No hordes. But witch doctor class can summon 3 zombie dogs permanently.
He can also summon fetishes (little guys from act 3 in D2), but they only last for 20 seconds and the spell has a long cool down.
And he can summon a gargantuan zombie which is similar to a golem.
And has a passive that ups his zombie dog count to 4.
Which I wonder about. The number there is always highlighted, which makes me ask if that number can be increased beyond 4 with whatever the affix for that skill is on gear. If that is, in fact, how that sort of thing is going to work.
After playing the open beta this weekend, I am even more unsure which class I want to roll first. I really like the witch doctor but it doesn't seem like he does any damage. The spiders are neat but you have to spam jars all day to do any serious deeps. The zombie dogs were pretty beast, but the poison dart didn't seem to do much damage either. It definitely seems like a class that won't "come into its own" until you are a few levels in with some decent gear, which is fine, but very different from how the monk/barb/wizard can just start nuking stuff right away. I haven't tried the Demon Hunter but I heard it is even more OP.
Agree with you and suckafish in that I also don't like spiders. Darts are far superior IMO.
Disagree that the WD has low power early on. Once I got firebats it was off to the fuckin races. Then Soul Harvest turns you into a monster. Its basically double damage all the time. I roll with: dogs, triple dart, soul harvest and firebats. Dogs tank, run in and cast soul harvest to get (nearly) double damage, firebat everything close to you until out of mana, triple dart far away targets, rinse and repeat.
I think if I were to pick "most ridiculous skill in beta" it would be Soul Harvest.
Shhh!
They know..
I think it was one of those skills mentioned in one of the interviews... wherein a tester approached them and said "You cannot play X class without X ability!" and they laughed at him or her.
I can see it getting a nerf cannon, or at least a nerf dart in the retail game, but it will still be a good utility skill regardless.
In the meantime, in my Witch Doctor playthrough it essentially functioned as a "win button", and it should allow characters with less-than-ideal investments in intelligence compete, damage-wise.
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Does cold damage slow enemies? Some of the wizard skills specifically say they slow enemies (Ray of Frost) but some say they deal cold damage, but don't specifically mention slowing (Blizzard, Hydra with Frost rune). Would a skill that applies weapon elemental damage slow enemies if the weapon deals cold damage?
Also, is being slowed the same as being "chilled"?
Like, if I attack an enemy with Ray of Frost, the skill description says it slows enemies, but would the passive "Cold Blooded" kick in for an extra 20% damage against chilled targets at that point?
Does the official site have information on these game mechanics? I couldn't find much info on the magic properties on the game guide site.
I think if I were to pick "most ridiculous skill in beta" it would be Soul Harvest.
Shhh!
They know..
I think it was one of those skills mentioned in one of the interviews... wherein a tester approached them and said "You cannot play X class without X ability!" and they laughed at him or her.
I can see it getting a nerf cannon, or at least a nerf dart in the retail game, but it will still be a good utility skill regardless.
In the meantime, in my Witch Doctor playthrough it essentially functioned as a "win button", and it should allow characters with less-than-ideal investments in intelligence compete, damage-wise.
Yeah, soul harvest with 5 full bars turned my spells into death rays.
However, it does have a short range and mobs will be way more dangerous later. It might be the case that closing to use it is pretty risky.
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So followers. I never got to use the templar in the beta.
Do we have to activate their skills ourselves, or are some/all of them autocast?
No hordes. But witch doctor class can summon 3 zombie dogs permanently.
He can also summon fetishes (little guys from act 3 in D2), but they only last for 20 seconds and the spell has a long cool down.
And he can summon a gargantuan zombie which is similar to a golem.
And has a passive that ups his zombie dog count to 4.
Which I wonder about. The number there is always highlighted, which makes me ask if that number can be increased beyond 4 with whatever the affix for that skill is on gear. If that is, in fact, how that sort of thing is going to work.
I'm sure there will be some uniques to buff that number up a point or two. It's just too easy an idea not to take. Hell, I wouldn't put it past them to have objects that turn your zombie dogs into skeletons.
In my actual experience (admittedly, with a full build that reflects where the game was in difficulty a month ago), I had to push my demon hunter up to level 32 to get out of Normal, and up to 55 to get out of Nightmare.
So we might actually be maxed a for a chunk of Hell instead of reaching it towards the end.
I wonder how Bashiok's grandmother is doing with the current build.
That wasn't Bash
Not sure what that has to do with anything. I still wonder how Bashiok's grandmother is doing with the current build.
Then why even quote me!
I bet she's doing just fine though.
Well, your post just reminded me that the blues keep making posts saying that the challenge seems to pick up a lot more than people are expecting. Now I'm imagining Bashiok's grandma chain-dying in Act 4 Normal.
