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Legend of Korra: PANIC!!!! Episode 4 Is Uploaded!!!!

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  • BroloBrolo Broseidon Lord of the BroceanRegistered User regular
    Rolo wrote: »
    Rolo wrote: »
    Rolo wrote: »
    I could see why you think the Lion Turtle thing came out of nowhere if you think that Azula wasn't well on her way to a breakdown because of her outright sociopathic tendencies.

    I'd ask you why you think the Lion Turtle and Energy Bending didn't come out of nowhere but you'd talk about the Lion Turtle being in the background/ Spirits helped the Avatar before and that misses the point of the criticism.

    And really whats the point?

    I'd say it fits right in thematically because Aang's entire story is about reconciling his own nature with that of the avatar, and he has always had to find his own path to the avatar state that fits within his ethos.

    That's why he ran away and got trapped in the iceberg, that's why he had so much difficulty unlocking his chakras and the avatar state, that's why he had to come up with his own way of getting past the seemingly impassible barrier of achieving peace without killing the firelord. In the first situation he reacts by running away, in the second he tries to work through it but fails, in his final test he transcends the expectations of him and relies on his own strength, his connection to the spirit world, to overcome the situation.

    They pretty much give all of this to you when Aang is learning to earthbend - it's not at all in his personality to confront directly. "Maybe there's another way... what if I came at the boulder from another angle?"

    See I agree with this. I think this whole learning energy bending idea works great for Aang's story but I think he should have had to seek it out. I don't think the Lion Turtle should have come to Aang and apparently mind-controlled him into getting on the his back.

    And I don't like that the Lion Turtle's motivations are completely speculative which would not be an issue if it had been Aang that sought him out.

    I don't really have a problem with the Lion Turtle being unexplained when it's an inherently mystical and mythological being. If they explained everything about "the spirit world" it would just be "the regular world".

    But he's just a animal that can bend. Like the Bison or dragons but much, much older and his actions are strange.

    I don't think you can really call the lion turtle "just an animal that can bend". He says himself "In the era before the Avatar, we bent not the elements, but the energy within ourselves..."

    It's the oldest living creature in the Avatar universe, and exists in both the spirit and the real world, and is as close as is revealed to being a god.







  • Skull ManSkull Man Registered User regular
    Skull Man, you are not as right as you think you are. And the fact that you don't back up what you're saying makes you just as bad as pony, who makes up points to argue against, or buttlord, who has the reading comprehension of a small child.

    And then you follow up by saying "I'd rather act like a twat than just ignore you" and are gleefully proud of this.

    I've been backing my arugments up for two days. I'm tired of it.

  • Twenty SidedTwenty Sided Registered User regular
    edited April 2012
    TrippyJing wrote: »
    Travel into the Spirit World to find a way to restore her bending. Find out there must be a price.

    Tenzin gives up his bending to restore Korra.

    Meh. Too cheesy. It fails to play into key themes or establish Korra's growth. It's melodrama.

    Twenty Sided on
  • Butler For Life #1Butler For Life #1 Member of Twin Club Registered User regular
    Munkus

    it's ludicrous to claim somebody lacks basic reading comprehension because they do not concur with you about a children's show

    even if they are misunderstanding things (not sure if he is, I haven't read the posts you're referring to)

    that's a bit over the top

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  • Cilla BlackCilla Black Registered User regular
    NeoToma wrote: »
    Seriously wrote: »
    lightning seems to work
    Well yea, that's true.

    I was thinking about end of series Aang Avatar State, not before he got the hang of it(like Korra will most likely have to learn) Avatar state.

    He never got the hang of the Avatar state. He was not in control of it at all. He was shooting to kill on Ozai and almost Executed him during the state until he turned it off.

    So, I just finished up rewatching this series, and some thoughts on this point Munkus. TLA spoilers follow
    Spoiler:

    Also after watching this, some general thoughts on Amon and the most recent episode of Korra. (spoilers as well for that)
    Spoiler:

  • ronzoronzo Registered User regular
    pretty sure the rest of us are tired of reading this bullshit

    not just those three people

  • BugBoyBugBoy I like big bugs and I cannot lieRegistered User regular
    we've got a couple masters of pedantry bending, a couple masters of jerk bending, and a few idiotbenders

    the rest of us get to be horrified silence benders

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  • -Tal-Tal I'm just not there Life's just not fairRegistered User regular
    can't we just go back to debating the merits of the current Dalai Lama

    or perhaps whether or not eagles can wear rings

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  • BlueBlueBlueBlue Registered User regular
    Munkus

    it's ludicrous to claim somebody lacks basic reading comprehension because they do not concur with you about a children's show

    even if they are misunderstanding things (not sure if he is, I haven't read the posts you're referring to)

    that's a bit over the top

    nah that's regarding the pages upon pages of discussion of the meaning of "hyperbole"

