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A Thread About Movies

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  • AstaerethAstaereth Registered User regular
    This post, in my mind, is the last word on the Descendants.
    The Descendants is not the worst movie ever made, but it may be the most subversive, and if you think it is one of the best you need to rethink your life choices.

    @Xenogear, hey, fair enough. When I was asking questions I was actually asking questions, because I'm not sure how I feel about movies like Fear and Loathing (although I do know I dislike Fear and Loathing). Productive conversation was had, more thinking will have to be done?

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  • AtomikaAtomika Hypercritical Queen Bitch of Cinema Registered User regular
    edited April 2012
    Astaereth wrote: »
    The Descendants is not the worst movie ever made, but it may be the most subversive, and if you think it is one of the best you need to rethink your life choices.

    There was a review someone here linked to that summed this up very nicely. I'll try to look for it when I get home.

    As for its subversiveness, I'm not sure I agree. I think Payne made exactly the kind of film most people think they saw, I just think anyone who liked it for those reasons are indeed horrible, horrible people.

    If he was being subversive, I mean . . . goddamn.


    EDIT: Sorry, Asty, you already posted that link. Good work.

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  • AstaerethAstaereth Registered User regular
    edited April 2012
    yepyep!

    I think TLP meant subversive as in, at face value, this is a movie about a dude who loves, then loses his wife, but learns to be a better parent in the process. When in actuality the movie is about a dude who's a terrible husband, then loses his wife, and doesn't learn anything in the process. (spoiler alert?)

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  • AtomikaAtomika Hypercritical Queen Bitch of Cinema Registered User regular
    Astaereth wrote: »
    yepyep!

    I think TLP meant subversive as in, at face value, this is a movie about a dude who loves, then loses his wife, but learns to be a better parent in the process. When in actuality the movie is about a dude who's a terrible husband, then loses his wife, and doesn't learn anything in the process. (spoiler alert?)

    Worse, it's about a guy who goes through all of that and THINKS he's become a better parent, but actually fails to even realize how big an entitled dickbag he still is and how awful a parent he continues to be.

  • CantidoCantido Registered User regular
    Man, I just found out The Hobbit is two movies.

    Here's hoping it gets the tweens reading The Hobbit.

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  • AtomikaAtomika Hypercritical Queen Bitch of Cinema Registered User regular
    Cantido wrote: »
    Man, I just found out The Hobbit is two movies.

    Man, I have a thread and everything for this. Where have you been?

  • valhalla130valhalla130 Od's blood Sailing a longshipRegistered User regular
    Astaereth wrote: »
    My thoughts on Cabin in the Woods:
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    About one of your points:
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  • AstaerethAstaereth Registered User regular
    Astaereth wrote: »
    My thoughts on Cabin in the Woods:
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    About one of your points:
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    No;
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  • rational vashrational vash Registered User
    Astaereth wrote: »
    Astaereth wrote: »
    My thoughts on Cabin in the Woods:
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    About one of your points:
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    No;
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  • MentalExerciseMentalExercise Indefenestrable Registered User regular
    Astaereth wrote: »
    This post, in my mind, is the last word on the Descendants.

    I've gotta say, I coudn't even get through that article. The author might have had some good points to make, but he's got bad ADHD. He jumps into things he's only going to discuss later or leaves thoughts half finished. He fails to give any clear reference or context and barely elaborates on any of his claims. Blech.

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  • VariableVariable Ted Hitler Stroke Me Lady FameRegistered User regular
    edited April 2012
    edit wrong thread

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  • AManFromEarthAManFromEarth Their ideas are old and their ideas are bad. The King in the SwampRegistered User regular
    edited April 2012
    ...this isn't the chat thread

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  • UnknownSaintUnknownSaint Registered User
    Maybe it was a movie reference you just didn't get.

  • AManFromEarthAManFromEarth Their ideas are old and their ideas are bad. The King in the SwampRegistered User regular
    No, I thought this was the chat thread so I said something silly, then edited it away when I realized how silly that was.

    And by silly, I mean stupid.

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  • AutoimmuneAutoimmune Registered User regular
    Astaereth wrote: »
    Astaereth wrote: »
    My thoughts on Cabin in the Woods:
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    About one of your points:
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    No;
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    It's a tricky balance, though. Because if they hadn't foreshadowed the way they did, it would've felt way too out of nowhere. But yeah, I agree, I was just waiting for it to happen.

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  • LavaKnightLavaKnight Registered User regular
    Astaereth wrote: »
    This post, in my mind, is the last word on the Descendants.