Looks nice! Any side buttons, or just nice shiney mouse with braided cord?
Two button on each side! The buttons feel a bit light, but the mouse is comfortable. It also pulses red on the D3 symbol and around the scroll wheel.
I was really happy about the side buttons because I use them for Vent.
I'm the same, very cool that it has those.
It's always lame when I play League on my laptop and have to use alt for voice (which invariably means I accidentally click while talking and start pinging a bunch).
Didnt miss out on much with the Templar in beta, he does next to no damage at such a low level and never really needs to tank anything since nothing is to much of a threat that early.
The thing with Soul Harvest is that it doesn't scale as well since it gives a static Int bonus per level. That Barbarian shout that increases damage by 30% or whatever is like making every point of Strength gained on new gear 30% better. Soul Harvest just stacks Int on top of however much you have from gear. Basically the worse your gear is, the better Soul Harvest is. I'm sure when people are working through Inferno it won't be such a powerhouse.
It's actually rather odd that it just straight up increases Int by a level-based amount. Pretty much everything else in the game has some sort of percentage scaling.
There was also a discussion a couple days ago about if the game had a Corpse Explosion equivalent. I don't recall anyone mentioning it, but I was looking at WD skills last night and there is a rune for the WD's acid rain spell (I believe) that basically turns it into corpse explosion.
So followers. I never got to use the templar in the beta.
Do we have to activate their skills ourselves, or are some/all of them autocast?
From what I saw, their skills are either passive or autocast. The templar you get in the cathedral before the Skeleton King has a choice of these two abilities at level 5.
A) Heal myself or an ally for about 100 hit points, on a 15 second or so cooldown Taunt an enemy when the player is below 50% health.
So followers. I never got to use the templar in the beta.
Do we have to activate their skills ourselves, or are some/all of them autocast?
From what I saw, their skills are either passive or autocast. The templar you get in the cathedral before the Skeleton King has a choice of these two abilities at level 5.
A) Heal myself or an ally for about 100 hit points, on a 15 second or so cooldown Taunt an enemy when the player is below 50% health.
He actually uses heal pretty intelligently, did a decent job of tanking the Skeleton King for my Witch Doctor.
Basically the worse your gear is, the better Soul Harvest is.
Wouldn't it be the other way around? Since 1 int = 1% more damage, wouldn't the higher your base DPS, the bigger the gain off the added int?
Well, Int is additive. Although I guess upgrading a weapon would make Soul Harvest better. So really it's: the lower your Int is (generally I think that will mean the worse your non-weapon gear is), the better Soul Harvest is.
Simplified example (ignoring crit, etc.):
Spoilered for vertical length:
Let's say you're at a level where Soul Harvest gives you +200 Int.
Scenario 1:
w/o Soul Harvest:
100 DPS weapon
100 Int from gear
DPS: 200
w/ Soul Harvest:
100 DPS weapon
300 Int from Gear and Soul Harvest
DPS: 400 (Soul Harvest effectively doubled your damage)
Scenario 2:
w/o Soul Harvest:
100 DPS weapon
300 Int from gear
DPS: 400
w/ Soul Harvest:
100 DPS weapon
500 Int from Gear and Soul Harvest
DPS: 600 (Soul Harvest effectively increased your damage by 50%)
Soul Harvest is increasing your DPS by the same amount (200) in both scenarios, but as a % damage increase, it becomes less powerful the more Int you have.
Basically the worse your gear is, the better Soul Harvest is.
Wouldn't it be the other way around? Since 1 int = 1% more damage, wouldn't the higher your base DPS, the bigger the gain off the added int?
Well, Int is additive. Although I guess upgrading a weapon would make Soul Harvest better. So really it's: the lower your Int is (generally I think that will mean the worse your non-weapon gear is), the better Soul Harvest is.
Simplified example (ignoring crit, etc.):
Spoilered for vertical length:
Let's say you're at a level where Soul Harvest gives you +200 Int.
Scenario 1:
w/o Soul Harvest:
100 DPS weapon
100 Int from gear
DPS: 200
w/ Soul Harvest:
100 DPS weapon
300 Int from Gear and Soul Harvest
DPS: 400 (Soul Harvest effectively doubled your damage)
Scenario 2:
w/o Soul Harvest:
100 DPS weapon
300 Int from gear
DPS: 400
w/ Soul Harvest:
100 DPS weapon
500 Int from Gear and Soul Harvest
DPS: 600 (Soul Harvest effectively increased your damage by 50%)
Soul Harvest is increasing your DPS by the same amount (200) in both scenarios, but as a % damage increase, it becomes less powerful the more Int you have.
