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Legend of Korra: PANIC!!!! Episode 4 Is Uploaded!!!!

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  • BucketmanBucketman Dyslexic Puppy Skraggle RockRegistered User regular
    -Tal wrote: »
    Harrier wrote: »
    -Tal wrote: »
    balerbower wrote: »
    ya know that actually sounds like a very plausible theory for what's going to be a major plot point in legend of korra
    Spoiler:

    I still maintain that she'd just wind-up being immune. Because you know, she has the spirit of the Avatar. It's immortal. It's been passed down through eons because of its immense power and durability.

    she's not immune to chi blocking
    Chi blocking and getting your bending taken away are two different things.

    I'm with Twenty Sided. I think if Amon tries to take her bending the Avatar Spirit is going to show up and tell him to step the fuck off.

    I'm not convinced they are different things

    what Amon did looked pretty distinct from energybending

    it is possible that Amon has learned an advanced sort of nerve pinching that takes bending away by blocking chi. Like how aang almost lost the Avatar state permently.
    I guess we'll find out in a few weeks as we learn more

    Can't you see it in my eyes, I'm the one I'm the ONE TWO THREE FOUR I'm not like the other guys, (he's not like anybody, well..) That's not completely right There's a few that I'm just like Steven and the Stevens, We're gonna make you smile. Me, myself, and I and him, Are all the same guy.Steven and the Stevens, Come on now don't be shy. Me myself and I and him (That's me!) Are all the same guy.
  • BroloBrolo Broseidon Lord of the BroceanRegistered User regular
    Shadowen wrote: »
    Harrier wrote: »
    -Tal wrote: »
    balerbower wrote: »
    ya know that actually sounds like a very plausible theory for what's going to be a major plot point in legend of korra
    Spoiler:

    I still maintain that she'd just wind-up being immune. Because you know, she has the spirit of the Avatar. It's immortal. It's been passed down through eons because of its immense power and durability.

    she's not immune to chi blocking
    Chi blocking and getting your bending taken away are two different things.

    I'm with Twenty Sided. I think if Amon tries to take her bending the Avatar Spirit is going to show up and tell him to step the fuck off.

    ...oh. Oh shit. That would be awesome and terrifying both. Spoiled because my speculation is always 100% right. :P
    Spoiler:

    whatever

    girl doesn't need bending with pythons like those

    she could just flex at her enemies

  • crwthcrwth IDIOT NEWS Registered User regular
    -Tal wrote: »
    crwth wrote: »
    Javen wrote: »
    Seriously wrote: »
    balerbower wrote: »
    ya know that actually sounds like a very plausible theory for what's going to be a major plot point in legend of korra
    Spoiler:

    I have been thinking this

    Yeah, I'm inclined to agree
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  • Butler For Life #1Butler For Life #1 Member of Twin Club Registered User regular
    wait a minute

    could an Earthbender bend Dinosaur bones

    could they make a t-rex skeleton fight for them

    I bet they could

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  • JavenJaven Registered User regular
    edited April 2012
    I'm not pissed. I'm just shaking my head at what I'm seeing.

    The stuff I hear people back up the points? About it not coming out of nowhere because of other things that came out of nowhere? That was not the impression I got when I watched those episodes. Those episodes made sense within the framework they were given and the story they were telling. Fuck, someone mentioned the fucking dragons as an example when the dragons were introduced as the firebending teachers in pretty much the same breath as the problem of Zuko losing his bending and what to do about it.

    The entire series was building to the conflict with Aang and Ozai. Introducing energybending at the end changed that conflict in a way I do not appreciate. I would have rather had him finish the conflict as it had been foreshadowed, and I was looking forward to seeing how Aang would handle Ozai. The fact that energybending was an option changed the very nature of their conflict, so much so that I don't think he had to make a true decision about whether or not to kill Ozai.

    I wanted to see his personal struggle and his success in solving that problem, like the series had been building up to. When energybending was introduced out of the blue it robbed that seminal moment of its impact for me.

    That's why I don't like it. That's why I feel it was a cop out.

    But he did make a decision. The decision was 'no.'

    EDIT: I mean, if you think Aang sticking to his pacifist guns somehow deprived him of personal development, alright. But a pretty strong theme behind being the Avatar was always that it's not enough just to follow the examples of your ancestors, but to do things yourself and be your own person, not just what is expected of you. It's one of the strongest similarities between Aang and Zuko, and it's why Aang's confrontation with Ozai and the final Agni Kai were shown concurrently.