    I've gotta say, I coudn't even get through that article. The author might have had some good points to make, but he's got bad ADHD. He jumps into things he's only going to discuss later or leaves thoughts half finished. He fails to give any clear reference or context and barely elaborates on any of his claims. Blech.

    It was written in an interesting style, for sure, and at times the author did tangentialize a little too much, but I thought the strategy of quoting the imaginary readers/writer/whomever was an effective if unorthodox way of bringing up concrete arguments.

    Thanks for bringing it up, Ast and Atomic Ross. I'm glad to understand exactly why I didn't like the movie even though it was trying its hardest into manipulating us into liking it.

  • DiannaoChongDiannaoChong Registered User regular
    Deadfall wrote: »
    I watched Inception over the weekend, for the first time since it was in theaters (so second time overall).

    Not gonna lie, for me that's just about a flawless movie. I'm no expert on visual art in the slightest, but I was completely entertained for every moment.

    And the music and sound, just amazing. How the "get ready to wake up music" with its repeating two horn notes was slowed down throughout the entire movie just blew me away, as I'd never noticed that before.

    Yep, I like Inception.

    It's been 5 pages.... don't hurt me. I felt like there was a major hole dealing with the mcguffin of the totem, and theres nothing either way to tell if we just have to accept it, or if we are supposed to question it. And if we are supposed to question it, I think the entire movie falls apart. Alot of the film deals with the subtlety (or not so much with the train) of your subconscious effecting the dream world they were in. A totem is something only you know about in the dream world, so noone can trick you into thinking its reality. But your subconscious could easily manipulate the totem (in this case, the top) to fall over while you willed it to keep spinning, thus tricking yourself into being stuck in the dream world. But I also think that if this was the case, we would of seen the top fall over in the ending and everyone would of had a much different discussion.

    I also talked to alot of people who said they hated the fact that the smash through the bridge wasn't the jolt, "it wasn't hard enough" wasn't good enough for them. I was willing to let that one go.

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  • TychoCelchuuuTychoCelchuuu ___________PIGEON _________San Diego, CA Registered User regular
    Inception has almost as many plot holes as the newest Star Trek movie but that doesn't mean it's not fantastic. I'm not sure about your point, though: the totem would at least tell you whether you're in someone else's dream, so we should at least accept it as useful for that purpose.

  • AManFromEarthAManFromEarth Their ideas are old and their ideas are bad. The King in the SwampRegistered User regular
    The totem was supposed to be so you could tell if you're in someone else's dream iirc. I don't think they ever pretended it'd be useful in your own dream.

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  • OtakuD00DOtakuD00D Too stupid to feel pain. San DiegoRegistered User regular
    Saw Lockout today. I thought it was a hilarious throwback to 80's action movies. It was Die Hard + Con Air... IN SPAAAAAAAAACE

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  • ThomamelasThomamelas Bro!Registered User regular
    OtakuD00D wrote: »
    Saw Lockout today. I thought it was a hilarious throwback to 80's action movies. It was Die Hard + Con Air... IN SPAAAAAAAAACE

    All it needed was someone telling Snow they thought he was dead and it would have been Escape from New York In Space!

  • OtakuD00DOtakuD00D Too stupid to feel pain. San DiegoRegistered User regular
    Thomamelas wrote: »
    OtakuD00D wrote: »
    Saw Lockout today. I thought it was a hilarious throwback to 80's action movies. It was Die Hard + Con Air... IN SPAAAAAAAAACE

    All it needed was someone telling Snow they thought he was dead and it would have been Escape from New York In Space!
    The monobike chase at the start was easily the worst CGI I've seen in a very long time, and I loved every second of it.

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  • AutoimmuneAutoimmune Registered User regular
    The totem was supposed to be so you could tell if you're in someone else's dream iirc. I don't think they ever pretended it'd be useful in your own dream.

    Exactly. If it's your dream, you can control the dream to a certain extent, so you would know that way. And the whole point of a totem is to not know what another person's totem is supposed to do. No one knows what side Arthur's weighted die will land on except him.

    What I DO think is kind of a goof is the fact that Cobb explains the totem to Ariadne, which is exactly what he's not supposed to do for the totem to work. But hey, it was necessary for us to understand it, and you could argue he decided to trust her or whatever.