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  • JavenJaven Registered User regular
    edited April 2012
    Seriously wrote: »
    balerbower wrote: »
    ya know that actually sounds like a very plausible theory for what's going to be a major plot point in legend of korra
    Spoiler:

    I have been thinking this

    Yeah, I'm inclined to agree
    Spoiler:

    Javen on
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  • NerdgasmicNerdgasmic __BANNED USERS regular
    edited April 2012
    Munkus

    it's ludicrous to claim somebody lacks basic reading comprehension because they do not concur with you about a children's show

    even if they are misunderstanding things (not sure if he is, I haven't read the posts you're referring to)

    that's a bit over the top

    I think he's talking more about the hyperbole thing with regards to Buttlord

    Nerdgasmic on
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  • SeriouslySeriously ˈpɛrɪ ˌdɒt Registered User regular
    like I'm sure that as soon as ty lee wasn't evil aang pounced on her and was like YOU MUST TEACH ME

    true he had energy bending but does he really have five minutes of glowy battling of wills to waste every time he needs to incapacitate some mook?


    and then they went off and got married and had lots of babies and

    oh whoops wandered into my aang lee fanfic again

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  • crwthcrwth IDIOT NEWS Registered User regular
    Javen wrote: »
    Seriously wrote: »
    balerbower wrote: »
    ya know that actually sounds like a very plausible theory for what's going to be a major plot point in legend of korra
    Spoiler:

    I have been thinking this

    Yeah, I'm inclined to agree
    Spoiler:
    Spoiler:

  • Twenty SidedTwenty Sided Registered User regular
    edited April 2012
    Rolo wrote: »
    Rolo wrote: »
    Rolo wrote: »
    Rolo wrote: »
    I could see why you think the Lion Turtle thing came out of nowhere if you think that Azula wasn't well on her way to a breakdown because of her outright sociopathic tendencies.

    I'd ask you why you think the Lion Turtle and Energy Bending didn't come out of nowhere but you'd talk about the Lion Turtle being in the background/ Spirits helped the Avatar before and that misses the point of the criticism.

    And really whats the point?

    I'd say it fits right in thematically because Aang's entire story is about reconciling his own nature with that of the avatar, and he has always had to find his own path to the avatar state that fits within his ethos.

    That's why he ran away and got trapped in the iceberg, that's why he had so much difficulty unlocking his chakras and the avatar state, that's why he had to come up with his own way of getting past the seemingly impassible barrier of achieving peace without killing the firelord. In the first situation he reacts by running away, in the second he tries to work through it but fails, in his final test he transcends the expectations of him and relies on his own strength, his connection to the spirit world, to overcome the situation.

    They pretty much give all of this to you when Aang is learning to earthbend - it's not at all in his personality to confront directly. "Maybe there's another way... what if I came at the boulder from another angle?"

    See I agree with this. I think this whole learning energy bending idea works great for Aang's story but I think he should have had to seek it out. I don't think the Lion Turtle should have come to Aang and apparently mind-controlled him into getting on the his back.

    And I don't like that the Lion Turtle's motivations are completely speculative which would not be an issue if it had been Aang that sought him out.

    I don't really have a problem with the Lion Turtle being unexplained when it's an inherently mystical and mythological being. If they explained everything about "the spirit world" it would just be "the regular world".

    But he's just a animal that can bend. Like the Bison or dragons but much, much older and his actions are strange.

    I don't think you can really call the lion turtle "just an animal that can bend". He says himself "In the era before the Avatar, we bent not the elements, but the energy within ourselves..."

    It's the oldest living creature in the Avatar universe, and exists in both the spirit and the real world, and is as close as is revealed to being a god.
    Demi-god. It's wonderful word. It implies immense power but with all the advantages of being a mortal being with a personality and an actual relationship to the material world without necessarily being omniscient and annoying perfect.

    It's like what happened with dragons in fantasy. One moment, they're carnal engines of mass destruction and now they're these wise and and well-regarded race of godlike beings. Which is stupid. I want my Beowulf dragons back.

    Twenty Sided on
  • BroloBrolo Broseidon Lord of the BroceanRegistered User regular
    in actuality the next two seasons of the show are about Korra planning a secret fire nation dance party


  • JavenJaven Registered User regular
    NeoToma wrote: »
    Seriously wrote: »
    lightning seems to work
    Well yea, that's true.

    I was thinking about end of series Aang Avatar State, not before he got the hang of it(like Korra will most likely have to learn) Avatar state.

    He never got the hang of the Avatar state. He was not in control of it at all. He was shooting to kill on Ozai and almost Executed him during the state until he turned it off.