    Javen on
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  • ShadowenShadowen Snores in the morning Registered User regular
    wait a minute

    could an Earthbender bend Dinosaur bones

    could they make a t-rex skeleton fight for them

    I bet they could

    Are there dinosaurs in the Avatar world? Maybe there's just drag...

    ...ohshit Brontosaurus rex

  • Harry DresdenHarry Dresden Registered User regular
    wait a minute

    could an Earthbender bend Dinosaur bones

    could they make a t-rex skeleton fight for them

    I bet they could

    Bones are skeletons not earth.

  • ZayZay Registered User regular
    so I got to thinking

    why don't they have guns?

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  • Butler For Life #1Butler For Life #1 Member of Twin Club Registered User regular
    wait a minute

    could an Earthbender bend Dinosaur bones

    could they make a t-rex skeleton fight for them

    I bet they could

    Bones are skeletons not earth.

    but fossils are skeletons that have been replaced with minerals over time. They should easily have more earth in them than metal, and that can be bended.

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  • Twenty SidedTwenty Sided Registered User regular
    edited April 2012
    Javen wrote: »
    I'm not pissed. I'm just shaking my head at what I'm seeing.

    The stuff I hear people back up the points? About it not coming out of nowhere because of other things that came out of nowhere? That was not the impression I got when I watched those episodes. Those episodes made sense within the framework they were given and the story they were telling. Fuck, someone mentioned the fucking dragons as an example when the dragons were introduced as the firebending teachers in pretty much the same breath as the problem of Zuko losing his bending and what to do about it.

    The entire series was building to the conflict with Aang and Ozai. Introducing energybending at the end changed that conflict in a way I do not appreciate. I would have rather had him finish the conflict as it had been foreshadowed, and I was looking forward to seeing how Aang would handle Ozai. The fact that energybending was an option changed the very nature of their conflict, so much so that I don't think he had to make a true decision about whether or not to kill Ozai.

    I wanted to see his personal struggle and his success in solving that problem, like the series had been building up to. When energybending was introduced out of the blue it robbed that seminal moment of its impact for me.

    That's why I don't like it. That's why I feel it was a cop out.

    But he did make a decision. The decision was 'no.'

    Then following the appropriate level of foreshadowing, this should horribly backfire or produce a less-than-satisfactory result.

    (Example: There is no Spirit Bending. Ozai is imprisoned, but prominent factions of the Fire Nation oppose Zuko's rule, who see him as a traitorous weakling and want his head on a pike and want Ozai reinstated. They remain a persistent military threat. Fire and Earth Nations diplomacy remains sour for generations to come and negative stereotypes of Fire Nation as warmongers persist.)

    Twenty Sided on
  • balerbowerbalerbower Registered User regular
    Zay wrote: »
    so I got to thinking

    why don't they have guns?

    OFF WITH HIS HEAD

  • Harry DresdenHarry Dresden Registered User regular
    wait a minute

    could an Earthbender bend Dinosaur bones

    could they make a t-rex skeleton fight for them

    I bet they could

    Bones are skeletons not earth.

    but fossils are skeletons that have been replaced with minerals over time. They should easily have more earth in them than metal, and that can be bended.

    You got me there. Now I'm disappointed Toph didn't ride a dinosaur skeleton into battle. :evil:

  • SeriouslySeriously Registered User regular
    because of how all the animals are hybrids in bendland, the dinosaurs were some eldritch fucking monstrosities

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  • -Tal-Tal We wasn't supposed to make it past 25 Joke's on you, we still aliveRegistered User regular
    Javen wrote: »
    I'm not pissed. I'm just shaking my head at what I'm seeing.

    The stuff I hear people back up the points? About it not coming out of nowhere because of other things that came out of nowhere? That was not the impression I got when I watched those episodes. Those episodes made sense within the framework they were given and the story they were telling. Fuck, someone mentioned the fucking dragons as an example when the dragons were introduced as the firebending teachers in pretty much the same breath as the problem of Zuko losing his bending and what to do about it.

