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If you want a jungle to gank your lane you want to ensure them that gank is going to work. This means tracking where the enemy is warding, your/their summoners status, ults, etc. If my top lane just says "need a gank top jungle" I'm not nearly as motivated compared to them saying "no ward river, my ignite up, their ult down". That statement doesn't even ask for a gank explicitly, but it'll get you one far more often. Also if you just need your lane covered instead of a gank just ask for that. The jungle then knows they will at least get a few creeps and can approach from a quick safe route.
Take a look at flat cdr blues, then say that to me again with a straight face.
I jungle WW quite often and usually start off with boots and 1 pot, because that's all I need to be at full health at the end of my route. If I see a lane pushed I will go gank, but usually I just go back and start on my wriggles. It's by far my best champ in ranked. I take him top too, and build him very similar to jungle. Except I don't usually get wriggles when I'm top. Depending on my matchup (AD or magic damage) i'll either go Wit's End first or Glacial Shroud. I always get sorc boots for those Qs! Especially when my team needs more magic damage.
I just realized you can hit 40% cdr with just boots if you make an entire page devoted to running out of mana quicker
I do this a lot top, Basically just have more communication, ward their tribush, use a pink ward to clear out the river ward if they place one, call out when their flash/ult/ignite is down etc.
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A majority of the time, the jungler is just living in his jungle and not even attempting to gank other lanes. Every time I point it out, he yells at me and then tries to tell me that I'm bad at something.
Also, most of the time this happens, I'm in bot lane which I'll agree, is warded very often. But if they're pushed to the tower at all times, the jungler should be able to get in position, especially if I or the support slows one of them.
Sounds like you have bad junglers. Generally, junglers should be looking for opportunities to gank and with some try and create opportunities. If you want to gank bot, it's entirely possible to gank bot. Unless you're a useless jungler.
That being said, stand by my previous statement: "Free kill in lane" is a very good way of grabbing a jungler's attention. As is 'Need gank, losing lane', but that one assumes a reasonable, competent jungler. To be honest, I think the really good junglers generally have a decent idea about lane-match-ups, so they know when to apply some pressure.
I like the "Free kill in lane" idea. Gives the proper information while not sounding so aggressive. Unless it does end up being a bad jungler who works on their own agenda.
To be fair, I have been a jungler that just never ends up ganking bot, but that was mostly because other lanes were much easier to gank, and when I happened to be bot farming the jungle creeps, there was no opening to gank bot lane.
As a jungler, if your bot lane is losing hard, do you try to salvage it by babysitting or give up on it to allow the other lanes to maybe have a chance?
without being dead a lot.
Giving up on bot lane is asking for a world of hurt if the enemy team can protect their carry. It is going to be a long, long time before your carry can catch up once the other carry has an advantage in bot lane.
^This.
Unless you like to make things harder for yourself than you have to, you should do what you can to prevent their bot lane from getting too far ahead of your own. Of course, some times the solution is to get the assassin in another lane as fed as you can.
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Get a buddy to play Garen.
Pretend to be AD carry + support in champ select, then switch at the last second.
W level 1
R > Q > W > E
Sit in bushes and co-ordinate with your buddy to combo up anyone who comes into range of Q.
It's basically the strongest kill lane in the game.
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No because at this point shipping the stealth remake would have the side effect of making it impossible to buy IE, Amp Tome, and green wards.
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I think that list is very close to being spot on. I would have Lee after Mundo, and Nocturne after Udyr, but otherwise that's a pretty accurate list.
I don't like how low Sejuani is but I would only move her up like two or three spots so I feel like it's nitpicking.
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I was not aware that Jungle Malphite was a thing. Has it always been a thing? Or did they change up Malphite significantly?
Also: I'm tired of being the douchebag in Solo Queue that chooses a carry and then proceeds to not carry. I kinda want to jungle, but gut is telling me that that's my sissy ass trying to stay safe in the jungle. What are some good bottom lane beefcakes nowadays that love to nom on things and in general just fuck up other people's days? I imagine Alistar is still pretty good at that? I always liked Maokai but I don't hear about him a lot anymore, so maybe trip-Doran'sRing-delight doesn't work anymore?
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It mostly depends on how bad it is. In general we're talking about ranged AD who can farm from a pretty safe distance and a 0cs support, so your presence could very likely mean jack and squat if they're strong enough to keep you from tower diving them and you can't reposition them. I'll definitely pay more attention to bottom if it starts going bad, but if their carry gets fed 3 or 4 kills for free because your bot doesn't know what they're doing than babysitting or ganking will usually just mean giving up a triple kill. If a support gets lots of assist gold it also means they're going to have plenty of wards and probably an oracles. If they try pushing the turret then I'll have a go or at least walk into river to take some pressure off.
Yeah, he's pretty great, he's got solid aoe damage and so much survivability that before long jungle creeps do ~0 damage to you between armor, your passive, and the attack speed reduction on your e. His ult is really good when it actually hits and his move speed debuff is pretty strong too.
The jungle is not for the thin skinned or fragile of mind. You gotta be awesome. You have to realize that somehow, even though you went 3/1/4 as Riven, your team will find a way to fuck everything up forever and still lose.
To be fair our team comp was god awful that game.
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Amumu is still a teamfight master. His ganks are solid, and his only real weakness is that his clear is slow and vulnerble. If you have a team that is competent and protective, amumu can absolutely take over games. I have been pleasantly surprised more than once by a free jungling amumu since the changes. He's still an amazing jungler, but in solo queue, where your team barely understands what laning is, he isn't that great, since no one protects your jungler ever.
Then because nobody can focus the cait (who is still behind on damage thanks to not farming) or do anything about akali jumping on me, it's "gg bad bot."
If I can't carry a team with sivir I just can't carry the team.
The thing about Amumu is even if you invade and take his blue at level 1 and put him behind, all Amumu has to do is get level six to contribute to teamfights and the late game. He doesn't need items to bandage toss and ult, and the ult does 2 seconds of stun at all ranks so it's not like he's really losing out by being underleveled.
He doesn't need items or anything to do the job people take him to do, which is why a lot of supporting/utility junglers work so well. Characters like Sejuani, Maokai, Malphite, and Amumu don't need their jungle to go gangbusters to help their team. Granted, doing well early on certainly helps, but they can always fall back on "oh well I can initiate on things and provide CC." Carry junglers can become real irrelevant real fucking fast if they get behind. Try ganking as Riven or Lee Sin if you're three or more levels down. You'll just die depending on who/where you're ganking.
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