So it's like a diminishing return?
Could be in place to keep it from getting out of control I guess.
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Basically the worse your gear is, the better Soul Harvest is.
Wouldn't it be the other way around? Since 1 int = 1% more damage, wouldn't the higher your base DPS, the bigger the gain off the added int?
Well, Int is additive. Although I guess upgrading a weapon would make Soul Harvest better. So really it's: the lower your Int is (generally I think that will mean the worse your non-weapon gear is), the better Soul Harvest is.
Simplified example (ignoring crit, etc.):
Spoilered for vertical length:
Let's say you're at a level where Soul Harvest gives you +200 Int.
Scenario 1:
w/o Soul Harvest:
100 DPS weapon
100 Int from gear
DPS: 200
w/ Soul Harvest:
100 DPS weapon
300 Int from Gear and Soul Harvest
DPS: 400 (Soul Harvest effectively doubled your damage)
Scenario 2:
w/o Soul Harvest:
100 DPS weapon
300 Int from gear
DPS: 400
w/ Soul Harvest:
100 DPS weapon
500 Int from Gear and Soul Harvest
DPS: 600 (Soul Harvest effectively increased your damage by 50%)
Soul Harvest is increasing your DPS by the same amount (200) in both scenarios, but as a % damage increase, it becomes less powerful the more Int you have.
So it's like a diminishing return?
Could be in place to keep it from getting out of control I guess.
it's not really a feature that's in place, it's basic division
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Come May 15, will the servers be up midnight or some time later in the day?
For the Americas region, comprising the U.S., Canada, Latin America, Australia, New Zealand, and South East Asia, the game servers will go live at 12:01 a.m. PDT on May 15.
Interesting. 12.01am PDT on May 15 is actually 7.01pm on May 15 in NZ. That will fit quite well for me picking up the game during the day and then finishing work (provided the servers don't collapse).
I wish they had an option that showed your numerical hps over you health globe or something. Call me silly or goose or both, but ever since my FF days I love to see my hps staring back at me as my real indication of power gain. Otherwise this game is total tits and I am having a hard time deciding between Wizard, Monk, or Barb.
I wish they had an option that showed your numerical hps over you health globe or something. Call me silly or goose or both, but ever since my FF days I love to see my hps staring back at me as my real indication of power gain. Otherwise this game is total tits and I am having a hard time deciding between Wizard, Monk, or Barb.
I'm pretty sure they do. Check the settings, they've hidden all sorts of quality of life bollocks in there.
I don't normally play melee chars in these types of games (sorc and zon I did to death in D2) but have to say that after playing the beta, I really, really enjoyed the barb (only got the monk to level 3 -only had time for about 20 mins- but liked that too). Leaping into groups and smashing them across the room really appealed to me. Played with a few DH's as well and the "machine guns" they were unloading at times looked good to. Lots to like in this game and will be difficult to choose who to go with first.
I don't normally play melee chars in these types of games (sorc and zon I did to death in D2) but have to say that after playing the beta, I really, really enjoyed the barb (only got the monk to level 3 -only had time for about 20 mins- but liked that too). Leaping into groups and smashing them across the room really appealed to me. Played with a few DH's as well and the "machine guns" they were unloading at times looked good to. Lots to like in this game and will be difficult to choose who to go with first.
I have always been a sorc guy myself, but there is a real good chance day 1 is a barb. I loved not only wrecking bitches frenzy style, but having my friends on mumble like "DEAR GOD YOU'RE LEAPING INTO MASSIVE GROUPS OF ENEMIES ARE YOU INSANE" only to laugh hysterically that they go flying across the screen.
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Guess that'll have to do. Maybe the necro will make a return in an expansion.
Which I wonder about. The number there is always highlighted, which makes me ask if that number can be increased beyond 4 with whatever the affix for that skill is on gear. If that is, in fact, how that sort of thing is going to work.
Agree with you and suckafish in that I also don't like spiders. Darts are far superior IMO.
Disagree that the WD has low power early on. Once I got firebats it was off to the fuckin races. Then Soul Harvest turns you into a monster. Its basically double damage all the time. I roll with: dogs, triple dart, soul harvest and firebats. Dogs tank, run in and cast soul harvest to get (nearly) double damage, firebat everything close to you until out of mana, triple dart far away targets, rinse and repeat.
Only gets better too. 650 Int at level 60 for a full 5 stacks.
Makes me wonder about what stats will be like on high end gear though. Maybe that wont actually be that much by the time we're dying in Inferno.
Edit: Also, on the subject of WD skills, I still want to know how this rune for Hex actually works in game.
What happens to me when I explode my chicken self?