    The entire series was building to the conflict with Aang and Ozai. Introducing energybending at the end changed that conflict in a way I do not appreciate. I would have rather had him finish the conflict as it had been foreshadowed, and I was looking forward to seeing how Aang would handle Ozai. The fact that energybending was an option changed the very nature of their conflict, so much so that I don't think he had to make a true decision about whether or not to kill Ozai.

    I wanted to see his personal struggle and his success in solving that problem, like the series had been building up to. When energybending was introduced out of the blue it robbed that seminal moment of its impact for me.

    That's why I don't like it. That's why I feel it was a cop out.

    But he did make a decision. The decision was 'no.'

    Then following the appropriate level of foreshadowing, this should horribly backfire or produce a less-than-satisfactory result.

    (Example: There is no Spirit Bending. Ozai is imprisoned, but prominent factions of the Fire Nation oppose Zuko's rule, who see him as a traitorous weakling and want his head on a pike and want Ozai reinstated. They remain a persistent military threat. Fire and Earth Nations diplomacy remains sour for generations to come and negative stereotypes of Fire Nation as warmongers persist.)

    @Pony

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  • Butler For Life #1Butler For Life #1 Member of Twin Club Registered User regular
    wait a minute

    could an Earthbender bend Dinosaur bones

    could they make a t-rex skeleton fight for them

    I bet they could

    Bones are skeletons not earth.

    but fossils are skeletons that have been replaced with minerals over time. They should easily have more earth in them than metal, and that can be bended.

    You got me there. Now I'm disappointed Toph didn't ride a dinosaur skeleton into battle. :evil:

    Seriously, the earth nation missed out on a huge opportunity

    they have the skills needed to unearth the fossils and the skills needed to make them fight

    I want to see Tophrassic Park, dammit

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  • crwthcrwth IDIOT NEWS Registered User regular
    Zay wrote: »
    so I got to thinking

    why don't they have guns?

    korra's luggin around a couple of guns

    gal is jacked

  • SeriouslySeriously Registered User regular
    Zay wrote: »
    so I got to thinking

    why don't they have guns?

    they do

    everybody has a gun, but then they think man what good is a gun against a bender and they don't use them


    even in the original series

    the swamp people had guns, tucked up under those leaves

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  • GoatmonGoatmon Cancel My 2:00 This meeting could get DEADLYRegistered User regular
    ronzo wrote: »
    Also after watching this, some general thoughts on Amon and the most recent episode of Korra. (spoilers as well for that)
    Spoiler:
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  • Butler For Life #1Butler For Life #1 Member of Twin Club Registered User regular
    Goatmon wrote: »
    ronzo wrote: »
    Also after watching this, some general thoughts on Amon and the most recent episode of Korra. (spoilers as well for that)
    Spoiler:
    Spoiler:
    Spoiler:
    Spoiler:

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  • Cilla BlackCilla Black Registered User regular
    Javen wrote: »
    I'm not pissed. I'm just shaking my head at what I'm seeing.

    The stuff I hear people back up the points? About it not coming out of nowhere because of other things that came out of nowhere? That was not the impression I got when I watched those episodes. Those episodes made sense within the framework they were given and the story they were telling. Fuck, someone mentioned the fucking dragons as an example when the dragons were introduced as the firebending teachers in pretty much the same breath as the problem of Zuko losing his bending and what to do about it.

    The entire series was building to the conflict with Aang and Ozai. Introducing energybending at the end changed that conflict in a way I do not appreciate. I would have rather had him finish the conflict as it had been foreshadowed, and I was looking forward to seeing how Aang would handle Ozai. The fact that energybending was an option changed the very nature of their conflict, so much so that I don't think he had to make a true decision about whether or not to kill Ozai.

    I wanted to see his personal struggle and his success in solving that problem, like the series had been building up to. When energybending was introduced out of the blue it robbed that seminal moment of its impact for me.

    That's why I don't like it. That's why I feel it was a cop out.

    But he did make a decision. The decision was 'no.'

    Then following the appropriate level of foreshadowing, this should horribly backfire or produce a less-than-satisfactory result.

    (Example: There is no Spirit Bending. Ozai is imprisoned, but prominent factions of the Fire Nation oppose Zuko's rule, who see him as a traitorous weakling and want his head on a pike and want Ozai reinstated. They remain a persistent military threat. Fire and Earth Nations diplomacy remains sour for generations to come and negative stereotypes of Fire Nation as warmongers persist despite the best intentions of Zuko.)

