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And which if these things would some other king not do?
How much nicer was their life under Robert? How much nicer would it be under Stannis?
Yeah, cause Joffery was killing all the babies everywhere. And the war is certainly not killing babies or people everywhere.
Also didn't Joffrey want to increase the amount given in tribute for a standing army even before the war?
An interesting conundrum, on the one hand it would be logical to expect war after executing Stark, on the other hand Joffrey is an idiot, and on the gross mutant third hand Cersei had taught Joffrey that everyone was an enemy that needed to be destroyed.
After every new episode of this show, I watch it again and pay close attention to the faces of the people who aren't speaking. A trick I learned watching the Destructoid Show, from Max Scoville.
He needs people who bring these things up. It's really hard to buy no one else mentioned this problem in the first place, but Robb doesn't need his men's confidence in him or his confidence in himself chipped away at in the middle of a war by someone who didn't seem to have any bright ideas to share, just assigning blame in the wrong spot. But I suppose that's human nature.
I know that scene with the nurse tried to show how ordinary peasants are going to pay the heaviest price in all this, but wasn't medieval noble infighting relatively limited in scope? That is, small armies composed of nobles and mercenaries with peasant levies as a negligible and small component (at least compared to later conflicts of religion, nationalism, and ideology)?
It kind of does. The Lannisters are 100% responsible for every life lost in the war. Robb even gave them terms. Unless he makes some huge tactical blunder getting civilians and his own men killed, he's doing everything exactly how it should be done.
I wanna use them as inspiration and research for concept art on an alt avatar in Heroes of Newerth.
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The Bad Guy Thinks He's Good isn't a defense. It's the bad guys fantasy. Everyone thinks their justified to some degree in their actions. Doesn't mean they are. No, by and large the Lannister army doesn't fall under that, they're just poor sods. But the reason they're poor sods dying and getting their foot chopped off instead of farming is the Lannisters thinking they can do bad things and not pay for it.
Why does Robb have to be the 'sensible' one? Why can't the Lannisters just go "Ok, have the Throne. We'll be over here being rich while you sell us the Kingdom.". It's as reasonable as Robb just chilling up north.
But if I was one of his peasants and I was levied and refused to go to war, he would have me executed.
He would feel bad about it and maybe wield the blade himself like his father taught him, and Joffrey would feel good about it and take chicks to see my head on a spike, before having them beaten.
I'd care a little bit about the difference. But I'd still be dead.
vote republicansupport lannister?Well thats really the fault of the world the story is in not one particular person
Well yeah Robb seceding from the South is probably not something Lannister soldiers care very much about it.
I thought Robb did care about people dying? At the 2 minute mark. Season 1, Episode 9.
Of course because my skyplus box went all odd it only recorded the last five minutes of the last episode so all I got was Melisandre's birth scene. I'll shut up until I see what this nurse lady actually had to say.
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It depended on the region, but usually there were a fair share of peasant levies anyway. The real way the peasants suffered was that warfare was all about sending out small groups of raiders and trying to burn down the enemy's country before he burns down yours. That was where knights actually saw most of their combat, was when small mounted bands would run into each other, which is why tourneys were usually all about small team battles and jousts. Actual set-piece battles were extremely rare. Richard the Lionhearted only ever fought like one or two proper battles in his whole campaign. Large battles were so risky that the general wisdom was to absolutely avoid it unless it was the last possible option, or unless you outnumbered the enemy overwhelmingly.