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  • DeadfallDeadfall Registered User regular
    edited April 2012
    Saw Cabin. I loved it because it was basically
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  • AstaerethAstaereth Registered User regular
    Deadfall wrote: »
    Saw Cabin. I loved it because it was basically
    Spoiler:

    YES

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  • DeadfallDeadfall Registered User regular
    Astaereth wrote: »
    Deadfall wrote: »
    Saw Cabin. I loved it because it was basically
    Spoiler:

    YES
    I would be absolutely thrilled if they
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  • TomantaTomanta Registered User regular
    Deadfall wrote: »
    Astaereth wrote: »
    Deadfall wrote: »
    Saw Cabin. I loved it because it was basically
    Spoiler:

    YES
    I would be absolutely thrilled if they
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    I'm thinking
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  • TehSpectreTehSpectre @PixelateJake on TwitterRegistered User regular
    Tomanta wrote: »
    Deadfall wrote: »
    Astaereth wrote: »
    Deadfall wrote: »
    Saw Cabin. I loved it because it was basically
    Spoiler:

    YES
    I would be absolutely thrilled if they
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    I'm thinking
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    Not enough anthology love, nowadays.

    Though, V/H/S is coming out at some point this year.

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  • Mad King GeorgeMad King George Registered User regular
    Why would you want a prequel when you know how it ends?

  • VariableVariable Ted Hitler Stroke Me Lady FameRegistered User regular
    that's almost more words than if you just said it

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  • MalReynoldsMalReynolds The Hunter S Thompson of incredibly mild medicines Registered User regular
    edited April 2012
    Why would you want a prequel when you know how it ends?

    Something something journey something something destination.

    EDIT: Just so I'm not being a totally glib goosefaced mothergooser, are you opposed to 'The Hobbit' films? We do know what becomes of Bilbo and the ring.

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  • Mad King GeorgeMad King George Registered User regular
    Why would you want a prequel when you know how it ends?

    Something something journey something something destination.

    Anyone who wants a prequel to a film like Cabin in the Woods has missed the point of Cabin in the Woods.

  • MalReynoldsMalReynolds The Hunter S Thompson of incredibly mild medicines Registered User regular
    edited April 2012
    Why would you want a prequel when you know how it ends?

    Something something journey something something destination.

    Anyone who wants a prequel to a film like Cabin in the Woods has missed the point of Cabin in the Woods.

    No.

    Not really.

    Huuuuge movie spoiler:
    Spoiler:

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    "Readers who prefer tension and romance, Maledictions: The Offering, delivers... As serious YA fiction, I’ll give it five stars out of five. As a novel? Four and a half." - Liz Ellor
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  • Harry DresdenHarry Dresden Registered User regular
    Why would you want a prequel when you know how it ends?

    Something something journey something something destination.

    Anyone who wants a prequel to a film like Cabin in the Woods has missed the point of Cabin in the Woods.

    No.

    Not really.

    Huuuuge movie spoiler:
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    Yes.

    Yeah really.
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  • Mad King GeorgeMad King George Registered User regular
    Why would you want a prequel when you know how it ends?

    Something something journey something something destination.

    Anyone who wants a prequel to a film like Cabin in the Woods has missed the point of Cabin in the Woods.

    No.

    Not really.

    Huuuuge movie spoiler:
    Spoiler:

    Yes.

    Yeah really.
    Spoiler:

  • Mad King GeorgeMad King George Registered User regular
    Why would you want a prequel when you know how it ends?

    Something something journey something something destination.

    Anyone who wants a prequel to a film like Cabin in the Woods has missed the point of Cabin in the Woods.

    No.

    Not really.

    Huuuuge movie spoiler:
    Spoiler:

    Yes.

    Yeah really.
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    Uh, Jason was a kid who drowned while inattentive goobers made out and smoked pot.

    Ash and his friends stumbled on a recording of the book of the dead.

    Them's the origins.

  • Harry DresdenHarry Dresden Registered User regular
    Why would you want a prequel when you know how it ends?

    Something something journey something something destination.

    Anyone who wants a prequel to a film like Cabin in the Woods has missed the point of Cabin in the Woods.

    No.

    Not really.

    Huuuuge movie spoiler:
    Spoiler:

    Yes.

    Yeah really.
    Spoiler:
    Spoiler:

    Uh, Jason was a kid who drowned while inattentive goobers made out and smoked pot.

    Ash and his friends stumbled on a recording of the book of the dead.

    Them's the origins.
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  • Mad King GeorgeMad King George Registered User regular
    Spoiler:

    So you want an origin of the
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  • KalTorakKalTorak Registered User regular
    why don't we have a Cabin thread?

  • TychoCelchuuuTychoCelchuuu ___________PIGEON _________San Diego, CA Registered User regular
    Because then people who haven't seen it could have fun in this thread talking about any other film!

    In other news, if anyone with Netflix is looking for some fun stuff to stream, I just watched Withnail & I the other day and that was pretty great.

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