    So, I just finished up rewatching this series, and some thoughts on this point Munkus. TLA spoilers follow
    Spoiler:

    Also after watching this, some general thoughts on Amon and the most recent episode of Korra. (spoilers as well for that)
    Spoiler:

    I took it as
    Spoiler:

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  • I Win SwordfightsI Win Swordfights fuck tough be coolRegistered User regular
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  • NerdgasmicNerdgasmic __BANNED USERS regular
    uh, ty lee obviously ended up marrying haku

    come on, seriously

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  • ronzoronzo Registered User regular
    Also after watching this, some general thoughts on Amon and the most recent episode of Korra. (spoilers as well for that)
    Spoiler:
    Spoiler:

  • Twenty SidedTwenty Sided Registered User regular
    Munkus

    it's ludicrous to claim somebody lacks basic reading comprehension because they do not concur with you about a children's show

    even if they are misunderstanding things (not sure if he is, I haven't read the posts you're referring to)

    that's a bit over the top
    You can't judge reading comprehension skills based on what other people write?

  • balerbowerbalerbower Registered User regular
    crwth wrote: »
    Javen wrote: »
    Seriously wrote: »
    balerbower wrote: »
    ya know that actually sounds like a very plausible theory for what's going to be a major plot point in legend of korra
    Spoiler:

    I have been thinking this

    Yeah, I'm inclined to agree
    Spoiler:
    Spoiler:
    Spoiler:

  • -Tal-Tal I'm just not there Life's just not fairRegistered User regular
    crwth wrote: »
    Javen wrote: »
    Seriously wrote: »
    balerbower wrote: »
    ya know that actually sounds like a very plausible theory for what's going to be a major plot point in legend of korra
    Spoiler:

    I have been thinking this

    Yeah, I'm inclined to agree
    Spoiler:
    Spoiler:
    Spoiler:

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  • Cilla BlackCilla Black Registered User regular
    Javen wrote: »
    NeoToma wrote: »
    Seriously wrote: »
    lightning seems to work
    Well yea, that's true.

    I was thinking about end of series Aang Avatar State, not before he got the hang of it(like Korra will most likely have to learn) Avatar state.

    He never got the hang of the Avatar state. He was not in control of it at all. He was shooting to kill on Ozai and almost Executed him during the state until he turned it off.

    So, I just finished up rewatching this series, and some thoughts on this point Munkus. TLA spoilers follow
    Spoiler:

    Also after watching this, some general thoughts on Amon and the most recent episode of Korra. (spoilers as well for that)
    Spoiler:

    I took it as
    Spoiler:

    True
    Spoiler:

  • BroloBrolo Broseidon Lord of the BroceanRegistered User regular
    balerbower wrote: »
    crwth wrote: »
    Javen wrote: »
    Seriously wrote: »
    balerbower wrote: »
    ya know that actually sounds like a very plausible theory for what's going to be a major plot point in legend of korra
    Spoiler:

    I have been thinking this

    Yeah, I'm inclined to agree
    Spoiler:
    Spoiler:
    Spoiler:

    she then decides to hold a SECRET FIRE NATION DANCE PARTY

  • BroloBrolo Broseidon Lord of the BroceanRegistered User regular
  • HarrierHarrier Registered User regular
    edited April 2012
    Also can we say flat-out that Ty Lee had Air Nomad blood in her? Because Ikki and Jinora look just like her.

    Harrier on
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  • SeriouslySeriously ˈpɛrɪ ˌdɒt Registered User regular
    actually I think it's pretty clear that all the kyoshi warriors married sokka all at once

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  • Butler For Life #1Butler For Life #1 Member of Twin Club Registered User regular
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    Seriously wrote: »
    actually I think it's pretty clear that all the kyoshi warriors married sokka all at once

    Does that include Tai Lee?

    But then how does Aang Lee work?

    I'm getting so confused

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  • NerdgasmicNerdgasmic __BANNED USERS regular
    balerbower wrote: »
    crwth wrote: »
    Javen wrote: »
    Seriously wrote: »
    balerbower wrote: »
    ya know that actually sounds like a very plausible theory for what's going to be a major plot point in legend of korra
    Spoiler:

    I have been thinking this

    Yeah, I'm inclined to agree
    Spoiler:
    Spoiler:
    Spoiler:
    Spoiler:

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  • ShadowenShadowen Snores in the morning Registered User regular
    Harrier wrote: »
    -Tal wrote: »
    balerbower wrote: »
    ya know that actually sounds like a very plausible theory for what's going to be a major plot point in legend of korra
    Spoiler:

    I still maintain that she'd just wind-up being immune. Because you know, she has the spirit of the Avatar. It's immortal. It's been passed down through eons because of its immense power and durability.

    she's not immune to chi blocking
    Chi blocking and getting your bending taken away are two different things.

