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And I really don't think shows being "toyetic" are over now. Marvel shows, Pokemon, the various anime card/spinny thing shows, etc. Besides, we've had insane adult toy collectors for decades now.
So what you're saying is, the entertainment industry is baseball before the events in the Moneyball movie?
The reason, according to that article, is Jeph Loeb; the visionary who gave us Red Hulk now heads up Marvel's animation department.
I think the bolded is the telling part. Executives cancelling successful programs that they didn't develop is not unheard of in the TV business; what's surprising is when they all but come out and admit it.
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Damn is Korra awesome.
Loeb is a villain straight out of an issue of What The--!?
And there's nothing wrong with Red Hulk, just how Loeb wrote it.
It seems like the eras of franchise comics and cartoons that I enjoy are all too short because before I can enjoy the new take or the re-introduction of older stuff, some fucking hack fanboy swoops in and makes it the way it was when he was a kid (although I don't think that Loeb's actual problem...), and currently I'm not at the age of most comic-book/cartoon execs.
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Kid-friendly. Although maybe Loeb is just saying that as an excuse and will indeed be introducing incest and ultraviolence to cartoons aimed at people under 18.
Well, I ment in name only like Ultimate Spider-Man. Hell apparently the Ultimates are going to be seen more in USM (we've already seen Iron Man), so they could just make a show based with those characters using the same animation. Oh god.
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I mean, I can understand why they want to do it that way. If they're going to have the shows feel like they take place in the larger Marvel Universe, that requires interaction that isn't hilariously and obviously non-canon in the other show. (Compare the Living Laser in EMH and his appearance in the most recent USM.)
It's still stupid/shortsighted/petty/wasteful to create a show that's not in the same universe as the successful show already airing as an excuse to kill that show and replace it with something in line with the new show you're creating, as opposed to integrating the new show you're creating into the show that's already airing, but I can understand why a retarded blind douchebag egomaniac devil-worshipper hack might do it. That doesn't mean I have to like it or agree with it.
I'm beginning to think that Loeb was given control of the animated end of Marvel simply so he'd stop screwing with the comics end of the franchise. Can't say I'd blame them if that's the case.
Ultimate Spider-man is not in continuity with Marvel's films. Otherwise we'd see Spider-man, White Tiger, Luke Cage and Nova joining the Avengers in that film. It has a totally different tone, as well. The only recent cartoon I'd buy that would remotely be tied to that film universe is the Iron Man anime.
I do. You don't give someone that incompetent more power, you give them less to reduce the damage they cause to the company. If they didn't want him messing with the comic division they needed to stop giving him assignments or at least high profile (and line wide effecting) jobs.
Well yeah, but he also worked on Heroes.
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I am currently picturing an Avengers show that has the Family Guy-esque presentation of Ultimate Spider-man and I can't help but groan.
You'd think working on a successful serialized show like Lost would give you the idea that the format can be a hit but apparently not!
You mean like Justice League? An amazing show that spanned 5 seasons, cemented a host of voice-actors as the voices of the comic book characters we've loved for decades, thus giving them a kind of solid continuity across multiple medias and making them stronger and more popular as result, as well as giving rise to awesome feature length animated films and video games year after year?
Sheesh, I can see why you'd want to avoid treading that ground. Especially as there exists no technology to provide easy access to media, making it impossible for anyone to know anything about the show without the TeeVee.
Gawd.
Avengers isn't quite on the level of JL/JLU but it's sure as hell the best Marvel animated series to date. Why fuck up something that isn't bro-
Right, Jeff Loeb. Ultimatum.
I wish terrible people didn't have jobs.
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Now, I hate Jeph Loeb and everything he does, but Jeff Parker turned Red Hulk into a pretty great character.
If you're going to name a horrible character Jeph Loeb created, stick with Romulus.
The second I clicked that link a slow low groan exited my mouth.
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I was introduced to Loeb through The Long Halloween, a pretty cool Batman story made better by Tim Sale's artwork. Then I read Superman For All Seasons, a very neat take on Superman again made that much more awesome by Tim Sale. So I admit, I have some affection for the guy.
I guess I should say, had. When Heroes got all cocked up, I didn't think it had anything to do with him. Then the Ultimatum nonsense, and now canceling EMH for no significant reason? What the hell? That guy sucks.
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Well let's be fair here...how many comic writers haven't been responsible for a terrible idea centered around or inspired by Wolverine?
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I don't see any words of mine even referring to the Marvel films, but a very informative nonsequitr.
I watched some Avengers, and I liked it. I'd been meaning to get back to it with season 2. Now I'm just sort of glad I more or less let it go.
If you haven't watched Spectacular Spider-Man, you absolutely should. And you might as well watch the second season of the Avengers, since not only does it open the show up to the entire Marvel Universe, but it has a scene where the Hulk beats a robot to death by using The Thing as a club.
At any rate, there's been a Pixar update. I'll just run down the future list:
Brave's coming out June 22. If you haven't seen the scene they're using as a trailer, you absolutely should:
Next June is Monsters University. Apparently back then Mike and Sulley didn't like each other.
The year after that is The Good Dinosaur, a film about what would have happened if dinosaurs never went extinct.
And in 2015, there's currently two films planned. The first is The Untitled Pixar Movie that Takes You Inside the Mind.
And the second is Dia de los Muertos, an original film about The Day of the Dead.
http://insidemovies.ew.com/2012/04/24/pixar-announces-spooky-new-project-for-toy-story-3-director/
...yep, Pixar sure is piling on the sequels.
Hopefully it has John Goodman and a hallway on fire.
Because 9% think it's too high, and shouldn't be cut! 9% of respondents could not fully
get their arms around the question. There should be another box you can check for, "I
have utterly no idea what you're talking about. Please, God, don't ask for my input."
Yep. It also has the only incarnation of Venom that makes any sense.
So fucking genius.
Forget the whole New 52 thing; did anyone actually like Flashpoint for what it was?
I liked the Spider-man: TAS version.
Please tell me this isn't a real thing.
Please.
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That's a character from The Tick.
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And a villain with the most fantastic backstory ever --- he became a bad guy because he has a pig for a leg.
If you ever get a chance, watch the episode "Heroes" from the second season. Glorious.