    I agree with Munkus that energy bending pretty much comes out of nowhere and it very much has the feeling of deus ex machina. If they'd had more time to work with it, perhaps it would have felt different. Same goes with Azula's personality shift. They built it up decently but it's still awfully sudden and doesn't entirely sit right.

    As far as your alternative to Ozai being debended, I don't see why that couldn't have happened anyway. He lost his bending, not his mind. It's still entirely possible all that stuff did happen but was unsuccessful. 70 some years is a long time.

  • ZayZay Registered User regular
    Seriously wrote: »
    Zay wrote: »
    so I got to thinking

    why don't they have guns?

    they do

    everybody has a gun, but then they think man what good is a gun against a bender and they don't use them


    even in the original series

    the swamp people had guns, tucked up under those leaves

    oh!! so this is like

    what

    a deus ex machina right?

    p. lame how that just sort of happened

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  • SeriouslySeriously Registered User regular
    like

    one time two people were fighting and in the heat of the moment one guy finally pulls his gun and everything stops


    his opponent just gives him a wtf stare until his face turns red and he reholsters it

    then they resume kung-fu

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  • PonyPony Registered User regular
    -Tal wrote: »
    Javen wrote: »
    I'm not pissed. I'm just shaking my head at what I'm seeing.

    The stuff I hear people back up the points? About it not coming out of nowhere because of other things that came out of nowhere? That was not the impression I got when I watched those episodes. Those episodes made sense within the framework they were given and the story they were telling. Fuck, someone mentioned the fucking dragons as an example when the dragons were introduced as the firebending teachers in pretty much the same breath as the problem of Zuko losing his bending and what to do about it.

    The entire series was building to the conflict with Aang and Ozai. Introducing energybending at the end changed that conflict in a way I do not appreciate. I would have rather had him finish the conflict as it had been foreshadowed, and I was looking forward to seeing how Aang would handle Ozai. The fact that energybending was an option changed the very nature of their conflict, so much so that I don't think he had to make a true decision about whether or not to kill Ozai.

    I wanted to see his personal struggle and his success in solving that problem, like the series had been building up to. When energybending was introduced out of the blue it robbed that seminal moment of its impact for me.

    That's why I don't like it. That's why I feel it was a cop out.

    But he did make a decision. The decision was 'no.'

    Then following the appropriate level of foreshadowing, this should horribly backfire or produce a less-than-satisfactory result.

    (Example: There is no Spirit Bending. Ozai is imprisoned, but prominent factions of the Fire Nation oppose Zuko's rule, who see him as a traitorous weakling and want his head on a pike and want Ozai reinstated. They remain a persistent military threat. Fire and Earth Nations diplomacy remains sour for generations to come and negative stereotypes of Fire Nation as warmongers persist.)

    @Pony

    don't you fucking drag me into this horseshit

    i already said my piece on this

  • ThreadbareSockThreadbareSock Registered User regular
    I know people hate the kinect (for perfectly valid reasons) but an Avatar bending game would p neat.

  • Twenty SidedTwenty Sided Registered User regular
    edited April 2012
    Javen wrote: »
    I'm not pissed. I'm just shaking my head at what I'm seeing.

    The stuff I hear people back up the points? About it not coming out of nowhere because of other things that came out of nowhere? That was not the impression I got when I watched those episodes. Those episodes made sense within the framework they were given and the story they were telling. Fuck, someone mentioned the fucking dragons as an example when the dragons were introduced as the firebending teachers in pretty much the same breath as the problem of Zuko losing his bending and what to do about it.

    The entire series was building to the conflict with Aang and Ozai. Introducing energybending at the end changed that conflict in a way I do not appreciate. I would have rather had him finish the conflict as it had been foreshadowed, and I was looking forward to seeing how Aang would handle Ozai. The fact that energybending was an option changed the very nature of their conflict, so much so that I don't think he had to make a true decision about whether or not to kill Ozai.

    I wanted to see his personal struggle and his success in solving that problem, like the series had been building up to. When energybending was introduced out of the blue it robbed that seminal moment of its impact for me.

    That's why I don't like it. That's why I feel it was a cop out.

    But he did make a decision. The decision was 'no.'

    Then following the appropriate level of foreshadowing, this should horribly backfire or produce a less-than-satisfactory result.