Finger-licking.
http://imgur.com/a/0GJCM
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They know..
I think it was one of those skills mentioned in one of the interviews... wherein a tester approached them and said "You cannot play X class without X ability!" and they laughed at him or her.
I can see it getting a nerf cannon, or at least a nerf dart in the retail game, but it will still be a good utility skill regardless.
In the meantime, in my Witch Doctor playthrough it essentially functioned as a "win button", and it should allow characters with less-than-ideal investments in intelligence compete, damage-wise.
Looks nice! Any side buttons, or just nice shiney mouse with braided cord?
Also, is being slowed the same as being "chilled"?
Like, if I attack an enemy with Ray of Frost, the skill description says it slows enemies, but would the passive "Cold Blooded" kick in for an extra 20% damage against chilled targets at that point?
Does the official site have information on these game mechanics? I couldn't find much info on the magic properties on the game guide site.
Two button on each side! The buttons feel a bit light, but the mouse is comfortable. It also pulses red on the D3 symbol and around the scroll wheel.
I was really happy about the side buttons because I use them for Vent.
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Yeah, soul harvest with 5 full bars turned my spells into death rays.
However, it does have a short range and mobs will be way more dangerous later. It might be the case that closing to use it is pretty risky.
Do we have to activate their skills ourselves, or are some/all of them autocast?
I'm sure there will be some uniques to buff that number up a point or two. It's just too easy an idea not to take. Hell, I wouldn't put it past them to have objects that turn your zombie dogs into skeletons.
They are conditional autocasts. A couple of the early ones are "Cast heal when you are low" or "Taunt enemy when you are low"
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I'm the same, very cool that it has those.
It's always lame when I play League on my laptop and have to use alt for voice (which invariably means I accidentally click while talking and start pinging a bunch).
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/follower/
Has all their skills and stuff.
Didnt miss out on much with the Templar in beta, he does next to no damage at such a low level and never really needs to tank anything since nothing is to much of a threat that early.
Scoundrel still has a sweet mustache though.
It's actually rather odd that it just straight up increases Int by a level-based amount. Pretty much everything else in the game has some sort of percentage scaling.
There was also a discussion a couple days ago about if the game had a Corpse Explosion equivalent. I don't recall anyone mentioning it, but I was looking at WD skills last night and there is a rune for the WD's acid rain spell (I believe) that basically turns it into corpse explosion.
From what I saw, their skills are either passive or autocast. The templar you get in the cathedral before the Skeleton King has a choice of these two abilities at level 5.
A) Heal myself or an ally for about 100 hit points, on a 15 second or so cooldown
My friends and I did a 4 witchdoctor run during the beta weekend. It was fucking ludicrous.
Ever wonder what 64~ spider pets and 12 zombie dogs looked like? Well here ya' go.
http://imgur.com/a/BOjay#0
On some fights I got down to about 5-10 fps. It was pretty gnarly to say the least.
Worth a look if you haven't yet.
Wouldn't it be the other way around? Since 1 int = 1% more damage, wouldn't the higher your base DPS, the bigger the gain off the added int?
Simplified example (ignoring crit, etc.):
Spoilered for vertical length:
Scenario 1:
w/o Soul Harvest:
100 DPS weapon
100 Int from gear
DPS: 200
w/ Soul Harvest:
100 DPS weapon
300 Int from Gear and Soul Harvest
DPS: 400 (Soul Harvest effectively doubled your damage)
Scenario 2:
w/o Soul Harvest:
100 DPS weapon
300 Int from gear
DPS: 400
w/ Soul Harvest:
100 DPS weapon
500 Int from Gear and Soul Harvest
DPS: 600 (Soul Harvest effectively increased your damage by 50%)
Soul Harvest is increasing your DPS by the same amount (200) in both scenarios, but as a % damage increase, it becomes less powerful the more Int you have.
So it's like a diminishing return?
Could be in place to keep it from getting out of control I guess.
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it's not really a feature that's in place, it's basic division
*before you even start.
Maths, you say?
Fake but real edit: Serafinowicz!
Interesting. 12.01am PDT on May 15 is actually 7.01pm on May 15 in NZ. That will fit quite well for me picking up the game during the day and then finishing work (provided the servers don't collapse).
Lose: The opposite of win
Loose: Your mum
Those goats can haul ass.
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Loose: Your mum
I have always been a sorc guy myself, but there is a real good chance day 1 is a barb. I loved not only wrecking bitches frenzy style, but having my friends on mumble like "DEAR GOD YOU'RE LEAPING INTO MASSIVE GROUPS OF ENEMIES ARE YOU INSANE" only to laugh hysterically that they go flying across the screen.