English but refuse to, even when there are usually at least two or three people on the team who only speak English.
I would never hate someone because of their race or nationality, ever. I just don't want our team to be at an automatic disadvantage because we can't communicate properly.
Right, I was mostly making a joke. Your post was obviously not racist
Definitely. Pings can mean so many different things, too:
- Attack
- Enemy is here, beware
- Come here so we can gank
And I didn't think you were calling me out.
We had a guy in an LoL game I was playing the other night that refused to speak English, but it was obvious he could understand it (when we would say something, he would follow the plan/order), but he would just spam pings around the map rather than typing out something to us....even if it's broken English, it's better than nothing!
Grah! I have to go to class, but all I wanna do is Dotuhhhh!!!
yup!
also, everyone wants to play a carry, and with good reason! You have all the fun and none of the responsibility. Your job is to farm and take kills. That's fun!
The supports job is completely and utterly unrewarding in a pub because its completely selfless: buy wards, buy courier, make it fly, avoid getting farm, avoid getting kills, babysit... its horrid! and then lategame you're 10 levels lower than everyone and getting two shot by the BKBed carry. Why would you do that for a team who can't appreciate it or won't take advantage of it? Fuck that! I'm not suffering so some 13 year old asshole who is going to yell at me can farm his terrible build.
man nothing does as much to make me racist/xenophobic as playing MOBAs with foreigners. and they're ALWAYS bad. ALWAYS. One time in a hundred you get that well oiled team of Brazilians, but 99/100 time brazilians, russians, whoever, they're AWFUL. Maybe its just their lack of teamwork, but they're horrendous. Almost uniformly. Its much better in dota2 than in HoN. I'm over getting mad at them, I just roll with it now, but goddamn were they terrible in HoN.
i live in brazil so i know what you are talking about, the reason you get so many latin americans in the us servers is because you cant find games for shit in the latin american servers. i see how this can be frustrating but just try asking them to communicate in english a lot of us know at least basic english.
anyways i also wanted to ask: do you play with auto attacking on or off? i heard purge say something about turning it off in a video.
also i dont know if its just me but spirit breaker seems to have an AWFUL attack animation, so hard to last hit with him.
Though, I guess Purges way is better for what I am doing. If I could turn auto-attack off, there is no need for S-spam....yeah, I am turning it off when I get home. I basically use S-spam to get the same effect. Don't move, don't attack, just stand there until I am ready to unleash an attack.
SBs attack animation is funky, but he does SO much damage it shouldnt matter.
I run around in little circles till im ready to autoattack. no turning autoattack off in dot1 and I never got into spamming stop for some reason. I think its a matter of personal preference?
That said, if running back and forth is what you are comfy with, I'd just keep it.
not being able to play dotes and only watch it sucks T.T
S is stop in league of legends too. It just doesn't automatically attempt to restart your attack like it does in Dota2. If you turn off auto attack S will behave the same in both LoL and Dota.
Watching guys like Demon is fun, too, but he is as quiet as a church mouse when he plays.
can one team have a hero from the dire and the radiant or is it limited to whatever side you are on?
You can have heroes from both on the same team. Its not segregated in game.
but allpick and other modes that aren't sidelocked are popular (rarely if ever see normal pick in wc3, not even in dota2) and better and so the game became designed around those instead