    (Example: There is no Spirit Bending. Ozai is imprisoned, but prominent factions of the Fire Nation oppose Zuko's rule, who see him as a traitorous weakling and want his head on a pike and want Ozai reinstated. They remain a persistent military threat. Fire and Earth Nations diplomacy remains sour for generations to come and negative stereotypes of Fire Nation as warmongers persist despite the best intentions of Zuko.)

    I agree with Munkus that energy bending pretty much comes out of nowhere and it very much has the feeling of deus ex machina. If they'd had more time to work with it, perhaps it would have felt different. Same goes with Azula's personality shift. They built it up decently but it's still awfully sudden and doesn't entirely sit right.

    As far as your alternative to Ozai being debended, I don't see why that couldn't have happened anyway. He lost his bending, not his mind. It's still entirely possible all that stuff did happen but was unsuccessful. 70 some years is a long time.

    Eh, it's just the best example I could think of.

    I honestly think that Ozai is a less of a political threat without his powers because Firebending is analogous to martial prowess in the Fire Nation and is basically a leadership qualification. I explain my opinion in some earlier post.

    Somebody else also pointed out that a lot of his power also may have come from sheer personal intimidation. Agni-Kai is a well established method of violently resolving personal disputes.

    It also says a lot about your society when killing dragons with Firebending was a way to win acclaim for yourself.

    With fewer legitimate contenders, you get a situation where people are more likely to think that Zuko is the "winning side," similar to how Mei's uncle saw the writing on the wall. If Ozai has his powers, then on-average, that calculus will wind-up more in his favor than in Zuko's. He is a proven leader and his ambitions are likely to be shared by a large portion of the ruling elite. Even a shmuck that's just trying to keep his head down is going to side with Ozai.

    Twenty Sided on
  • GoatmonGoatmon Cancel My 2:00 This meeting could get DEADLYRegistered User regular
    Just realized something about Ozai.
    Spoiler:

    Goatmon wrote: »
    ronzo wrote: »
    Also after watching this, some general thoughts on Amon and the most recent episode of Korra. (spoilers as well for that)
    Spoiler:
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    Spoiler:
    Spoiler:

    ugh

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  • PonyPony Registered User regular
    edited April 2012
    this thread is out of balance

    we need the postvatar to come and restore balance

    i will summon him

    @larlar

    Pony on
  • GoatmonGoatmon Cancel My 2:00 This meeting could get DEADLYRegistered User regular
    NO ONE SUMMONS THE POSVATAR

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  • ThreadbareSockThreadbareSock Registered User regular
    I really dont think Ozai will be part of any of this. Korra's story is her own thing.

  • ronzoronzo Registered User regular
    I know people hate the kinect (for perfectly valid reasons) but an Avatar bending game would p neat.

    Someone mentioned this earlier, but a golden sun style game would be perfect.

    except give it chrono trigger's combat system

    i would buy that in a heartbeat

  • Butler For Life #1Butler For Life #1 Member of Twin Club Registered User regular
    the postvatar is coming!

    Someone clean the statue of Postvatar Tube!

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  • GoatmonGoatmon Cancel My 2:00 This meeting could get DEADLYRegistered User regular
    edited April 2012
    I really dont think Ozai will be part of any of this. Korra's story is her own thing.

    That would be fine, too. And I expect that will be the case.

    I'm just saying it would fit if
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    Goatmon on
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  • ThreadbareSockThreadbareSock Registered User regular
    edited April 2012
    Goatmon wrote: »
    I am fine with that being the case.

    I'm just saying it would make perfect sense if
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    ThreadbareSock on
  • BroloBrolo Broseidon Lord of the BroceanRegistered User regular
    Goatmon wrote: »
    I am fine with that being the case.

    I'm just saying it would make perfect sense if
    Spoiler:
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    oh my god


    it's.... sokka

  • BroloBrolo Broseidon Lord of the BroceanRegistered User regular
  • TrippyJingTrippyJing Moses supposes his toeses are roses. But Moses supposes erroneously.Registered User regular
    Amon is Foaming Mouth Guy

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  • JavenJaven Registered User regular
  • BugBoyBugBoy I like big bugs and I cannot lieRegistered User regular
    so everyone's all wondering if
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  • TamTam I hate art I love artRegistered User regular
  • SeriouslySeriously Registered User regular
    Amon is Aang

    's twin brother, who also inherited avatar powers and was frozen in an iceberg for 200 years

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