    I'm with Twenty Sided. I think if Amon tries to take her bending the Avatar Spirit is going to show up and tell him to step the fuck off.

    ...oh. Oh shit. That would be awesome and terrifying both. Spoiled because my speculation is always 100% right. :P
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  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver Registered User, ClubPA regular
    I'm not pissed. I'm just shaking my head at what I'm seeing.

    The stuff I hear people back up the points? About it not coming out of nowhere because of other things that came out of nowhere? That was not the impression I got when I watched those episodes. Those episodes made sense within the framework they were given and the story they were telling. Fuck, someone mentioned the fucking dragons as an example when the dragons were introduced as the firebending teachers in pretty much the same breath as the problem of Zuko losing his bending and what to do about it.

    The entire series was building to the conflict with Aang and Ozai. Introducing energybending at the end changed that conflict in a way I do not appreciate. I would have rather had him finish the conflict as it had been foreshadowed, and I was looking forward to seeing how Aang would handle Ozai. The fact that energybending was an option changed the very nature of their conflict, so much so that I don't think he had to make a true decision about whether or not to kill Ozai.

    I wanted to see his personal struggle and his success in solving that problem, like the series had been building up to. When energybending was introduced out of the blue it robbed that seminal moment of its impact for me.

    That's why I don't like it. That's why I feel it was a cop out.

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  • TrippyJingTrippyJing Moses supposes his toeses are roses. But Moses supposes erroneously.Registered User regular
    TrippyJing wrote: »
    Travel into the Spirit World to find a way to restore her bending. Find out there must be a price.

    Tenzin gives up his bending to restore Korra.

    Meh. Too cheesy. It fails to play into key themes or establish Korra's growth. It's melodrama.

    Look, I just want to throw out my stupid prediction like everyone else. Also growth can happen before, during, and after it all occurs.

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  • BroloBrolo Broseidon Lord of the BroceanRegistered User regular
    Harrier wrote: »
    Also can we say flat-out that Ty Lee had Air Nomad blood in her? Because Ikki and Jinora look just like her.

    Could be that Pema came from Ty Lee stock, rather.

  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver Registered User, ClubPA regular
    Also, that's the last I'll speak on that. I promise. Have the last word if you want, I am done!

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  • Twenty SidedTwenty Sided Registered User regular
    edited April 2012
    ronzo wrote: »
    Also after watching this, some general thoughts on Amon and the most recent episode of Korra. (spoilers as well for that)
    Spoiler:
    Spoiler:

    I dislike this argument because it assigns the "spiritual" a special immunity to injury. We have no evidence of that. For all you know, it's about as easy to reverse this damage as it would to reverse the damage from a lobotomy. (Jabbin' a metal spike into your frontal lobe and mashing it up.)

    Twenty Sided on
  • BlueBlueBlueBlue Registered User regular
    Javen wrote: »
    NeoToma wrote: »
    Seriously wrote: »
    lightning seems to work
    Well yea, that's true.

    I was thinking about end of series Aang Avatar State, not before he got the hang of it(like Korra will most likely have to learn) Avatar state.

    He never got the hang of the Avatar state. He was not in control of it at all. He was shooting to kill on Ozai and almost Executed him during the state until he turned it off.

    So, I just finished up rewatching this series, and some thoughts on this point Munkus. TLA spoilers follow
    Spoiler:

    Also after watching this, some general thoughts on Amon and the most recent episode of Korra. (spoilers as well for that)
    Spoiler:

    I took it as
    Spoiler:

    True
    Spoiler:
    Spoiler:

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  • SeriouslySeriously ˈpɛrɪ ˌdɒt Registered User regular
    Seriously wrote: »
    actually I think it's pretty clear that all the kyoshi warriors married sokka all at once

    Does that include Tai Lee?

    But then how does Aang Lee work?

    I'm getting so confused

    that was my fanfic

    we're canonbending now, keep up

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  • Butler For Life #1Butler For Life #1 Member of Twin Club Registered User regular
    Bucketman wrote: »
    -Tal wrote: »
    Harrier wrote: »
    -Tal wrote: »
    balerbower wrote: »
    ya know that actually sounds like a very plausible theory for what's going to be a major plot point in legend of korra
    Spoiler:

    I still maintain that she'd just wind-up being immune. Because you know, she has the spirit of the Avatar. It's immortal. It's been passed down through eons because of its immense power and durability.

    she's not immune to chi blocking
    Chi blocking and getting your bending taken away are two different things.

    I'm with Twenty Sided. I think if Amon tries to take her bending the Avatar Spirit is going to show up and tell him to step the fuck off.

    I'm not convinced they are different things

    what Amon did looked pretty distinct from energybending

    it is possible that Amon has learned an advanced sort of nerve pinching that takes bending away by blocking chi.

    So, Amon is a Vulcan?

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